Re: too much Alpha?

[Guest guest]

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The big question about Alpha, especially in this kind of client, would be what

happens when he OPENS his eyes. Should drop below 1 in the back and stay down

at task. If that doesn't happen, training it down with eyes open can be

helpful. The A/T ratios don't look all that high for EC in the back of the

head.

Pete

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> From: " St. Clair, MSW " <mastclair@...>

> Date: 2004/11/08 Mon PM 05:02:10 EST

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> Subject: too much Alpha?

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> I'm training a 13yo boy, dxed by others with Aspergers and ADHD.

> His alpha is very high EC at Oz and P4, but not at P3. I'm wondering if I

reward it at P3 or inhibit at P4?

> Here's the TLC numbers:

> P3 Alpha: 28 microvolts / 30% A/T: 1.3 EC

> P4 Alpha: 43 microvolts/ 39% A/T: 2.1

> Oz Alpha: 41 microvolts/ 38% A/t: 2.2

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> We are in the trial phase, and have had success so far with C4/ SMR; Frontal

Sqsh 2-28hz; T3/A1 inhibit 15-38hz.

> I often look at where the alpha is in terms of amplitude and percent, and

often train Alpha in the early days. I'm just not sure what to train with this.

> I know you'll ask for symptoms: anxiety, impulsive, loses focus, rigid

thought, argues frequently, etc.

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> Thanks for your help.

>

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[Guest guest]

My guess would be to train around 8-11 up (EC) in the back, probably at

P4 to start.

You also may wish to inhibit beta (15+ or 18+) at back, if elevated.

If alpha frequency is high, training a higher range of alpha may

heighten anxiety. If not, then training it up may help with

flexibility (google " cognitive preparedness " and PAF) and you might try

higher (8-13?). At 13 years old, he may still have somewhat slowed

frequencies, so careful with training up too high.

I don't know about others, but I am beginning to see an

anxiety-with-adhd pattern with the TLC that looks like excesses of slow

in front and fast in back, presenting with high-strung, sharp and

distracted individuals.

Are people seeing this, and what is working to train it?

Best,

Hill

The NeuroDevelopment Center

www.neurodevelopmentcenter.com

On Nov 8, 2004, at 5:02 PM, St. Clair, MSW wrote:

> I'm training a 13yo boy, dxed by others with Aspergers and ADHD.

> His alpha is very high EC at Oz and P4, but not at P3.  I'm wondering

> if I reward it at P3 or inhibit at P4?

> Here's the TLC numbers:

> P3 Alpha: 28 microvolts / 30%    A/T: 1.3 EC

> P4 Alpha: 43 microvolts/ 39%     A/T: 2.1

> Oz Alpha: 41 microvolts/ 38%     A/t: 2.2

>  

> We are in the trial phase, and have had success so far with C4/ SMR;

> Frontal Sqsh 2-28hz; T3/A1 inhibit 15-38hz.

> I often look at where the alpha is in terms of amplitude and percent,

> and often train Alpha in the early days.  I'm just not sure what to

> train with this.

> I know you'll ask for symptoms:  anxiety, impulsive, loses focus,

> rigid thought, argues frequently, etc.

>  

> Thanks for your help.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Pete!! The alpha goes down, way down with EO and stays down.

too much Alpha?

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> > I'm training a 13yo boy, dxed by others with Aspergers and ADHD.

> > His alpha is very high EC at Oz and P4, but not at P3. I'm wondering if

I reward it at P3 or inhibit at P4?

> > Here's the TLC numbers:

> > P3 Alpha: 28 microvolts / 30% A/T: 1.3 EC

> > P4 Alpha: 43 microvolts/ 39% A/T: 2.1

> > Oz Alpha: 41 microvolts/ 38% A/t: 2.2

> >

> > We are in the trial phase, and have had success so far with C4/ SMR;

Frontal Sqsh 2-28hz; T3/A1 inhibit 15-38hz.

> > I often look at where the alpha is in terms of amplitude and percent,

and often train Alpha in the early days. I'm just not sure what to train

with this.

> > I know you'll ask for symptoms: anxiety, impulsive, loses focus, rigid

thought, argues frequently, etc.

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> > Thanks for your help.

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