Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Jeff, I was wondering then what does chelate the mycotoxins out? The info I've seen says that it can (EDTA) My environ doc says it can too but maybe they are wrong. Please let me know some alternatives. NDF was recommended as well as activated charcoal. I've taken PC3x which is a cellular detox. My urine was a brownish color in the morning after using it. Do you know about that or could you check it out. Desperate to detox & feel better. Loni Jeff May <jeff@...> wrote: Jay, The simple answer to your question is not at all. There are dozens of known mycotoxins, all very much larger than single, charged metal atoms (ions), and few are charged; in other words, they are neutral. The molecular structure of EDTA is highly specific and it ONLY chelates charged metal atoms (metal ions). The molecule is quite small compared to a mycotoxin molecule, and grabs ions in a claw-like cage. And that's it. All mycotoxins are MUCH larger than water molecules and mycotoxins cannot penetrate anything the way water molecules can. C. May, M.A. organic chemistry May Indoor Air Investigations LLC 1522 Cambridge Street Cambridge, MA 02139 617-354-1055 www.mayindoorair.com www.myhouseiskillingme.com From: jay krishnaa <jkrishnaa@...> Subject: Re: Does EDTA chelation address mold/mycotoxin illness by any chance ? Hi Loni, My original question was whether EDTA removes mycotoxin as well as heavy metals. So, which chelators is your environmental doc thinks that chelate mycotoxins ? Thanks Jay FAIR USE NOTICE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Jeff, Does IV Hydrogen Peroxide therapy neutralize chemicals (mycotoxins) in the body? I was doing that through an NMD that said it did. Would that be worth continuing? Loni Jeff May <jeff@...> wrote: Jay, The simple answer to your question is not at all. There are dozens of known mycotoxins, all very much larger than single, charged metal atoms (ions), and few are charged; in other words, they are neutral. The molecular structure of EDTA is highly specific and it ONLY chelates charged metal atoms (metal ions). The molecule is quite small compared to a mycotoxin molecule, and grabs ions in a claw-like cage. And that's it. All mycotoxins are MUCH larger than water molecules and mycotoxins cannot penetrate anything the way water molecules can. C. May, M.A. organic chemistry May Indoor Air Investigations LLC 1522 Cambridge Street Cambridge, MA 02139 617-354-1055 www.mayindoorair.com www.myhouseiskillingme.com From: jay krishnaa <jkrishnaa@...> Subject: Re: Does EDTA chelation address mold/mycotoxin illness by any chance ? Hi Loni, My original question was whether EDTA removes mycotoxin as well as heavy metals. So, which chelators is your environmental doc thinks that chelate mycotoxins ? Thanks Jay FAIR USE NOTICE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Loni, I can't answer the technicalities better than Jeff - not even close! - but would like to suggest we have a terminology and semantics issue here. Chelation is a very specific way of removing specific substances (e.g. metals) from the body. But we tend, over time, to call all removal methods " chelation " or " detox " or something. Just because chelation doesn't remove (impossible to remove) mycotoxins doesn't mean they can't be removed by other means and it doesn't mean chelation doesn't work - for what it can remove. It's no different than the debates about allergies. Allergy has become a generic term for even chemical reactions and many mold reactions. But if it doesn't meet the technical definition of an IgE mediated mast response it isn't an allergy. That is not the same as saying it didn't or couldn't make you sick. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Jeff, I was wondering then what does chelate the mycotoxins out? The > info I've seen says that it can (EDTA) My environ doc says it can too > but maybe they are wrong. Please let me know some alternatives. NDF > was recommended as well as activated charcoal. I've taken PC3x which > is a cellular detox. My urine was a brownish color in the morning > after using it. Do you know about that or could you check it out. > > Desperate to detox & feel better. Loni > > > Jeff May <jeff@...> wrote: > Jay, > > The simple answer to your question is not at all. > > There are dozens of known mycotoxins, all very much larger than > single, charged metal atoms (ions), and few are charged; in other > words, they are neutral. > > The molecular structure of EDTA is highly specific and it ONLY > chelates charged metal atoms (metal ions). The molecule is quite small > compared to a mycotoxin molecule, and grabs ions in a claw-like cage. > > And that's it. > > All mycotoxins are MUCH larger than water molecules and mycotoxins > cannot penetrate anything the way water molecules can. > > C. May, M.A. organic chemistry > May Indoor Air Investigations LLC > 1522 Cambridge Street > Cambridge, MA 02139 > 617-354-1055 > www.mayindoorair.com > www.myhouseiskillingme.com > > > > > From: jay krishnaa <jkrishnaa@...> > Subject: Re: Does EDTA chelation address mold/mycotoxin illness by any > chance ? > > Hi Loni, > > My original question was whether EDTA removes mycotoxin as well as > heavy metals. So, which chelators is your environmental doc thinks > that chelate mycotoxins ? > > Thanks > Jay > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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