New Member

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On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Ann Grady wrote:

> Hi,

> My name is Ann & I live in Sydney, Australia, & I'm new to the

> group. A

> little bit about me....

<Snip>

> My background is in Cancer Nursing where I was always getting into

> trouble

> for wanting essential oils to be evaporated in the waiting rooms &

> treatment

> areas & for wanting to use lavender oil on radiation burns!!!!!

> Always the

> rebel!!!!

>

> I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone & gathering

> knowledge from

> all your vast experiences.

>

> Many thanks for inviting me into the group.

> Ann from Oz.

> Great Spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre

> minds.

> Albert Einstein.

HI Ann,

Welcome. Here are a few links that might help in " seducing " your

employers in allowing you to use Essential oils in the hospital.

Others are doing it.

Good luck.

MJ

http://takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/therapies/aromatherapy/research

http://www.csh.umn.edu/csh/research/home.html

http://www.mmaonline.net/publications/MNMed2002/November/Halcon.html

http://www.rirdc.gov.au/programs/eop.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4091

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Hi Ann,

***WELCOME***

This is a Fabulous group...I know you will enjoy it here.

Blessings and (((HUGS)))

Halina in Australia (Melbourne)

" Do what you can, for who you can,

with what you have, and where you are. "

www.halinasheaven.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Grady

Hi, My name is Ann & I live in Sydney, Australia, & I'm new to the group.

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In a message dated 5/4/2006 12:31:54 AM Central Standard Time,

heikeramsey@... writes:

> He is starting to have some issues with

> not wanting to be " different " from his peers so he will not always

> be honest when he is not feeling well. He misses more school than

> the other kids but his teacher is understanding(wish I could say the

> same of the administration)I schedule a time at the beginning of the

> year to meet with the teacher and explain Noahs condition(I download

> info off the net for them to read) that seems to help

Heike:

Welcome to the group. I wanted to tell you that you can be supported in your

son's absences, you don't have to worry about what the administration thinks.

I believe this is a national law -- the 504 Plan, which is a legal plan that

protects children who are disabled and helps to make sure they get the proper

eduction, regardless of their disability.

I think it's " slaw.com " that has info on it -- your son would qualify

for a 504 Plan under the " other health impaired " clause. Somebody jump in here

if this is not national, but I'm pretty sure it is. We're in Illinois.

Anyway, my DD's plan allows for her to be absent whenever she needs to with

no penalty ever, gives her extra time to make up work missed if needed, lets

her have her own art supplies, provides for her desktop to be cleaned daily,

makes the school send a letter home at the beginning of the year stating there

is

a child in class with an immune disorder so make sure to follow the rules

about keeping sick kids home, makes the nurse call us when she thinks there

could

be an outbreak of anything, just to give us a heads-up, I think that's all. I

have to fight for the plan every year -- they don't want to make more work

for themselves or put it on paper to create a possible liability, but I haven't

backed down yet. They try to argue that " there are kids in the school with

asthma that don't have 504 Plans " and I came right back with, " Well, that's

probably because they don't know they are entitled to it. " That shut them RIGHT

up!!!

Anyway, welcome! Oh, and what we do about the feeling different thing is that

we don't really talk about it with other people, and the other parents don't

know " who " the child with the PID is, so nobody treats her any differently,

and doesn't even know about the letter. But she knows she gets sick a

lot.... so how I covered that was I pointed out that lots of people have

challenges -- Uncle Dave has diabetes and can't have sweets and does finger

sticks and

gets shots every day -- Aunt Hari has rheumatoid arthritis and gets shots

every week and takes medicine every day and sometimes has a hard time moving her

joints -- cousin Molly has asthma -- some kids are in wheelchairs -- Timmy from

down the street has a hearing aid -- from down the street has a tube

in her eye -- etc. etc.

Hope that helps!

(mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD (resolving?) --

currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG, IgA,

t-cell & other defs... and also to Kate, age 3-1/2, more dairy intolerant but

very healthy!)

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Heike

Do you have all the info from the IDF???

They have a new booklet specifically written for schools....that

contains a lot of info

504 plans fall under the Americans with Disabilities Act and do not have

all the legal supports of an IEP, but our kids should qualify for this,

depending on how your school district is...

We are in a BAD district, that is very much in a failure mode before any

intervention....

Long story and I am still really angry..

slaw is good, but according to our DPI (dept of Public

Instruction)they are on the liberal side and can " inflame " parents...

She gave me www.edgov.com I believe...I haven't checked it out tho....

Your state should have a parent training center...I have a list for all

contact agencies by state, email me off list and I can get that to you

this weekend.

Sign up for the IG living magazine...there are currently articles in

there about transitioning kids talking about adolescence and then

adulthood...that website is www.igliving.com

I need to get to bed..If there Is more that I can do, let me know.

I am pretty good at the IDEA/IEP and 504 stuff since we have been

BATTLING for our non PID kid...

Re: new member

In a message dated 5/4/2006 12:31:54 AM Central Standard Time,

heikeramsey@... writes:

> He is starting to have some issues with

> not wanting to be " different " from his peers so he will not always

> be honest when he is not feeling well. He misses more school than

> the other kids but his teacher is understanding(wish I could say the

> same of the administration)I schedule a time at the beginning of the

> year to meet with the teacher and explain Noahs condition(I download

> info off the net for them to read) that seems to help

Heike:

Welcome to the group. I wanted to tell you that you can be supported in

your

son's absences, you don't have to worry about what the administration

thinks.

I believe this is a national law -- the 504 Plan, which is a legal plan

that

protects children who are disabled and helps to make sure they get the

proper

eduction, regardless of their disability.

I think it's " slaw.com " that has info on it -- your son would

qualify

for a 504 Plan under the " other health impaired " clause. Somebody jump

in here

if this is not national, but I'm pretty sure it is. We're in Illinois.

Anyway, my DD's plan allows for her to be absent whenever she needs to

with

no penalty ever, gives her extra time to make up work missed if needed,

lets

her have her own art supplies, provides for her desktop to be cleaned

daily,

makes the school send a letter home at the beginning of the year stating

there is

a child in class with an immune disorder so make sure to follow the

rules

about keeping sick kids home, makes the nurse call us when she thinks

there could

be an outbreak of anything, just to give us a heads-up, I think that's

all. I

have to fight for the plan every year -- they don't want to make more

work

for themselves or put it on paper to create a possible liability, but I

haven't

backed down yet. They try to argue that " there are kids in the school

with

asthma that don't have 504 Plans " and I came right back with, " Well,

that's

probably because they don't know they are entitled to it. " That shut

them RIGHT

up!!!

Anyway, welcome! Oh, and what we do about the feeling different thing is

that

we don't really talk about it with other people, and the other parents

don't

know " who " the child with the PID is, so nobody treats her any

differently,

and doesn't even know about the letter. But she knows she gets

sick a

lot.... so how I covered that was I pointed out that lots of people have

challenges -- Uncle Dave has diabetes and can't have sweets and does

finger sticks and

gets shots every day -- Aunt Hari has rheumatoid arthritis and gets

shots

every week and takes medicine every day and sometimes has a hard time

moving her

joints -- cousin Molly has asthma -- some kids are in wheelchairs --

Timmy from

down the street has a hearing aid -- from down the street has a

tube

in her eye -- etc. etc.

Hope that helps!

(mom to , age 7, dairy intolerant-related GERD (resolving?)

--

currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had transient IgG,

IgA,

t-cell & other defs... and also to Kate, age 3-1/2, more dairy

intolerant but

very healthy!)

[Guest guest]

" After so many visits for the same complaint, both he and his staff began

treating me like I was just overacting. Has anyone had this problem? "

Welcome!

I am so glad to hear that you were able to finally get the right help with

Noah, though I am sorry to hear that it took so long to find the right doctor!

This is the case with many of our kiddos and why I am involved with this group.

I have also been jaded by our experiences with the " health care system " but now

know that there are some outstanding professionals out there -- sadly, it is a

lot of luck and serendipity to find them. This is not good enough for the

children and my hope is that groups like this and the IDF will improve access to

responsible care.

My daughter had " average " doctor(s) which, for her, was almost disasterous.

Like you, we got the run around and were referred to as " first time parents " .

Actually, had we would not have put up with so much negligence! After two years

of trying to keep our daughter afloat she started to crash. We has no other

choice but to flee to another state -- where she finally got treatment and was

diagnosed over the course of many long months. Her story is not unique.

Like you, we try to be organized and keep detailed notes on how she is

feeling, her infections, labs, infusion records, communications with health care

professionals (mostly billing departments), etc., etc. It is another part time

job...

I am glad to hear that your son is doing so well! There are parents here at

all different stages...from prediagnosis all the way to kids who have been on

IVIG for years (some in college!) and even a few that control their own care!

We run the whole spectrum here and when our kiddos are feeling better (a few are

sicker than usual right now), you will hear from the others. There are even a

few moms that were recently diagnosed by their kid's immunologists!

Sending well wishes to everyone...

mom to CVIDer

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the conference. Do you ever get to Norman? Merrie Eden <tcs.ee@...> wrote: Hi Merrie, What part of Oklahoma do you pratice in? in TulsaMerrie Elisens <wkbe8350@...> wrote: Hi, , Welcome to the group! I am a psychologist in Oklahoma and I work mainly with children and their families. I see about 30-40% of my clients for NFB, using

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Hi, Steve

You will find as you begin this journey, how many of us there are.

My husband found out five years ago (at 13 years clean and sober) that

he has Hepatitis C and cirrhosis and is now on the liver transplant list.

I don't have cirrhosis but the Hepatitis has begun to take a toll the

last couple of years. (I have 18 years) We both came into this relationship

15 years ago with HCV, didn't know anything about it.

Our whole way of life has changed. We've made MANY changes and

adjustments, Priorities have changed. We've lost a lot, but we have gained

much, much more.

We've come to believe that if all this had happened a minute sooner than

it did, we would not have been able to handle it. Time brings maturity

and stability Time brings us the absolute certainty that a loving God

watches over us and that all is OK, in spite of how it may appear otherwise.

When I really got honest with myself, I realized that every day since

I got clean and sober has been a gift anyway. There are no guarantees.

Ultimately it's still a GREAT life and we're grateful for each and every

minute of it

It's really important to make sure that your Doctor does a liver biopsy,

otherwise you'll never know for sure exactly where you stand.

Keep us posted.....

best thoughts,

Kelli

chicagosteve658 wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> My name is Steve,I'm a sober active member of AA for 13+ years now

> thanks to the grace of God and AA Fellowship.I went for my yearly

> physical 2 months ago and had elevated liver enzymes-What?I was shocked

> to hear this after being clean and sober 13 years with normal enzymes

> all that time.I was sent to a specialist who ordered more sophisticated

> tests which confirmed Hep C.I am seeing this doctor next week to

> discuss the test results and am reaching out for all the info I can get

> about this disease.

> Thank God for what I've learned in AA about acceptance of life on

> God's terms.I hope to post here often as this scenario unfolds,there

> are many here who will know the answers to questions I may have.

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have

> found the support you need with us.

>

> If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group,

> just click the link-- Hepatitis C/

>

> Happy Posting

>

>

>

>

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welcome steave and there are alot here with some really great info.and 1 nutty guy that will scream alternative treatment,herbs but hes a not so bad guy i think he goes under hillbilly something. lol

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Thanks for the welcome Tim.Next week I'll know more about my diagnosis after I talk to the doctor.I'm 60 years old and I thought all that shit was now behind me,the heroin addiction at 21,the active alcoholism for 30 years,and all the other substance abuse.But God has put something else on my plate now and being sober and an active member of AA has given me ways to cope.I've had the best years of my life these last 13 and hopefully I'll stick around for awhile. SteveHillbilly Tim <knoxweb1@...> wrote: welcome steave and there are alot here with some really great info.and 1 nutty guy that will scream alternative treatment,herbs but hes a not so bad guy i think he goes under hillbilly something. lol Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

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>

> welcome steave

> and there are alot here with some really great info.and 1 nutty

guy that will scream alternative treatment,herbs but hes a not so bad

guy i think he goes under hillbilly something. lol

>

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Thanks for the welcome,I remember when I first went to AA and didn't

feel welcome,that it was another place where I didn't fit in.I never

let that happen if I'm around,I'll go and talk to the guy even if he's

loaded.Sometimes you just feel a moral obligation to extend

yourself,I'm sure that's what my Creator would want.

Steve

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well alot of us are in that boat . i was a crack addict for 20 years and meth .never was iv drug user. drank that whole time,ive been clean less then 4 years but have lived a very good life the last 2 years since comeing to god,i have found that god is the only one there all the time and he never gets tired of listing,he bless't me as a new father at the age of 40 before i was hcv.i have twins that are 13 that i see about once a month, that i never was a real parent to them,because i was a drunk ,high addict.so now i am a single dad a chance most never get again.i thank god every day for such a wonderful gift,and hes does very well i keep very busy and thru him enjoy each new thing with him ,hep c has added time to my life i feel since feb i have lost over 35 pounds now .i was over the 230's now at 195 my bp over 20 points both sides and now exercise so without hep c my way of life would never have let me relize how bad of shape my body was in,there are alot of

things you will consider ways to treat or not to treat, etc hep c is not as bad as it sounds diebetes is more deadly but most except that as oh well .

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thats great tim,, Im proud of you! wtg,, and you are right,, God is the healer!Hillbilly Tim <knoxweb1@...> wrote: well alot of us are in that boat . i was a crack addict for 20 years and meth .never was iv drug user. drank that whole time,ive been clean less then 4 years but have lived a very good life the last 2 years since comeing to god,i have found that god is the only one there all the time and he never gets tired of listing,he bless't me as a new father at the age of 40 before i was hcv.i have twins that are 13 that i see about once a month, that i never was a real parent to them,because i was a drunk ,high addict.so now i am a single dad a chance most never get again.i thank god every day for such a wonderful gift,and hes does very well i keep very busy and thru him enjoy each new thing with him ,hep c has added time to my life i

feel since feb i have lost over 35 pounds now .i was over the 230's now at 195 my bp over 20 points both sides and now exercise so without hep c my way of life would never have let me relize how bad of shape my body was in,there are alot of things you will consider ways to treat or not to treat, etc hep c is not as bad as it sounds diebetes is more deadly but most except that as oh well . New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Jackie

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At 01:25 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote:

>Hello everyone.My name is Simone and I'm from Greece. It wasn't until

>I smelled some nice jasmine eo that I became interested into the whole

>thing. I do not know much but thank you for the stuff I found here. It

>is great that you all nice people share your ideas... I have made some

>creams with beeswax, rosewood and rose otto and lip balms but all my

>attempts to make perfume turn 'cloudy or milky'. I use alcohol 95%

>but maybe I use the wromg dose of water. Can someone explain to me how

>I can overcome this problem? How much water do i need to add, if any

>at all?

Hi Simone:

Welcome to the group, and how I love Greece (in my dreams, never been there

;-) Oh, the lemons and oregano and feta and blue skies and white buildings

and history!

Your perfume problem sounds like it is a water problem. I suggest you look

back in our archives, as recommended in your welcoming message. You'll find

lots about the " water " problem. Dear Dorothy of Kingsbury often replies to

this problem, and she and JoAnne and others who are patient, careful

crafters of EdT and colognes often use the drop-by-drop method until they

find the perfect amount.

Anya

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At 01:38 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote:

>First Question - most of my reading on perfume blends suggest using

>approx. 30 drops to 1/3 oz. oil (such as jojoba). I have made

>SEVERAL blends that I like. However, they do not seem to have any

>lasting power. Is this a good e.o. to base oil ratio?

Can somebody else help Diane here if I am reading her query incorrectly?

Jojoba is a base oil, but it is not a base *aromatic* oil, which is needed

to aid in fixation. You can find lots on base aromatic notes in our

archives, Diane.

>Second Question - I would love to have the recipe from for the

>flea spray and shampoo. I read Anya's answer to not use this on

>cats. I have 3 indoor/outdoor cats and as soon as the weather warms,

>here comes the fleas. What do you suggest for cats?

I have my kitties indoors all the time, so no help there. Perhaps someone

else has an idea. I know lots of folks use Advantage,a nd I have NO idea if

it is harmful to the cats or not, but I suspect so. I know the EOs are very

harmful.

Anya

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Hello Everyone!

My name is Sheri Zarchy. I became involved with fragrances 7 years ago when I

was hired by a fragrance company to analyze the flowers in their greenhouse.

I moved into the commercial fragrance department, and began analyzing

commercial fragrances, doing CG and CG/MS to identify the components, and

re-construct for the perfumers to use. We would re-construct using as many

essential oils as possible, so I had to become very familiar with the components

of essential oils.

I got moved back into my original position in December of 2005, this time

actually re-creating the fragrances using essential oils and chemicals.

Then January of this year, they had a 6% reduction of the workforce, and

ta-da!

I have been unemployed ever since.

In my home life, I have used aromatherapy and essential oils for both myself

and my children, and am always amazed at the ability of something so pure and

natural to have such wonderful benefits.

I have been a fan of the blog " nowsmellthis " for quite some time, and found

this site.

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Welcome Sheri,

Wow, what an interesting job you had! Would you ever construct a

flower aroma from essential oils only (no synthetics?).

Looking forward to your involvement in the group!

>

> Hello Everyone!

> My name is Sheri Zarchy. I became involved with fragrances 7 years

ago when I was hired by a fragrance company to analyze the flowers in

their greenhouse.

> I moved into the commercial fragrance department, and began

analyzing commercial fragrances, doing CG and CG/MS to identify the

components, and re-construct for the perfumers to use. We would

re-construct using as many essential oils as possible, so I had to

become very familiar with the components of essential oils.

> I got moved back into my original position in December of 2005,

this time actually re-creating the fragrances using essential oils and

chemicals.

> Then January of this year, they had a 6% reduction of the

workforce, and ta-da!

> I have been unemployed ever since.

> In my home life, I have used aromatherapy and essential oils for

both myself and my children, and am always amazed at the ability of

something so pure and natural to have such wonderful benefits.

> I have been a fan of the blog " nowsmellthis " for quite some time,

and found this site.

>

[Guest guest]

<mfrey_97@...> wrote: Welcome Sheri,

Wow, what an interesting job you had! Would you ever construct a

flower aroma from essential oils only (no synthetics?).

Looking forward to your involvement in the group!

Hi ,

Thanks! There were attempts made to use strictly essential oils, but depending

on the flower, some of them were impossible to recreate the ratio of one

component to the next (like trying to recreate grapefruit, using just orange

oil..........impossible). But my personal goal was to use as many as possible.

Then, the perfumers would adjust to their liking.

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> >Hello everyone.My name is Simone and I'm from Greece. It wasn't until

> >I smelled some nice jasmine eo that I became interested into the whole

> >thing.

>

> Hi Simone:

> Welcome to the group, and how I love Greece

> Your perfume problem sounds like it is a water problem. I suggest

you look

> back in our archives,

Thank you for the advice sweetheart!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just joined the group and I am really excited. I have a lot of questions

because I have so much to learn. I'll read the group files and recommended

books, though, first!

I do have one first question I'd like to ask. I just read the following on a

website:

STOP USING VODKA!

Did you know that per US Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms laws, the sale of

perfumes made with vodka or Everclear are not allowed?

Is this true?? I wouldn't think it would be a problem--it's not someone is

going to drink a natural perfume.

Thank you much!

Ocean Moon

oceanmoon@...

[Guest guest]

Edited to correct top post and trimmed.........

Hi,

I just joined the group and I am really excited. I have a lot of

questions because I have so much to learn. I'll read the group files

and recommended books, though, first!

I do have one first question I'd like to ask. I just read the following

on a website:

STOP USING VODKA!

Did you know that per US Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms laws, the sale of

perfumes made with vodka or Everclear are not allowed?

Is this true?? I wouldn't think it would be a problem--it's not someone

is going to drink a natural perfume.

Thank you much!

Hi ,

That's from our website!

The reason that the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) forbids the sale

of " perfumes " made with drinking alcohols is because you are now

construed as " serving " -- and of course, we assume, you have no license

to serve drinking alcohol? The US Federal government is not interested

in whether you have added essential oils, they are only interested in

collecting all the taxes due to them and to prevent illegal consumption.

Trina at Snowdrift Farm

[Guest guest]

> That's from our website!

>

> Trina at Snowdrift Farm

Slightly OT, but Trina, I do not see any " order " or " purchase " buttons

on the Perfumer's Alcohol page on your site all of a sudden... are

you hiding them?

There is only information and links to more information.

Also, a quick question if anyone can answer:

Long story short: through miscommunication and both of us being busy

and in a hurry, I wound up with a bottle of Completely Denatured

Alcohol (Formula 19, 190-proof) from a local pharmacy. Is this safe

to use for anything? I do not sell anything, I do not even make stuff

for friends. At this point, I'm just experimenting and learning for

myself (hobby). Wondering if it is " good enough/safe enough " to use

just for that purpose? (thinking small perfume blends here, but any

other suggestions welcome).

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

> That's from our website!

>

> Trina at Snowdrift Farm

Slightly OT, but Trina, I do not see any " order " or " purchase " buttons

on the Perfumer's Alcohol page on your site all of a sudden... are

you hiding them?

There is only information and links to more information.

Also, a quick question if anyone can answer:

Long story short: through miscommunication and both of us being busy

and in a hurry, I wound up with a bottle of Completely Denatured

Alcohol (Formula 19, 190-proof) from a local pharmacy. Is this safe

to use for anything? I do not sell anything, I do not even make stuff

for friends. At this point, I'm just experimenting and learning for

myself (hobby). Wondering if it is " good enough/safe enough " to use

just for that purpose? (thinking small perfume blends here, but any

other suggestions welcome).

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

At 04:49 PM 5/26/2006, you wrote:

>Hi,

>I just joined the group and I am really excited. I have a lot of

>questions because I have so much to learn. I'll read the group files and

>recommended books, though, first!

>I do have one first question I'd like to ask. I just read the following

>on a website:

>STOP USING VODKA!

>Did you know that per US Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms laws, the sale of

>perfumes made with vodka or Everclear are not allowed?

>Is this true?? I wouldn't think it would be a problem--it's not someone

>is going to drink a natural perfume.

Hi :

Actually, alcoholics will drink anything, sad to say. Rubbing alcohol,

mouthwash, cologne. I think it was of Bois de Jasmin who wrote of

people in Russia who drank cologne when vodka wasn't available.

>

Anya

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At 04:49 PM 5/26/2006, you wrote:

>Hi,

>I just joined the group and I am really excited. I have a lot of

>questions because I have so much to learn. I'll read the group files and

>recommended books, though, first!

>I do have one first question I'd like to ask. I just read the following

>on a website:

>STOP USING VODKA!

>Did you know that per US Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms laws, the sale of

>perfumes made with vodka or Everclear are not allowed?

>Is this true?? I wouldn't think it would be a problem--it's not someone

>is going to drink a natural perfume.

Hi :

Actually, alcoholics will drink anything, sad to say. Rubbing alcohol,

mouthwash, cologne. I think it was of Bois de Jasmin who wrote of

people in Russia who drank cologne when vodka wasn't available.

>

Anya

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At 10:12 AM 5/27/2006, you wrote:

>Long story short: through miscommunication and both of us being busy

>and in a hurry, I wound up with a bottle of Completely Denatured

>Alcohol (Formula 19, 190-proof) from a local pharmacy. Is this safe

>to use for anything? I do not sell anything, I do not even make stuff

>for friends. At this point, I'm just experimenting and learning for

>myself (hobby). Wondering if it is " good enough/safe enough " to use

>just for that purpose? (thinking small perfume blends here, but any

>other suggestions welcome).

Kathy, just ask the pharmacist what Formula 19 is denatured with. I'm sure

they will provide the answer.

Anya

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