Coconut Oil

[Guest guest]

Corny,

I am looking also. I bought a jar of Spectrum oil. It said expeller

pressed. Does that mean heat-free? Anyone know?

I have been using Omega Brand coconut butter. It says suitable for

vegans. Does that mean no heat applied?

Mike Slivinski made a post a day or two ago with a source:

http://www.coconut-info.com/

Here is the text of that post:

> ****************

It's not Sodium Lauryl Sufate that is " good " , but probably the trace

amounts

of monolauric acid, the precursor to lauric acid which is also found in

mother's milk, that is good. You would be better off getting this from

fresh

coconut milk (a daily part of our diet here in the Philippines) or pure

coconut oil. Be aware that it is hard to find unrefined coconut oil.

Sorry

to " toot my own horn " here, but we do produce Virgin Coconut Oil here in

the

Philippines and ship it out to the US on a weekly basis. We have a

separate

website set-up with links to most of the recent research done on coconut

products and their anti-viral properties: www.coconut-info.com

Enig is

the one who has done the most research in this area.

jim

Mike E Cornwall wrote:

>

> Wondering if anyone has found a source(mail order or otherwise) of

> UNREFINED coconut oil (or butter). I know Spectrum has an organic

> coconut oil, but it is " semi-refined " according to the label.

> Corny

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[Guest guest]

>Wondering if anyone has found a source(mail order or otherwise) of

>UNREFINED coconut oil (or butter). I know Spectrum has an organic

>coconut oil, but it is " semi-refined " according to the label.

>Corny

here's one: http://www.hippocrates.com.au/coconut.html

Kokonut Pacific cold-pressed oil. It's available

from Hippocrates in a 175ml jar.

Queries? Simply phone at (07) 5530 2860.

Hippocrates Health Centre of Australia

Elaine Avenue

Mudgeeraba

Gold Coast

Queensland 4213

http://www.hippocrates.com.au

..

[Guest guest]

Also, Mercola's got lots to say recently ... two different links... would have

cut & paste but was long.

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_health.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_oil.htm

----- Original Message -----

From: Lorenzo

There are several reports on CNO at : http://coconut-info.com

[Guest guest]

Also, Mercola's got lots to say recently ... two different links... would have

cut & paste but was long.

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_health.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/28/coconut_oil.htm

----- Original Message -----

From: Lorenzo

There are several reports on CNO at : http://coconut-info.com

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Maybe this is the message you are referring to:

longevity/message/1706

You can find a lot of recipes and suggestions for how to use coconut

oil in the group Coconut-info:

coconut-info/

I eat it straight as it is and use it on my skin and use it for frying

etc like any other oil but with the added benefit, beside the

antiviral properties, that it is a very stable oil that will not get

rancid or oxidized by free radicals and therefore not partake in a

free radical cascade involving lipid peroxides.

Sources for " virgin " coconut oil:

Produced by cold pressing and centrifugation:

http://www.qualityfirst.on.ca/CVO.htm

http://www.coconutoil-online.com/index.html

Produced by traditional fermentation:

http://www.coconut-info.com/

I personally prefer the two first sources because of the milder taste,

but a lot of people order from the last source, which also is a good

oil.

Best wishes,

- Jan

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/6/2002 3:32:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ebooks@... writes:

> Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for Coconut

> Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

>

Palm Kernal Oil is a great substitute......just run through lye calculator if

you change your oils.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Lana...I asked this same question yesterday (somewhere else) and the Winning

answer was....Palm Kernel Oil.... Or leave it out and refigure the recipe

........Castor oil will give you bubbles.....and you can leave out coconut.

HTH.....Carla

Coconut Oil

Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for Coconut

Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

[Guest guest]

Palm Kernel Oil as a substitute for Coconut Oil? I have a feeling that

the kernel (i.e. nut) of the palm in question IS the coconut.

Bob Foulkes

Re: Coconut Oil

In a message dated 3/6/2002 3:32:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ebooks@... writes:

> Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for

Coconut

> Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

>

Palm Kernal Oil is a great substitute......just run through lye

calculator if

you change your oils.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Lana,

I am not sure that there is a suitable substitute as coconut oil gives you

your big bubbles. This is the number one oil of soap makers. It makes a

meduim to hard bar of soap. However, coconut oil can be drying to the skin

so use no more then 20%-30 % coconut oil in your recipe. You don't say why

you want a sub. Maybe my answer would be different depending on your

reason.

Sherry

Coconut Oil

> Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for

Coconut Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lana,

Castor oil is not what I would consider a proper substitute for coconut oil.

Castor oil makes a very soft and sticky bar of soap with sparse (very

little) bubbles, which is not what you want in a bar of soap. Castor oil is

most successfully used in superfatting. It attracts and holds moisture in

the skin, much like lanolin. Use this with other oils for a hard soap. I

have read to limit castor oil to 12% of your total oils, not making for a

good substitute.

Sherry

Coconut Oil

>

>

> Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for

Coconut Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lana,

After doing more research I agree with the other writer on the palm kernal

oil. Palm kernal oil or flakes, not to be confused with palm oil, is a

sustitute for coconut oil. It traces quickly and should not be more then

25% of your totoal fats. More would be drying to the skin just as the

coconut oil would be. This too, will give you fluffy bubbles, same as the

coconut oil. My answer on the castor oil stands.

Sherry

Coconut Oil

>

>

> Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for

Coconut Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, Palm Kernal Oil is a substitute for Coconut Oil but I can find no where

that indicates Palm Kernal Oil is anywhere close to Coconut Oil. I do not

even know if there is a connection between Palm Oil and Palm Kernal Oil. I

will have to research this more.

Sherry

Re: Coconut Oil

>

> In a message dated 3/6/2002 3:32:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> ebooks@... writes:

>

>

> > Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for

> Coconut

> > Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

> >

>

> Palm Kernal Oil is a great substitute......just run through lye

> calculator if

> you change your oils.

>

> Donna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.colebrothers.com/soap/oils.html

http://users.silverlink.net/~timer/soapdesign.html#Properties

Lana and others new to soap making here are a couple of links that have been

a great help to me in figuring out prosperities of oils. I hope they are

helpful to you as well. Palm kernel is a good sub for coconut too. Palm

doesn't have much to offer your soap sort of like soy.

Chris

www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

Re: Coconut Oil

> >

> > In a message dated 3/6/2002 3:32:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > ebooks@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Can anyone out there tell me if there is a suitable alternative for

> > Coconut

> > > Oil in a soap recipe? Thanks. Lana.

> > >

> >

> > Palm Kernal Oil is a great substitute......just run through lye

> > calculator if

> > you change your oils.

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I have a stone basement and mine stay fresh for at least a year.

HTH,

Jan S

www.sweetprairiesoap.com

soap & sundries wholesale/retail

Collapsible Soap Molds in 2 sizes.

jans@...

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[Guest guest]

Unless they are several years old, I would not worry. To me (and each

person is different), I can immediately smell rancid oils - even like

crisco or something like that!!

Kristal

coconut oil

Does anyone know how long coconut and palm oil will last? They both seem

to

smell ok but have had them for sometime now, if they were rancid would I

be

able to tell without a doubt. Was storing them in the fridge but had to

make

room for food! so they have been at room temp for

sometime.....TIA....Pam

[Guest guest]

Pam, I have kept mine out in the garage in hot Florida , as I get them in

the 50lb. bags and they are fine. I did bring the coconut oit inside because

the last time I got the 76 degree and it did get soft out side, so I rushed

it into the closet. I have done this for the last two years. Hope this helps.

You could smell rancid oil . Not a pretty smell. Have a great week. Esther

[Guest guest]

Both Coconut and Palm should last a minimum of 9 months . You can extend the

life of any oil by keeping them cool and sealed tightly.

When it comes to rancidity , follow your nose. If an oil is bad there will be no

mistaking the odor.

Mike Lawson

Columbus Foods / Soaper's Choice

Base Oils & Vegetable Glycerin Soap Base

Toll Free : 800-322-6457x230 - Chicago, Illinois 60612

http://www.soaperschoice.com

coconut oil

Does anyone know how long coconut and palm oil will last?

[Guest guest]

Coconut is a no-no for AB blood types, btw.

Melinda

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis.

The Spectrum stuff is bleached and deodorized. That's why it doesn't smell like

coconut.

Therapeutic results are obtained only from the real stuff that hasn't been

tampered with.

Try:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/virgin_coconut_oil.htm

http://coconut-info.com/

One or both sites should also have books explaining the benefits of coconut oil.

By the way, I've tried the oil from both sites and it's all good.

Best,

Nenah

Coconut Oil

>I have long been aware of coconut oil as a healthy fat. I have a bottle of

Spectrum Organic Coconut Oil on the shelf for awhile using it occasionally.

Recently I picked up a bottle of Nutiva Coconut Oil and holy cow!, of smelled of

sweet fresh coconut. The Spectrum product had no such smell (lower quality?)

Although it is not without its detractors (Pritikin), the consensus seems to be

that Coconut Oil is very healthy and one of the best oils to use for cooking. So

I am in the process of upping the use of coconut oil alongside olive oil.

>

> Dennis

>

> P.S. Nutiva Coconut Oil worked great in a pancake mix I used for

breakfast.......the subtle coconut flavor worked well.

[Guest guest]

Nenah,

I thought Spectrum was a good product.

Oh well.........live & learn.

Thanks for the links.

Dennis

Coconut Oil

>

>

>>I have long been aware of coconut oil as a healthy fat. I have a bottle of

>>Spectrum Organic Coconut Oil on the shelf for awhile using it

>>occasionally. Recently I picked up a bottle of Nutiva Coconut Oil and holy

>>cow!, of smelled of sweet fresh coconut. The Spectrum product had no such

>>smell (lower quality?) Although it is not without its detractors

>>(Pritikin), the consensus seems to be that Coconut Oil is very healthy and

>>one of the best oils to use for cooking. So I am in the process of upping

>>the use of coconut oil alongside olive oil.

>>

>> Dennis

>>

>> P.S. Nutiva Coconut Oil worked great in a pancake mix I used for

>> breakfast.......the subtle coconut flavor worked well.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dennis

Most of the folks wanting healthful not-heat-treated organic coconut

fat in their diet use either of two brands.

Tropical Traditions is the one I use.

I believe Mercola hawks it also.

The other good source is

http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/

I've used both!

Chuck

Anything that is good and useful is made of chocolate

On 11/13/2005 12:45:43 AM, Dennis Lipter (black54@...) wrote:

> Nenah,

>

> I thought Spectrum was a good product.

>

> Oh well.........live & learn.

>

> Thanks for the links.

>

> Dennis

>

> ----- Original Message -----

[Guest guest]

make your own coconut cream

juice the meat of a coconut in a twin gear juicer

or get a young coconut and scoop out the meat

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis. Yes, I bought a bottle of spectrum and opened it and promptly took

it back to the store and said, Thanks but no thanks. I might have used it on my

car, but not on me.

I have not used Nutiva, but it sounds like good stuff. I have used

http://www.4radiantlife.com and http://www.tropicaltraditons.com

I prefer radiant life's, at this point, tho the TT stuff is supposed to be

better it does not smell as strongly of coconut as the RL stuff.

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

http://www.goodhealth.nu\us\1387/

Coconut Oil

I have long been aware of coconut oil as a healthy fat. I have a bottle of

Spectrum Organic Coconut Oil on the shelf for awhile using it occasionally.

Recently I picked up a bottle of Nutiva Coconut Oil and holy cow!, of smelled of

sweet fresh coconut. The Spectrum product had no such smell (lower quality?)

[Guest guest]

Where do you purchase coconut oil? Do you take it internally, and use it on

your skin both? I have not heard of using it to cure yeast problems. Would you

have to use it in large quantities?

Thanks,

SherryLee

Re: sesame seeds shatter

And coconut cream is good to eat also. You can make coconut milk with it by

adding a little hot water. Maybe even some maple syrup, too. You can also use

the coconut cream like a spread . You can cure a yeast infection with coconut

oil, too. For 5 cents worth of coconut oil! And I know people who have gone to

dr. continually with yeast problems and spend so much on meds!!! If you keep in

fridge it will solidify...which is soothing if you use it as a bolus. Tropical

Traditions has the best.

Jertoons@... wrote: Riswana -- I notice a lot of lifts, too, going mostly

(now all) vegetable.

And you naturally research and find out more and more.

I do feel MUCH better, much less, like you, stressed out.

Many times better.

COCONUT OIL is good in thyroid. Also will up your metabolism a bit. They

say it makes you lose a little weight, but I'm just starting it this week.

One thing I was " afraid " of trying is using on my skin. Oh boy, was I wrong

!

But you have to apply it when you are " dirty " (well, you have to really be

dirty). You DON'T apply it right after you come out of the shower (you can,

but you don't get all the benefits).

There is a good reason -- the coconut oil has the RIGHT kind of oil to do

" the job " that the sebacous gland try to do on the skin naturally. But for

them to work, the friendly bacteria residing on your skin has to be present.

The oils (especially those in the coconut oil -- the SAME virgin oil you can

eat off the spoon, add to foods and cook with) need to be broken apart by

those

naturally occurring skin bacteria -- once that happens, they perform a

variety of health functions.

JUST TRY IT !

Do it all over your body. Again not right after soaping. Like the night

before you're going to shower the next morning.

You want to clean your groin area with paper first -- but put the coconut

oil everywhere (use toilet paper to apply onto the " down under " areas).

You'll be amazed at how good you feel and how GREAT your skin feels and

looks. You can just tell this has done its job.

Sorry for going off sprouts here, but then, too, coconut oil is a really

good food.

I just had some boiled potatoes that went cold -- drip the coconut oil, add

sprouts, season (I had a tiny bit of sage and pepper with mine and that was

yummy) and you've really got a tasty snack.

Jerry in Pennsylvania

[Guest guest]

No as far as great quantities. Usually yeast infection gone within 3 to 5 days.

I like Tropical Traditions. go to www.tropicaltraditions.com and you can

probably enter your area or zip code and find out who near you carries their

products. Sometimes health food stores, sometimes a local co-op. Yes you can

take it internally and use it externally. A really good book, you can request

this at your local library is " The miracle of coconut oil " .

SherryLee <sc1me@...> wrote: Where do you purchase coconut oil? Do

you take it internally, and use it on your skin both? I have not heard of using

it to cure yeast problems. Would you have to use it in large quantities?

Thanks,

SherryLee

Re: sesame seeds shatter

And coconut cream is good to eat also. You can make coconut milk with it by

adding a little hot water. Maybe even some maple syrup, too. You can also use

the coconut cream like a spread . You can cure a yeast infection with coconut

oil, too. For 5 cents worth of coconut oil! And I know people who have gone to

dr. continually with yeast problems and spend so much on meds!!! If you keep in

fridge it will solidify...which is soothing if you use it as a bolus. Tropical

Traditions has the best.

Jertoons@... wrote: Riswana -- I notice a lot of lifts, too, going mostly

(now all) vegetable.

And you naturally research and find out more and more.

I do feel MUCH better, much less, like you, stressed out.

Many times better.

COCONUT OIL is good in thyroid. Also will up your metabolism a bit. They

say it makes you lose a little weight, but I'm just starting it this week.

One thing I was " afraid " of trying is using on my skin. Oh boy, was I wrong

!

But you have to apply it when you are " dirty " (well, you have to really be

dirty). You DON'T apply it right after you come out of the shower (you can,

but you don't get all the benefits).

There is a good reason -- the coconut oil has the RIGHT kind of oil to do

" the job " that the sebacous gland try to do on the skin naturally. But for

them to work, the friendly bacteria residing on your skin has to be present.

The oils (especially those in the coconut oil -- the SAME virgin oil you can

eat off the spoon, add to foods and cook with) need to be broken apart by

those

naturally occurring skin bacteria -- once that happens, they perform a

variety of health functions.

JUST TRY IT !

Do it all over your body. Again not right after soaping. Like the night

before you're going to shower the next morning.

You want to clean your groin area with paper first -- but put the coconut

oil everywhere (use toilet paper to apply onto the " down under " areas).

You'll be amazed at how good you feel and how GREAT your skin feels and

looks. You can just tell this has done its job.

Sorry for going off sprouts here, but then, too, coconut oil is a really

good food.

I just had some boiled potatoes that went cold -- drip the coconut oil, add

sprouts, season (I had a tiny bit of sage and pepper with mine and that was

yummy) and you've really got a tasty snack.

Jerry in Pennsylvania