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That's true. and maybe I'll be one them some day! never know.

Mandi, how long does it take to get lead out? I know you have a lead

problem. Also, how is the formerly broken boy? Is he knitted back

together? My daughter had so many problems because she fell off a bouncy

castle and broke her elbow. Bad place for a fracture.

Marti

PS She's 100% now, although may not ever win Wimbledon.

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Marti,

So from what you have read, how would you get out lead?

regards,

Re: Ammonia

> You're brave. They'll go nuts. Of course, the problem is that people

who

> actually think that DMSA and ALA are not great for our kids (like me) got

off

> the A-M list because once you do the research you cannot carry on there.

> Even though there have been some helpful posts.

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> ALA does have some good uses, however. I'm not saying it doesn't, and

> possibly the ALA in Brainchild for eg. is not going to harm anyone, only

> might help. Just don't know. There are risks, that's what I'm saying.

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> When i went to the sources for what Dr. Kane is saying here, and what

Andy

> and all them say on A-M, it all became much clearer that DMSA/ALA

protocol,

> over long time with our kids is questionable.

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> Of course, I haven't spent my life studying it. I just looked at what

> people on A-M said, what the people on other lists said, what the medical

> profession says, what the researchers say, then I made a decision. Then

> moved on.

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> So when you read the A-M board, you will not be meeting people who moved

on,

> so to speak.

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> But go for it, by all means! I could be very wrong and so could lots of

> other people!

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> Marti

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> Yes, I understand that it does, but I don't know offhand why.

> marti

Isn't the ammonia a waste that the yeast gives off? I'm not sure,

but seem to remember something along those lines in the gut healing

book, or possibly the catalogue of supplements, both from Kirkman

labs. I'm away from home right now, so I can't check my copies of

the books.

My son is taking alpha ketoglutaric acid to counteract the ammonia

given off by the yeast. His OAT test showed that he needed the alpha

Ketoglutaric acid. He had very high clostridia, as well as some

yeast.

I think that the above information about the ammonia is correct, but

will try to double check on it after I get back home, just in case....

Janiece

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> Does yeast cause high ammonia levels?

I think it is the die off, and more bacteria die off than yeast die

off.

Dana

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I think baking soda is overrated, but others love it. why not use lactulose

and/or oral butyrate. They are brilliant at reducing ammonia levels. The

lactulose does it very fast. The butyrate has another positive impact on

the liver. It is hard to get down, of course, and it smells. Over at

autism-challenge they've been talking about ammonia a lot. You might want

to check it out.

marti

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Marti, And also we should mention that lactulose can have some side

effects,

it can cause bloating, gas, and stomach upset. It is good about reducing

the ammonia, I am just concerned about the child having problems with

it, now butyrate, I haven't heard of any side effects from butyrate.

I give the lactulose to my son, but I give it with milk, milk that

is fresh and that has never been heated. Milk that has never been

pasteurized. Best, Carlton

Martharolfe@... wrote:

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> I think baking soda is overrated, but others love it. why not use lactulose

> and/or oral butyrate. They are brilliant at reducing ammonia levels. The

> lactulose does it very fast. The butyrate has another positive impact on

> the liver. It is hard to get down, of course, and it smells. Over at

> autism-challenge they've been talking about ammonia a lot. You might want

> to check it out.

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> marti

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Liver problems are the typical cause of elevated ammonia, which does

lead to encephalopathy.

As mentioned earlier, alpha keto glutarate helps.

Also restricting protein intake helps.

Also any and all liver support nutrients help.

Also in case there is an intestinal cause, a large amount of

probioitics help.

There are also some things with electrolyte and with agents to acidify

the bowel so as to retain the ammonia that are discussed in standard

books on gastroenterology and liver disease. You can find one online

by signing up for a free 10 day trial of www.mdconsult.com .

Andy . . . . . . ..

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> > My had blood drawn recently that showed high levels of

> > ammonia. What can I do to bring the levels down? He is a spastic

> > quad with a seizure disorder and microcephaly. He is on Topamax

for

> > the seizures. What may have caused these high levels?

> > Thanks,

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> > Will and Ben's Mom

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There are a few reasons why the levels could be high--

gut dysbiosis is one of them...

alpha -ketoglutaric acid is supposed to bring the levels down.

[ ] Ammonia

> Hello,

> My had blood drawn recently that showed high levels of

> ammonia. What can I do to bring the levels down? He is a spastic

> quad with a seizure disorder and microcephaly. He is on Topamax for

> the seizures. What may have caused these high levels?

> Thanks,

>

> Will and Ben's Mom

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centurydemos <centurydemos@...> wrote: I forgot to mention, Dr. Croft

said, in addition to the 50/50 ammonia

clean-up of my home anf everything in it..down to my

shoes...everything! he also said I could add 2 cups to my bath water

and soak in it. He said thst is good for me..it may remove the dyes

from your hair..other than that...he said it will help.

Good luck with your getting your health back!! I was hoping some of the more

knowledgeable people would comment on the ammonia cleanup plus taking a bath in

it? I have taken a bath using hydrogen-peroxide so things which are new to me

could great?

I have heard that ammonia can clean the mold and I am wondering about

netralizing whichever toxin is on the mold?

Bob

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Amonia soaks had no effect on my being reactive to my clothes

I forgot to mention,

Dr. Croft said, in addition to the 50/50 ammonia

> clean-up of my home anf everything in it..down to my

> shoes...everything! he also said I could add 2 cups to my bath

water

> and soak in it. He said thst is good for me..it may remove the

dyes

> from your hair..other than that...he said it will help.

>

> Good luck with your getting your health back!! I was hoping some

of the more knowledgeable people would comment on the ammonia

cleanup plus taking a bath in it? I have taken a bath using hydrogen-

peroxide so things which are new to me could great?

>

> I have heard that ammonia can clean the mold and I am wondering

about netralizing whichever toxin is on the mold?

>

> Bob

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos

> Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events,

holidays, whatever.

>

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Please people.. DON'T DO THIS..

It sounds very bad for you... I am not a doctor, but I do know that

ammonia can be toxic..

For example, this could blind you.. People absorb quite a bit of

whatever they come into contact with through their skin.. Especially

through mucous membranes.. osmality..

DON'T IMMERSE YOURSELF IN ANY THINGS YOU WOULDN'T LET GET INTO YOUR EYES..

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....or your stomach is my motto.

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@g...>

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People absorb quite a bit of

> whatever they come into contact with through their skin.. Especially

> through mucous membranes.. osmality..

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> DON'T IMMERSE YOURSELF IN ANY THINGS YOU WOULDN'T LET GET INTO YOUR

EYES..

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How did you know you had high ammonia, was it from a test? I just wonder if

that is causing my boys sour stomach. Deb

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My doc ordered a routine CBC and added " ammonia " to the script.

I don't know if there are other ways of testing other than the blood.

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Ammonia is caused by bacteria and parasites and is often much worse during die

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It can also be due to protein malabsorbtion. AKG worked wonders here.

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This is very interesting. How do you test for ammonia? What can you do about it?

Is it related to ph balance?

 

My son is 18, but has a b.o. that smells like ammonia, especially if he doesn't

have a good bm every day. He can take a bath and the smell is back within 2

hours. The doctor says there is nothing we can do except get a stronger

deodorant and antiperspirant. He eats chicken nuggets and things made with egg.

Refuses any other kind of meat.

 

Thanks for any info.

 

Drissia

From: wiersmak <wiersmak@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: ammonia

Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 9:27 AM

 

It can also be due to protein malabsorbtion. AKG worked wonders here.

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what is AKG??

From: wiersmak <wiersmak@...>

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Alpha Ketoglutaric Acid.

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