Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 , I agree. But to clarify, what you described is the ecology of the fungal environment. All the variables and parameters that occur in the real world of mold and other micro-organisms. And why testing is not definitive. Mold testing is like trying to find an animal. Evidence such as tree damage, dung, partially eaten food, tracks etc may help even if you never visually see one. But first you look for the ecological system where animals can live. Then which specific animals in which specific environments. You won't find camels or elephants in the ocean. And you won't find whales in the desert or jungle. The ecological system is fundamental to all living things, the rest are clues that may or may not accurately imply - as opposed to prove - what is living there. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > For an excellent discussion about the ecology of mold, > > read the interview of Dr Eugene Cole at: > > http://members.aol.com/iecnews/Grimes-Oct03.html > > > > Carl Grimes > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > Carl, remember Kathy Masera's contaminated California Job Journal > offices where opposing fungal species created a two inch " no mans > land " between them? Right in between some of the WORST mold growth was > a two inch area that was totally free of mold and bacteria - thanks to > the intensity of the battle between competitors. We know that > toxigenic molds sense competitors and respond accordingly. The more > intense the competition, the more effort put into potentiating the > toxins. There is simply no way to reasonably project levels of toxin > exposure by counting spores or trying to measure fungal ecology. Toxin > potential varies between individual spores of the same species even > within the same colony. And since Stachy is often part of a mixed > colony - examination of a single mold colony is really looking at an > aggregate of species which confounds attempts to measure pathogenic > potential ever more. > The science shows us that science is not at a point that can make > reliable measurements of toxic exposure without recreating laboratory > conditions which encompass all the known factors in a sealed > environment. > The variables are so great that about the most reliable conclusions > one can make regarding fungal ecology is that " If you feel bad and it > looks bad - it probably is as bad as it feels " . Not very " scientific " , > but geez, take a look at the confounders compared to the total lack of > controls for these variables. - > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Carl or anyone, When looking at the ecology of the fungus kingdom in all its variety, is it accurate to say that most fungus species slow down their growth rate to some degree when the humidity is below 50%? Has anyone seen cases where lowering humidity gave a significant competitive advantage to certain types of mold thus disrupting the established balance significantly? I was just wondering...cause I always assumed that reducing humidity would help things across-the-board. Thanks, Kathy --- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...> wrote: > > , > > I agree. But to clarify, what you described is the ecology of the > fungal environment. All the variables and parameters that occur in > the real world of mold and other micro-organisms. And why testing is > not definitive. > > Mold testing is like trying to find an animal. Evidence such as tree > damage, dung, partially eaten food, tracks etc may help even if you > never visually see one. But first you look for the ecological system > where animals can live. Then which specific animals in which specific > environments. You won't find camels or elephants in the ocean. And > you won't find whales in the desert or jungle. The ecological system > is fundamental to all living things, the rest are clues that may or > may not accurately imply - as opposed to prove - what is living > there. > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > ----- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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