Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks for the heads-up. I don't eat much in the way of fat beyond occasional avocados & nuts. Ahh, except once-in-a-blue-moon bacon on a salad bar. : " > I'm not sure the day will ever come that I no longer want a small taste of that from time to time. :~P Sounds the book may well be too fat laden for my tastes. But may be worth seeking out in a book store to take a look-see. Thanks. :~) Thia On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Sparrow R <sparrowrose@...>wrote: > > > The big drawback to the book (for me, anyway) is that nearly all the > recipes are *very* high in fat. ... ... like extra > virgin olive oil, often in massive quantities. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Why not cook with Cold Pressed Extra Virgin Olive Oil? It is much healthier for you. It actually was discussed on Biggest Looser last night. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote: > > > Oh, and coconut oil. Gee, been not really using that as much lately, as I > haven't cooked much lately. Almost forgot about it. lol. It's the only oil > I cook with. > > :~) > Thia > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...<bipolyf%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > Thanks for the heads-up. I don't eat much in the way of fat beyond > > occasional avocados & nuts. Ahh, except once-in-a-blue-moon bacon on a > > salad bar. : " > I'm not sure the day will ever come that I no longer want > a > > small taste of that from time to time. :~P > > > > Sounds the book may well be too fat laden for my tastes. But may be worth > > seeking out in a book store to take a look-see. Thanks. > > > > :~) > > Thia > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Sparrow R <sparrowrose@...<sparrowrose%40gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> The big drawback to the book (for me, anyway) is that nearly all the > >> recipes are *very* high in fat. ... ... like extravirgin olive oil, > >> often in massive quantities. > >> > > > > > > -- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 " Why not " ? Because olive oil breaks down in to less than healthy when put to heat. I will use olive oil on my bf salads (he likes oil on salad, I do not) and occasional dish for a potluck (like the cauliflower couscous I think I mentioned here some time back). It is a good choice as far as oils go, if *not* put to heat. I would never cook with it. From what I have read, and personal experience, I believe that virgin coconut oil is a way healthier choice, especially when put to heat. Yes, I have seen may folks recommend cooking with olive oil. I, and many others, disagree with that practice. Once you get away from frequent oil use, your palate becomes much more in-tune, but you may even be able to notice if you do use oils frequently: do a test, try cooking with different oils, and see if you notice that stickiness the oil gives. Not heated, it's slippery. Heated, most (including olive oil) thickens, gets sticky, and clogs up the system. Take a look at your pans, too. :~) Thia Rushing <lindarsgarden@...> wrote: > > Why not cook with Cold Pressed Extra Virgin Olive Oil? It is much healthier > for you. It actually was discussed on Biggest Looser last night. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...> wrote: > > > This whole coconut oil thing confuses the heck out of me. > It confuses a lot of people. the problem was, when folks did clinical tests, they used *hydrogenated* coconut oil, which is awful to use, horrible stuff! but VIRGIN coconut oil is HEALTHY. another perk: I lost weight using the stuff...dropped off like melting away when I started using it. Lots of folks use it for loosing weight. Many use it for moisturizer like you do, too. As long as it is VIRGIN coconut oil, it is very good to cook with, use as a butter substitute, use as a moisterizer, etc. And it can even be used as a deodorant. it is antiseptic, and antibacterial. Keep reading online, doing a search for VIRGIN coconut oil, and you will find all the good info. :~) Thia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...> wrote: > > I have, sitting on my counter, 2 containers of Organic coconut Oil. ... > > So what exactly happens if I put a tablespoon of the coconut oil in my > frying pan and do some sliced zucchinis??? > Melody~ I would highly recommend it, if it is VIRGIN coconut oil. You mentioned " organic coconut oil " . Make sure it says VIRGIN on the jar before cooking with it. Personally, I wouldn't use it as a moisturizer either if it's not virgin. I am wondering, is it (the jars you have) Spectrum brand? If so, I think it really tastes pretty bad. My personal opinion. I'm only guessing it might be, as that is the brand most often readily available in stores. I highly recommend you try Nutiva, or Tropical Traditions. http://nutiva.com/ http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/ Thia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have on occasion baked or slow simmered chicken or Salmon in a half coconut oil and half organic butter very smail amounts justs enogh to keep from sticking and to flavor the meat. It is delicious. I do use olive oil to make my homade dressing for my salads. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...<eliz7212%40verizon.net>> > wrote: > > > > > I have, sitting on my counter, 2 containers of Organic coconut Oil. ... > > > > So what exactly happens if I put a tablespoon of the coconut oil in my > > frying pan and do some sliced zucchinis??? > Recent Activity > > - 5 > New Photos</spnew;_ylc=X3oDMTJmM3BrYThyBF9\ TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI0OTM2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwOTUwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZwaG9\ 0BHN0aW1lAzEyNDA0MzI1MTI-> > > Visit Your Group > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaGFxb3EyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE\ 0BGdycElkAzI0OTM2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwOTUwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTI\ 0MDQzMjUxMg--> > Sell Online > > Start selling with<http://us.ard./SIG=14k9dq5b1/M=493064.12016255.12445662.8674578/D=\ grphealth/S=1705060950:NC/Y=/EXP=1240439712/L=/B=EIaLC0PDhEY-/J=12404325125\ 92895/K=KR4wyfPS.KkYWl8U19oOPg/A=4025291/R=0/SIG=12bsapn24/*http://us.rd..c\ om/evt=44092/*http://smallbusiness./merchant> > > our award-winning > > e-commerce tools. > Y! Groups blog > > the best source<http://us.ard./SIG=14kd4mji0/M=493064.12016258.12582637.8674578/\ D=grphealth/S=1705060950:NC/Y=/EXP=1240439712/L=/B=EYaLC0PDhEY-/J=124043251\ 2592895/K=KR4wyfPS.KkYWl8U19oOPg/A=5191955/R=0/SIG=112mhte3e/*http://www.ygroups\ blog.com/blog/> > > for the latest > > scoop on Groups. > > > Weight Management Challenge<http://us.ard./SIG=14l5sj1up/M=493064.12016300.12445692.11323\ 196/D=grphealth/S=1705060950:NC/Y=/EXP=1240439712/L=/B=EoaLC0PDhEY-/J=12404\ 32512592895/K=KR4wyfPS.KkYWl8U19oOPg/A=5170418/R=0/SIG=11b5gu1oe/*http://new.gro\ ups./specialKgroup> > Join others who > > are losing pounds. > . > > > -- Smyrna, TN Zone 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I always cook with coconut oil.. virgin coco oil that is... please don't believe the lie that saturated fat is bad for you.. it is all the other oils that are bad... For me and Sparrow, the rule is real food... Sparrow says Whole foods, I think extracts of whole food, ie, coconut oit is fine..and it is a great moisturizer. I cook, eat, and wear the stuff.. And I like the way food tastes that has been cooked in coconut oil. ________________________________ From: melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:57:07 PM Subject: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) I also have a question about EVOO!! I have been using it for years. And last night I watched The Biggest Loser and Bob was explaining the benefits of cooking with EVOO. My question is about using Coconut Oil. I know we've discussed this before but it was a long long time ago. Right now, I have, sitting on my counter, 2 containers of Organic coconut Oil. One is in a tub and one is in still sealed bottle. I have used the one that is in the tub. But NOT FOR COOKING. And my hands have never touched the oil. I just pour out a bit in the evening and put it on my face (as a moisturizer) . I was going to cook with it, but I went on line and read about how UNHEALTHY it is to use. But then I come here and some of you use it now and then. So what exactly happens if I put a tablespoon of the coconut oil in my frying pan and do some sliced zucchinis??? Or does the fact that I would usually use EVOO and then once in a while use the coconut oil, well, would that be a bad thing to do. This whole coconut oil thing confuses the heck out of me. Melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Cody wrote: For me and Sparrow, the rule is real food... > Me too!!! :~) Thia -- º¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤º Quick & Easy Vegan Recipes http://easyraw.blogspot.com/ º¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤º Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 melodylubart1 wrote: The brand is EMERALD LABORATORIES. and it says: " Extra > Virgin, Certified Organic. 16 oz PURE OIL. > I've never head of that one. I will have to do a search and check it out! I like to try different ones. Thanks for the name. :~) > melodylubart1 wrote: the other container is a jar and it's 14 oz and it's > Spectrum Naturals. It is still sealed. It says Expeller Pressed Organic > Coconut Oil. It does not say virgin. Haven't opened this one up yet. > Yep, that's the one I think tastes nasty! I unfortunately bought two jars of it. I have one still sealed. the other I used up while boiling pasta, rather than using corn or soy, like I used to do. That was some time ago. I haven't had pasta in a while...not sure what to do with this last jar of Spectrum. :~( > melodylubart1 wrote: So I did use the coconut oil, and I will continue to > use it (sparingly) because I do watch my calorie count. > At this point, I need the calories. I've lost a lot of weight, and am where I think I should be right now. Don't want to loose more! But, I am really not using the coconut oil, like I was while loosing. I ate the stuff like it was going to be taken away from me!!! LOL. :~) Thia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 On 4/22/09, bhans2 <bhans2@...> wrote: > > Anyone ever try " frying " food in water rather than oil? Stuff > doesn't stick and it works well, but most likely doesn't have > as good of a flavor. At least you're not getting a processed > food with water. Yeah, I used to do 'healthy sauté' back when I was still cooking my food. You have to be careful not to use too much water or you end up steaming instead of frying, which is okay for some foods but others, onions for example, don't benefit. Onions are especially good candidates for healthy sauté, by the way, because they release natural oils when you start heating them and those oils mix with the little bit of water and make a very nice frying medium. You can even get the nice carmelization going. As for lack of flavor, it may take some getting used to for some people but there is plenty of flavor there! In fact, I found that after doing healthy sauté for a while and seriously cutting down or out the oils and hidden fats in my diet that getting a hold of some food that had been cooked in oil was a most unpleasant experience. When you cut fats down to 10% of your calories you begin to lose the taste for them and foods with higher fat content -- especially when the fat is an oil -- taste greasy, heavy and gross. The World's Healthiest Food site has a short video about why it's not recommended to cook with olive oil: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=movie & dbid=6 Here is his description of healthy sauté: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=8#preptipdescr healthy steaming: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=117#preptipdescr and healthy stir-fry: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=156#preptipdescr None of which use oil. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 He had too much oil in the pan and the fire too high. That does not prove to me that cooking with olive oil is bad. ew Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:09:27 -0600 On 4/22/09, bhans2 <bhans2@...> wrote: > > Anyone ever try " frying " food in water rather than oil? Stuff > doesn't stick and it works well, but most likely doesn't have > as good of a flavor. At least you're not getting a processed > food with water. Yeah, I used to do 'healthy sauté' back when I was still cooking my food. You have to be careful not to use too much water or you end up steaming instead of frying, which is okay for some foods but others, onions for example, don't benefit. Onions are especially good candidates for healthy sauté, by the way, because they release natural oils when you start heating them and those oils mix with the little bit of water and make a very nice frying medium. You can even get the nice carmelization going. As for lack of flavor, it may take some getting used to for some people but there is plenty of flavor there! In fact, I found that after doing healthy sauté for a while and seriously cutting down or out the oils and hidden fats in my diet that getting a hold of some food that had been cooked in oil was a most unpleasant experience. When you cut fats down to 10% of your calories you begin to lose the taste for them and foods with higher fat content -- especially when the fat is an oil -- taste greasy, heavy and gross. The World's Healthiest Food site has a short video about why it's not recommended to cook with olive oil: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=movie & dbid=6 Here is his description of healthy sauté: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=8#preptipdescr healthy steaming: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=117#preptipdescr and healthy stir-fry: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=156#preptipdescr None of which use oil. Sparrow -- It's News. It's Reviews. It's Interviews. It's Free. What Are You Waiting For? www.movieline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have a pump spraying device. I fill it with olive oil - EVOO - pump it and spray just like pam. ew Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:09:27 -0600 On 4/22/09, bhans2 <bhans2@...> wrote: > > Anyone ever try " frying " food in water rather than oil? Stuff > doesn't stick and it works well, but most likely doesn't have > as good of a flavor. At least you're not getting a processed > food with water. Yeah, I used to do 'healthy sauté' back when I was still cooking my food. You have to be careful not to use too much water or you end up steaming instead of frying, which is okay for some foods but others, onions for example, don't benefit. Onions are especially good candidates for healthy sauté, by the way, because they release natural oils when you start heating them and those oils mix with the little bit of water and make a very nice frying medium. You can even get the nice carmelization going. As for lack of flavor, it may take some getting used to for some people but there is plenty of flavor there! In fact, I found that after doing healthy sauté for a while and seriously cutting down or out the oils and hidden fats in my diet that getting a hold of some food that had been cooked in oil was a most unpleasant experience. When you cut fats down to 10% of your calories you begin to lose the taste for them and foods with higher fat content -- especially when the fat is an oil -- taste greasy, heavy and gross. The World's Healthiest Food site has a short video about why it's not recommended to cook with olive oil: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=movie & dbid=6 Here is his description of healthy sauté: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=8#preptipdescr healthy steaming: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=117#preptipdescr and healthy stir-fry: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=preptip & dbid=156#preptipdescr None of which use oil. Sparrow -- It's News. It's Reviews. It's Interviews. It's Free. What Are You Waiting For? www.movieline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 On 4/22/09, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote: > > He had too much oil in the pan and the fire too high. That does not > prove to me that cooking with olive oil is bad. A normal-sized cooking amount of oil would not show up on the camera. As for " bad " food and " good " food, I fall back on my earlier statement that it's all a spectrum. I hesitate in using moral value judgement words for food like " guilty " or " shouldn't " or " bad " because I think that does as much overall, long-term harm as any box of twinkies. Olive oil is healthier than some stuff and less healthy than other stuff. It's all a personal choice about where one feels best physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually with one's diet. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 On 4/22/09, Ernest Willingham <99tomatoes@...> wrote: > > I have a pump spraying device. I fill it with olive oil - EVOO - pump it > and spray just like pam. I thought about getting one of those and then I quit cooking my food so it was moot. One thing I like about my food now is how easy it is to clean up after. I tend to have a sort of instinctual gut feeling similar to what was trying to point out in the video that if my food has gummy, sticky properties that make me have to expend effort to clean the cookware and dishes I feel funny about putting it inside my body. But then I'm kind of finicky that way. The same " instinct " makes me feel uncomfortable about oatmeal even though it's supposed to be one of the healthiest foods. If I drop some oatmeal on the counter and forget to wipe it up all day, I have to chisel it. I know my stomach acids keep it from turning to glue inside me, but . . . well, I'm just kind of finicky that way. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You do need fat in your diet.. just use real fat.. like lard and coconut oil... ________________________________ From: bhans2 <bhans2@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:28:14 PM Subject: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) Anyone ever try " frying " food in water rather than oil? Stuff doesn't stick and it works well, but most likely doesn't have as good of a flavor. At least you're not getting a processed food with water. Barb So I did use the coconut oil, and I will continue to > > use it (sparingly) because I do watch my calorie count. > > > > > > > At this point, I need the calories. I've lost a lot of weight, and am where > I think I should be right now. Don't want to loose more! But, I am really > not using the coconut oil, like I was while loosing. I ate the stuff like it > was going to be taken away from me!!! LOL. > > :~) > Thia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I have done some stir fry with just water, when I use oil it is not frying as I used to do it is more like a slow simmer. Oh and I think I have simmered Chicken and fish in water and lemon juice and a little butter. We have I guess gotten rather used to not frying in the traditional sense. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, bhans2 <bhans2@...> wrote: > > > Anyone ever try " frying " food in water rather than oil? Stuff doesn't stick > and it works well, but most likely doesn't have as good of a flavor. At > least you're not getting a processed food with water. > > Barb > > > Recent Activity > > - 5 > New Photos</spnew;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMzdlamRzBF9\ TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI0OTM2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwOTUwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZwaG9\ 0BHN0aW1lAzEyNDA0NTM3NDM-> > > Visit Your Group > <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNHBnajloBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE\ 0BGdycElkAzI0OTM2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYwOTUwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTI\ 0MDQ1Mzc0Mw--> > Give Back > > for Good<http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJtajE0ZWFzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEEZ3JwSW\ QDMjQ5MzYwMARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjA5NTAEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNicmFuZARzdGltZQMxMjQwND\ UzNzQz;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A//brand./forgood> > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free!<http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJvajZnNnNkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIEZ3JwS\ WQDMjQ5MzYwMARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjA5NTAEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawN0b29sYmFyBHN0aW1lAzEyN\ DA0NTM3NDM-;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A//toolbar./%3F.cpdl=ygrps> > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > Start a group<start;_ylc=X3oDMTJvM29nbHRxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzM\ EZ3JwSWQDMjQ5MzYwMARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjA5NTAEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNncm91cHMyBHN0aW1\ lAzEyNDA0NTM3NDM-> > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > . > > > -- Smyrna, TN Zone 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I'm with ya on the nuts, seeds, and avocados! :~) Thia On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:56 PM, bhans2 <bhans2@...> wrote: > > Lard?? Beef, ok. Although I do eat some olive oil and a little cod liver > oil, I prefer to get my oils from the whole foods. Olives and fish anyone? > Nuts and seeds? Avocados? Yum. You are right that we do need fat in our > diets. I can be a bit more fussy than most. > > Barb > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 It is an animal derived saturated fat. So, I suppose it depends on your perspective, and goals. Pig fat (lard) might be considered more natural, *perhaps* less processed than other oils(?). I really don't know, just guessing here. I do know that lots of folks cook veggies in bacon fat. Thia On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:49 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...>wrote: > > LARD??? LARD??? > > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard. > That's a new one for me. > > Melody > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 PS - Melody, from my understanding it is rather artery clogging, so, no not " healthy " . On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote: > It is an animal derived saturated fat. So, I suppose it depends on your > perspective, and goals. Pig fat (lard) might be considered more natural, > *perhaps* less processed than other oils(?). I really don't know, just > guessing here. I do know that lots of folks cook veggies in bacon fat. > > > > Thia > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:49 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...>wrote: > >> >> LARD??? LARD??? >> >> This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard. >> That's a new one for me. >> >> Melody >> >> >> > -- º¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤º Quick & Easy Vegan Recipes http://easyraw.blogspot.com/ º¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤ºº¤ø,¸,ø¤º Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 On 4/23/09, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...> wrote: > > LARD??? LARD??? > > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to > use lard. That's a new one for me. I wouldn't be surprised if the Weston Price folks favor lard. A glance at Wikipedia tells me that lard from most supermarkets is not the healthiest choice, however: " Industrially-produced lard, including much of the lard sold in supermarkets, is rendered from a mixture of high and low quality fat sources from throughout the pig.[8] It is typically hydrogenated (which produces trans fats as a by-product), and often treated with bleaching and deodorizing agents, emulsifiers, and antioxidants, such as BHT.[4][9] Such treatment makes lard shelf stable. (Untreated lard must be refrigerated or frozen to prevent rancidity.)[10][11] " Consumers seeking a higher-quality source of lard typically seek out artisanal producers of rendered lard, or render it themselves from leaf lard or fatback.[8][11][12][13][14] " So, leaving aside the question of whether lard is good or bad (I would assume high quality lard ranks alongside high quality butter as far as health issues go) I don't think I'd want to eat something that's been hydrogenated, bleached, deodorized and BHT-ed. p.s. http://pics.gormagon.org/2008/10/30/eat-more-lard/ http://flickr.com/photos/67446522@N00/211042337 Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Yes Thia, once upon a time when we were still relatively healthy, that is what people cooked with, then came hydrogentated oils and high fructose corn syrup and today, people on that diet are ill.. Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has to be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten, including potatoes and peas. Lauara ________________________________ From: Thia .... <bipolyf@...> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:29:10 AM Subject: Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) It is an animal derived saturated fat. So, I suppose it depends on your perspective, and goals. Pig fat (lard) might be considered more natural, *perhaps* less processed than other oils(?). I really don't know, just guessing here. I do know that lots of folks cook veggies in bacon fat. Thia On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:49 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212verizon (DOT) net>wrote: > > LARD??? LARD??? > > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard. > That's a new one for me. > > Melody > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 That last para made little since... no potatoes, you can not eat them raw.. same with peas and grains.. the foods you can eat raw you can cook... ________________________________ From: Cody <lecody2001@...> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 6:28:00 AM Subject: Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) Yes Thia, once upon a time when we were still relatively healthy, that is what people cooked with, then came hydrogentated oils and high fructose corn syrup and today, people on that diet are ill.. Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has to be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten, including potatoes and peas. Lauara ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Thia .... <bipolyfgmail (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:29:10 AM Subject: Re: lemon pudding/ (was Re: Dehydrating sprouts/Sparrow) It is an animal derived saturated fat. So, I suppose it depends on your perspective, and goals. Pig fat (lard) might be considered more natural, *perhaps* less processed than other oils(?). I really don't know, just guessing here. I do know that lots of folks cook veggies in bacon fat. Thia On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:49 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212verizon (DOT) net>wrote: > > LARD??? LARD??? > > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard. > That's a new one for me. > > Melody > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Lard makes me sick! Much to heavy. We use Olive Oil, Organic Butter, and occasionally Coconut Oil. By the way when I purchased Spectrum it tasted nothing like coconuts. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:49 PM, melodylubart1 <eliz7212@...> wrote: > > > > > LARD??? LARD??? > > This is healthy??? I have never ever heard that it's good to use lard. > That's a new one for me. > > Melody > > > So I did use the coconut oil, and I will > continue to > > > > > use it (sparingly) because I do watch my calorie count. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, I need the calories. I've lost a lot of weight, and am > where > > > > I think I should be right now. Don't want to loose more! But, I am > really > > > > not using the coconut oil, like I was while loosing. I ate the stuff > like it > > > > was going to be taken away from me!!! LOL. > > > > > > > > :~) > > > > Thia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Those pics are priceless! Thanks for sharing. :~) Thia On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Sparrow R <sparrowrose@...>wrote: > > > So, leaving aside the question of whether lard is good or bad (I would > assume high quality lard ranks alongside high quality butter as far as > health issues go) I don't think I'd want to eat something that's been > hydrogenated, bleached, deodorized and BHT-ed. > > p.s. http://pics.gormagon.org/2008/10/30/eat-more-lard/ > http://flickr.com/photos/67446522@N00/211042337 > > Sparrow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Ok, I am compleately with ya on the first paragraph. But you lost me at the end of the second. Are you saying that potatoes and peas have to be somehow processed before eating? I've eaten peas raw fresh out of a garden. What needs to be done with them? I've heard potatoes should be cooked, although I don't know why. (I know about them containing arsinic, but cooking doesn't get rid of that). But you are ok with cooking, so what needs to by done to potatoes and peas by your lights? Thia On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > > > Yes Thia, once upon a time when we were still relatively healthy, that is > what people cooked with, then came hydrogentated oils and high fructose corn > syrup and today, people on that diet are ill.. > > Real food, just remember, no matter what your diet preference, eat real > food. I do paleo, so that cuts out grains, and any other food that has to > be processed [not cooked, cooking is ok] before it can be eaten, including > potatoes and peas. > > Lauara > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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