Re: IV EDTA

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In a message dated 14/03/2006 13:26:10 GMT Standard Time, mark.grabiec@... writes:

Did Dr Heard say he was thinking about introducing this or did I dream that?

>>NO he said he wouldn;t be doing it. They do slow drips at BS for heart conditions only. Dr H wouldn;t get medical insurance cover for it. Don;t knw anybody else doign it in the UK. Most of the kids are lead heads, DMSA and EDTA works just fine orally or TD

Mandi x

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In a message dated 14/03/2006 22:27:41 GMT Standard Time, amsife@... writes:

Took my lead head to see Dr Heard last week and he was really pushing EDTA suppositories, no mention of the IV route - not that I'd be comfortable with IV, but that's just me...

>>>Is this Detoxamin? They say 7 of those = 1 IV

HOw did you get on with Dr H ?

Mandi x

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Hi Steph,

Took my lead head to see Dr Heard last week and he was really

pushing EDTA suppositories, no mention of the IV route - not that

I'd be comfortable with IV, but that's just me...

Anne-Marie

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> Hello all

>

> Did Dr Heard say he was thinking about introducing this or did I

dream

> that? Tom is still such a lead head and in our consult with Dr

Usman

> she thought that it would be a sensible approach. But not if we

have

> to keep trolling back and forth to the US.

>

> Or does anyone else reputable in the UK do them?

>

> Steph x

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Hi all: Just wrapping up 2 weeks of IVs at Dr. Bradstreet's. Our first time doing CALCIUM EDTA IV. I have to say I was scared to death but the results have been stunning during these 14 days. Each IV was administered with NAC, 1000mg of Vit C and Glutathione. I brought my nebulized Glutathione for an added boost on our off days. The language and cognition gains have been fabulous. He lied for the first time tonight then confessed. I am probably the only Mom (oops Mum!) who is rejoicing over her kid lying! Our liver tests came back just fine...even after 2 years of chelation. Proving to me as this poison comes out he is healthier. I can say I am really getting comfortable with the IVs now. Dr. B is pushing the suppositories as well. I am not comfortable with them at all but hubby wants to try so I guess we will bring some home. Hope all is well abroad. Love your token

yank!Mum231ASD@... wrote: In a message dated 14/03/2006 22:27:41 GMT Standard Time, amsife@... writes: Took my lead head to see Dr Heard last week and he was really pushing EDTA suppositories, no mention of the IV route - not that I'd be comfortable with IV, but that's just me... >>>Is this Detoxamin? They say 7 of those = 1 IV HOw did you get on with Dr H ? Mandi x DISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. Beauvais Mom to , who had 276X the EPA allowable amount of Mercury in his infant vaccines. ASD_solutions @ groups Helping a generation of Mercury damaged children recover, one step at a time. There is Hope. www.generationrescue.org

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We did IV EDTA with Dr Usman on Monday - no problems to report yet.

Tom is so full of lead that she was very very clear that shifting

that had to be a priority and that as he tolerated chelation well he

should be fine. We'll get the toxic metals results back from the IV

push in about two weeks time but I imagine they'll be quite

dramatic. We're going to do suppositories in the UK - glad to hear

that Dr H does them. How much do they cost in the UK? trying to work

out if they're cheaper to order from Coastal?

Dr U said she's treated 400 patients using IV EDTA, that she does

not even have sodium EDTA on the premises so no chance of a mix up

and that the only problems she's had have been hyperactivity (Tom

was the opposite, he's been too relaxed if anything)

I'll post his results when we get them - Dr U thinks that using DMPS

whilst he's so full of lead is just scratching the surface. I know

lots of kids here are very leady and reading 's experience with

Dr Bradstreet - it does make convincing reading doesn't it?

Steph

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> Hi Mandi and Everyone

>

> Dr Usman is thinking to do iv EDTA with my son I was bit reluctant

as I

> thought I would be the first one in UK but I think and

Abigail

> are already doing this my question is, has anyone heard any bad

effect

> on it?

>

> I understand Terri (Welcome to the group!)and many others are

doing oral

>

> Are they both equally effective also I think there is third one

> suppositories, how everyone is choosing which one is good?

>

> Seema

>

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We did IV EDTA with Dr Usman on Monday - no problems to report yet.

Tom is so full of lead that she was very very clear that shifting

that had to be a priority and that as he tolerated chelation well he

should be fine. We'll get the toxic metals results back from the IV

push in about two weeks time but I imagine they'll be quite

dramatic. We're going to do suppositories in the UK - glad to hear

that Dr H does them. How much do they cost in the UK? trying to work

out if they're cheaper to order from Coastal?

Dr U said she's treated 400 patients using IV EDTA, that she does

not even have sodium EDTA on the premises so no chance of a mix up

and that the only problems she's had have been hyperactivity (Tom

was the opposite, he's been too relaxed if anything)

I'll post his results when we get them - Dr U thinks that using DMPS

whilst he's so full of lead is just scratching the surface. I know

lots of kids here are very leady and reading 's experience with

Dr Bradstreet - it does make convincing reading doesn't it?

Steph

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> Hi Mandi and Everyone

>

> Dr Usman is thinking to do iv EDTA with my son I was bit reluctant

as I

> thought I would be the first one in UK but I think and

Abigail

> are already doing this my question is, has anyone heard any bad

effect

> on it?

>

> I understand Terri (Welcome to the group!)and many others are

doing oral

>

> Are they both equally effective also I think there is third one

> suppositories, how everyone is choosing which one is good?

>

> Seema

>

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Thanks Steph for your post..

Good to hear Tom did OK with the IV EDTA. WE will be doing with May 1st and I (like you too, no doubt) was pretty worried so hope it gets good results for you and us too when the time comes.

Caroline

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The handful of Moms I know using EDTA IVs say it is easier than DMPS IVs Josh had 2 two and was mildly hyper otherwise good. They space them when done together so one doesn't chelate the other. Waiting for the lead to be completely gone to start the DMPS is a little like waiting for the yeast to be totally gone to chelate. I only know of one Mom whose child regressed but it is hard to evaluate her episode because she is not fully implementing diet. Lots of infractions. Her child is also not a responder to much of anything. The other Moms I are doing fine with it. Josh tolerates it well. Usman in her presentations talks about how lead makes the toxic effects of Mercury worse it is scarey. Sirr <mark.grabiec@...> wrote: We did IV

EDTA with Dr Usman on Monday - no problems to report yet. Tom is so full of lead that she was very very clear that shifting that had to be a priority and that as he tolerated chelation well he should be fine. We'll get the toxic metals results back from the IV push in about two weeks time but I imagine they'll be quite dramatic. We're going to do suppositories in the UK - glad to hear that Dr H does them. How much do they cost in the UK? trying to work out if they're cheaper to order from Coastal?Dr U said she's treated 400 patients using IV EDTA, that she does not even have sodium EDTA on the premises so no chance of a mix up and that the only problems she's had have been hyperactivity (Tom was the opposite, he's been too relaxed if anything)I'll post his results when we get them - Dr U thinks that using DMPS whilst he's so full of lead is just scratching the surface. I know lots of kids here are very leady

and reading 's experience with Dr Bradstreet - it does make convincing reading doesn't it?Steph >> Hi Mandi and Everyone> > Dr Usman is thinking to do iv EDTA with my son I was bit reluctant as I > thought I would be the first one in UK but I think and Abigail > are already doing this my question is, has anyone heard any bad effect > on it?> > I understand Terri (Welcome to the group!)and many others are doing oral> > Are they both equally effective also I think there is third one > suppositories, how everyone is choosing which one is good?> > Seema> Beauvais Mom to , who had 276X the EPA allowable amount of Mercury in his infant vaccines. ASD_solutions @ groups Helping a generation of Mercury damaged children recover, one step at a time. There is Hope. www.generationrescue.org

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In a message dated 16/03/2006 16:34:19 GMT Standard Time, chris.cytera@... writes:

So Dr Usman says toxicity of mercury is exacerbated by lead? Can you point me to any presentations which might be available to download which highlight this so our resident scientist can have a look - and pass to Dr H?

>>>Its a long term well known fact asd far as I know - Mercury toxicity is bad, Mercury and Lead is worse than either individually put toegther. I don't think that makes sense. The synergistic effect is much worse. I know of no papers but there must be some. I trust Andy Cutler PhD and he says this is so Dr Heard knows this!

Mandi in DorsetMum to Sam 47XYY, Autism, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Possible Seizure DIsorder & Severe Cuteness:)

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> >

> > Hi Mandi and Everyone

> >

> > Dr Usman is thinking to do iv EDTA with my son I was bit

reluctant

> as I

> > thought I would be the first one in UK but I think and

> Abigail

> > are already doing this my question is, has anyone heard any bad

> effect

> > on it?

> >

> > I understand Terri (Welcome to the group!)and many others are

> doing oral

> >

> > Are they both equally effective also I think there is third one

> > suppositories, how everyone is choosing which one is good?

> >

> > Seema

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> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

qualified practitioner.

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yippee manders. keep um coming.

luv caroline

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ps your school bus must just have arrived too...

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>Hi Mandi

thanks for this. As you say, Dr H will know this.I guess that in a

consultation you don't always have time to nail down 100% the right

questions. I guess that he and also think that the DMPS is

working on the mercury and lead although not fast enough or

agressively enough for my liking!In that respect we mums are all the

same! Why didn't we start chelating earlier, etc., etc., I guess it's

just up to us to run ideas by Dr H and this is one we'll be flagging

up. As Steph says, I think we also forget the fact you can be

attacking two substances, i.e. lead and mercury simultaneously (with

different chelators)

BTW congrats on the development, keep up the choir practice!!

Rhona

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> In a message dated 16/03/2006 16:34:19 GMT Standard Time,

chris.cytera@

> talk21.com writes:

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> So Dr Usman says toxicity of mercury is exacerbated by lead? Can

you

> point me to any presentations which might be available to download

> which highlight this so our resident scientist can have a look -

and

> pass to Dr H?

>

>

>

> >>>Its a long term well known fact asd far as I know - Mercury

toxicity is

> bad, Mercury and Lead is worse than either individually put

toegther. I don't

> think that makes sense. The synergistic effect is much worse. I

know of no

> papers but there must be some. I trust Andy Cutler PhD and he says

this is so

> Dr Heard knows this!

>

> Mandi in Dorset

> Mum to Sam 47XYY, Autism, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Possible Seizure

DIsorder &

> Severe Cuteness:)

>