Re: Contamination.info

[Guest guest]

My experience is telling me that it's not necessarily just what's

coming out of the vent, but perhaps the electrical charge of the

computer activates the mycotoxins, to the point that I react to the

computer in general. Does this make sense?

Has anyone tried disassembling the computer completely,

and

> > then cleaning off the computer components with Q-tips and 91%

rubbing

> > alcohol? (and gloves, of course)

> >

> > I have several computers and I am not able to use three of them

now.

> > (nomatter how much I try to filter the intake and exhaust on the

fans,

> > mold gets in there.)

> >

> > There is no way I am going to throw them away.. (couldn't afford

to

> > replace them now)

> >

> > I have to figure out a way to decontaminate them. Total

dissassembly

> > (down to the separate component level) seems like the only

option..

> > The fans may need to be completely replaced.. and the heatsinks

will

> > need some srious cleaning in some kind of spray situation.. but I

> > think it is doable.. (although a major pain in the neck, as it

looks

> > like it would be a multi-day job disasembling, then washing

> > everything, then drying - in a clean environment, then

reassembling.)

> >

> > A big caution to everyone here.. DONT LET YOUR COMPUTER ANYWHERE

NEAR

> > IONIZERS/'ozone generators' - without their cases on - (and

maybe

> > even with) as they will fry - invisibly - delicate components

like CPU

> > and memory chips..

> >

> > A thought.. Some newer computers and motherboards offer an

interesting

> > new option.. noiseless, fanless operation.. In fact, many

computers

> > can run without fans *if you underclock them*

> >

> > That means running the computer clock speed *slower* than its

designed

> > for by at least 25%

> >

> > (Thats CPU speed - You can set the CPU clock speed in the BIOS,

so for

> > example, a 2 GHz CPU might be able to be *under*clocked to 1.5

GHz and

> > run without a fan. It would also take less power at that speed,

> > perhaps enabling the power supply fan to also be turned off. If

you

> > are interested in this, do some research - don't try this

yourself

> > unless you know what you are doing, you could easily fry your

CPU -

> > blow out your computer's brain - if you screw up!)

> >

> > When you do that, the CPU may be able to run without the fan on,

which

> > would reduce the tendancy of the computer to collect dust.

> >

> > There is a whole new genre of computers, in fact, that are

designed to

> > run without fans, instead they have big fins on the outside,

which,

> > although they do collect dust, are external and relatively easily

> > washable..(compared to the inside)

> >

> > Do a search on the phrases " silent pc " or " mini-itx " or " fanless

> > computer " you'll get the idea..

> >

> > Here's a picture of one:

> > http://news.thomasnet.com/images/large/2005/02/460211.jpg

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

" julesblucky " wrote:

>

> My experience is telling me that it's not necessarily just what's

> coming out of the vent, but perhaps the electrical charge of the

> computer activates the mycotoxins, to the point that I react to the

computer in general. Does this make sense?

>

Yes. Prof Harriet Amman warned me of this effect in '98 and described

it as the primary effect of electrostatic oxidation of spores

attracted to the intense magnetic field.

My insistence that I have been operating with a different perspective

that has given me a better level of recovery has resulted in

assertions of unacceptible egotism.

I would appreciate it if anyone can examine my old messages and give

me an example of this.

From my point of view, I have only been offering information from the

best sources available - which has often been " challenging " and

contrary to conventional concepts.

-

[Guest guest]

Jules- this sounds exactly whats happening to me

Has anyone tried disassembling the computer

completely,

> and

> > > then cleaning off the computer components with Q-tips and 91%

> rubbing

> > > alcohol? (and gloves, of course)

> > >

> > > I have several computers and I am not able to use three of

them

> now.

> > > (nomatter how much I try to filter the intake and exhaust on

the

> fans,

> > > mold gets in there.)

> > >

> > > There is no way I am going to throw them away.. (couldn't

afford

> to

> > > replace them now)

> > >

> > > I have to figure out a way to decontaminate them. Total

> dissassembly

> > > (down to the separate component level) seems like the only

> option..

> > > The fans may need to be completely replaced.. and the

heatsinks

> will

> > > need some srious cleaning in some kind of spray situation..

but I

> > > think it is doable.. (although a major pain in the neck, as it

> looks

> > > like it would be a multi-day job disasembling, then washing

> > > everything, then drying - in a clean environment, then

> reassembling.)

> > >

> > > A big caution to everyone here.. DONT LET YOUR COMPUTER

ANYWHERE

> NEAR

> > > IONIZERS/'ozone generators' - without their cases on - (and

> maybe

> > > even with) as they will fry - invisibly - delicate components

> like CPU

> > > and memory chips..

> > >

> > > A thought.. Some newer computers and motherboards offer an

> interesting

> > > new option.. noiseless, fanless operation.. In fact, many

> computers

> > > can run without fans *if you underclock them*

> > >

> > > That means running the computer clock speed *slower* than its

> designed

> > > for by at least 25%

> > >

> > > (Thats CPU speed - You can set the CPU clock speed in the

BIOS,

> so for

> > > example, a 2 GHz CPU might be able to be *under*clocked to 1.5

> GHz and

> > > run without a fan. It would also take less power at that speed,

> > > perhaps enabling the power supply fan to also be turned off.

If

> you

> > > are interested in this, do some research - don't try this

> yourself

> > > unless you know what you are doing, you could easily fry your

> CPU -

> > > blow out your computer's brain - if you screw up!)

> > >

> > > When you do that, the CPU may be able to run without the fan

on,

> which

> > > would reduce the tendancy of the computer to collect dust.

> > >

> > > There is a whole new genre of computers, in fact, that are

> designed to

> > > run without fans, instead they have big fins on the outside,

> which,

> > > although they do collect dust, are external and relatively

easily

> > > washable..(compared to the inside)

> > >

> > > Do a search on the phrases " silent pc " or " mini-itx "

or " fanless

> > > computer " you'll get the idea..

> > >

> > > Here's a picture of one:

> > > http://news.thomasnet.com/images/large/2005/02/460211.jpg

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

-Please - I only hope that years down the line I am accused of

the same thing, as I try and explain things to sick people on the

group- your info has been extremely usefull to me, if I had found

the group before I moved into my rental, I could have saved myself

allot of illness. And you are the only person who gave me hope of

recovering my belongings and art work. The only thing we have to

offer people here is what has worked for us, and what we have heard

from experts. From deep inside the well of despair- those outside

might seem to be crowing- but because we cannot go and phisically

help each person- what can we do but talk- talk- and say the same

things over and over- without the rays of hope you gave me last year-

I would surely be in a dark place. Instead I am healthier than i

have been in 14 years

-- In , " erikmoldwarrior "

<erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote:

>

> " julesblucky " wrote:

> >

> > My experience is telling me that it's not necessarily just

what's

> > coming out of the vent, but perhaps the electrical charge of the

> > computer activates the mycotoxins, to the point that I react to

the

> computer in general. Does this make sense?

> >

>

> Yes. Prof Harriet Amman warned me of this effect in '98 and

described

> it as the primary effect of electrostatic oxidation of spores

> attracted to the intense magnetic field.

> My insistence that I have been operating with a different

perspective

> that has given me a better level of recovery has resulted in

> assertions of unacceptible egotism.

> I would appreciate it if anyone can examine my old messages and

give

> me an example of this.

> From my point of view, I have only been offering information from

the

> best sources available - which has often been " challenging " and

> contrary to conventional concepts.

> -

>