Re: Re: QUESTION FOR DR. GRIM PLEASE!!!

[Guest guest]

Jeff has a good experience with the one he recommended.

You need a BP specialist.

Send us your renin and aldo results and what is normal for that lab.

Also need to know how much K is in urine (24 hr for Na and K.

Read my evolution article and take to all your Drs.

How low has K been?

Assume someone asked you if you eat licorice?

If not you have no yet seen a BP or hormone specialist.

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What's AVS?

Ellen

datawrhsdoc wrote:

> Desire,

>

> Have you done a consult with Dr. Gordon Wotton (404) 256-0775? He

> isolated my PA within a couple of visits and was very conscientious

> about getting an accurate diagnosis. In fact, he was so detailed

> oriented, he interviewed the lead interventional radiologist at Emory,

> and based on that discussion, sent me up to University of Virgina for

> the AVS instead.

>

> -Jeff

[Guest guest]

So, Dr. Grim, I think you've inadvertently answered a question that I asked

that you haven't responded to yet. And that question was, what tests should

I get next, besides aldo, renin and comp. chem. panel. I guess I need to

ask for the urine K and Na. Licorice lowers HBP, right?

Ellen

Clarence Grim wrote:

> Jeff has a good experience with the one he recommended.

>

> You need a BP specialist.

>

> Send us your renin and aldo results and what is normal for that lab.

>

> Also need to know how much K is in urine (24 hr for Na and K.

>

> Read my evolution article and take to all your Drs.

>

> How low has K been?

>

> Assume someone asked you if you eat licorice?

[Guest guest]

Adrenal vein sampling.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Ellen

What's AVS?

[Guest guest]

No licorice increases BP and lowers K.

You should just have another 24 hr urine for Na and K and blood renin

and aldo.

HOwever is BP and K are normal and you are feeling OK I would not do

further testing now.

On Mar 4, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Ellen wrote:

> So, Dr. Grim, I think you've inadvertently answered a question that I

> asked

> that you haven't responded to yet. And that question was, what tests

> should

> I get next, besides aldo, renin and comp. chem. panel. I guess I need

> to

> ask for the urine K and Na. Licorice lowers HBP, right?

> Ellen

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim BS, MS, MD

High Blood Pressure Consulting

Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure

Consult the following at for details

bloodpressureline

hyperaldosteronism

[Guest guest]

I'm confused. So, you're saying do not do further testing now, however, I

should have a 24 hr. urine for Na and K? I was just planning to have the

comp chem panel and aldo and renin the next time, which will be sometime in

April. I've never had the 24 hr. test before for K and Na. I did have ones

last spring for adrenal hormones, and all were within normal range.

Ellen

Clarence Grim wrote:

> No licorice increases BP and lowers K.

>

> You should just have another 24 hr urine for Na and K and blood renin

> and aldo.

>

> HOwever is BP and K are normal and you are feeling OK I would not do

> further testing now.

[Guest guest]

Acutally you cannot tell if they are in the normal range, at least

renin and aldo unless you also know the 24 hr urine Na and K done at

the same time.

The reason I recommended the 24 hr urine at this stage is to quatitate

how much Na and K you are eating to see if you are meeting the DASH

goals: Na <1500 mg, K>4000 mg.

At least is you want to control an elevated BP and prob prevent HTN.

At least it does is you are a chimpanzee.

On Mar 4, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Ellen wrote:

> I'm confused. So, you're saying do not do further testing now,

> however, I

> should have a 24 hr. urine for Na and K? I was just planning to have

> the

> comp chem panel and aldo and renin the next time, which will be

> sometime in

> April. I've never had the 24 hr. test before for K and Na. I did have

> ones

> last spring for adrenal hormones, and all were within normal range.

> Ellen

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim BS, MS, MD

High Blood Pressure Consulting

Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure

Consult the following at for details

bloodpressureline

hyperaldosteronism

[Guest guest]

He sounds like he knows what he is doing based on Jeff's report. Take

my article with you so he knows you are in the know.

On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Desire wrote:

> Not yet jeff, ok Dr. Wotton, before I asked this question to Dr. Grim

> I tried going back to see if I could fine a post with this

> information and I could not. Thanks for the feedback and information

> I will go and see Dr. Wotton.

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello Dr. Grim and Happy Tuesday to you. Can you please

> recommend a

> > > Doctor here in Atlanta GA that can help me to find out whats

> really

> > > going on with me. I have been to three specialist. I am

> currently

> > > seeing Dr.Kumin whom is a hormone disorder specialist and he is

> the

> > > third doctor that does not know what is wrong with me. They all

> keep

> > > prescribing potassium pills, which I take twice a day, and blood

> > > pressure pills which I take one a day. I have had my adrenal

> gland

> > > tested and the test are normal. I know from my own experience and

> body

> > > that I am losing Potassium, cause when its low, I have the sore

> muscles

> > > and muscle spasms, and I take the potassium I feel good again.

> I just

> > > really want to see someone here in Atlanta GA a little more

> experienced

> > > in this area. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Desire.

> > >

> >

>

>

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim BS, MS, MD

High Blood Pressure Consulting

Specializing in Difficult to Manage High Blood Pressure

Consult the following at for details

bloodpressureline

hyperaldosteronism

[Guest guest]

Desire,

Please tell him " Hello " for me.

-Jeff

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Desire <desire_diva@...> wrote:

> Not yet jeff, ok Dr. Wotton, before I asked this question to Dr. Grim

> I tried going back to see if I could fine a post with this

> information and I could not. Thanks for the feedback and information

> I will go and see Dr. Wotton.

>

>

> > >

> > > Hello Dr. Grim and Happy Tuesday to you. Can you please

> recommend a

> > > Doctor here in Atlanta GA that can help me to find out whats

> really

> > > going on with me. I have been to three specialist. I am

> currently

> > > seeing Dr.Kumin whom is a hormone disorder specialist and he is

> the

> > > third doctor that does not know what is wrong with me. They all

> keep

> > > prescribing potassium pills, which I take twice a day, and blood

> > > pressure pills which I take one a day. I have had my adrenal

> gland

> > > tested and the test are normal. I know from my own experience and

> body

> > > that I am losing Potassium, cause when its low, I have the sore

> muscles

> > > and muscle spasms, and I take the potassium I feel good again.

> I just

> > > really want to see someone here in Atlanta GA a little more

> experienced

> > > in this area. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Desire.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It6 is not possible to have not K in urine.

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

On Tuesday, March 11, 2008, at 02:16PM, " Desire " <desire_diva@...> wrote:

>Will get those results for you just had all that done, and 24 hr

>urine, no K in my urine. Currently seeing BP specialist and hormone

>specialist.

>

>

>

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