Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 Well...and I also wonder if he believes we're not aware of soft tissue... It sounds as if he's from an LMT background and that "soft tissue" (versus hard bone) is his "round world." And, he has mentioned guarding, and meniscal tears, and other such soft tissue components to joint dysfunction/subluxation...but....he acts like that's the only thing to treat, and we should IGNORE the pathomechanics. Does he think we don't treat SOFT TISSUE here!? We're not in Washington state... We do do soft tissue work in Oregon... At a point in Chiropractic where this list serve is discussing such concepts as QUANTUM PHYSICS...we have a rogue collogue traveling down rabbit holes trying to re-define physiology. To me, it appears he's just struggling to assimilate the most basic components of the subluxation complex... A true enigma! (and I'm REALLY trying to be kind and professional). (;-) RR. Re: Dr Welker OT I wonder if he is an IME Dr. that does paper reviews!!> Doctor Welker:>> There have been many Doc's on the listserve respond to your frighteningly> rude and arrogant posts. You have stated that there are two theories of> Chiropractic that may be followed and that niether are correct, further> you state that one theory is of malposition and fixation.>> Unfortunately like I said you cannot argue with insanity and in this case> the argument is insane.>> First and foremost: the only theory behind Chiropractic is the removal of> subluxation(s). That, doctor, is the definition of Chiropractic. The> subluxation complex has been further defined as having the malposition and> fixation aspects, ie bio-mechanical , but others as well. The research in> this arena is substantial and while you may want to argue with the> research and definitions the fact remains that, by definition, as a DC you> are to remove subluxations. There is no other theory... period. If you> want to counter by insisting something else you are not practicing> Chiropractic but manipulative therapy in an allopathic model.>> More and more research is being done that steadfastly embraces the orignal> thought of the Chiropractic leaders who spoke about subluxations 100+> years ago, about the educated and innate mind, homeostasis etc, etc>> You claim to want have a discussion to "open" up our minds..... there are> several DC's that I know personally that have responded to your posts,> they are a pretty open minded group. Yet you continue to be arrogant and> rude whilst claiming the "correct" theory, misqouting arrogance and self> granduer, as "pulling the rug out" from under persons.>> The paltry few anti chiropractic studies you managed to post are laughable> in response to the plethora of research that you have been pointed> towards. That you want to take a small portion of what Chiropractic is and> attack a listserve is unprofessional conduct and self serving to a much> higher degree than what you are willing to admit.>>> I personally detest those DC's who insist academacian superiority as an> assagement to their ego's. I hope that the rest of this listserve puts a> check in the little box that says "block sender", as I am doing.>> Get this Doc, you will continue to wallow in self granduer and> frustration, cause bottom line, you don't have respect or passion for what> it is that you do.>> Dr BDR CHARLIE CAUGHLIN DC. CAC155 NW 1ST AVEJOHN DAY, OR 97845OFF-541-575-1063FAX-541-575-5554HM-541-575-1103OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. Quote
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 Oh man...I don't know whether I'm just getting tired of this subject, or whether spell check is kicking my booty today... (I MEANT "colleague"). Wow...I'm done, over and out. (:-) Re: Dr Welker OT I wonder if he is an IME Dr. that does paper reviews!!> Doctor Welker:>> There have been many Doc's on the listserve respond to your frighteningly> rude and arrogant posts. You have stated that there are two theories of> Chiropractic that may be followed and that niether are correct, further> you state that one theory is of malposition and fixation.>> Unfortunately like I said you cannot argue with insanity and in this case> the argument is insane.>> First and foremost: the only theory behind Chiropractic is the removal of> subluxation(s). That, doctor, is the definition of Chiropractic. The> subluxation complex has been further defined as having the malposition and> fixation aspects, ie bio-mechanical , but others as well. The research in> this arena is substantial and while you may want to argue with the> research and definitions the fact remains that, by definition, as a DC you> are to remove subluxations. There is no other theory... period. If you> want to counter by insisting something else you are not practicing> Chiropractic but manipulative therapy in an allopathic model.>> More and more research is being done that steadfastly embraces the orignal> thought of the Chiropractic leaders who spoke about subluxations 100+> years ago, about the educated and innate mind, homeostasis etc, etc>> You claim to want have a discussion to "open" up our minds..... there are> several DC's that I know personally that have responded to your posts,> they are a pretty open minded group. Yet you continue to be arrogant and> rude whilst claiming the "correct" theory, misqouting arrogance and self> granduer, as "pulling the rug out" from under persons.>> The paltry few anti chiropractic studies you managed to post are laughable> in response to the plethora of research that you have been pointed> towards. That you want to take a small portion of what Chiropractic is and> attack a listserve is unprofessional conduct and self serving to a much> higher degree than what you are willing to admit.>>> I personally detest those DC's who insist academacian superiority as an> assagement to their ego's. I hope that the rest of this listserve puts a> check in the little box that says "block sender", as I am doing.>> Get this Doc, you will continue to wallow in self granduer and> frustration, cause bottom line, you don't have respect or passion for what> it is that you do.>> Dr BDR CHARLIE CAUGHLIN DC. CAC155 NW 1ST AVEJOHN DAY, OR 97845OFF-541-575-1063FAX-541-575-5554HM-541-575-1103OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. Quote
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 Dr. s, I often wonder if you actually read what I have written or if you just randomly respond. I explained the relationship of muscular guarding and joint irritation, if you have taken this out of context, please don't. I said nothing of joint dysfunction, subluxation, or pathomechanics. Never said you didn't treat soft tissue, and never said I was an LMT or had an LMT background. Quantum physics, then you should have no problem with following my simple thoughts and logic. Rogue colleague, hmmm, name call much? You are right, the assimilation process isn't going very well. Maybe it is me, maybe I should be quiet, raise my hand to the banner of subluxation and assimilate. No, wait I already tried that and it didn't make any sense. You have a lot of energy, I like that. Brad Welker, D.C. > > Well...and I also wonder if he believes we're not aware of soft tissue... It sounds as if he's from an LMT background and that " soft tissue " (versus hard bone) is his " round world. " > > And, he has mentioned guarding, and meniscal tears, and other such soft tissue components to joint dysfunction/subluxation...but....he acts like that's the only thing to treat, and we should IGNORE the pathomechanics. > > Does he think we don't treat SOFT TISSUE here!? We're not in Washington state... We do do soft tissue work in Oregon... > > At a point in Chiropractic where this list serve is discussing such concepts as QUANTUM PHYSICS...we have a rogue collogue traveling down rabbit holes trying to re-define physiology. > > To me, it appears he's just struggling to assimilate the most basic components of the subluxation complex... > > A true enigma! (and I'm REALLY trying to be kind and professional). (;-) > > RR. > Re: Dr Welker OT > > > I wonder if he is an IME Dr. that does paper reviews!! > > Doctor Welker: > > > > There have been many Doc's on the listserve respond to your frighteningly > > rude and arrogant posts. You have stated that there are two theories of > > Chiropractic that may be followed and that niether are correct, further > > you state that one theory is of malposition and fixation. > > > > Unfortunately like I said you cannot argue with insanity and in this case > > the argument is insane. > > > > First and foremost: the only theory behind Chiropractic is the removal of > > subluxation(s). That, doctor, is the definition of Chiropractic. The > > subluxation complex has been further defined as having the malposition and > > fixation aspects, ie bio-mechanical , but others as well. The research in > > this arena is substantial and while you may want to argue with the > > research and definitions the fact remains that, by definition, as a DC you > > are to remove subluxations. There is no other theory... period. If you > > want to counter by insisting something else you are not practicing > > Chiropractic but manipulative therapy in an allopathic model. > > > > More and more research is being done that steadfastly embraces the orignal > > thought of the Chiropractic leaders who spoke about subluxations 100+ > > years ago, about the educated and innate mind, homeostasis etc, etc > > > > You claim to want have a discussion to " open " up our minds..... there are > > several DC's that I know personally that have responded to your posts, > > they are a pretty open minded group. Yet you continue to be arrogant and > > rude whilst claiming the " correct " theory, misqouting arrogance and self > > granduer, as " pulling the rug out " from under persons. > > > > The paltry few anti chiropractic studies you managed to post are laughable > > in response to the plethora of research that you have been pointed > > towards. That you want to take a small portion of what Chiropractic is and > > attack a listserve is unprofessional conduct and self serving to a much > > higher degree than what you are willing to admit. > > > > > > I personally detest those DC's who insist academacian superiority as an > > assagement to their ego's. I hope that the rest of this listserve puts a > > check in the little box that says " block sender " , as I am doing. > > > > Get this Doc, you will continue to wallow in self granduer and > > frustration, cause bottom line, you don't have respect or passion for what > > it is that you do. > > > > Dr B > > > DR CHARLIE CAUGHLIN DC. CAC > 155 NW 1ST AVE > JOHN DAY, OR 97845 > OFF-541-575-1063 > FAX-541-575-5554 > HM-541-575-1103 > > > > > OregonDCs rules: > 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated. > 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > Quote
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