Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I are

having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The cholesterol

pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's cholesterol

too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only chicken

and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total was below

130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books about Low

Cholesterol.

Thanks

Kate

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I recall it's on a bell curve.

I'm pretty sure 200 is about the middle of the curve, with 240 at the high end

of acceptable by the allopaths. That would make ~160 as low as you want to go.

Someone else might be more exact.

My personal take on cholesterol is that it's nothing to worry about, especially

if antioxidents are a strong part of your protocol.

Buildup in the arteries is due to free radical damage of the artery walls and

cholesterol being part of the " repair " crew. It's the damage that's the problem,

not the amount of cholesterol available to cover it.

Chuck

You don't need to bring your adversaries to their knees, just to their senses!

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:34:49 -0500, " mk " <knowledg@...> wrote:

>Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low?

[Guest guest]

Chuck

Yes, antioxidants are a big part of our protocol. . .but Not regularly on

purpose. Whenever we start to get the flu, alot lately, we take 2 Advil

along with 1500 chewable vitamin C at the same time. It always turns it

right around. The last time he took this combo was Tuesday night or maybe

Wednesday. Would that still be in his bloodstream?

Kate

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> Yeah, I recall it's on a bell curve.

> I'm pretty sure 200 is about the middle of the curve, with 240 at the high

end

> of acceptable by the allopaths. That would make ~160 as low as you want to

go.

[Guest guest]

Probably not.

C is a water soluble vitamin usually best supplemented twice a day as it doesn't

stay in the body. I personally only do once a day, but that's just me.

The point, (at least MY point) is to daily supplement especially with

antioxidants and a high powered one-a-day type multivitamin plus additional C

and E along with anything I'm experimenting with ( currently the newly written

about fad hormones).

I've been a vitamin freak for over thirty years now, since Linus ing wrote

" Vitamin C and the Common Cold " .

Works for me!

I think it would be important for a parent to devour " Life Extension " by Pearson

and Shaw. It's into its umpteeth printing now and still available.

When you see the size of it you'll curse me!

Chuck

You know, just once, I'd like to meet an alien menace

that wasn't immune to bullets!

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:00:14 -0500, " mk " <knowledg@...> wrote:

>Chuck

>Yes, antioxidants are a big part of our protocol. . .but Not regularly on

>purpose. Whenever we start to get the flu, alot lately, we take 2 Advil

>along with 1500 chewable vitamin C at the same time. It always turns it

>right around. The last time he took this combo was Tuesday night or maybe

>Wednesday. Would that still be in his bloodstream?

>Kate

[Guest guest]

Chuck

I'll get the book " Life Extension " and put it on his reading list. . .he's

home schooled so I can do that:) Although, being a teenager he sort of

rebels at anything healthwise:( I made him read Hulda 's Cure for All

Diseases. I think this stuff as a reading list is alot more useful in life

than a public school's reading list. He's an avid reader, so that's no

problem. Thanks

Kate

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> Probably not.

> C is a water soluble vitamin usually best supplemented twice a day as it

doesn't

[Guest guest]

Dear Kate,

I have not had a cholesterol test in several years, but

the last two I recall were in the range of 100 to 120.

I have heard a VERY few references to problems associated

with very low cholesterol. Depression was implicated by

someone, but I don't know if that was legit or misplaced

conclusion on someone's part (don't recall where I heard

this.)

I realize this is not a lot of information, but I'm not

sure there IS a lot of info on this topic!

Moria

p.s. I've been vegetarian for years, and was nearly-vegan

at the time of the tests mentioned. Age was aproximately

35 to 40 years old at the time of tests mentioned.

p.p.s. I'm pretty sure that Pritikan's guideline

for cholesterol is 100 plus your age. (example: 117 for

a 17 year old, or 140 for a 40 year old) He's one of

my heros

[Guest guest]

Dear Chuck,

Right, and it is chlamydia that does the original damage.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> Yeah, I recall it's on a bell curve.

> I'm pretty sure 200 is about the middle of the curve, with 240 at the high

end

> of acceptable by the allopaths. That would make ~160 as low as you want to

go.

> Someone else might be more exact.

> My personal take on cholesterol is that it's nothing to worry about,

especially

> if antioxidents are a strong part of your protocol.

> Buildup in the arteries is due to free radical damage of the artery walls

and

> cholesterol being part of the " repair " crew. It's the damage that's the

problem,

> not the amount of cholesterol available to cover it.

> Chuck

> You don't need to bring your adversaries to their knees, just to their

senses!

>

> On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 22:34:49 -0500, " mk " <knowledg@...> wrote:

>

> >Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low?

>

>

>

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Dear Moria

Missed this part of the message. Hope you're right. Thanks for the info.

Kate

>p.p.s. I'm pretty sure that Pritikan's guideline

for cholesterol is 100 plus your age. (example: 117 for

a 17 year old, or 140 for a 40 year old) He's one of

my heros

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> Dear Kate,

>

> I have not had a cholesterol test in several years, but

> the last two I recall were in the range of 100 to 120.

[Guest guest]

NO!

Oh, you devil, you!

YOU'RE supposed to read it!!!!

Chuck

Never volunteer--they'll send you to earth!

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:30:46 -0500, " mk " <knowledg@...> wrote:

>Chuck

>I'll get the book " Life Extension " and put it on his reading list. . .he's

>home schooled so I can do that:)

[Guest guest]

Generally, the information that I have points

toward a higher stroke incidence for those

with cholesterol lower than 150, although it

should not be much of a risk for a 17 year old.

Now if your son was 65....

jp

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I are

having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The cholesterol

pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's cholesterol

too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only chicken

and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total was below

130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books about Low

Cholesterol.

Thanks

Kate

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I would strongly recommend that you not

take vitamin C with medication. I had a patient

who was taking ibuprophen with vitamins and he

was about to stroke out.

Vitamin C increases your absorption of any drug

and you could have serious side effects from

potentiating the meds.

jp

ntioxidants are a big part of our protocol. . .but Not regularly on

purpose. Whenever we start to get the flu, alot lately, we take 2 Advil

along with 1500 chewable vitamin C at the same time. It always turns it

right around. The last time he took this combo was Tuesday night or maybe

Wednesday. Would that still be in his bloodstream?

Kate

[Guest guest]

But what causes the lower choleresterol?

Joe

At 12:23 PM 12/18/00 -0600, you wrote:

>Generally, the information that I have points

>toward a higher stroke incidence for those

>with cholesterol lower than 150, although it

>should not be much of a risk for a 17 year old.

>Now if your son was 65....

>jp

> Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

>

>

> Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I are

> having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The cholesterol

> pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's cholesterol

> too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only chicken

> and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total was below

> 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books about Low

> Cholesterol.

> Thanks

> Kate

>

>

>

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Low cholesterol, besides being associated

with strokes, is also associated with lung

ailment, some cancers, and higher alcoholism

rate.

I have seen wheat germ oil, choline,

inositol, niacin, and methionine suggested

for low cholesterol.

The person may not be getting the right

kind of oils or fats in his diet.

jp

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

>

>

> Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I are

> having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The cholesterol

> pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's

cholesterol

> too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only chicken

> and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total was below

> 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books about Low

> Cholesterol.

> Thanks

> Kate

>

>

>

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> Low cholesterol, besides being associated

> with strokes, is also associated with lung

> ailment, some cancers, and higher alcoholism

> rate.

> I have seen wheat germ oil, choline,

> inositol, niacin, and methionine suggested

> for low cholesterol.

> The person may not be getting the right

> kind of oils or fats in his diet.

> jp

Not to mention liver problems unrelated to alcoholism. Dr. Atkins states

that people who live longest are reported to have levels between

160-180.

Lana

From the Merck website:

" Hypolipoproteinemia, low levels of fats in the blood, is rarely a

problem but may indicate the presence of other diseases. For example,

cholesterol levels may be low in someone with an overactive thyroid,

anemia, malnutrition, or cancer, or whose absorption of foods from the

gastrointestinal tract is faulty (malabsorption). Therefore, doctors may

be concerned when total cholesterol levels fall below 120 mg/dL.

A few rare inherited disorders lower fat levels enough to have serious

consequences. People with hypobetalipoproteinemia have extremely low

levels of LDL cholesterol but usually have no symptoms and require no

treatment. However, people with abetalipoproteinemia have no LDL

cholesterol and can't make chylomicrons, resulting in the malabsorption

of fat and fat-soluble vitamins, abnormal bowel movements, fatty stools

(steatorrhea), odd-shaped red blood cells, and blindness from retinitis

pigmentosa. Although abetalipoproteinemia can't be cured, taking massive

doses of vitamin E and vitamin A may delay or slow damage to the nervous

system. People with Tangier disease have extremely low HDL cholesterol

levels, leading to abnormal nerve function and enlarged lymph nodes,

tonsils, liver, and spleen. "

------------------------------------------------------------------------

------------------

" Abnormal levels of fats circulating in the bloodstream, especially

cholesterol, can lead to long-term problems. The risk of having

atherosclerosis and coronary artery or carotid artery disease (and

therefore the risk of having a heart attack or stroke) increases as a

person's total cholesterol level increases. Low cholesterol levels are

therefore generally better than high ones, although extremely low

cholesterol levels may not be healthy either. An ideal total cholesterol

level is probably 140 to 200 milligrams of cholesterol per deciliter of

blood (mg/dL) or less. The risk of a heart attack more than doubles when

the total cholesterol level approaches 300 mg/dL.

Not all cholesterol increases the risk of heart disease. The cholesterol

carried by LDL (the so-called bad cholesterol) increases the risk; the

cholesterol carried by HDL (the so-called good cholesterol) lowers the

risk and is beneficial. Ideally, LDL cholesterol levels should be below

130 mg/dL, and HDL cholesterol levels should be above 40 mg/dL. The HDL

level should account for more than 25 percent of the total cholesterol.

The total cholesterol level is less important as a risk factor for heart

disease or strokes than the total cholesterol to HDL cholesterol ratio

or the LDL to HDL ratio. "

> >

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[Guest guest]

Low Cholesterol equals association with strokes (possibly), well, I thought

high cholesterol was associated with strokes.

Is there any doctors on this list that can comment on this?

Joe\

At 02:49 PM 12/18/00 -0600, you wrote:

>Low cholesterol, besides being associated

>with strokes, is also associated with lung

>ailment, some cancers, and higher alcoholism

>rate.

>I have seen wheat germ oil, choline,

>inositol, niacin, and methionine suggested

>for low cholesterol.

>The person may not be getting the right

>kind of oils or fats in his diet.

>jp

> Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> >

> >

> > Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I are

> > having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The cholesterol

> > pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's

>cholesterol

> > too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only

>chicken

> > and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total was

>below

> > 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books

about Low

> > Cholesterol.

> > Thanks

> > Kate

> >

> >

> >

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>your

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[Guest guest]

Okay what would one take to raise their cholesterol level if it is under

the normal range.

What about flax seed oil?

Joe

At 07:02 PM 12/18/00 -0500, you wrote:

>> Low cholesterol, besides being associated

>> with strokes, is also associated with lung

>> ailment, some cancers, and higher alcoholism

>> rate.

>> I have seen wheat germ oil, choline,

>> inositol, niacin, and methionine suggested

>> for low cholesterol.

>> The person may not be getting the right

>> kind of oils or fats in his diet.

>> jp

>

>Not to mention liver problems unrelated to alcoholism. Dr. Atkins states

>that people who live longest are reported to have levels between

>160-180.

>

>Lana

>

>From the Merck website:

> " Hypolipoproteinemia, low levels of fats in the blood, is rarely a

>problem but may indicate the presence of other diseases. For example,

>cholesterol levels may be low in someone with an overactive thyroid,

>anemia, malnutrition, or cancer, or whose absorption of foods from the

>gastrointestinal tract is faulty (malabsorption). Therefore, doctors may

>be concerned when total cholesterol levels fall below 120 mg/dL.

>

>A few rare inherited disorders lower fat levels enough to have serious

>consequences. People with hypobetalipoproteinemia have extremely low

>levels of LDL cholesterol but usually have no symptoms and require no

>treatment. However, people with abetalipoproteinemia have no LDL

>cholesterol and can't make chylomicrons, resulting in the malabsorption

>of fat and fat-soluble vitamins, abnormal bowel movements, fatty stools

>(steatorrhea), odd-shaped red blood cells, and blindness from retinitis

>pigmentosa. Although abetalipoproteinemia can't be cured, taking massive

>doses of vitamin E and vitamin A may delay or slow damage to the nervous

>system. People with Tangier disease have extremely low HDL cholesterol

>levels, leading to abnormal nerve function and enlarged lymph nodes,

>tonsils, liver, and spleen. "

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>------------------

>

> " Abnormal levels of fats circulating in the bloodstream, especially

>cholesterol, can lead to long-term problems. The risk of having

>atherosclerosis and coronary artery or carotid artery disease (and

>therefore the risk of having a heart attack or stroke) increases as a

>person's total cholesterol level increases. Low cholesterol levels are

>therefore generally better than high ones, although extremely low

>cholesterol levels may not be healthy either. An ideal total cholesterol

>level is probably 140 to 200 milligrams of cholesterol per deciliter of

>blood (mg/dL) or less. The risk of a heart attack more than doubles when

>the total cholesterol level approaches 300 mg/dL.

>

>Not all cholesterol increases the risk of heart disease. The cholesterol

>carried by LDL (the so-called bad cholesterol) increases the risk; the

>cholesterol carried by HDL (the so-called good cholesterol) lowers the

>risk and is beneficial. Ideally, LDL cholesterol levels should be below

>130 mg/dL, and HDL cholesterol levels should be above 40 mg/dL. The HDL

>level should account for more than 25 percent of the total cholesterol.

>The total cholesterol level is less important as a risk factor for heart

>disease or strokes than the total cholesterol to HDL cholesterol ratio

>or the LDL to HDL ratio. "

>

>

>

>

>

>> >

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Dear Joe,

Actually, neither are correct.

Strokes are most closely correlated with levels of

homocysteine, an amino acid that is a halfway point

between methionine and glutathione, the two most important

aminos in the body.

Homocysteine builds up because of a lack of B vitamins and magnesium,

which are necessary for conversion into either of the other two forms.

Stress depletes B vitamins, and thus contributes to a stroke.

Take brewers yeast, B12 sublingual and Homozon and you will never have a

stroke.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> > >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I

are

> > > having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The

cholesterol

> > > pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's

> >cholesterol

> > > too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only

> >chicken

> > > and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total

was

> >below

> > > 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books

> about Low

> > > Cholesterol.

> > > Thanks

> > > Kate

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

and

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[Guest guest]

But Dr. Saul , does my low cholesterol , mean anything, ie, should I

raise it, and if so How?

Thanks

Joe

At 03:21 PM 12/19/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Dear Joe,

>

>Actually, neither are correct.

>

>Strokes are most closely correlated with levels of

>homocysteine, an amino acid that is a halfway point

>between methionine and glutathione, the two most important

>aminos in the body.

>

>Homocysteine builds up because of a lack of B vitamins and magnesium,

>which are necessary for conversion into either of the other two forms.

>Stress depletes B vitamins, and thus contributes to a stroke.

>

>Take brewers yeast, B12 sublingual and Homozon and you will never have a

>stroke.

>

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

> Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and I

>are

>> > > having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The

>cholesterol

>> > > pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's

>> >cholesterol

>> > > too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food - only

>> >chicken

>> > > and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total

>was

>> >below

>> > > 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books

>> about Low

>> > > Cholesterol.

>> > > Thanks

>> > > Kate

>> > >

>> > >

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Dear Joe,

If I were you, I would take one ounce of flax oil per day and two eggs

(soft-boiled or raw), along with brewers yeast, B12 sublingual and

magnesium and not worry about the level of cholesterol.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and

I

> >are

> >> > > having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The

> >cholesterol

> >> > > pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's

> >> >cholesterol

> >> > > too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food -

only

> >> >chicken

> >> > > and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total

> >was

> >> >below

> >> > > 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books

> >> about Low

> >> > > Cholesterol.

> >> > > Thanks

> >> > > Kate

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

therapies,

> >and

> >> > >other alternative self-help subjects.

> >> > >

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> >> > >

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find

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sharing

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so

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[Guest guest]

Saul wrote:

> Dear Joe, If I were you, I would take one ounce of flax oil

> per day and two eggs (soft-boiled or raw), along with

> brewers yeast, B12 sublingual and magnesium and not worry

> about the level of cholesterol.

What could one do to " raise cholesterol, " if they've tested

between 120 - 130 for decades -- and they're hyper-allergic to

eggs and brewers yeast ?

I know that cholesterol is the immediate precursor of pregnenolone,

which in turn is the Mother of All Steroids -- including DHEA,

DHEA-Sulfate, cortisol, testosterone, progesterone, estrogen --

and all of their derivative hormones.

This leads to the following questions :

Does " low cholesterol " indicate " low pregnenolone " ?

Would taking supplemental pregnenolone " spare " cholesterol in the

bloodstream, by down-regulating its conversion to pregnenolone,

thus increasing cholesterol test results ?

Or, is the conversion of cholesterol --> pregnenolone already

hyperactive (in cases of chronic low cholesterol), thus " draining "

the cholesterol from the bloodstream in the production of ample --

or needlessly " excessive " -- pregnenolone ?

I've seen all of the other " hormone tests " listed -- for example,

in the Merck Manual -- but never a test for pregnenolone levels.

Testing for pregnenolone and pregnenolone-sulfate should be

relatively simple and inexpensive, if available...

Bill

..

[Guest guest]

I started the flx seed oil yesterday and was taking whites of eggs for the

protein,

are you suggesting eating whole eggs, yellows and all?

I take B12 cap, are you saying sublingual betters?

Another person suggested it good mean other possibilities. Your thoughts on

that please.

thank You

Joe

At 05:23 PM 12/19/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Dear Joe,

>

>If I were you, I would take one ounce of flax oil per day and two eggs

>(soft-boiled or raw), along with brewers yeast, B12 sublingual and

>magnesium and not worry about the level of cholesterol.

>

>Best of Health!

>Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>

> Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son and

>I

>> >are

>> >> > > having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The

>> >cholesterol

>> >> > > pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my son's

>> >> >cholesterol

>> >> > > too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food -

>only

>> >> >chicken

>> >> > > and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol total

>> >was

>> >> >below

>> >> > > 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my books

>> >> about Low

>> >> > > Cholesterol.

>> >> > > Thanks

>> >> > > Kate

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

>therapies,

>> >and

>> >> > >other alternative self-help subjects.

>> >> > >

>> >> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>> >> > >

>> >> > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

>find

>> >here

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>sharing

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>so

>> >at

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>> >ability

>> >> >to

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[Guest guest]

Dear Joe,

Yes, eat the whole egg. It contains lecithin and other good stuff

that will clean up the cholesterol in your blood.

B12 sublingual is much preferred to a swallowed capsule, because it

bypasses the digestive process, which is impaired by a lack of

intrinsic factor in gastric juice, missing in most people over age 50.

Don't forget the brewers yeast, too.

Look at your body as if it was your car.

Cholesterol in your body is the same as oil in a car engine.

You need to change the filter in order to keep the oil clean.

Changing the filter equates to doing a liver cleanse.

Easy, simple and cheap.

Merry Christmas!

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

Re: Low cholesterol in 17 year old

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > Does anyone know if your cholesterol can be too low? My son

and

> >I

> >> >are

> >> >> > > having physicals at home Monday for new life insurance. The

> >> >cholesterol

> >> >> > > pack had two test kits, so for my information, I tested my

son's

> >> >> >cholesterol

> >> >> > > too. I'm 'at' him constantly about eating so much fast food -

> >only

> >> >> >chicken

> >> >> > > and fries:( I'm surprised at the results - his cholesterol

total

> >> >was

> >> >> >below

> >> >> > > 130. Is this alright? I can't find anything in any of my

books

> >> >> about Low

> >> >> > > Cholesterol.

> >> >> > > Thanks

> >> >> > > Kate

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative

> >therapies,

> >> >and

> >> >> > >other alternative self-help subjects.

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will

> >find

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do

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