Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 Hi Bernie: My son used to eat toothpaste. I have a zero flouride toothpaste now. He also drinks a spring water that isn't flouridated. I just wonder if anything can be done after the fact or is it something once it is done it is done. I have read about flouride being dangerous, but what exactly does it do to the CNS? Thanks kelly Quote
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 Alice, Flouride is more toxic than lead(see the EPA MRL site, ref. in my papers) and is also carcinogenic. EPA scientists " agree " that most people get too much fluoride and that its causing lots of cancer, bone embrittlement(and breakages), dental fluourisis problems in millions of kids, and effects on hormone system, immune system, etc. EPA Scientists who deal with the fluoride issue held a work stoppage in a whole EPA complex to demand that the city there either take fluoride out of the water or that they be provided with bottled water. I think scientific consensus is strongly on the side that fluoride causes more harm than good, and most get too much rather than too little. But the ADA and Dupont(who is getting getting paid for their toxic waste from mining operations) have very powerful lobbies. Bernie Quote
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 In a message dated 3/20/2001 2:05:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, gotojoshua1_9@... writes: Hi Tom's of Maines makes on with no flouride. kelly Hi , My son used to eat toothpaste too. What brand has zero fluoride??? Lindy Quote
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 Hi , My son used to eat toothpaste too. What brand has zero fluoride??? Lindy --- kc62765@... wrote: > Hi Bernie: > My son used to eat toothpaste. I have a zero > flouride toothpaste now. > He also drinks a spring water that isn't > flouridated. I just wonder if > anything can be done after the fact or is it > something once it is done it is > done. I have read about flouride being dangerous, > but what exactly does it > do to the CNS? > Thanks kelly > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 Toms of Maine at Health Store has several that is flouride free- Nature's Gate also has one that is mint and taste great and is less expense then Tom's Re: [ ] re: flouride > Hi , > My son used to eat toothpaste too. What brand has > zero fluoride??? Lindy > --- kc62765@... wrote: > > Hi Bernie: > > My son used to eat toothpaste. I have a zero > > flouride toothpaste now. > > He also drinks a spring water that isn't > > flouridated. I just wonder if > > anything can be done after the fact or is it > > something once it is done it is > > done. I have read about flouride being dangerous, > > but what exactly does it > > do to the CNS? > > Thanks kelly > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 Do they have a website??? --- kenneth kersmanc <kenjoan@...> wrote: > Toms of Maine at Health Store has several that is > flouride free- Nature's > Gate also has one that is mint and taste great and > is less expense then > Tom's > Re: [ ] re: flouride > > > > Hi , > > My son used to eat toothpaste too. What brand > has > > zero fluoride??? Lindy > > --- kc62765@... wrote: > > > Hi Bernie: > > > My son used to eat toothpaste. I have a > zero > > > flouride toothpaste now. > > > He also drinks a spring water that isn't > > > flouridated. I just wonder if > > > anything can be done after the fact or is it > > > something once it is done it is > > > done. I have read about flouride being > dangerous, > > > but what exactly does it > > > do to the CNS? > > > Thanks kelly > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Posted March 20, 2001 At 02:36 PM 03/20/2001 -0500, you wrote: > Nature's >Gate also has one that is mint and taste great and is less expense then >Tom's This is what we use now. They have several flavors including a cherry that Reagan likes. I didn't think anyone in my family would use the stuff but they all do! Lynette Quote
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2002 Report Posted February 12, 2002 in response to: Message: 12 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:38:19 -0500 From: " Judy Ben-Ami " <badin@...> Subject: Re: Fluoride Don't you need the fluoride for the teeth? Judy hi Judy, we have lived more then half of daughters life in places where there is no flouride in water (private wells, spring water etc.) she has never used flouridated toothpaste (Toms natural toothpaste is one of the brands we use), has never had flouride treatments at the dentists AND has never yet had a cavity in her 9 yrs of life... (hoping that continues.. ) ) minna Quote
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Posted June 6, 2002 Hi, You can buy flouride filters for your drinking water and buy flouride free toothpaste (probably not at Walmart) such as Tom's of Maine (make sure you get their flouride free as they also make flouride toothpaste). Jay Quote
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Posted July 30, 2002 In a message dated 31/07/2002 03:35:04 GMT Daylight Time, david_j_mead@... writes: > -flouride > > This can cause kids to be hyper?? > > (has flouride in water)-- In @y..., > Hi I beleive flouride is neurotoxin, has good info on this - check this out <A HREF= " http://www.fluoridation.com/brain.htm " >http://www.fluoridation.com/brain.h\ tm</A> HTH Mandi in UK Filtered water only! Quote
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Posted November 4, 2003 Take a look at a tube " everyday " toothpaste: Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. If more than used for brushing is accidentally swallowed get medical help or contact a poison control center right away... Kathy A Oregon Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 Hi Tina, Just type in the word and you'll get many hits in google. This site lists various governmental agencies, ranging from the EPA to HHS, which warn against the dangers of flouride or excessive flouride. HTH, Orelindel http://www.zerowasteamerica.org/Fluoride.htm > > I have a 7 year old with autism and we have been doing many biomedical > treatments with her including chelation and hyperbarics with some slow > but noticable improovements. I try to teach those I love about how > heavy metal poisoning contributed to my little girls autism but it > usually falls on deaf ears. My brother has a 3 year old son who I > begged to wait with vaccines and make sure they were Thimerosol free (I > find if I tell others to withold from giving vaccines at all they think > I am nuts so at least I say wait until the child is older and go VERY > slow) He did not listen and now this beautiful little boy has some > major speech delays, sensory issues but no formal dx. My sister in law > told me today that they give him daily doses of FLOURIDE and I freaked > out because I read somewhere that this is also very bad especially for > kids with poor excretion of toxins. I need information that I can give > my brother about the dangers of FLOURIDE and why it should be avoided. > He thinks I am crazy and I need concrete proof that what I told him is > valid. > > Thanks in advance, > Tina > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 > I need information that I can give > my brother about the dangers of FLOURIDE and why it should be avoided. > He thinks I am crazy and I need concrete proof that what I told him is > valid. I don't have links, but try googling " flouride bone cancer " . I think last year it came out that a study had showed a link between the two for boys, and the study had been covered up. Even my dentist, who thinks I'm cracked on the subject of Hg, doesn't give flouride to kids anymore. Nell Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 Hi Tina, One more thing. In the August 2006 issue of Prevention Magazine. There is an article entitled: New Research: Is your water safe to drink. It's listed right on the cover and is on page 164. It talks about the dangers of flouridated water. That issue might still be on the shelves were you but magazines. I bought mine at a grocery store. Orelindel > > I have a 7 year old with autism and we have been doing many biomedical > treatments with her including chelation and hyperbarics with some slow > but noticable improovements. I try to teach those I love about how > heavy metal poisoning contributed to my little girls autism but it > usually falls on deaf ears. My brother has a 3 year old son who I > begged to wait with vaccines and make sure they were Thimerosol free (I > find if I tell others to withold from giving vaccines at all they think > I am nuts so at least I say wait until the child is older and go VERY > slow) He did not listen and now this beautiful little boy has some > major speech delays, sensory issues but no formal dx. My sister in law > told me today that they give him daily doses of FLOURIDE and I freaked > out because I read somewhere that this is also very bad especially for > kids with poor excretion of toxins. I need information that I can give > my brother about the dangers of FLOURIDE and why it should be avoided. > He thinks I am crazy and I need concrete proof that what I told him is > valid. > > Thanks in advance, > Tina > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 Read the Fluoride Deception book http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm and information is also on this website. Very enlightening. Also, http://www.equinox-products.com/FluorideMaster.htm M [ ] FLOURIDE I have a 7 year old with autism and we have been doing many biomedical treatments with her including chelation and hyperbarics with some slow but noticable improovements. I try to teach those I love about how heavy metal poisoning contributed to my little girls autism but it usually falls on deaf ears. My brother has a 3 year old son who I begged to wait with vaccines and make sure they were Thimerosol free (I find if I tell others to withold from giving vaccines at all they think I am nuts so at least I say wait until the child is older and go VERY slow) He did not listen and now this beautiful little boy has some major speech delays, sensory issues but no formal dx. My sister in law told me today that they give him daily doses of FLOURIDE and I freaked out because I read somewhere that this is also very bad especially for kids with poor excretion of toxins. I need information that I can give my brother about the dangers of FLOURIDE and why it should be avoided. He thinks I am crazy and I need concrete proof that what I told him is valid. Thanks in advance, Tina Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 If you've determined fluoride is bad, and filter for it (I understand RO works), is there anything you can do about the fluoride you've already consumed? Can you chelate for it? Ghina --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Posted July 24, 2006 It is foul stuff. I wish I'd known earlier, but better late than never. Hi Tina, > > One more thing. In the August 2006 issue of Prevention Magazine. > There is an article entitled: New Research: Is your water safe to > drink. It's listed right on the cover and is on page 164. It talks > about the dangers of flouridated water. That issue might still be on > the shelves were you but magazines. I bought mine at a grocery store. > > Orelindel > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Posted July 25, 2006 If you go to environmental working group (ewg.org) they have a whole section on flouride and the ewg has a lot of credibility. Anita Anita > > > I need information that I can give > > my brother about the dangers of FLOURIDE and why it should be avoided. > > He thinks I am crazy and I need concrete proof that what I told him is > > valid. > > I don't have links, but try googling " flouride bone cancer " . I think > last year it came out that a study had showed a link between the two > for boys, and the study had been covered up. Even my dentist, who > thinks I'm cracked on the subject of Hg, doesn't give flouride to kids > anymore. > > Nell > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 Liz, I heard that it is not the bottled water but the spring water that you should stay away from due to the possibility of more parasites. Bottled water should be reverse osmosis remineralized water like Desani. So this would be a first option, a second option would be regular tap water but it is full of chlorine and flouride and the last choice is spring water due to the fact that it is less regulated and may contain an abundance of parasites. I am not sure of the accuracy of the above and am still in 'investigation mode' to learn more.... but that is what I have 'heard' so far. PS. Great Plains Labratory is have a FREE on-line seminar today (Wednesday) re autism spectrum disorders. Hopefully this post will reach you in time to log-in and sign up for it. Janice [sPAM] [ ] Flouride Anyone know anything about flouride and harmful effects. Here is where I am coming from: Pediatrician gave kids flouridated vitamins since the beginning. I actually asked for the no iron version for daughter because it affected her poop (constipation, etc.) Those problems were iron-related for sure as the poop is better but constipation remains. I have always bought special flouridated water (baby water) for the kids and us to drink because I thought it was better than the tap water. Husband won't drink the bottled water (saving $) and he is the one with the healthiest gut. I had significant gut relief (though more after GFCF) in the winter when I started using baby toothpaste because gastro told me to avoid mint. I now wonder if it was not the mint causing me trouble but the flouride??? This week we ran out of the bottled water and have better bowels. Also, daughter was constipated after switching to flouride paste (son too little for that and still has gut issues anyway). Since I have only heard " Flouride is a problem " butdo not know more I was curious what the discussion is so I can determine if these are lightbulbs going off or mere coincidences. Quote
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Posted June 13, 2007 I have heard that as well. Our tap water, while heavily chlorinated, is not flouridated. Sounds like I need that filter and disani when we are out. Please keep me posted. Thanks for the seminar. As my daughter says " you rock! " Janice wrote: >Liz, > >I heard that it is not the bottled water but the spring water that you should stay away from due to the possibility of more parasites. Bottled water should be reverse osmosis remineralized water like Desani. So this would be a first option, a second option would be regular tap water but it is full of chlorine and flouride and the last choice is spring water due to the fact that it is less regulated and may contain an abundance of parasites. > >I am not sure of the accuracy of the above and am still in 'investigation mode' to learn more.... but that is what I have 'heard' so far. > >PS. Great Plains Labratory is have a FREE on-line seminar today (Wednesday) re autism spectrum disorders. Hopefully this post will reach you in time to log-in and sign up for it. > >Janice > > > [sPAM] [ ] Flouride > > > Anyone know anything about flouride and harmful effects. > > Here is where I am coming from: > > Pediatrician gave kids flouridated vitamins since the beginning. I > actually asked for the no iron version for daughter because it affected > her poop (constipation, etc.) Those problems were iron-related for sure > as the poop is better but constipation remains. > > I have always bought special flouridated water (baby water) for the kids > and us to drink because I thought it was better than the tap water. > Husband won't drink the bottled water (saving $) and he is the one with > the healthiest gut. > > I had significant gut relief (though more after GFCF) in the winter when > I started using baby toothpaste because gastro told me to avoid mint. I > now wonder if it was not the mint causing me trouble but the flouride??? > > This week we ran out of the bottled water and have better bowels. > > Also, daughter was constipated after switching to flouride paste (son > too little for that and still has gut issues anyway). > > Since I have only heard " Flouride is a problem " butdo not know more I > was curious what the discussion is so I can determine if these are > lightbulbs going off or mere coincidences. > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Posted August 17, 2007 I am trying to find remineralized water that doesn't have bad stuff like Disani. Any luck? Janice wrote: >Liz, > >I heard that it is not the bottled water but the spring water that you should stay away from due to the possibility of more parasites. Bottled water should be reverse osmosis remineralized water like Desani. So this would be a first option, a second option would be regular tap water but it is full of chlorine and flouride and the last choice is spring water due to the fact that it is less regulated and may contain an abundance of parasites. > >I am not sure of the accuracy of the above and am still in 'investigation mode' to learn more.... but that is what I have 'heard' so far. > >PS. Great Plains Labratory is have a FREE on-line seminar today (Wednesday) re autism spectrum disorders. Hopefully this post will reach you in time to log-in and sign up for it. > >Janice > > > [sPAM] [ ] Flouride > > > Anyone know anything about flouride and harmful effects. > > Here is where I am coming from: > > Pediatrician gave kids flouridated vitamins since the beginning. I > actually asked for the no iron version for daughter because it affected > her poop (constipation, etc.) Those problems were iron-related for sure > as the poop is better but constipation remains. > > I have always bought special flouridated water (baby water) for the kids > and us to drink because I thought it was better than the tap water. > Husband won't drink the bottled water (saving $) and he is the one with > the healthiest gut. > > I had significant gut relief (though more after GFCF) in the winter when > I started using baby toothpaste because gastro told me to avoid mint. I > now wonder if it was not the mint causing me trouble but the flouride??? > > This week we ran out of the bottled water and have better bowels. > > Also, daughter was constipated after switching to flouride paste (son > too little for that and still has gut issues anyway). > > Since I have only heard " Flouride is a problem " butdo not know more I > was curious what the discussion is so I can determine if these are > lightbulbs going off or mere coincidences. > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Posted August 17, 2007 I wasn't asked but I'd like to offer my own opinion. I would get distilled water (actually, I'd like to have my own water-still because most/all comercial water is bottled in plastic). Its much easier to add your own minerals to the diet and you have control over what goes in. > > I am trying to find remineralized water that doesn't have bad stuff like > Disani. Any luck? > > Janice wrote: > > >Liz, > > > >I heard that it is not the bottled water but the spring water that you should stay away from due to the possibility of more parasites. Bottled water should be reverse osmosis remineralized water like Desani. So this would be a first option, a second option would be regular tap water but it is full of chlorine and flouride and the last choice is spring water due to the fact that it is less regulated and may contain an abundance of parasites. > > > >I am not sure of the accuracy of the above and am still in 'investigation mode' to learn more.... but that is what I have 'heard' so far. > > > >PS. Great Plains Labratory is have a FREE on-line seminar today (Wednesday) re autism spectrum disorders. Hopefully this post will reach you in time to log-in and sign up for it. > > > >Janice > > > > > > [sPAM] [ ] Flouride > > > > > > Anyone know anything about flouride and harmful effects. > > > > Here is where I am coming from: > > > > Pediatrician gave kids flouridated vitamins since the beginning. I > > actually asked for the no iron version for daughter because it affected > > her poop (constipation, etc.) Those problems were iron-related for sure > > as the poop is better but constipation remains. > > > > I have always bought special flouridated water (baby water) for the kids > > and us to drink because I thought it was better than the tap water. > > Husband won't drink the bottled water (saving $) and he is the one with > > the healthiest gut. > > > > I had significant gut relief (though more after GFCF) in the winter when > > I started using baby toothpaste because gastro told me to avoid mint. I > > now wonder if it was not the mint causing me trouble but the flouride??? > > > > This week we ran out of the bottled water and have better bowels. > > > > Also, daughter was constipated after switching to flouride paste (son > > too little for that and still has gut issues anyway). > > > > Since I have only heard " Flouride is a problem " butdo not know more I > > was curious what the discussion is so I can determine if these are > > lightbulbs going off or mere coincidences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 I agree... After much research I would definately go for the distilled water rather than the reversed osmosis remineralized water.... Janice [sPAM] [ ] Flouride > > > > > > Anyone know anything about flouride and harmful effects. > > > > Here is where I am coming from: > > > > Pediatrician gave kids flouridated vitamins since the beginning. I > > actually asked for the no iron version for daughter because it affected > > her poop (constipation, etc.) Those problems were iron-related for sure > > as the poop is better but constipation remains. > > > > I have always bought special flouridated water (baby water) for the kids > > and us to drink because I thought it was better than the tap water. > > Husband won't drink the bottled water (saving $) and he is the one with > > the healthiest gut. > > > > I had significant gut relief (though more after GFCF) in the winter when > > I started using baby toothpaste because gastro told me to avoid mint. I > > now wonder if it was not the mint causing me trouble but the flouride??? > > > > This week we ran out of the bottled water and have better bowels. > > > > Also, daughter was constipated after switching to flouride paste (son > > too little for that and still has gut issues anyway). > > > > Since I have only heard " Flouride is a problem " butdo not know more I > > was curious what the discussion is so I can determine if these are > > lightbulbs going off or mere coincidences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Posted April 19, 2008 Dear , Ask your dentist to give you a prescription for a flouride rinse you use twice a day. It will help with the cavities, also a special toothpaste. I'm too lazy to go to the bathroom to get the name, as I'm quite sleepy, but if you want the names, let me know and I will get it for you. LOL. Blessings, Lottie Quote
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