Re: This is a fast quick start to my builder letter (reply)

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Hello rhondaleokitty@...,

In reference to your comment:

è any comments or what I should add or delete. I'm

è tired................

*****Rhonda....sorry if I missed it, but are you getting an attorney? If you

are you need to run this letter past him/her, as you don't want to give the

builder a heads-up on what is coming. If you don't have an attorney is that

out of the question? You speak of neighbors having the same problems. Have you

spoken to any that would be willing to bring a class-action against this

builder? I'm so sorry that you are going through what you are going through but

I

don't want to see you miss an opportunity to really kick this builder to the

curb. Have you given any thought to TV/Newspaper to get some media coverage?

Sorry if these questions have been answered before.

Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the angels,

holding hands in the " chain of love " .....

Angel Huggzz

or Angel

[Guest guest]

I can see I need to do a spell check when I finalized my letter.

Going to change some and probably write it many times before I'm

satisfied.

I'm past the 6 year limitation of suing and the mold winning

attorney I talked to took info from me but didn't return my calls.

I called twice asking if he would return my calls to let me know if

I could get around the limitations. Voicemail, I think he just

deletes my calls b/c he can't make money off me. Since the builder

didn't correctly fix the no waterproofing in beginning and when came

back still didn't in the 1st year warranty I thought maybe I could

have a case. Also, my neuro symptoms started wihin the first year

and a half before the 6 year limitations were up. I went to two doc

then and there should be records of my symptoms. I wanted the

attoney to tell me if I had a case before ripping all the evidence

out of my house. Even if it couldn't be proved my neuro problems

etc is from the fungus I wanted him to have to pay for all I had to

do to correct the water drainage etc.

Not going to be able to vaccum today b/c I'm so tired and yesterday

really did something to me cleaning out a bunch of clutter. I still

can't see how I'm going to wash all my clothes b/c I have to hang

some to dry and then put them somewhere so I don't put them back in

places where clothes are that haven't been washed. Seems if I hang

to dry spores in air will get back on them. It's just too much for

me to figure out. It will take forever to clean all my clothes

ETC. I really wish I had the energy to vac so I could be getting up

more spores.

So, since I can't sue then I figured I send a letter certified so he

will know what he is doing to his house buyers lives and health. I

had thought about calling a tv channel to be here when all the

companies were here but never got to it b/c so busy figuring it all

out which was exhausting. I could write the newspaper now tho but

maybe sending a letter may give the builder opportunity to pay some

$$$ but I'm not counting on it b/c he is past limitations so it

would just be if he could possible have a guilty conscience.

Rhonda

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> Hello rhondaleokitty@h...,

>

> In reference to your comment:

>

> è any comments or what I should add or delete. I'm

> è tired................

>

> *****Rhonda....sorry if I missed it, but are you getting an

attorney? If you

> are you need to run this letter past him/her, as you don't want to

give the

> builder a heads-up on what is coming. If you don't have an

attorney is that

> out of the question? You speak of neighbors having the same

problems. Have you

> spoken to any that would be willing to bring a class-action

against this

> builder? I'm so sorry that you are going through what you are

going through but I

> don't want to see you miss an opportunity to really kick this

builder to the

> curb. Have you given any thought to TV/Newspaper to get some

media coverage?

> Sorry if these questions have been answered before.

>

> Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the

angels,

> holding hands in the " chain of love " .....

>

> Angel Huggzz

> or Angel

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carl,

Can you tell me what I need to know about making a crawl space safe. My

mother's house has a crawl space under two of her rooms. My husband checks it

from time to time and it is never wet or even damp & it has many air vents

around the sides. From the little bit I have read it sounds like it should

have

plastic placed over the dirt. I want to have it done correctly the first

time so I need to know exactly what to have someone do. I don't want to call

just anyone and end up having a botched job.

I would appreciate your advice and suggestions.

Thanks very much,

Sue

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

First, give yourself TONS of credit for cutting through a lot of BS

to find people to successfully get your crawlspace and HVAC cleaned

up. That is where the mold spores and fragments and other " stuff " was

coming from. Now that the source is gone, you have started removing

the accumulation of what is left over from your living space and

contents.

> Not going to be able to vaccum today b/c I'm so tired and yesterday

> really did something to me cleaning out a bunch of clutter.

Cleaning and removing contents will re-expose you, which only adds to

the burden, especially since no one else will help. But once done,

even if a little at a time, your body will be better able to heal

because the " plume " as calls it, will be gone.

> I still

> can't see how I'm going to wash all my clothes b/c I have to hang some

> to dry and then put them somewhere so I don't put them back in places

> where clothes are that haven't been washed.

That's right. But even if you do, they won't have a much

contamination as before. You " should " be okay with this or you

wouldn't be able to stay in your house.

> Seems if I hang to dry

> spores in air will get back on them.

First, it won't be as bad as before. Second, even in a clean, non-

reative house you will get spores on everything. Mold spores and

fragments are everywhere. It is the mold growth and the products

generated by the growth that is the focus.

> It's just too much for me to

> figure out. It will take forever to clean all my clothes ETC. I

> really wish I had the energy to vac so I could be getting up more

> spores.

But you have figured it out! And you are 90% of the way there. Take

your time and do what you can. No sense replacing the old burden with

a new stress. Give yourself some credit and begin to enjoy what you

have accomplished so far. Perfection may take a while longer.

You have also set a great example for others in this group and I

admire your courage in being so open and visible. It is not often we

are allowed to observe enough detail to learn from the experience of

another. Thank you.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

[Guest guest]

My experience taught me that even if the crawl space is dry you

still can have a problem and that outside vents need to be shut all

the time and new building codes will have new houses with no vents

to let in humidity and hot air. Also, the hvac could have problems

as my hvac guy said my drainage hose was not draining properly

causing backflow of water instead of it draining. So I had a damp

crawlspace and condensation on hvac and a faulty drainage system in

hvac. I saw glimpses of my hvac and it was nasty and now I see why I

was poisoned.

Thanks Carl for all your help and I hope I can help anyone else that

has the problems I had. I put on my detective cap and tried my

best. I think I did the correct solution thanks to Carl and others

adivce about removing the mold and I would not feel comfortable at

all if I had just sprayed anabec on wood and insulation etc. I had

mold on outside of ducts that were being removed and I can just

imagine what was inside due to the wet hvac and the ducts weren't

sealed either.

I'd have your mother's hvac serviced and cleaned and checked if it

is draining properly. I never had my serviced yearly but will now

and will be there right with the guy watching and learning all about

hvac's and making sure he doesn't destroy my new cleanspace that

Regional Waterproofing put in. I still can't get over the ac guy

messing up my new cleanspace like he did and hope Reg. Wat. fixed

his tears.

Thanks again Carl for your encouragement b/c I do not get praise

here at home. My dad laughs at me which doesn't help matters. I

bet his hvac is eat up with mold and that is why he wants me to

think normal. Maybe that is why my mom has numbness and also said

she gets weird sores on her head and will keep a cough a lot and is

her memory loss from age or toxins. No telling and they have metal

ductwork which my dad said has mold. Heck, my poisoning may have

started there then State Government building I worked in 24 years

and then my lovely mold home for 12+ years. And I'm still alive,

imagine that. Well, phase 2 is next which will be clearing out

stuff I don't need and wiping down items and washing, washing and

more washing. At least I know what is blowing in thru hvac is

clean now and I'm also going to put a good lock on my crawlspace

door to make sure nobody gets to my expensive makeover crawlspace

without me being there. My crawlspace is also hooked up to my ADT

security system.

Now, if my hot water heater is 12+ yro, should I have it replaced

for precaution of leaks? I'm def. getting a new toilet b/c I hate

that dumb toilet I have and they make one that has a little more

water in it than the one I have. Tank of mine is eat up too and the

stupid think tried to overflow twice this weekend and I would freak

if water went into a duct again. I know people say turn off water

and I did before but was too late and went in air vent. I think one

problems is the slope I'm on and only dawned on me today b/c the

neighbor that cannot sell her house with mold, also has a electrical

pump for sewage and I think mine must have a hard time flushing out

too but I don't have the electrial pump thank goodness. I just want

that toliet out of here. Tank had furballs living in it and is

black and gross. It will be way cheaper than rest of what I did.

I haven't worked on builder letter or doc letter today. But plan

too this week. I def. gonna change some things in that quick letter

I did. No forgiving here, Nope!

Oh, if your mother's dirt is for sure dry, then a vapor barrier I'd

still put down or if you want to do more extreme, check out www.

Regionalwaterproofing.com and you can see the encapsulation I had

put in. One thing I was told that air moves up and air in

crawlspace makes it's way thru living area and we breath whatever is

there then moves up thru attic and out. Doesn't that sound lovely.

My house use to stay humid even with AC on and now I know why b/c it

is wet and humid underneath it, was, no more. I'm sure Carl will

give you great adive.

Rhonda

>

> Carl,

>

> Can you tell me what I need to know about making a crawl space

safe. My

> mother's house has a crawl space under two of her rooms. My

husband checks it

> from time to time and it is never wet or even damp & it has many

air vents

> around the sides. From the little bit I have read it sounds like

it should have

> plastic placed over the dirt. I want to have it done correctly

the first

> time so I need to know exactly what to have someone do. I don't

want to call

> just anyone and end up having a botched job.

> I would appreciate your advice and suggestions.

>

> Thanks very much,

> Sue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the more I learn, the more I see mold illness undiagnosed all

around us. I was just talking with a lady the other night who I had

not seen for about 6 months- I asked her how her lymes was- she said

she turned out not to have lymes- that it was the mold in her crawl

space making her sick- that after it was cleaned up she got well-

well what do you know , some people figure it out before they are

sick for 14 years like me- if only we can get more Dr to use the VCS

test- people would not have to suffer for years without knowing what

is wrong with them

> >

> > Carl,

> >

> > Can you tell me what I need to know about making a crawl space

> safe. My

> > mother's house has a crawl space under two of her rooms. My

> husband checks it

> > from time to time and it is never wet or even damp & it has

many

> air vents

> > around the sides. From the little bit I have read it sounds

like

> it should have

> > plastic placed over the dirt. I want to have it done correctly

> the first

> > time so I need to know exactly what to have someone do. I don't

> want to call

> > just anyone and end up having a botched job.

> > I would appreciate your advice and suggestions.

> >

> > Thanks very much,

> > Sue

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

" carondeen " wrote:

Yes, the more I learn, the more I see mold illness undiagnosed all

around us.

This is going to be really big, all right.

Only a couple of years ago, people would laugh when I said that mold

was going to be huge.

They aren't laughing anymore.

In the mid 1980's I was in a large room full of perhaps a hundred

people all standing and waiting in a long line when I felt " the

feeling " come over me.

I couldn't stand up any longer but I knew it was going to look awful

strange to just sit down on the floor and that this would draw

attention to myself. But I was swaying and couldn't help it - was

going to pass out. So I just went ahead and sat.

Sure enough, people turned to look, but to my amazement, I had

started a trend. I could hear others saying " Good idea " and " I'm

about to hit the floor too " . Within a few seconds about a dozen

people just joined my little " sit in " - all openly talking about how

strange it was that they were overcome by dizziness.

" I'm not alone " I thought. I wonder why no one is looking into this?

I asked many doctors and even offered to take them there, but

naturally, they all declined.

Carl may remember me telling this story in the IAQ group and saying

that if they wanted to assess the prevalence of susceptible people,

all they have to do is mount a camera in that place - and count the

people who are obviously swaying and having difficulty standing up

to get a rough " guesstimate " .

And of course, this is one of the reasons why I discounted the idea

that this illness just arises from any particular building and that

fixing it will be enough to get you out of this mess.

Get enough " slams " like that and it doesn't matter if your own house

is mold free. It'll catch up with you anyway.

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