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Hi Ursula~~

Dale told me to check and see if the brand Lacey gets comes in both a 5% and

10% solution. I asked our doctor and he said it comes only in a 5% solution.

Do you know what brand Macey gets? They gave me the actual flap from the box

they used so that I'd have the lot number. On that it says Immune Globulin

Intravenous (Human) Gammar P.I.V., but the hospital pharmacy sticker says

GammaGard. Meanwhile, I think I'll do some searching to see if I can find any

info on the net. Thank you for your help~~

Belinda

Lacey's mom, (15, CdLS, IgG deficiency)

Pittsburg, CA

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Sometimes anxiety can make a person breath faster and take more shallow

breaths. If it is something like that, the solution may be as simple as

watching her breathe to make sure that she is taking even, deep, slow breaths.

Also, you mentioned the ears in another post, had chronic ear

infections prior to starting IVIG at 17 months, if he were not on

antibiotics, he had an ear infection, but after the first few treatments

they stopped. I don't think he's had more than 1 ear infection in the last

3 1/2 years or so. We still have an occational go round with the sinuses

(which, thankfully, have cleared up with just one week of Biaxin). He had

his treatment today and the immuno's nurse checked him out and said he

looked great.

I just wanted to give you some encouragement about the ear infections by

letting you know that 's stopped dead in their tracks once he was on

IVIG. Hopefully your daughter will have the same response. It may take 6

months or more to see a difference in the frequency of illnesses, but I

suspect that you will see a difference.

Hope there is a simple answer to the " weird feeling " and headache.

God bless,

Wenoka

At 01:02 PM 02/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>

>To all,

>

>I have a question. Last night when we were in ER and was receiving

her IV fluids, she complained that she was getting that " weird feeling when

I take a breath, and a headache " .. I was baffled because I didn't think

straight fluids could make you feel this way. Has anyone ever had

reactions like this to straight IV fluids.

>I didn't say this to , because I did not want to diminish what she

was feeling, however I thought it may be an emotional reaction to

remembering how the IVIG felt. I asked the nurse and she said it wouldn't

hurt to slow it down, but didn't know if the IV could cause that or not.

2nd question, Do most of your children get treated with antibiotic even if

they confirm the infection is not bacterial? s white blood cell

count was 6000, which they told me was very good , even for a healthy

adult. Are PID kids White blood Cell counts usually not within normal

range? I asked the doctor the significance of the White Blood Cell level,

and he explained that if it is viral , you will not see an elevated WBC.

They did not treat her with antibiotics as a follow up measure. I was a

bit surprised.

>Just trying to digest this as I learn and sort it all out. Any help would

be appreciated.

>

>Thanks again

>Sharon

>s 11 igg def

>

>

>

>

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Sharon, so sorry to hear was in Er. is there quite often

for IV Fluids. He gets dehydrated real fast with viral infections...

its the fever that wipes him out. Once in a while he says he gets

a " weird " feeling when having fluids. He usually has a headache

from being dehydrated so I don't know anything about that. When we

tell the nurse that he feels " weird " - (he can't descride the

feeling - it just feels werid - different than normal is what he

says) she slows the drip down and that usually helps. I asked the

doctor what might cause this weird feeling and he says it proably has

something to do with being dehydrated. To much to fast kinda thing.

Hope this helps. How is doing Now?

Karin, mother of IgA Def.

-- In , " Sharon Grubb " <SGrubb@s...> wrote:

>

> To all,

>

> I have a question. Last night when we were in ER and was

receiving her IV fluids, she complained that she was getting

that " weird feeling when I take a breath, and a headache " .. I was

baffled because I didn't think straight fluids could make you feel

this way. Has anyone ever had reactions like this to straight IV

fluids.

> I didn't say this to , because I did not want to diminish

what she was feeling, however I thought it may be an emotional

reaction to remembering how the IVIG felt. I asked the nurse and she

said it wouldn't hurt to slow it down, but didn't know if the IV

could cause that or not. 2nd question, Do most of your children get

treated with antibiotic even if they confirm the infection is not

bacterial? s white blood cell count was 6000, which they

told me was very good , even for a healthy adult. Are PID kids White

blood Cell counts usually not within normal range? I asked the

doctor the significance of the White Blood Cell level, and he

explained that if it is viral , you will not see an elevated WBC.

They did not treat her with antibiotics as a follow up measure. I

was a bit surprised.

> Just trying to digest this as I learn and sort it all out. Any

help would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks again

> Sharon

> s 11 igg def

>

>

>

>

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Sharon, so sorry to hear was in Er. is there quite often

for IV Fluids. He gets dehydrated real fast with viral infections...

its the fever that wipes him out. Once in a while he says he gets

a " weird " feeling when having fluids. He usually has a headache

from being dehydrated so I don't know anything about that. When we

tell the nurse that he feels " weird " - (he can't descride the

feeling - it just feels werid - different than normal is what he

says) she slows the drip down and that usually helps. I asked the

doctor what might cause this weird feeling and he says it proably has

something to do with being dehydrated. To much to fast kinda thing.

Hope this helps. How is doing Now?

Karin, mother of IgA Def.

-- In , " Sharon Grubb " <SGrubb@s...> wrote:

>

> To all,

>

> I have a question. Last night when we were in ER and was

receiving her IV fluids, she complained that she was getting

that " weird feeling when I take a breath, and a headache " .. I was

baffled because I didn't think straight fluids could make you feel

this way. Has anyone ever had reactions like this to straight IV

fluids.

> I didn't say this to , because I did not want to diminish

what she was feeling, however I thought it may be an emotional

reaction to remembering how the IVIG felt. I asked the nurse and she

said it wouldn't hurt to slow it down, but didn't know if the IV

could cause that or not. 2nd question, Do most of your children get

treated with antibiotic even if they confirm the infection is not

bacterial? s white blood cell count was 6000, which they

told me was very good , even for a healthy adult. Are PID kids White

blood Cell counts usually not within normal range? I asked the

doctor the significance of the White Blood Cell level, and he

explained that if it is viral , you will not see an elevated WBC.

They did not treat her with antibiotics as a follow up measure. I

was a bit surprised.

> Just trying to digest this as I learn and sort it all out. Any

help would be appreciated.

>

> Thanks again

> Sharon

> s 11 igg def

>

>

>

>

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Hope this helps. How is doing Now?

Karin, mother of IgA Def.

Hi Karin,

Thanks for the information, that makes sense. My sister told me the same thing

about the headache and dehydration. is doing so well after her

infusion on Friday. Today for the first time EVER she woke at 7:30am (10 hrs of

sleep) and I did not have to coax, threaten, bribe or use any other tricks that

I have learned over the years to get her up. She was so proud of herself, and I

was so proud of her!!! SHe said " can you believe how well I woke up today? " I

told her how thrilled I was that she was feeling better, and really emphasized

that I felt it was the infusions helping her. . We are taking these little

things as huge triumphs ,because for her they really are. I honestly cannot

remember when (if ever) she has woke up easily , without complaining that she

did not feel well. I feel very blessed today. I feel almost guilty sharing

this joy, because there are so many kids suffering right now. I am praying for

all of " us " !!!!

God bless

Sharon

Mom to 11 Igg def 20 wife to Ken of 23 years

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Please don't feel guilty!!!! And we all know that every little thing

is a big trimuph for these kids!!! Tell that and I are

proud of her too. I hope she continues to do well.

karin

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> : Re: question

>

>

> Hope this helps. How is doing Now?

>

> Karin, mother of IgA Def.

>

>

> Hi Karin,

> Thanks for the information, that makes sense. My sister told me

the same thing about the headache and dehydration. is doing

so well after her infusion on Friday. Today for the first time EVER

she woke at 7:30am (10 hrs of sleep) and I did not have to coax,

threaten, bribe or use any other tricks that I have learned over the

years to get her up. She was so proud of herself, and I was so proud

of her!!! SHe said " can you believe how well I woke up today? " I

told her how thrilled I was that she was feeling better, and really

emphasized that I felt it was the infusions helping her. . We are

taking these little things as huge triumphs ,because for her they

really are. I honestly cannot remember when (if ever) she has woke

up easily , without complaining that she did not feel well. I feel

very blessed today. I feel almost guilty sharing this joy, because

there are so many kids suffering right now. I am praying for all

of " us " !!!!

>

> God bless

> Sharon

> Mom to 11 Igg def 20 wife to Ken of 23 years

>

> ]

>

> This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed

with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated

here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be

taken as professional advice.

>

> To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT)

> To search group archives go to:

/messages

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from Dale, Mom to Katy,

Sharon, DON'T feel guilty. We all need to be reminded of the little joys and

blessings or all this yucky stuff gets too heavy!

We're enjoying the beautiful picture of a kid responding properly to IVIG!!!!

In His service,

Dale

Sharon Grubb wrote:

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I feel almost guilty sharing this joy, because there are so many kids

suffering right now.

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thank you!!!! It truly is a blessing from God. I am just amazed at the

difference in my daughter. Today was a snow day in Toledo, schools were closed.

A typical day in the past would be in bed ALL day, watching t.v. and

dozing between naps, and me trying to get her to eat something, anything. Today

she popped out of bed, and has an appetite like I have never seen!! I cannot

believe this. She had a huge breakfast, and two hours later was asking for

lunch. I asked her what she would like for lunch ... I expected the normal I

am not hungry routine, followed by my nagging that she really needs to eat

something ( I sound like a broken record). Well today she responded with , I

would like chicken, mashed potatoes and corn. My jaw dropped down to the floor.

I flew to the kitchen and whipped it up thinking this is too good to be true. I

called her for lunch and she ate two huge plates. I was ecstatic. I called her

dad on his cell phone to tell him about this new " appetite " , he thought we had

hit the lottery. I know this sounds silly, but this was so exciting. It gets

better........ For dinner she was starved. She ate like there is no tomorrow.

Please forgive me if I sound giddy, however this is so wonderful. I thank God

for every bit of it.

Thank you so much for letting me ramble on.

God Bless

Sharon

Mom to 11 Igg def 20 and wife to Ken of 23 years

blessings or all this yucky stuff gets too heavy!

We're enjoying the beautiful picture of a kid responding properly to IVIG!!!!

In His service,

Dale

Sharon Grubb wrote:

>

I feel almost guilty sharing this joy, because there are so many kids

suffering right now.

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Sharon - big grin from ear to ear reading this. I was also going to comment

that you might think of sending the nurse a

little note of thank you for the extra effort this infusion and mention in

passing to her nurse manager or office

manager that her efforts are much appreciated. Make sure those in the know,

know.

Ursula Holleman

mom to (10 yrs old) and Macey (7 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease,

GERD, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic

inertia)

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Thanks Ursula for the suggestion. Her nurse contacts me just about every other

day to check on things. I express my deepest gratitude every time we talk,

however I do plan on sending a letter to make sure as you put it " those in the

know, know " She really deserves the recognition. Now that is doing

better I am sure our contact will taper off. We are very blessed to have this

wonderful person in our lives. What a difference one person can make.

Thanks to all for your well wishes and wonderful suggestions

Sharon

Mom to

: : Re: Re: question

I was also going to comment that you might think of sending the nurse a

little note of thank you for the extra effort this infusion and mention in

passing to her nurse manager or office

manager that her efforts are much appreciated. Make sure those in the know,

know.

Immune Deficiency Foundation's 2003 National Conference

http://www.execinc.com/idf/

Immune Deficiency Foundation - Peer Contact for GA

http://www.primaryimmune.org

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Sandi:

Don't know for sure but I don't think IgA changes much or any in response to

infection. Though the IgG DOES rise in response to infection, Dr. Ochs in

Seattle said that ANY rise in IgG is good, so not to worry about being mildly

sick for blood draws. Theory being you won't get a " false " # because if your

IgG is going up, that means it's working and that's a good sign, the results

have merit.

(mom to Kate, born 9/19/02, dairy intolerant; and , age 4, dairy

intolerant -- currently has polysaccharide antibody def, previously had

transient IgG, IgA, t-cell & other defs)

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Hi Jen # 2,

Sorry you're feeling so bad. It sounds like possibly the Stills is

causing you a case of pleurisy. You should probably let your rheumy know how

you're feeling. He may want to adjust some of your meds. Hope you're

feeling better soon.

Love, Barb

SLC, UT

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> he is so delicate , my sweety Dan...hacking up crud...nice imagery there

dear...

>

>

>

> Jen, & nbsp; I do not think I would wait around to see if this got

> better, it sound like it is worse to me. & nbsp; You did not mention if

> you was running a fever or not, & nbsp; but (we all do a lot anyway

> right) if you are I would get my butt to the doctor and get checked

> out before this lands you in the hospital or something. & nbsp; If you

> are hurting in the chest and hacking up crud, & nbsp; this can not be

> all good I would think. & nbsp; Don't do like I used to and lay around

> and be miserable and wait for it to go away, & nbsp; I would go to doc

> and see what is going on. & nbsp; Especially since you are already on

> medicines and all.

> Best of luck

> Dan

>

>

>

> & gt; I have a question, last time I was at the dr he gave me the

> pneumonia

> & gt; vaccine, because as I understand, stills can can cause fluid in or

> & gt; around the lungs, as of late I am having a really hard time

> taking & gt; deep breaths, my medication that I take for my asthma

> isn't making it

> & gt; easier for me to take the deep breaths, all it's doing is making

> me & gt; hack up gross phlem. This happens in the morning and at night,

> is it

> & gt; just my asthma, or could it be related to the stills?????

> & gt; I had a really bad night last night, I was in bed by 9:30 and I

> woke

> & gt; up this morning around 10:30 quarter till 11:00, I feel all nasuea

> & gt; and I ache, and I'm still tired, will this ever go away??????

> & gt;

> & gt; Jen#2

>

>

>

>

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Jen, I do not think I would wait around to see if this got better,

it sound like it is worse to me. You did not mention if you was

running a fever or not, but (we all do a lot anyway right) if you

are I would get my butt to the doctor and get checked out before this

lands you in the hospital or something. If you are hurting in the

chest and hacking up crud, this can not be all good I would think.

Don't do like I used to and lay around and be miserable and wait for

it to go away, I would go to doc and see what is going on.

Especially since you are already on medicines and all.

Best of luck

Dan

> I have a question, last time I was at the dr he gave me the

pneumonia

> vaccine, because as I understand, stills can can cause fluid in or

> around the lungs, as of late I am having a really hard time taking

> deep breaths, my medication that I take for my asthma isn't making

it

> easier for me to take the deep breaths, all it's doing is making me

> hack up gross phlem. This happens in the morning and at night, is

it

> just my asthma, or could it be related to the stills?????

> I had a really bad night last night, I was in bed by 9:30 and I

woke

> up this morning around 10:30 quarter till 11:00, I feel all nasuea

> and I ache, and I'm still tired, will this ever go away??????

>

> Jen#2

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Marilyn, so sorry about your computer! When that happens it is like we

have lost an arm or something, lol. I thought bone scan and bone

density tests were the same thing. NO?? Louise.

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>

> Can anyone tell me and describe the difference between a " bone

> density " test

> and a " bone scan " ? Just curious. I know and have had several bone

> density

> tests but don't think I've ever had a bone scan.

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Hi Meril; goodness, smoke out the back. You must have been burning up

those keys, lol. And the extra expense doesn't help. As to your question I

think that the bone scan tells where the deterioration is and the bone

density checks for how close or susceptible you are to Osteoporosis. Glad

to have you back with us, till soon, Melt

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>

> Can anyone tell me and describe the difference between a " bone density "

test

> and a " bone scan " ? Well I haven't been online for a few days as my

computer literally blew up

> on me....it even had smoke coming out of the back of it...yikes!

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Hi Meril; goodness, smoke out the back. You must have been burning up

those keys, lol. And the extra expense doesn't help. As to your question I

think that the bone scan tells where the deterioration is and the bone

density checks for how close or susceptible you are to Osteoporosis. Glad

to have you back with us, till soon, Melt

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>

> Can anyone tell me and describe the difference between a " bone density "

test

> and a " bone scan " ? Well I haven't been online for a few days as my

computer literally blew up

> on me....it even had smoke coming out of the back of it...yikes!

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Hello marilyn im not postive but i the the bone density gives you how much

calicium is in your bones.I had bone scan today and they were lookin at my hip

in paticular to see whats goin on pretty sure its the more detailed one.Take

care and again sumone correct me if im wrong lol. d.Canada

Question

Can anyone tell me and describe the difference between a " bone density " test

and a " bone scan " ? Just curious. I know and have had several bone density

tests but don't think I've ever had a bone scan.

Well I haven't been online for a few days as my computer literally blew up

on me....it even had smoke coming out of the back of it...yikes! So I had

to go out and buy a brand new one...ouch that hurt the pocket book!

, glad to hear you and your boys thoroughly enjoyed the trip, it's so

nice to see you relax and have fun every now and then because you deserve it

girl!

Tricia is it true that the pain has left your foot/ankle? I read in one of

your emails that the pain disappeared but am I correct to say that it has

come back again and that it sent you to the ER in horrible pain? Oh gosh, I

certainly hope not!

Sorry everyone but I had to delete alot of emails due to the back log. Hope

all is well and that tomorrow will be a better day for EVERYONE!

Take care,

Marilyn

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Hello marilyn im not postive but i the the bone density gives you how much

calicium is in your bones.I had bone scan today and they were lookin at my hip

in paticular to see whats goin on pretty sure its the more detailed one.Take

care and again sumone correct me if im wrong lol. d.Canada

Question

Can anyone tell me and describe the difference between a " bone density " test

and a " bone scan " ? Just curious. I know and have had several bone density

tests but don't think I've ever had a bone scan.

Well I haven't been online for a few days as my computer literally blew up

on me....it even had smoke coming out of the back of it...yikes! So I had

to go out and buy a brand new one...ouch that hurt the pocket book!

, glad to hear you and your boys thoroughly enjoyed the trip, it's so

nice to see you relax and have fun every now and then because you deserve it

girl!

Tricia is it true that the pain has left your foot/ankle? I read in one of

your emails that the pain disappeared but am I correct to say that it has

come back again and that it sent you to the ER in horrible pain? Oh gosh, I

certainly hope not!

Sorry everyone but I had to delete alot of emails due to the back log. Hope

all is well and that tomorrow will be a better day for EVERYONE!

Take care,

Marilyn

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I am pretty sure bone density looks for osteoporosis and a bone scan is used

to see if cancer has spread to the bones....

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Hi there Marilyn!

I've been missing you! I guess your computer *did* literally

blow up on you! Holy cats! They can cost a few $$ to replace

that's for sure. Happy you are back sweety!

About my foot. I had been having some really serious pain

on the top right side of the right foot for a couple of months.

I saw an Orthopedic surgeon back in March, and he looked

over xrays of the foot and gave me a Cortisone shot., (in the

foot) and said I'd probably need to get some bones in the foot

fused. The shot helped for only a few days... then I was living

on Darvocet. But, one night nothing touched the pain, and my

husband took me to the ER where I was given a big shot of

Morphine in one arm and anti-nausea med in the other. Also

doc on call wrote out a script for some potent pain patches.

the pain was then tolerable for the next two plus weeks. I saw the

surgeon again on the 21st. He had ordered xrays for both feet.

On Saturday night of the 19th the pain went away...no more

pain in that foot since then. I missed having bones fused (for

now) by a couple of days. Whew! As of now, it's still " okay. "

How is that new hip doing? Aren't you really happy that it's

in the past?

Take care dear friend!

~~tricia~~

Wisconsin

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Can anyone tell me and describe the difference between a " bone density " test

and a " bone scan " ? Just curious. I know and have had several bone density

tests but don't think I've ever had a bone scan.

Well I haven't been online for a few days as my computer literally blew up

on me....it even had smoke coming out of the back of it...yikes! So I had

to go out and buy a brand new one...ouch that hurt the pocket book!

, glad to hear you and your boys thoroughly enjoyed the trip, it's so

nice to see you relax and have fun every now and then because you deserve it

girl!

Tricia is it true that the pain has left your foot/ankle? I read in one of

your emails that the pain disappeared but am I correct to say that it has

come back again and that it sent you to the ER in horrible pain? Oh gosh, I

certainly hope not!

Sorry everyone but I had to delete alot of emails due to the back log. Hope

all is well and that tomorrow will be a better day for EVERYONE!

Take care,

Marilyn

mhogg69@...

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Patti; I have checked and I " think " that you are the same time zone as our

eastern time. Marilyn, I need you help on this. Can you tell Patti what

time for her is chat tonight?

Next Patti to get to the group site you go to , click groups after you

log in and it should come up with your group(s) as Stillsdisease and take

you to the home page. When there you would scroll down to photo's on the

left side of the page and it should take you to the album where you would

click on yours. Hope this helps, till later, Melt

question

> Just a quick question....the caht tomorrow night is at 9pm EST does anyone

> know what time that is here in Ontario???? Another thing....I posted my

> pictures on Stills NEt how do I get back there???

> Patti

>

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Hello Melt,

As far as I know, we here in Ontario are in the Eastern Time Zone so if your

chat is for 9pm Eastern time then it would be 9pm for Patti. So since we

are in the same time zone, it doesn't affect her with time changes.

Does this make sense?????

Marilyn

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Patti; I have checked and I " think " that you are the same time zone as our

eastern time. Marilyn, I need you help on this. Can you tell Patti what

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Yes Marilyn, did you catch that Patti? The time for you is 9 pm, Thursday

evening. Just click the link you get this evening.

Re: question

> Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:12:44 -0700

>

> Patti; I have checked and I " think " that you are the same time zone as

our

> eastern time. Marilyn, I need you help on this. Can you tell Patti what

> time for her is chat tonight?

>

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THANX!!!!

>From: " Marilyn Hogg " <mhogg69@...>

>Reply-Stillsdisease

>Stillsdisease

>Subject: Re: question

>Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 16:49:38 -0400

>

>Hello Melt,

>

>As far as I know, we here in Ontario are in the Eastern Time Zone so if

>your

>chat is for 9pm Eastern time then it would be 9pm for Patti. So since we

>are in the same time zone, it doesn't affect her with time changes.

>

>Does this make sense?????

>

>Marilyn

>

>

>----Original Message Follows----

>From: " Melt " <newme@...>

>Reply-Stillsdisease

><Stillsdisease >

>Subject: Re: question

>Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 13:12:44 -0700

>

>Patti; I have checked and I " think " that you are the same time zone as our

>eastern time. Marilyn, I need you help on this. Can you tell Patti what

>time for her is chat tonight?

>

>

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