Re: Vinyl mattress covers versus fabric

February 6, 2006

I just bought a mattress cover and pillow covers at Wal-mart. Says

breathable and waterproof and I can't remember what it is made of. It

looks more like a fabric but not vinyl but I wondered too if breathable

if it keeps the toxins away from me. It does say keeps the mites

away. I figured anything that might help. Should I cover the box

springs too? The mattress cover was near $25 and the pillow covers

near $4. I may buy new pillows sometime but washed and dried the ones I

have now and they are covered.

Rhonda

>

> National Allergy Supply for mattresses advertises only the fabric

> barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other

> allergens from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for mattress,

> you need to buy two box spring encasings and use one for the

mattress,

> so I guess not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm sure

> fabric is more desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though the

> tightly woven fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you,

> would 'breathable' quality of them allow toxins to get to you,

> ASSUMING their would be toxins associates with dust mites or other

> microbes in mattress?

> Thanks bb

>

February 6, 2006

There was some talk about some covers you could get at Walmart for protection.

Loni

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: National Allergy Supply for mattresses

advertises only the fabric

barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other

allergens from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for mattress,

you need to buy two box spring encasings and use one for the mattress,

so I guess not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm sure

fabric is more desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though the

tightly woven fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you,

would 'breathable' quality of them allow toxins to get to you,

ASSUMING their would be toxins associates with dust mites or other

microbes in mattress?

Thanks bb

FAIR USE NOTICE:

February 6, 2006

Even the ones I got from Walmart were noisey first night as far as

the pillows. I put a flannel pillow case over a cotton one and was

fine. I also thru out a foam mattress cover I had over mattress and

miss that so might get another and put it inside the zip up cover. I

had a cotton mattress cover on my bed ever since I had it but not

sure how much that protected the mattress from being contaminated

with whatever. I know those lovely night sweats I get here and there

had got thru the sheets to the cotton cover and maybe to the foam.

Gross... Those sweats started back along with the sleeping problems,

tremors ETC. so now I know from mycotoxins.

I started cleanup and was NOT fun and I think I inhaled some more

stuff. I couldn't hardly get out of bed this morning and felt like I

had been hit by a truck. I threw out some things and was doing a lot

of washing but haven't started the two closets yet and that will be a

job. I didn't throw out all my valences and my

comforter/shams/bedskirt. I started wiping things down wet wiping.

There is so much to do and little time but weekends and nobody

helping. I also need to hepa vac my car and I'm asking for a new

office chair, one that can be wiped off too. The place I work at is

nasty enough and dust everywhere and I have to work here 5 1/2 more

years. I also need to wipe down my coats and vac them. There is so

many things to wipe down and clean. This is so crazy.

I sent a letter to my neuro last week and sent Dr. Shoemaker's book

today so time will tell if he will follow protocol and if not, I will

go to plan B.

Rhonda

National Allergy Supply for

mattresses advertises only the fabric

> barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other

> allergens from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for

mattress,

> you need to buy two box spring encasings and use one for the

mattress,

> so I guess not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm sure

> fabric is more desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though

the

> tightly woven fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you,

> would 'breathable' quality of them allow toxins to get to you,

> ASSUMING their would be toxins associates with dust mites or other

> microbes in mattress?

> Thanks bb

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

February 6, 2006

I would think that fabric would invite mold. Loni

Loni Rosser <loni326@...> wrote: There was some talk about some covers

you could get at Walmart for protection. Loni

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: National Allergy Supply for mattresses

advertises only the fabric

barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other

allergens from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for mattress,

you need to buy two box spring encasings and use one for the mattress,

so I guess not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm sure

fabric is more desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though the

tightly woven fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you,

would 'breathable' quality of them allow toxins to get to you,

ASSUMING their would be toxins associates with dust mites or other

microbes in mattress?

Thanks bb

FAIR USE NOTICE:

February 7, 2006

Rhonda,

Mattress covers MUST be air and moisture tight. The porous cotton and

polyester ones therefore do not fit the bill. The best covers have fabric

over a polyurethane barrier.

If the plastic is uncomfortable, you can use any standard mattress cover but

it MUST be washed at least biweekly. A mattress cover on a contaminated

should never be removed for cleaning, as this will release allergens.

During allergen penetration testing for covers, the loading methodology is

unrealistic. In the real world, allergens (or mycotoxins if present) can

get through the porous-type covers. They are only successful on new

mattresses.

C. May

May Indoor Air Investigations LLC

1522 Cambridge Street

Cambridge, MA 02139

617-354-1055

www.mayindoorair.com

www.myhouseiskillingme.com

>> Message: 1

> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:42:41 -0000

> From: " Rhonda " <rhondaleokitty@...>

> Subject: Re: Vinyl mattress covers versus fabric

>

> Even the ones I got from Walmart were noisey first night as far as

> the pillows. I put a flannel pillow case over a cotton one and was

> fine. I also thru out a foam mattress cover I had over mattress and

> miss that so might get another and put it inside the zip up cover. I

> had a cotton mattress cover on my bed ever since I had it but not

> sure how much that protected the mattress from being contaminated

> with whatever. I know those lovely night sweats I get here and there

> had got thru the sheets to the cotton cover and maybe to the foam.

> Gross... Those sweats started back along with the sleeping problems,

> tremors ETC. so now I know from mycotoxins.

>

> I started cleanup and was NOT fun and I think I inhaled some more

> stuff. I couldn't hardly get out of bed this morning and felt like I

> had been hit by a truck. I threw out some things and was doing a lot

> of washing but haven't started the two closets yet and that will be a

> job. I didn't throw out all my valences and my

> comforter/shams/bedskirt. I started wiping things down wet wiping.

> There is so much to do and little time but weekends and nobody

> helping. I also need to hepa vac my car and I'm asking for a new

> office chair, one that can be wiped off too. The place I work at is

> nasty enough and dust everywhere and I have to work here 5 1/2 more

> years. I also need to wipe down my coats and vac them. There is so

> many things to wipe down and clean. This is so crazy.

>

> I sent a letter to my neuro last week and sent Dr. Shoemaker's book

> today so time will tell if he will follow protocol and if not, I will

> go to plan B.

>

> Rhonda

>

> National Allergy Supply for

> mattresses advertises only the fabric

>> barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other

>> allergens from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for

> mattress,

>> you need to buy two box spring encasings and use one for the

> mattress,

>> so I guess not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm sure

>> fabric is more desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though

> the

>> tightly woven fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you,

>> would 'breathable' quality of them allow toxins to get to you,

>> ASSUMING their would be toxins associates with dust mites or other

>> microbes in mattress?

>> Thanks bb

>>

>

February 7, 2006

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, barb1283 wrote:

From what I have been told those vinyl barriers smell like new shower

liners. If plastics are a trigger this will set most sensitiive people

off. Remember most linens come in plasztic bags andc the liners have been

offgassing in a confined area. Been there suffered the

consequences....caveat emptor!

> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:32:08 -0000 From: barb1283

> <barb1283@...> Reply- To:

> Subject: [] Vinyl mattress

> covers versus fabric

>

> National Allergy Supply for mattresses advertises only the fabric

> barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other allergens

> from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for mattress, you need to

> buy two box spring encasings and use one for the mattress, so I guess

> not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm sure fabric is more

> desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though the tightly woven

> fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you, would 'breathable' quality

> of them allow toxins to get to you, ASSUMING their would be toxins

> associates with dust mites or other microbes in mattress? Thanks bb

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

February 7, 2006

The one I bought is polyethlene and says waterproof so it sounds like

the type you are talking about. I can't remember the brand name but

will look at Walmart and see. I think I saw a vinyl one too but

someone told me not to get vinyl. Maybe when it said breathable

meant if gets wet will dry or something b/c vinyl moisture wouldn't.

Well I removed my mattress cover and got poisoned some more. I just

can't get away from this crap. Stirring up poison all over my

house. It's all on my clothes too and when I take them out of closet

spreading mycos everywhere and wearing them all day too. I washed

the mattress cover. Are you saying trash it? I'm trashing my

pillows and did the comforter/shams and bed skirt. I have lots of

sheets. Do I have to trash them or can I wash them. This is getting

ridiculous b/c I can't wipe every single item I have in my house. I

have tons of stuff! I'm worse since air scrubber and remediation and

me trying to clean. The clothes thing is freaking me out and I have

NO space for them so called clean ones to be while doing the job. If

I take to laundry mat not sure how they do washing there or what

detergent and if I take a pile of clothes wonder if I'll get them all

back. I'd ask my neighbor If I could hang some at her place but her

house is toxic too. My family haven't offered any help. Then comes

the shoes and I have tons of them and some suede. Then there is

Christmas decorations and it goes on and on and

on................................................. Give me a link

where the right covers are or a store so I can compare.

I really can't figure out how my bunnies haven't dropped dead b/c

they are very sensitive and sit on the vents and those mycos were

going right in their systems. I'm scared of what might be happening

to their health I don't know yet. They haven't been there 12 years

tho but got the worse of the toxins. I bet my cats cancer came from

this crap too.

Rhonda

National Allergy Supply for

> > mattresses advertises only the fabric

> >> barriers for mattresses and say they keep dust mites and other

> >> allergens from getting to you 100%. If you want vinyl for

> > mattress,

> >> you need to buy two box spring encasings and use one for the

> > mattress,

> >> so I guess not a hit for mattresses. Question I have is I'm

sure

> >> fabric is more desireable for comfort than vinyl but even though

> > the

> >> tightly woven fabrics can keep 'bed pests' away from you,

> >> would 'breathable' quality of them allow toxins to get to you,

> >> ASSUMING their would be toxins associates with dust mites or

other

> >> microbes in mattress?

> >> Thanks bb

> >>

> >

>

February 7, 2006

I can so relate to what you are going through. You can't walk away from

everthing. Living in a tent is sounding better & Better all the time like Bob.

Loni

Rhonda <rhondaleokitty@...> wrote: The one I bought is polyethlene and

says waterproof so it sounds like