Re: IEP on Tues.

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In a message dated 1/21/2006 10:49:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

drf218@... writes:

I asked the LS teacher where I work and she said it WAS a law that you can't

have more than a 3 grade span in one classroom. She couldn't tell me where I

could find this law tho'.

Isn't that always the way! They think they know the law but can't tell you

where to find it. That's cause it is what they have been told by

administration and they take it for gospel. It was the same with Micah and the

pre-school thing. They said he absolutely could not go to pre-school again

this year

because he was aging out and that was the law!! NOT! Even my therapist who

was on his side, and works for my district,said it was the law and had never

been done. I went back with the law that stated he needs the appropriate

placement and if they could not provide it in school district then they would

provide outside, they then were ready to give me nursery school. No problem

all of a sudden. He would have been the first in the district to get it, but

I threw them a curve and told them I wanted half day kindy instead in

regular classroom. Figured this would be a first also and a chance for Micah

to have a " dry run through " before going to kindy AGAIN next year. After

hearing " but we only have full day kindy " we did get the placement. This also

was a first for the district. Micah's SPED teacher was just telling me of

another case where mom wanted to hold back 4 year old turning 5 late and school

pulling same thing., I told her what the law was and she was going to tell

this mom. Sad isn't it. On a good note. Micah just started full day kindy

this past Thursday. We all felt he was ready and so far so good. I had no

problem changing it at a review hearing and I must say everyone at his school

has been phenomenal. So you got keep plugging along and if you think it is

best for your child...go for it

Loree

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In a message dated 1/21/2006 6:10:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

drf218@... writes:

It sounds like you are paving many new roads for your fellow district

parents of special kids. GOOD FOR YOU!

I hope so. I have been in my district for 31 years. My oldest is 30 and so

I think it helps that I am not intimidated by the " system " anymore as I was

when I was a young mom. To bad we couldn't know then what we learn through

the years, but hey, that's what this group is for. I am learning from mom's

with children with DS that have walked that 30 year road already with their

kids. Thanks guys!

Loree

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In a message dated 1/21/2006 6:11:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

drf218@... writes:

I just found in my state regs that the age span cannot be more than 3 years

unless an exception is determined to be appropriate by the IEP team and is

justified in the IEP. So I still have a good chance of keeping him where he is

at least for 1 more year.

Di

Good news! I always love to hear, good news!!!

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I do not know if it is a law but personally part of my problem with some of

the lifeskills classes was that my little girl at 5 would be in a class with

much older and at times bigger students... while before puberty it may not

be as much of a problem as children get older it can be... and maybe that

reasoning was part of what the LS teacher was talking about with the age

span they have as what may be an internal school rule as opposed to a law

ann

IEP on Tues.

> We had our psych eval w/ our wrap around agency on Thurs. The psychologist

> also works for a school district so he was very helpful with suggestions

> on how I can " get around " the age thing. I can't seem to find any " law "

> (Fed or state) that is age specific. The Dr. said if we can give good

> arguments as to why the older class would be less appropriate than where

> he is now, we could probably convince them to agree. He also said parents

> have a lot more power than they tend to think sometimes. He said to go in

> with a plan and do my homework. I assured him I always do. 80)

> I asked the LS teacher where I work and she said it WAS a law that you

> can't have more than a 3 grade span in one classroom. She couldn't tell me

> where I could find this law tho'. Last year the director said we would

> probably be holding Nic back another year before he gets to Middle school,

> so if I have to, I'll make this the year-making him still in 2nd grade.

> (that will be my backup plan tho).

>

> Anyone have any last minute thoughts on our dilemma?

>

> Di

>

>

> We have an IEP on Tuesday. Nic had a horrible year last year. The teacher

>> was awful. He was in PT learning support at our home school. We decided

>> to

>> move him this year because if he stayed there, he would have the same

>> teacher. This year he is in a FT learning support in a different school

>> within the district. Even though we didn't want to put him in a more

>> restrictive environment, we are very pleased with this year's progress.

>> It

>> is mostly due to the teacher and aides-they are all awesome!!! The

>> problem

>> is, he is aging out and they are going to want to move him to the older

>> class. Same school. I met this teacher last year and I left in tears.

>> Without even meeting Nic she drew a conclusion that her's was not the

>> class

>> for him and that " there's a real nice Life Skills class in Pottstown. "

>>

>> Does anyone know if it's a law that kids can't be in a certain class

>> because

>> of age???

>>

>>

>

>

>

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I just found in my state regs that the age span cannot be more than 3 years

unless an exception is determined to be appropriate by the IEP team and is

justified in the IEP. So I still have a good chance of keeping him where he is

at least for 1 more year.

Di

Re: IEP on Tues.

In a message dated 1/21/2006 10:49:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

drf218@... writes:

I asked the LS teacher where I work and she said it WAS a law that you can't

have more than a 3 grade span in one classroom. She couldn't tell me where I

could find this law tho'.

Isn't that always the way! They think they know the law but can't tell you

where to find it. That's cause it is what they have been told by administration

and they take it for gospel. It was the same with Micah and the pre-school

thing. They said he absolutely could not go to pre-school again this year

because he was aging out and that was the law!! NOT! Even my therapist who was

on his side, and works for my district,said it was the law and had never been

done. I went back with the law that stated he needs the appropriate placement

and if they could not provide it in school district then they would provide

outside, they then were ready to give me nursery school. No problem all of a

sudden. He would have been the first in the district to get it, but I threw

them a curve and told them I wanted half day kindy instead in regular

classroom. Figured this would be a first also and a chance for Micah to have a

" dry run through " before going to kindy AGAIN next year. After hearing " but we

only have full day kindy " we did get the placement. This also was a first for

the district. Micah's SPED teacher was just telling me of another case where

mom wanted to hold back 4 year old turning 5 late and school pulling same

thing., I told her what the law was and she was going to tell this mom. Sad

isn't it. On a good note. Micah just started full day kindy this past

Thursday. We all felt he was ready and so far so good. I had no problem

changing it at a review hearing and I must say everyone at his school has been

phenomenal. So you got keep plugging along and if you think it is best for your

child...go for it

Loree

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you are paving many new roads for your fellow district parents of

special kids. GOOD FOR YOU!

Di

Re: IEP on Tues.

In a message dated 1/21/2006 10:49:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

drf218@... writes:

I asked the LS teacher where I work and she said it WAS a law that you can't

have more than a 3 grade span in one classroom. She couldn't tell me where I

could find this law tho'.

Isn't that always the way! They think they know the law but can't tell you

where to find it. That's cause it is what they have been told by administration

and they take it for gospel. It was the same with Micah and the pre-school

thing. They said he absolutely could not go to pre-school again this year

because he was aging out and that was the law!! NOT! Even my therapist who was

on his side, and works for my district,said it was the law and had never been

done. I went back with the law that stated he needs the appropriate placement

and if they could not provide it in school district then they would provide

outside, they then were ready to give me nursery school. No problem all of a

sudden. He would have been the first in the district to get it, but I threw

them a curve and told them I wanted half day kindy instead in regular

classroom. Figured this would be a first also and a chance for Micah to have a

" dry run through " before going to kindy AGAIN next year. After hearing " but we

only have full day kindy " we did get the placement. This also was a first for

the district. Micah's SPED teacher was just telling me of another case where

mom wanted to hold back 4 year old turning 5 late and school pulling same

thing., I told her what the law was and she was going to tell this mom. Sad

isn't it. On a good note. Micah just started full day kindy this past

Thursday. We all felt he was ready and so far so good. I had no problem

changing it at a review hearing and I must say everyone at his school has been

phenomenal. So you got keep plugging along and if you think it is best for your

child...go for it

Loree

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yes I thought of that too but Nic looks more like a 6 or 7 yo. Very short

for his age 80)

Di

IEP on Tues.

>

>

>> We had our psych eval w/ our wrap around agency on Thurs. The

>> psychologist

>> also works for a school district so he was very helpful with suggestions

>> on how I can " get around " the age thing. I can't seem to find any " law "

>> (Fed or state) that is age specific. The Dr. said if we can give good

>> arguments as to why the older class would be less appropriate than where

>> he is now, we could probably convince them to agree. He also said parents

>> have a lot more power than they tend to think sometimes. He said to go in

>> with a plan and do my homework. I assured him I always do. 80)

>> I asked the LS teacher where I work and she said it WAS a law that you

>> can't have more than a 3 grade span in one classroom. She couldn't tell

>> me

>> where I could find this law tho'. Last year the director said we would

>> probably be holding Nic back another year before he gets to Middle

>> school,

>> so if I have to, I'll make this the year-making him still in 2nd grade.

>> (that will be my backup plan tho).

>>

>> Anyone have any last minute thoughts on our dilemma?

>>

>> Di

>>

>>

>> We have an IEP on Tuesday. Nic had a horrible year last year. The teacher

>>> was awful. He was in PT learning support at our home school. We decided

>>> to

>>> move him this year because if he stayed there, he would have the same

>>> teacher. This year he is in a FT learning support in a different school

>>> within the district. Even though we didn't want to put him in a more

>>> restrictive environment, we are very pleased with this year's progress.

>>> It

>>> is mostly due to the teacher and aides-they are all awesome!!! The

>>> problem

>>> is, he is aging out and they are going to want to move him to the older

>>> class. Same school. I met this teacher last year and I left in tears.

>>> Without even meeting Nic she drew a conclusion that her's was not the

>>> class

>>> for him and that " there's a real nice Life Skills class in Pottstown. "

>>>

>>> Does anyone know if it's a law that kids can't be in a certain class

>>> because

>>> of age???

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

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yeah... in Nic's case I have seen him and know he is smaller.....

IEP on Tues.

>>

>>

>>> We had our psych eval w/ our wrap around agency on Thurs. The

>>> psychologist

>>> also works for a school district so he was very helpful with suggestions

>>> on how I can " get around " the age thing. I can't seem to find any " law "

>>> (Fed or state) that is age specific. The Dr. said if we can give good

>>> arguments as to why the older class would be less appropriate than where

>>> he is now, we could probably convince them to agree. He also said

>>> parents

>>> have a lot more power than they tend to think sometimes. He said to go

>>> in

>>> with a plan and do my homework. I assured him I always do. 80)

>>> I asked the LS teacher where I work and she said it WAS a law that you

>>> can't have more than a 3 grade span in one classroom. She couldn't tell

>>> me

>>> where I could find this law tho'. Last year the director said we would

>>> probably be holding Nic back another year before he gets to Middle

>>> school,

>>> so if I have to, I'll make this the year-making him still in 2nd grade.

>>> (that will be my backup plan tho).

>>>

>>> Anyone have any last minute thoughts on our dilemma?

>>>

>>> Di

>>>

>>>

>>> We have an IEP on Tuesday. Nic had a horrible year last year. The

>>> teacher

>>>> was awful. He was in PT learning support at our home school. We

>>>> decided

>>>> to

>>>> move him this year because if he stayed there, he would have the same

>>>> teacher. This year he is in a FT learning support in a different school

>>>> within the district. Even though we didn't want to put him in a more

>>>> restrictive environment, we are very pleased with this year's progress.

>>>> It

>>>> is mostly due to the teacher and aides-they are all awesome!!! The

>>>> problem

>>>> is, he is aging out and they are going to want to move him to the older

>>>> class. Same school. I met this teacher last year and I left in tears.

>>>> Without even meeting Nic she drew a conclusion that her's was not the

>>>> class

>>>> for him and that " there's a real nice Life Skills class in Pottstown. "

>>>>

>>>> Does anyone know if it's a law that kids can't be in a certain class

>>>> because

>>>> of age???

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>