Shea Butter

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Hi Kim,

You are very welcome

mary

Well, Naturally

At 11:49 AM 9/19/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>

>Thank you very much for your insight. Being a " newbie " there are so many

>sight out there each having there own technique and it is hard to know

>what is best sometimes. Glad I posted a note. Thanks again.

>Kim

>

> <maryr@...> wrote:

>Hi Kim,

>

>Your mixture is too hot when you are adding the shea butter - it needs to

>be added when its barely melted - maybe try to melt and add it separately

>when the rest of the ingredients are cooler.

>

>I would not cool it in the fridge - shea butter can be touchy when its

>subjected to temperature fluctuations.

>

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>At 12:55 PM 9/19/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >Hi all! I am sure this question has come up before, but I am new to

> >making bath products, so please forgive me. I had been told by my

> >supplier of shea to melt all my ingredients then add the shea at the

> >end; pour into containers and cool quickly (like the fridge). I have

> >done this, but everytime I make a product with shea, it turns out

> >slightly grainy. I was hoping to avoid this. Any suggestions on how

> >I can avoid this problem? Thanks in advance for all of your help!

> >

> >Kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I must disagree with this method...we never ever heat shea and hold a high temp

for an extended period of time. Whe we must melt it we do it slowly on low and

turn off the heat when it's half way there, let the residual heat finish the

melting. The we pour and put it in the freezer or refrig immediately so it

cools quickly and is smooth, no grains at all. We also do this will all

product we put shea in with the exception of soap of course.

Grainy product could be caused by a fragrance oil or flavoring with synthetics

but I know that in 10 years using this method and essential oils, I have never

had a grainy product. We use only unrefined shea butter.

I had been told by my

>supplier of shea to melt all my ingredients then add the shea at the

>end; pour into containers and cool quickly (like the fridge). I have

>done this, but everytime I make a product with shea, it turns out

>slightly grainy. I was hoping to avoid this. Any suggestions on how

>I can avoid this problem? Thanks in advance for all of your help!

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In a message dated 9/20/2003 4:02:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

emporiumnaturals@... writes:

> Grainy product could be caused by a fragrance oil or flavoring with

> synthetics but I know that in 10 years using this method and essential oils, I

have

> never had a grainy product. We use only unrefined shea butter.

>

>

It can also just be grainy when you recieve it or with no fragrance or

EO..I'm talking about refined shea. I've had refined shea from several suppliers

that got grainy with no FO or EO after heating and also have it had it that came

this way. Do a search on heating shea properly and you should come up with

several results. Heating it and holding it for a bit works quite well for me

with

the refined..but quick cooling may also work well

Shana

[Guest guest]

Shea Butter also can become grainy at higher temperatures. I had lotions in the

past become grainy with Shea Butter in them. Now I always add Shea last and keep

the temp. at 160 or less and it solved the problem.

Re: shea butter

In a message dated 9/20/2003 4:02:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

emporiumnaturals@... writes:

> Grainy product could be caused by a fragrance oil or flavoring with

> synthetics but I know that in 10 years using this method and essential oils,

I have

> never had a grainy product. We use only unrefined shea butter.

>

>

It can also just be grainy when you recieve it or with no fragrance or

EO..I'm talking about refined shea. I've had refined shea from several

suppliers

that got grainy with no FO or EO after heating and also have it had it that

came

this way. Do a search on heating shea properly and you should come up with

several results. Heating it and holding it for a bit works quite well for me

with

the refined..but quick cooling may also work well

Shana

[Guest guest]

I know of a great sale currently running on shea butter. Please contact me

directly (pamela@...) if you'd like more info. Thanks!

pamela

[Guest guest]

> Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has used shea butter as a skin

> lotion. It 's described as an oil derived from crushing a particular

> nut which grows in Africa. It's available raw, unrefined. It seems

> very rich and soothing to the skin when I tried some on my

> hands. Just want to check if anyone has any suggestions or

> experiences with shea butter before I purchase some.

JoAnne,

I use it on my hands. It has the texture of petroleum jelly,very

sticky, so I don't use it as a lotion, just to protect the hands from

chapping, or to soften overnight type stuff.

B.

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JoAnne & ,

If you melt the Shea Butter then add some corn starch, & allow it to

solidify, you have what is called a lotion bar & many who make homemade soap

make these lotion bars. If you want it softer or thinned out so it's not

sticky, try adding a little olive oil.

> JoAnne,

> I use it on my hands. It has the texture of petroleum jelly,very

> sticky, so I don't use it as a lotion, just to protect the hands from

> chapping, or to soften overnight type stuff.

> B.

>

[Guest guest]

I only use 1-2 oz per lb MAX, anymore and you will lose all lather, and the

oils will separate from soap.

[Guest guest]

yeah don't use alot of it at all. I add it to my MP and i see a decrease in

lather, even if i add a little, don't know if its better than buying MP with

it all ready in. I've never tried it, figured why buy that base when i can

just add a pinch.

I've tried candles and supplies mango butter base and I LOVE IT!! so maybe

shea base is good too.....

As for pricing....well, you gotta figure all cost for all supplies used --

and here is something i never took into consideration (but dear BF brings it

up all the time) the price of the electric used. then you need to figure

your labor. here let me give you an example-

Cost of supplies- 10.00

Labor- (lets say 6.00 an hr)- 6 x 2 hrs= 12.00

electric- lets figure 2.00

cost is- 24.00

ok, so say you get 20 bars of soap- 24.00 divided by 20 = 1.20 = cost per

bar

take your 1.20 x 3 = 3.60

1.20 x 4 = 4.80

and so on. you can take those two prices and charge 4.00 a bar. (usually

it averages to 1.00 per ounce) its entirely up to you.

I can get 4.50 for a bar of peppermint herbal soap. (which is fine with me,

since i am using less than 4 oz of soap base, and i can get base for 2 lbs

for 4.50 or less) Trust me, when the craft stores have the 50 % off

coupons- I hit each store as many times as possible per week, I love the

suspending base i can get for half price!! (9.00 regular, but with a 40 %

off, its 4.50 each.) today, i got 8 lbs of suspending soap base (2 olive

oil, 1 palm oil, 1 goats milk) for less than 20.00!! thats not a bad deal.

keep your eye out for sales, if your gonna do MP, sign up to

www.acmoore.com(if there is one locally) they send you a coupon you

can print and they say

use 1 per day, but if you hit the store in the am, then later in the

afternoon, or have someone else who will stand in line also, you got it

made!!) you can print their coupons as many times as you want. same with

joanns (i think its www.joanns.com but google that first!!) also, candles

and supplies has some good bases at a reasonable price, but you may have to

pay shipping, i can't tell you what their shipping is like, i live 20 mins

away from them!!

good luck and keep us posted as to how it goes!!

Annette

On 9/17/06, too2bizymom@... <too2bizymom@...> wrote:

>

> I only use 1-2 oz per lb MAX, anymore and you will lose all lather, and

> the

> oils will separate from soap.

>

>

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Anansa,

If you have Shea Oil, Calendula Oil, and Aloe Butter. I love the Aloe Butter

it is soft and creamy.

HTH

Theresa

>From: " Anansa " <anansa_lyken@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Shea butter

>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:48:54 -0000

>

>I have two pregnant friends and they are requesting shea butter from

>me. Do you think I can melt the shea butter and during the cooling

>process whip it by itself. They prefer unrefined shea butter but they

>want it softer. Also what are some other oils I could mix it with? I

>was thinking jojoba and lavender. I am going to melt 2 oz and see

>what happens!

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Anansa:

Don't forget pregnant women are not suppossed to use EO's, only 1 drop for 1

fluid oz of cream if any...Ruth

Anansa <anansa_lyken@...> escribió:

I have two pregnant friends and they are requesting shea butter from

me. Do you think I can melt the shea butter and during the cooling

process whip it by itself. They prefer unrefined shea butter but they

want it softer. Also what are some other oils I could mix it with? I

was thinking jojoba and lavender. I am going to melt 2 oz and see

what happens!

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Okay, I am just getting into the Bath and Body biz. I am 4 months preg. is it

unsafe for me to handle EO's during my preganancy and why?

ruth ulloa <honeyvarita@...> wrote: Anansa:

Don't forget pregnant women are not suppossed to use EO's, only 1 drop for 1

fluid oz of cream if any...Ruth

Anansa <anansa_lyken@...> escribió:

I have two pregnant friends and they are requesting shea butter from

me. Do you think I can melt the shea butter and during the cooling

process whip it by itself. They prefer unrefined shea butter but they

want it softer. Also what are some other oils I could mix it with? I

was thinking jojoba and lavender. I am going to melt 2 oz and see

what happens!

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Sorry I am responding so late but I use Aloe Butter just by itself

because it is so good.

>

> Anansa,

>

> If you have Shea Oil, Calendula Oil, and Aloe Butter. I love the

Aloe Butter

> it is soft and creamy.

>

> HTH

> Theresa

>

>

> >From: " Anansa " <anansa_lyken@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Shea butter

> >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 01:48:54 -0000

> >

> >I have two pregnant friends and they are requesting shea butter from

> >me. Do you think I can melt the shea butter and during the cooling

> >process whip it by itself. They prefer unrefined shea butter but they

> >want it softer. Also what are some other oils I could mix it with? I

> >was thinking jojoba and lavender. I am going to melt 2 oz and see

> >what happens!

>

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I know my response is so late..I am sorry about this. I already added

a little Lavender I thought you could not uses certain EO if you were

pregnant like rosemary and such :-( It smells great though :-)

I used

Shea butter

Cocoa Butter

Safflower

Coconut oil

Aloe vera

Vit. E

Lavender

Baby powder scent for more fragrance

>

> Anansa:

> Don't forget pregnant women are not suppossed to use EO's, only 1

drop for 1 fluid oz of cream if any...Ruth

>

> Anansa <anansa_lyken@...> escribió:

> I have two pregnant friends and they are requesting shea

butter from

> me. Do you think I can melt the shea butter and during the cooling

> process whip it by itself. They prefer unrefined shea butter but they

> want it softer. Also what are some other oils I could mix it with? I

> was thinking jojoba and lavender. I am going to melt 2 oz and see

> what happens!

>

>

>

>

>

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I only like pure shea or whipped shea for extremely dry patches.. intensive

treatment. It is oily..and there isnt much you can do about it. Most either

love or hate it, in this form.

I prefer shea based lotions and creams for daily use.

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The honey will separate out of any oils and butters. I use honey a lot

in a lot of my products and have tested it in all sorts of different

things including lip balms and over time it will separate out of the

butters. You can try honey powder but that may end up feeling gritty.

son

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Hi Ruth,

Add the honey, its great stuff and and we find does not attibute to

any spoilage. We use it in a lip balm for sweet lips (which by the

way honey is great for canker sores & fever blisters) then we have it

featured in a wild honey day barrier cream which like glycerin, helps

retain and attract moisture to the skin. Here is a little blurb on

our site:

" ...Honey contains about 10 enzymes, 1 hormone, an inhibin (similar

to antibiotics) phosphate, calcium, magnesium, copper, manganese,

potassium, iron, vitamins B2,B6 & C... "

All of that and its a great marketing angle. Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Have a great day,

R. Lorenti Jr.

mlorenti@...

www.sensatia.com

On Feb 22, 2007, at 3:46 AM, Ruth A. Kohl wrote:

> I was asked if I could put some honey in the next Shea butter I made.

> As a rule I just use Shea butter, Sweet Almond oil and Lavender. Would

> honey work? I don't want to ruin the Shea and the lavender if the

> honey

> is going to be a mistake. Any one tried this?

> Ruth

> in sunny Port Townsend

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Do you have any recipes which include honey powder? I bought some awhile back

and was supposed to get recipes with it, but they were not included. I cannot

find anything on the web, either. Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

lynn

RE: Shea butter

The honey will separate out of any oils and butters. I use honey a lot

in a lot of my products and have tested it in all sorts of different

things including lip balms and over time it will separate out of the

butters. You can try honey powder but that may end up feeling gritty.

son

's Lavish Lathers

<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com>

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com

[Guest guest]

, when you use honey in lip balm does it separate out later, after

the tubes are poured?? I made a couple weeks ago. If it's going to separate

would it have already? It looked and felt completely emulsified every time

I've looked at them like hours later to label and later to shrink wrap, then

even later to put away. I haven't noticed anything. Do you think they will

be fine or will it probably still separate? I wasn't sure how soon it would

if it were going to. I only put a little in the balm...

KimG

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On Behalf Of VERONICA DAVIDSON

The honey will separate out of any oils and butters. I use honey a lot

in a lot of my products and have tested it in all sorts of different

things including lip balms and over time it will separate out of the

butters. You can try honey powder but that may end up feeling gritty.

son

[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth ; I've just used honey in my M & P soaps . Now

I'm using yucca root for my bath I think I'll add

honey to the recipe .

I'm adding ground organic oatmeal and almond paste

also .

I'll try honey in my lip balm next time and I'll put

some in with my shea butter and organic coconut oil

tonight .

I put that on my body everynight from head to toe .

It makes my skin feel great .

Rosebud

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A little bit of lanolin will help to emulsify honey in a butter/oil only recipe.

RE: Shea butter

, when you use honey in lip balm does it separate out later, after

the tubes are poured?? I made a couple weeks ago. If it's going to separate

would it have already? It looked and felt completely emulsified every time

I've looked at them like hours later to label and later to shrink wrap, then

even later to put away. I haven't noticed anything. Do you think they will

be fine or will it probably still separate? I wasn't sure how soon it would

if it were going to. I only put a little in the balm...

KimG

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of VERONICA DAVIDSON

The honey will separate out of any oils and butters. I use honey a lot

in a lot of my products and have tested it in all sorts of different

things including lip balms and over time it will separate out of the

butters. You can try honey powder but that may end up feeling gritty.

son

[Guest guest]

I like to mix shea butter with Lavender essential and carrot seed essential.

Works nice and carrot seed is good for eczema and maturing skin.

too2bizymom@... wrote: I only like pure shea or whipped shea for

extremely dry patches.. intensive

treatment. It is oily..and there isnt much you can do about it. Most either

love or hate it, in this form.

I prefer shea based lotions and creams for daily use.

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>

> > I was asked if I could put some honey in the next Shea butter I

made.

> > As a rule I just use Shea butter, Sweet Almond oil and Lavender.

Would

> > honey work? I don't want to ruin the Shea and the lavender if

the

> > honey

> > is going to be a mistake. Any one tried this?

> > Ruth

> > in sunny Port Townsend

> >What about grapeseed extract and lavender? I tried this combo,

but it doesn't stay moist overnight on my face. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lol I've been trying to get a " real " answer from a

supplier on that.

I am pretty sure it has to do with processing and I am

guessing the natural may be heated through once and

strained one time - possibly processed with palm oil

which is what I am trying to have verified - since it

is a different color.I've used the raw the most tho

and I like it fine.

Willow

--- JILL <mesavalleycandleco@...> wrote:

> what is the difference between raw and natural is

> there any?

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's my opinion that natural could mean just about anything made from nature. it

doesn't mean that much to me. I guess because the word is kind of abused by big

companies and gimmick ads of sorts. Raw to me means nothing has been added and

it hasn't been cooked. maybe heated and melted but not cooked. Maybe it's each

in their own perception of wording.

ceece

shea butter

what is the difference between raw and natural is there any?