Medical marijuana

[Guest guest]

Regarding the medical marijuana Issue. My husband also smoke marijuana for

nausea, to to help in the aid of sleep not to mention a calming agent as

well. I must admit, i also occasionally indulge GREAT P.M.S. and agitation

medicine. I have studied marijuana for about 5 years now, and can honestly

say there is no and has never been any scientific evidence that this herb is

harmful to you in any way what so ever. Our government has hidden from us

the good things about it!!! They simply do not want you to know. Not only

the they have never done any extensive testing!!! because they know Dam well

it is one of the safest Illegal " if you will " drugs there is. It has never

caused violent behavior, no one ever in our history has been rushed to the

hospital behind the use of this drug or died for that matter. People of all

walks of life, responsible mothers and fathers, Lawyers, doctors. The D.E.A.

are the assholes when it comes to the mere mention of it. WHY? Hell they

don't want to have layoffs in their business like a lot of us these day's.

It's just to easy to spot to find. The war on drugs has never and will never

work. Sure give out free needles to junkies so they won't get sick. Give me

a fu..ing break. Does our vote really count??? Not if the government has

anything to say about it. I say Smoke it if it makes you feel better.

Jeanine Messmer

realgrrl47 wrote:

> Hi all I live in Northern California, and yes i smoke marijuana, it

> helps tremendously with stress, and actually makes you forget you

> hurt, or depressed, for just a little while wouldn't you like

> a " sense of well being " . I suffered a work injury and have nerve

> compression in wrist, elbows, and shoulders. The hepatitis keeps the

> healing at bay, i guess.

>

> I found out i had this in 1995, either from the Patriotic move i made

> to go into the Air Force in 1973 - check out the experiments they

> tried on us.

>

> Or could have been a transfusion in 1981 - who cares how we got this,

> we need a cure. My insurance for the last 5 years was Kaiser - got

> lots of alt and ast tests - PLEASE note demand a PCR the minute they

> give you a positive diagnosis - they sloughed me off on good scores

> for all those years. Recently I had the Industrial Injury Doc run

> the tests and i get a call - " we are referring you to the Liver

> Clinic " and later found out my virus was having a wonderful time

> inside. Replicating with abandon, at a population of over 3

> million little shapeshifting (manmade?) virus. I read that " Idleness

> is Hepatitis C's best friend.

>

> please research marijuana and hemp before you vote. Just Carol

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Britain to relax laws against marijuana use

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain will respond this week to a dramatic surge in cannabis use by easing laws and allowing millions of marijuana users to smoke without fear of arrest.

Pressure from police, medical experts and politicians for Britain to take a less punitive approach has swayed Home Secretary Blunkett, who is expected Wednesday to downgrade it to a low risk category C drug.

The downgrade -- making cannabis a Class C rather than Class B drug -- will put the drug in the same category as anabolic steroids and growth hormones and make possessing small amounts of it or smoking it in private a non-arrestable offense.

A report published in late 2001 showed cannabis as the most commonly used illicit drug in the European Union, with at least one in 10 adults in the 15-nation group having used it.

The proportion of adults who had used cannabis ranged from 10 percent in Finland to 20-25 percent in Britain, Denmark, France, Ireland, the Netherlands and Spain.

But Blunkett, already in trouble over spiraling crime figures and bitter disputes over police reform, is anxious to portray the move not as an inevitable softening of attitudes but as a refocusing of resources onto harder drugs and onto dealers.

Alongside his announcement to downgrade cannabis, he is also expected to stress that the drug has not and will not be legalized, and announce plans to double the maximum sentence for dealing in the drug to 10 years from five.

But his "carrot and stick" approach has already run up against criticism and drawn accusations of "mixed messages."

Oliver Letwin, the opposition Conservative home affairs spokesman, mocked the supposed tougher sentencing, saying that since cannabis was being downgraded from Class B, which has a maximum 14-year sentence, to Class A, which has a five-year maximum sentence, the effect would be a reduction anyway.

"Will he explain ... how a move from a 14-year maximum sentence to a 10-year maximum sentence constitutes doubling sentences for cannabis dealer?" Letwin asked Blunkett in parliament Monday.

For others, the cannabis downgrade is not enough.

A recent parliamentary committee report urged the government to radically reshape drug policy and move toward a Dutch-style approach by downgrading cannabis, relaxing rules on ecstasy and offering heroin addicts free fixes in injecting rooms.

"Drugs policy in this country has been failing for decades," Cameron, an opposition Conservative member of the committee said when the report was published.

A home office spokeswoman said Blunkett's statement would be "a full response" to the committee's report, although Blunkett dismissed their suggestion that ecstasy should be downgraded from Class A to Class B drug.

An estimated 5 million people in Britain regularly use cannabis and government data show its use has risen sharply over the past two decades.

Long-term use of the drug among people aged between 20 to 24 in England and Wales rose to 52 percent in 2000 from 12 percent in 1981.

Researchers said in March that relaxing cannabis laws could save Britain around 50 million pounds ($77.1 million) a year and free up the equivalent of 500 police officers.

A study by South Bank University's Criminal Policy Research Unit found that around 69,000 people were cautioned or convicted for cannabis possession in 1999, with police spending an average of four hours on each offense.

© Copyright Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. The information contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of Reuters Ltd.

07/09/2002 11:55

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[Guest guest]

Damn, when you figure that one out, let me know... *grins*

Princess

Medical Marijuana

Dear One,

What must I do to get a Medical Marijuana? I live in Southern

California. This is the only thing that will help me eat & sleep at

night. Please email me if you can help: reflexnrg@...

Thank you,

[Guest guest]

,

PLEASE KNOW THIS....

If you are on a liver transplant list, or trying to get on one,

taking ANY form of marijuana will kick you off and keep you from

getting on the list. The chemicals in the marijuana can also damage

your liver much more than it already is!

Your dr can prescribe MARINOL for you. You can also probably find

places up in Northern Cal where you can get it. Type in Medical

Marijuana or Marinol into a search on the net!

LeighAnn

[Guest guest]

Try the corner of Pico and Alvarado. <bg>

> Dear One,

>

> What must I do to get a Medical Marijuana? I live in Southern

> California. This is the only thing that will help me eat & sleep

at

> night. Please email me if you can help: reflexnrg@y...

>

> Thank you,

[Guest guest]

rotflmao !!!

Re: Medical Marijuana

Try the corner of Pico and Alvarado. <bg>

> Dear One,

>

> What must I do to get a Medical Marijuana? I live in Southern

> California. This is the only thing that will help me eat & sleep

at

> night. Please email me if you can help: reflexnrg@y...

>

> Thank you,

[Guest guest]

[ The chemicals in the marijuana can also damage

your liver much more than it already is! ]

I have been trying to find information on this for the past year... where did

you get your information from LeighAnn?

Princess

[Guest guest]

I gotta hunt that down Princess, but remember, any chemicals we put

into our system has to filter through our liver. That includes any

chemicals that may be in marijuana. They show up in labs and urine

tests as well. Even fumes from paint go into our system and are

filtered through the liver and can cause damage.

Soon as I find that I'll post it ok?

LeighAnn

[Guest guest]

LeighAnn,

Okay... thanks

Have a good trip too!

Princess

Re: Medical Marijuana

I gotta hunt that down Princess, but remember, any chemicals we put

into our system has to filter through our liver. That includes any

chemicals that may be in marijuana. They show up in labs and urine

tests as well. Even fumes from paint go into our system and are

filtered through the liver and can cause damage.

Soon as I find that I'll post it ok?

LeighAnn

[Guest guest]

I found this comparison chart...

Comparison Chart

Synthetic THC (dronabinol)

Marijuana (cannabis)

Legally prescribed by physicians usually under the trade name

Marinol.

Currently illegal in AR but legal in nine states.

Oral medication to be swallowed can be a significant problem for

those who are nauseated or vomiting.

With smoked medication -- no swallowing. Even non-nausea patients are

relieved by fewer pills to swallow.

Oral ingestion is preferred if patient cannot tolerate inhalation

Patient may have contraindications for smoking. Natural marijuana can be eaten.

Dosage works slowly.

Dosage works immediately.

Must move to the small intestine before being absorbed into the

bloodstream. After absorption, it passes through the liver, where much is

biotransformed into other chemicals. 90% fails to reach sites of activity in the

body. In tests, after six hours, 57% of subjects taking oral THC had no

measurable amount in the bloodstream.

Moves directly to the bloodstream through the lungs. Within a few

minutes, effective dosage levels are obtained

Dosage is inflexible -- large quantities must be taken, onset of

effectiveness is delayed, and effects linger.

Dosage can be adjusted. Smoking allows patients to match usage to

their symptoms, meaning smaller doses.

Psychoative side effects are greater with oral THC due to changes in

the liver and the lack of other cannabinols which may serve as buffers.

Psychoactive side effects are minimal due to patient control over

dosage and the presence of other cannabinols which occur naturally in marijuana.

Heavy psychoactive effects may create unpleasant reaction,

especially in older patients.

Lighter psychoactive side effects may benefit patients by producing

mild euphoria and sense of well being.

Synthetic THC only; contains none of the natural compounds which

work synergistically and offer unique therapeutic benefit.

Natural marijuana contains other elements and natural compounds

besides THC which work synergistically and offer unique therapeutic benefit

Marinol and other similar medications are often not as effective as

whole marijuana.

In one study of 56 patients who got no relief from standard

antiemitic agents, 78% became symptom free when they smoked marijuana.

Cost of prescription dosage ranges from $362 to $624 per month, with

huge profits going to multinational drug corporations.

Cost of equivalent supply of black market marijuana ranges from $200

to $400 per month. Patients growing

their own plants would have essentially FREE medicine.

Statistics and other factual information gleaned from a variety of

articles, research documents, and investigation. Compiled by Alliance for Reform

of Drug Policy in Arkansas, January 2000.

Medical Marijuana is " ...one of the safest therapeutically- active

substances known to man. "

Re: Medical Marijuana

I gotta hunt that down Princess, but remember, any chemicals we put

into our system has to filter through our liver. That includes any

chemicals that may be in marijuana. They show up in labs and urine

tests as well. Even fumes from paint go into our system and are

filtered through the liver and can cause damage.

Soon as I find that I'll post it ok?

LeighAnn

[Guest guest]

For those interested, if it's smoked, it bypasses the liver supposedly... if

it's eaten, it goes to the liver...

Princess

http://people.howstuffworks.com/marijuana2.htm

Entering the Body

Every time a user smokes a marijuana cigarette or ingests marijuana in some

other form, THC and other chemicals enter the user's body. The chemicals

make their way through the bloodstream to the brain and then to the rest of

the body. The most powerful chemical in marijuana is THC

(delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), which is primarily responsible for the

" high " associated with the drug.

The most common way of using marijuana is smoking. Smoking is also the most

expedient way to get the THC and other chemicals into the bloodstream. When

the smoke from marijuana is inhaled, the THC goes directly to the lungs.

Your lungs are lined with millions of alveoli, the tiny air sacs where gas

exchange occurs. These alveoli have an enormous surface area -- 90 times

greater than that of your skin -- so they make it easy for THC and other

compounds to enter the body. The smoke is absorbed by the lungs just seconds

after inhaling.

You can also eat marijuana. In this case, the marijuana enters the stomach

and the blood absorbs it there. The blood then carries it to the liver and

the rest of the body. The stomach absorbs THC more slowly than the lungs.

When marijuana is eaten, the levels of THC in the body are lower, but the

effects last longer.

[Guest guest]

Message: 16

Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:42:52 -0000

From: " overdehump " <payton323@...>

Subject: Princess Re: Medical Marijuana

Cool link for you! The outlook is pretty grim though. I just love

the TV spots. " 1 in three fatal car crashes involved drivers who

tested positive for marijuana. " Well ya you dumb ass it stays in the

body and you can test positive for 30 days.I remember in the old

days we would be sitting around at 3 AM just ripped watchin the late

movies and that ad would come on with the frying pan. You know " This

is your brain " Then they would through in the eggs and say " This is

your brain on drugs. " We would watch that and then look at each

other, and without a word we would get in the car and go to Dennys

restaurant for ham and eggs! Tooooo funny.

http:/www.marijuana.org

> For those interested, if it's smoked, it bypasses the liver

supposedly... if

> it's eaten, it goes to the liver...

>

> Princess

All I know is it has " saved my life and sanity many many times over the years "

Utah will never pass the bill to make it legal for the sick, whether it be

medical or mental.

Which in itself is pretty sad considering we just had a Judge that sent many

people to prison

for drugs charges get sent to prison himself for drug chrages. His own wife

turned him in after years of cocaine and herion abuse. So he was high while

sending people to jail for a joint. Go figure!

Anyways my husband is painting the bedroom today and i am more worried about the

paint fumes!

Love ya all,

Joalle

[Guest guest]

[ So he was high while sending people to jail for a joint. Go figure! ]

He was in a position of power, and anyone in any position of power rarely

gets busted for anything... it's a pity really.

[ Anyways my husband is painting the bedroom today and i am more worried

about the paint fumes! ]

That one made me smile, as I was the same way. I worried myself silly

over car fumes, paint fumes, you name it fumes *grins* ...

Princess

[Guest guest]

I do know it helped me the few times I used it when w/ a friend who had some. Wonderful stuff. I know it's helped some people I know w/ cancer pain, too. PatI am considering trying medical marijuana for my OA pain,

[Guest guest]

Tried it. Didn't do anything for me. Didn't even make me high. So I quit

it.

Dale

medical marijuana

>I am considering trying medical marijuana for my OA pain, it is legal

>in Oregon with a Dr approval. I have had arthrosopic knee and shoulder

>surgery, I am a 68 YO male. The surgeries did not help at all, my Dr

>gave me my last prescription of Vicoden recently. OTC meds don't stop

>the pain at all, and I am worried, that they will also destroy my

>stomach or heart. So I would like to try marijuana in a vaporizer form,

>as I have never smoked it, nor have I ever smoked cigarettes. Has

>anyone ever tried it for arthritis pain?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am an occasional pot smoker and really found it unhelpful for my OA

pain but my OA was advanced and bone on bone in hip. It did help my

mood however and makes grocery shopping a lot more fun. In the end

the only thing helpful for advanced OA pain is having the surgery to

correct it. Very glad that is over and I am pain free.

Deb

>

> I am considering trying medical marijuana for my OA pain, it is

legal in Oregon with a Dr approval. I have had arthrosopic knee and

shoulder surgery, I am a 68 YO male. The surgeries did not help at

all, my Dr gave me my last prescription of Vicoden recently. OTC meds

don't stop the pain at all, and I am worried, that they will also

destroy my stomach or heart. So I would like to try marijuana in a

vaporizer form, as I have never smoked it, nor have I ever smoked

cigarettes. Has anyone ever tried it for arthritis pain?

>

[Guest guest]

I am the only living human being, who resided close to Big Sur in the

60's and NEVER NEVER had a joint. Boohoo......

>

> Tried it. Didn't do anything for me. Didn't even make me high. So I

quit

> it.

>

>

> Dale

>

> medical marijuana

>

>

> >I am considering trying medical marijuana for my OA pain, it is legal

> >in Oregon with a Dr approval. I have had arthrosopic knee and shoulder

> >surgery, I am a 68 YO male. The surgeries did not help at all, my Dr

> >gave me my last prescription of Vicoden recently. OTC meds don't stop

> >the pain at all, and I am worried, that they will also destroy my

> >stomach or heart. So I would like to try marijuana in a vaporizer

form,

> >as I have never smoked it, nor have I ever smoked cigarettes. Has

> >anyone ever tried it for arthritis pain?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I smoked in the 60s and on. I find it kind of puts me in another

dimension and it does help my pain. I don't use it but a few times a

month, but I sure sleep better on those days.

A lot depends on the strength and quality of the bud and how you smoke

it. It either has to be smoked or cooked. It can be in carrot cake,

brownies, etc. Since I am on a diet to get the weight off my knees I

prefer the smoking.

Also if it doesn't make you high, you finally had a low quality

specimen. There is a big difference between strains. That is one

reason it should be government controlled.

Sherry & Terry

Megabucks Ranch

Reno, NV

www.MegabucksRanch.com

~ a dog that lives outside has an address

~ a dog that lives inside has a home

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:21:53 -0500, you wrote:

>Tried it. Didn't do anything for me. Didn't even make me high. So I quit

>it.

>

>

>Dale

>

> medical marijuana

>

>

>>I am considering trying medical marijuana for my OA pain, it is legal

>>in Oregon with a Dr approval. I have had arthrosopic knee and shoulder

>>surgery, I am a 68 YO male. The surgeries did not help at all, my Dr

>>gave me my last prescription of Vicoden recently. OTC meds don't stop

>>the pain at all, and I am worried, that they will also destroy my

>>stomach or heart. So I would like to try marijuana in a vaporizer form,

>>as I have never smoked it, nor have I ever smoked cigarettes. Has

>>anyone ever tried it for arthritis pain?

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I brought this subject up once, but got no response. I'm curious also. But I think people are uncomfortable discussing it. I have a cousin who lives in California, where medical marijuana is legal. He has friends who are benefiting from it and urges me to try it. But I'm in Virginia, where it is not legal. And I'm a fraidy cat, just not brazen enough to break the law. Also, I expect to work for the next 10 years. Medical related or not, a criminal record could damage my career. But common sense tells me that marijuana has to be better than narcotics. I'd rather be in pain that experience their side effects. If you do try marijuana, my cousin advises that quality is critical. You won't get relief from a poor quality dose. I could see people who are not familiar with marijuana being taken advantage of. If I was in a state where it is legal, I would want someone

in the know to ensure I was getting what I was paying for. Donna

Don't pick lemons.

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[Guest guest]

As a "child" of the sixties I inhaled quite a bit.Mileage may vary but I wouldn't find pot to be a particularly effective pain killer for my bad hip -- and the "side effects" (LOL) are definitely more "interesting" than what I get from a Percoet -- at least with the one or two pills taken per the doctor's prescription. I certainly wouldn't be able to work effectively if I was stoned --  and you do get stoned from smoking pot.I know pot is prescribed for cancer especially -- I would think that it would be effective for the wasting and lack of appetite that is associated with cancer and other diseases -- and especially with the side effects of certain chemotherapy.On the other hand, my friend still inhales recreationally and she thinks it would be effective for life's aches and pains -- but again, pot will get you high whereas Percocet won't -- but I didn't have any real side effects from the small doses of Percocet I took nor from the Oxy I took immediately after the surgery (Percocet is Oxy with Tylenol FWIW).I don't know what the laws are in the great state of Virginia but most police have better things to do (or SHOULD) than bust people buying pot -- or even selling it. On Jun 4, 2007, at 7:55 AM, Donna Hart wrote:I brought this subject up once, but got no response. I'm curious also. But I think people are uncomfortable discussing it. I have a cousin who lives in California, where medical marijuana is legal. He has friends who are benefiting from it and urges me to try it. But I'm in Virginia, where it is not legal. And I'm a fraidy cat, just not brazen enough to break the law. Also, I expect to work for the next 10 years. Medical related or not, a criminal record could damage my career. But common sense tells me that marijuana has to be better than narcotics. I'd rather be in pain that experience their side effects. If you do try marijuana, my cousin advises that quality is critical. You won't get relief from a poor quality dose. I could see people who are not familiar with marijuana being taken advantage of. If I was in a state where it is legal, I would want s! omeone in the know to ensure I was getting what I was paying for. DonnaDon't pick lemons.See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

[Guest guest]

My guess is that the placebo effect is just as strong as anything of

value in the drug. There has not been any real study to find what

benefits the drug has. There maybe and those could be extracted and

given like other meds. There maybe bad side effects as well. The

social side effects can be negative. People that spend a lot of time

getting high lay around and wondering were they are going to get more

and what are they going to do without to pay for it. Oh, they also

use the excuse of health needs.

Don

[Guest guest]

I got a prescription for medical marijuana for my pre-op pain. I had smoked before so knew what to expect. For me, it was great. It really allowed my body to relax and helped me sleep at night. Now, you definately wouldn't want to do this if you were driving/working because it is going to impair your performance, but for home use it definately helped me.

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[Guest guest]

In response to the medical marijuana. It seems to help some but not

all. I live in Oregon where medical pot is legal if you get documents

from the doc then turn those in to the state for & 29, I have a card, I

do not have cancer, I have fybromyalgia, chronic knee and back pain a

car accisent. I have IBS and other stomach problems I feel nauseas most

of the time and smoking helps all of that, also helps with sleep. I do

not use it everyday but when it is needed I do.

Sincerely, Oregon Barbara

[Guest guest]

Hi all: I found this at Answers: According to the NORML (the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), ten states currently legalize or decriminalize the medical use of marijuana in some manner. Since 1996, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon, and Washington have passed legislation that removes state-level penalties from marijuana use by patients who have a doctor's recommendation. In addition, land passed a medical marijuana affirmative defense law in 2003. This dictates that if a person is arrested for marijuana use but is found to be using marijuana out of medical necessity, she or he will only face a modest fine. These state laws specify that marijuana can be used to treat diseases such as arthritis, cachexia, cancer, chronic nervous system disorders, chronic pain, Crohn's disease, epilepsy and other seizure disorders, glaucoma, HIV or AIDS, multiple sclerosis and other muscle spasticity disorders, and help patients cope with severe migraines, severe nausea, and the side effects of chemotherapy. The requirements for

patients and doctors to be protected by these laws vary from state to state. Unfortunately, the legal status of such measures is debatable. The U.S. government has challenged the California law in several cases. Federal law does not recognize a medical use for marijuana and maintains that the drug is a controlled and banned substance under all circumstances.

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[Guest guest]

Hey, I absolutely agree with the benefits. I watched a family

member die very young from a painful disease and it helped him. I

would use it if I could do it legally. I doubt it is legal where I

live, this is the conservative center of the world! Nan

>

> Now to stir the pot. . .has anyone tried medical marijuana for

their symptoms?

>

> Cannabis is legal in California under state law, with a

prescription. I was urged to try it for my sleep and pain issues by

a writer friend who is writing a book about medical marijuana. I was

never a big pot smoker back in the day and the idea of getting

stoned put me off but I decided to give it a go. I now have a

prescription and I've been using it at night and it REALLY helps. No

doubt about it. I sleep all night and wake up feeling GOOD. No

stiffness, no pain, no didn't-get-enough-sleep feeling.

>

> There are many studies coming out (mostly conducted in Europe)

that have shown how cannabis works on the body-- it's kind of like

an adaptogen, normalizing the body's functions. It does so many

amazing things, including protecting and increasing brain cell

production! A new study shows it is very useful for people with

Alzheimer's (let your mind chew on that idea for a while and some

pretty goofy scenarios pop up). Researchers are still finding new

chemical constituents in cannabis and are just beginning to

understand how they work.

>

> I know this is a controversial issue, and not everyone agrees that

it should be legalized for medical usage, but if you could just meet

all the people I have who use it for MS, chronic pain,

> HIV, fibromyalgia, nausea, chronic sleep problems, etc. you would

see how amazing this plant really is. There is great variation

between the different strains, with specificity for pain, anxiety,

depression, etc. Google Medical Cannabis or Marijuana and you'll

find some interesting stuff. There are a few testimonials on Youtube

that are very enlightening. Of course there is a lot of silly stoner

stuff too.

>

> If you have a lot of pain and trouble sleeping, cannabis is

unparalleled, with no addictive qualities, unlike the various pain

and sleep meds often prescribed today. The opponents of medical

cannabis like to call it a " gateway drug, " meaning that it gets

people through the gate and into harder drugs. Personally, I have

never seen this happen. Sure, there are a lot of stoners who like to

get high, just as there are alcoholics who abuse alcohol, but most

people who use cannabis for medical reasons are very responsible and

conscious. Personally, it seems silly to me that something as

destructive as alcohol is legal while something as healing as

cannabis is illegal. Sadly, the illegality stigma of cannabis keeps

people from discovering how helpful it can be for their conditions.

Nobody should have to suffer if there is a safe treatment to help

them.

>

> Bindi

>