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Hi Sunny,

I note some interesting correlations between this article and others

I've been reading about the effects of stress on human health.

Specifically, patients with diagnoses of marked anxiety and depression,

those recovering from addictions, those with cognitive dysfunctions

(alcoholics, drug addicts), those with closed head injuries, children

and adults with attention deficit disorders, and those with

fibromyalgia - are all statistically significant for low levels of

IGF-1, which leads to lowered bone densities, less muscle mass, and

negatively altered blood lipids. Could it be that consumption of cow's

milk laced with growth hormone oversupplies the body with that similar

compound inhibiting pituitary, etc. production of human GH and,

consequently, lowers IGF-1? It's my understanding that IGF-1 has a

mediating effect on growth hormone...

( " The insulin-like growth factor - 1 (IGF-1) test is an indirect

measure of the average amount of growth hormone (GH) being produced by

the body. IGF-1 and GH are peptide hormones, small proteins that are

vital for normal bone and tissue growth and development. GH is produced

by the pituitary (a grape-sized gland located at the base of the brain

behind the bridge of your nose) and secreted into the bloodstream in

pulses throughout the day and night with peaks that occur mostly during

the night. IGF-1 is produced, primarily in response to GH stimulation,

by the liver and some is also produced by skeletal muscles. It mediates

many of the actions of GH and so stimulates the growth of bones and

other tissues and promotes the production of lean muscle mass. IGF-1

mirrors GH excesses and deficiencies, but its level is stable

throughout the day, making it a useful indicator of average GH levels.

Like GH, IGF-1 levels normally are low in early childhood, increase

gradually during childhood, peak during puberty, and then decline in

adult life. Deficiencies in GH and IGF-1 may be caused by conditions

such as hypopituitarism (hypothalamic-pituitary disease; resulting in a

general lack of GH production by the pituitary) or the presence of a

non-GH-producing pituitary tumor that damages hormone-producing cells.

Deficiencies in IGF-1 also occur where there is a lack of

responsiveness to GH (GH Insensitivity; GHI). GHI may be primary

(genetic) or secondary to conditions such as malnutrition and chronic

diseases.

Deficiencies early in life can inhibit bone growth and overall

development and can result in a child with a shorter than normal

stature. While levels of GH and IGF-1 are not as high in adults as in

children, they do play a continuing role in regulating bone density,

muscle mass, and lipid metabolism. Therefore, decreased production can

lead to low bone densities, less muscle mass, and altered lipids.... "

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/igf1/sample.html>)

If this is the case, that IGF-1 decreases are compounded by milk

drinking, then the negative effects from milk may not be solely

obstructive from calcification.

(More than 50 diseases have been linked to the

consumption of dairy products and lately there is much

interest in the fact that those who suffered a previous

heart attack are more likely to have osteoporosis than

those who did not report a heart attack.

The common link is harmful calcification that can

result from regular consumption of dairy products....)

Just an interesting connection...

Sears

PDX

On Apr 17, 2006, at 10:00 AM, sunny Kierstyn wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

>> Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

>> 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

>>

>> Eugene, Oregon, 97401

>>

>> 541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

>>> From: " Cohen " <notmilk@...>

>>> Reply-notmilk-owner

>>> notmilk

>>> Subject: NOTMILK - Rehabilitating Patients with Notmilk

>>> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:20:38 -0000

>>> Rehabilitating Patients with Notmilk

>>>

>>> It is quite refreshing to find an anti-milk article

>>> on a rehabilitation website. What a joy! The following

>>> article is posted (right-side of page under Featured

>>> Articles) at:

>>>

>>> http://www.rehabedge.com

>>>

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>> Milk Can Kill by Noble, PT

>>>

>>> Educate yourself and your patients that

>>> milk does NOT do the body good!

>>>

>>> When I started the SOWH in the mid-seventies,

>>> osteoporosis was not the common, deadly disease

>>> it is today (hip fractures are the 12th leading

>>> course of death). As a student in Australia

>>> during the decade before, osteoporosis was

>>> diagnosed only after a fracture caused by

>>> minimal trauma (e.g. falling from standing).

>>> Bone mineral density (BMD) scans had not been

>>> developed and I am not sure we were worse off

>>> without them (more on that subject later).

>>>

>>> To consider the consumption of dairy products as the

>>> culprit, not the cure or prevention of osteoporosis is

>>> to attack a very sacred cow for families, and also for

>>> the Big Business of dairy products. And osteoporosis is

>>> only part of the problem...

>>>

>>> Those of us who have observed the food trays of

>>> hospital inpatients can conclude that most dieticians,

>>> despite 4 years of formal education, have not kept

>>> current with the medical evidence. Exceptions include

>>> Appleton, Building Better Bones (1990) who also

>>> sells a test kit on her web site. Brown is another

>>> enlightened nutritionist who wrote Better Bones, Better

>>> Bodies in 1996.

>>>

>>> In 1992 Oski, Jr., who was chief of Pedatrics at

>>> s Hopkins wrote Don't Drink Your Milk: New Frightening

>>> Medical Facts About the World?s Most Overrated Nutrient.

>>> He had already linked milk consumption with juvenile

>>> diabetes and claimed that at least 50% of all children in

>>> the United States are allergic to milk, many undiagnosed,

>>> suffering among other ailments, constipation, diarrhea,

>>> and fatigue. Oski considered dairy products the leading

>>> cause of food allergy and advised against drinking milk

>>> or eating dairy products for all ages. Many cases of

>>> asthma and sinus infections, he found, were eliminated

>>> by cutting out dairy products.

>>>

>>> Another, better known, pediatrician Spock, in the

>>> 7th edition of his Child Care, admitted that " research has

>>> forced us to rethink this recommendation...dairy products

>>> contribute to a surprising number of health problems... "

>>> Then in 1997 Cohen, published Milk: The Deadly

>>> Poison, an expose of Monsanto's greed in causing Bovine

>>> Somatrotropin (BST-genetically engineered bovine growth

>>> hormone or rbGH) to be added to America's milk supply

>>> since 1994. Cohen created the Dairy Education Board in

>>> the midnineties and one could spend days exploring the

>>> extensive citations on his website: www.notmilk.com

>>>

>>> To understand ailments ranging from cancer to childhood

>>> obesity (many kids today even look bovine!) one must bear in

>>> mind that cows and humans share the same hormone, insulin-

>>> like growth factor, or IGF-1. Each sip of milk contains

>>> that growth hormone. Both human and cow's milk contain

>>> 70 amino acids in identical sequence. The injection of

>>> Monsanto's government-permitted poison into the cows

>>> increases the growth hormone in each sip of milk by 80%.

>>>

>>> In 1998, I picked up a French book by Anne Laroche-Walter:

>>>

>>> Lait de Vache: Blancheur Trompeuse, which translates as

>>> " Cow's milk: White Trickster " . following a 1994 publication,

>>> Ce Lait Qui Menace Les Femmes (This Milk that Threatens Women,

>>> by D. Rapha Nogier, who describes how drinking milk influences

>>> the preponderance of breast cancer. In 2001, Cohen

>>> published Milk: A-Z which is a book of cartoon illustrations

>>> on the right-hand page, and medical citations for the

>>> particular malady (e.g., asthma, zits) on the lefthand page.

>>> I highly recommend this book for your waiting room since

>>> patients can quickly look up an ailment. Children, always

>>> the target of noxious advertising, will be entertained by

>>> the drawings.

>>>

>>> In 2003, THE MILK LETTER : A MESSAGE TO MY

>>> PATIENTS was published in the Sunday New York Times

>>> Magazine, October 6, 2002 by M. Kradjian, MD,

>>> Breast Surgery Chief, Division of General Surgery at

>>> Seton Medical Centre in Daly City, CA. This comprehensive

>>> review of the many dangers associated with milk consumption

>>> appearing in a weekend newspaper indicated to me that the

>>> topic had become mainstream. This information has been in

>>> print for almost two decades yet uninformed and misinformed

>>> health providers continue to tout the benefits of dairy

>>> products!

>>>

>>> While writing the third revision of my book, Having Twins

>>> and More (with a large chapter on nutrition), I had more

>>> conversations with my publisher's attorney concerning my

>>> News for Milkaholics than any other topic in the book.

>>> The publisher feared litigation since more than a dozen

>>> states have a Agricultural Libel Law allowing prosecution

>>> for disaparaging agricultural products. This growing

>>> legislation was a result of the suit against Oprah

>>> Winfrey by the Texas Cattlemen's Association after she

>>> vowed on her TV show she would never eat another hamburger.

>>> Of course, if one sticks to the medical evidence (and there

>>> is plenty of it?and growing) there is no libel.

>>>

>>> Latest to come along in 2005, is The Milk Imperative

>>> (www.milkmperative.com) by Eaton in the UK with 60

>>> pages on how to make alternative milks from various nuts.

>>> Eaton's contribution is a theory that bone-making cells

>>> (osteoblasts) are eroded by too much exercise, dietary

>>> calcium and Vitamin D. I have been puzzled for many years

>>> by the evidence that greater bone density does not mean

>>> less risk of osteoporosis. As a PT, I know that the BMD

>>> scans do not measure collagen, muscle strength nor balance.

>>> Fluoride, for example, makes bones denser but also more

>>> brittle leading to more, not fewer fractures.

>>>

>>> Dr. Steve Cummings and Dr. Warren Browner at California

>>> Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco are researching

>>> osteoprotegerin, a hormone involved in digesting the

>>> calciumcontaining mineral of old bone in need of repair.

>>> Perhaps it is be involved with or a marker for, vascular

>>> calcification that leads to hardening of the arteries

>>> and cardiovascular mortality. Cummings has pointed out

>>> problems with BMD scans including inaccuracies and the

>>> cavalier creation of the term 'osteopenia'. He also noted

>>> that inability to rise from a chair without use of arms

>>> equalled maternal history as a risk factor for a hip

>>> fracture. Imagine if we could rise from a squat as we did

>>> in childhood, and Asians still do? With far fewer osteo

>>> and ortho problems as a result!

>>>

>>> The latest 'study' I have read, I am ashamed to say, is

>>> from my home country, Australia. Title: Calcium- and

>>> Vitamin D3-Fortified Milk Reduces Bone Loss at Clinically

>>> Relevant Skeletal Sites in Older Men: A 2-Year Randomized

>>> Controlled Trial by Robin Daly, et al was published in

>>> J Bone Miner Res, (March 2006;21:397-405).

>>>

>>> I dispute their claim that a short-term increase in

>>> bone density translates into a " nutritionally sound

>>> strategy to reduce agerelated bone loss. " It is the

>>> long-term that is important. Furthermore, there are

>>> many additional problems caused by lowfat milk that

>>> were not addressed at all. (Farmers fatten their hogs

>>> with low-fat milk, and humans consume more of it since

>>> they feel they are safe from fat, but actually ingest

>>> more calories from the carbohydrates!).

>>>

>>> For ischemic heart disease, milk carbohydrates were

>>> found to have the highest statistical association for

>>> males aged 35+ and females aged 65+. In the case of

>>> coronary heart disease, non-fat milk was found to have

>>> the highest association for males aged 45+ and females

>>> aged 75+, while for females 65-74, milk carbohydrates

>>> and sugar had the highest associations. (Alternative

>>> Medicine Review, 1998 Aug, 3:4). The Townsend Medical

>>> Letter, Harvard School of Public Health, and n

>>> Whitaker, MD have all admitted that milk causes many

>>> health problems. Of course, if milk is a problem, then

>>> cheese (12 pints are needed to make one pound) and

>>> ice-cream (10 pints to make one pound) are worse for

>>> being more concentrated.

>>>

>>> Cow's milk is for calves. Humans need breast milk to

>>> thrive, indeed they will develop 10 more IQ points.

>>> The challenge is to create opportunities for American

>>> mothers to breastfeed, especially while working, as

>>> Scandinavia has done. Few epidemiologists take a history

>>> of breastfeeding when looking at adult diseases; an

>>> exception to this is the work of Michel Odent, MD, whose

>>> database can be searched at www.birthworks.com

>>>

>>> Most formula fed infants developed symptoms of allergic

>>> rejection to cow milk proteins before one month of age.

>>>

>>> About 50-70% experienced rashes or other skin symptoms,

>>>

>>> 50-60 percent gastrointestinal symptoms, and 20-30

>>> percent respiratory symptoms. The recommended therapy

>>> is to avoid cow's milk.

>>>

>>> Epidemiological and Immunological Aspects of Cow's Milk

>>> Protein Allergy and Intolerance in Infancy.

>>> Pediatric-Allergy-Immunology, August, 1994, 5(5 Suppl.)

>>>

>>> " Overall, about 75% of the world's population, including

>>> 25% of those in the U.S., lose their lactase enzymes

>>> after weaning. Lactose malabsorption and lactase

>>> deficiency are chronic organic pathologic conditions

>>> characterized by abdominal pain and distention,

>>> flatulence, and the passage of loose, watery stools.

>>> Once correct diagnosis is established, introduction

>>> of a lactose-free dietary regime relieves symptoms in

>>> most patients...who remain largely unaware of the

>>> relationship between food intake and symptoms. "

>>>

>>> Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology, 1999 Apr, 28:3

>>>

>>> More than 50 diseases have been linked to the

>>> consumption of dairy products and lately there is much

>>> interest in the fact that those who suffered a previous

>>> heart attack are more likely to have osteoporosis than

>>> those who did not report a heart attack.

>>>

>>> The common link is harmful calcification that can

>>> result from regular consumption of dairy products. Kidney

>>> stones are another example, and most PTs have treated bone

>>> spurs, tendinitis and bursitis, perhaps without

>>> considering dietary causes. Breast and prostate cancer

>>> are known to begin as microcalcifications. The role of

>>> nanobacteria in such calcification is the latest theory

>>> and summarized in The Calcium Bomb www.calciumbomb.com

>>>

>>> The authors present research linking arthritis and heart

>>> disease, and review the role of excess calcium in many

>>> diseases, including osteoporosis. Nanobacteria are

>>> postulated as the cause of the inflammation and although

>>> tetracycline can destroy them, first their calcium

>>> coating must be dissolved.

>>>

>>> How can people, especially women, accept that they

>>> probably have too much calcium (typically in the form of

>>> dairy products) when they are being told on all sides to

>>> add supplements as well?

>>>

>>> The 12-year Harvard study of 78,000 adult women found

>>> that those who drank milk three times a day actually

>>> broke more bones than women who rarely drank milk. In

>>> countries like the the US, Australia, Scandinavia and E

>>> urope where dairy product consumption is among the

>>> highest in the world, osteoporosis and fracture rates

>>> are also among the highest. By the same token the

>>> incidence is low among the Chinese and Japanese whose

>>> traditional diets contain no dairy products at all.

>>> (Sadly, that is changing, in Tokyo, I saw Haagen Dazs

>>> ice cream for sale and bottled coffee milk in automats

>>> on train station platforms). Prior to the US occupation

>>> of Japan after the war, breast cancer was conspicuous

>>> by its absence among the Japanese, but is now increasing

>>> every year. The benefits of the Chinese diet were

>>> revealed during the China-Cornell-Oxford project by

>>> T. Colin . He grew up on a dairy farm, studied

>>> veterinary science and thus had every reason to believe

>>> that milk was 'Nature's perfect food' until his research

>>> proved that wrong.

>>>

>>> We eat more than we exercise, all of us. Thus while both

>>> are important for health, diet (what we eat) and nutrition

>>> (what we absorb) is critical. Our weapons of mass

>>> destruction are the knife and fork!

>>>

>>> According to the US Department of Agriculture, the average

>>> American consumes more than 550 pounds of dairy products

>>> annually; 40% of the diet and providing 52% of daily caloric

>>> intake.

>>>

>>> Sadly, our degenerative diseases are increasing in

>>> developing countries as they copy our bad habits. I

>>> personally have observed these changes since I first

>>> travelled in Asia in the sixties. During my recent

>>> travels in francophone West Africa, I Was dismayed by

>>> large billboards on the dirt roads exhorting the

>>> benefits of dairy products.The ads even depict boys

>>> with more muscles, like some of the Milk Mustache

>>> posters. However, noone in Africa received the $25,000

>>> to pose with the white smear Like the US celebrities,

>>> such as Donna Shalala who apparently didn't regard that

>>> as a conflict of interest!)

>>>

>>> In January of this year, an extensive study by the National

>>> Institute for Research in Reproductive Health showed that

>>> an estimated 61 million Indians suffer from osteoporosis.

>>> The World Health Organization (WHO) states that one out

>>> of eight males and one out of three females in India

>>> suffer from osteoporosis. This has resulted from the

>>> recent and dramatic increase in milk consumption in India;

>>> it is the fastest growth market in the world in milk

>>> production and consumption. What should we do about this

>>> sacred cow?

>>>

>>> Firstly, ask all patients about their diets in general,

>>> and consumption of dairy products in particular. If you

>>> are treating them for one of the 50 plus conditions

>>> (see www.notmilk.com for an alphabetical list), then

>>> suggest they give up all dairy products for a couple of

>>> weeks. Not even a drop in tea or coffee! It is the bovine

>>> proteins that are usually more troublesome than the lactose.

>>>

>>> I found it strange that during the Mad Cow disease scare in

>>> Europe that citizens drank the milk and other dairy products

>>> of these cows, apparently unconcerned about the path those

>>> prions might take!

>>>

>>> Fortunately, in the USA today there are many milk

>>> substitutes since most recipe, it seems, s call for a dairy

>>> products. Soy milk sales are huge (and the dairy companies

>>> are part of this growing market, too). Make sure you have

>>> organic soy milk from non-genetically modified soybeans.

>>> You can substitute rice milk, amasake (also made from rice)

>>> and many other kinds of " milk " you can make yourself from

>>> nuts. Or you can simply eat a healthy diet without dairy

>>> products or their substitutes, as does the world's most

>>> populous country (China) and my family. Bon appetit!

>>>

>>> References:

>>> Appleton, , Building Better Bones. Wayne, NJ: Avery, 1990.

>>>

>>> Brown. , Ph.D. Better Bones, Better Bodies. New Canaan, CT:

>>> Keats,

>>> 1996.

>>>

>>> , Colin T and M , II, The China

>>> Study: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever

>>>

>>> Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss

>>>

>>> and Long-Term Health. Dallas,, TX: Benballa, 2005

>>>

>>> Cohen, . Milk A-Z Argus Publishing, PO Box 229,

>>>

>>> Oradell, NJ 07649, (201-967-7001).2001

>>> ______________Milk: The Deadly Poison. Oradell, NJ: Argus,

>>>

>>> 1997.

>>>

>>> Colbin, AnneMarie. Food and our Bones. New York: Plume, 1998.

>>>

>>> ____________ Food and Healing. Ballantine Books, NY1996. Cummings SR,

>>> Nevitt MC, Browner WS, et al. Risk factors for hip fracture in white

>>> women.

>>> N Engl J Med 1995; 332: 767-773.

>>>

>>> Eaton, . The Milk Imperative. Deliveredonline.com,

>>>

>>> 2005 (www.milkimperative.com)

>>>

>>> Kradjian, M. The Milk Letter : A Message To My Patients.

>>> Sunday New

>>> York Times Magazine, October 6, 2002 Laroche-Walter, Anne. Lait de

>>> Vache:

>>> Blancheur Trompeuse, Geneva: Editions Jouvence, 1998.

>>>

>>> Mulhall , and Katja Hansen. The Calcium Bomb, The

>>>

>>> Writers Collective, Cranston, RI

>>> Noble, E. Having Twins?and More, 3rd edition, Boston:

>>>

>>> Houghton Mifflin, 2003.

>>>

>>> Nogier,D. Rapha묬 Ce Lait Qui Menace Les Femmes, 28, rue

>>>

>>> Comte-F鬩x-Gastaldi, Monaco: Editions du Rocher, 1994

>>>

>>> Oski, , M.D. Don?t Drink Your Milk: New Frightening

>>>

>>> Medical Facts About the World?s Most Overrated Nutrient.

>>>

>>> TEACH Services, Inc, Route 1, Box 182, Brushton, NY 12916.

>>>

>>> 1996.

>>>

>>> Resources

>>> http://www.birthworks.com/primalhealth/keywords.html (the

>>>

>>> database of Michel Odent, MD

>>>

>>> http://www.notmilk.com

>>>

>>> http://www.calciumbomb.com

>>>

>>> http://www.milkimperative.com

>>>

>>> http://www.milksucks.com

>>>

>>> http://www.nancyappleton.com

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.nutrition.cornell.edu/ChinaProject/

>>>

>>> Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, 5100

>>> Wisconsin Ave. N.W.Suite 404, Washington, D.C. 20016. (202)

>>> 686-2210.Much good information about diseases caused by dairy

>>> products can be found in their publication Good Medicine and

>>> the books of Neal Barnard, MD, one of the founders.

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>

>>> Cohen

>>> http://www.notmilk.com

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Hi Sunny,

I note some interesting correlations between this article and others

I've been reading about the effects of stress on human health.

Specifically, patients with diagnoses of marked anxiety and depression,

those recovering from addictions, those with cognitive dysfunctions

(alcoholics, drug addicts), those with closed head injuries, children

and adults with attention deficit disorders, and those with

fibromyalgia - are all statistically significant for low levels of

IGF-1, which leads to lowered bone densities, less muscle mass, and

negatively altered blood lipids. Could it be that consumption of cow's

milk laced with growth hormone oversupplies the body with that similar

compound inhibiting pituitary, etc. production of human GH and,

consequently, lowers IGF-1? It's my understanding that IGF-1 has a

mediating effect on growth hormone...

( " The insulin-like growth factor - 1 (IGF-1) test is an indirect

measure of the average amount of growth hormone (GH) being produced by

the body. IGF-1 and GH are peptide hormones, small proteins that are

vital for normal bone and tissue growth and development. GH is produced

by the pituitary (a grape-sized gland located at the base of the brain

behind the bridge of your nose) and secreted into the bloodstream in

pulses throughout the day and night with peaks that occur mostly during

the night. IGF-1 is produced, primarily in response to GH stimulation,

by the liver and some is also produced by skeletal muscles. It mediates

many of the actions of GH and so stimulates the growth of bones and

other tissues and promotes the production of lean muscle mass. IGF-1

mirrors GH excesses and deficiencies, but its level is stable

throughout the day, making it a useful indicator of average GH levels.

Like GH, IGF-1 levels normally are low in early childhood, increase

gradually during childhood, peak during puberty, and then decline in

adult life. Deficiencies in GH and IGF-1 may be caused by conditions

such as hypopituitarism (hypothalamic-pituitary disease; resulting in a

general lack of GH production by the pituitary) or the presence of a

non-GH-producing pituitary tumor that damages hormone-producing cells.

Deficiencies in IGF-1 also occur where there is a lack of

responsiveness to GH (GH Insensitivity; GHI). GHI may be primary

(genetic) or secondary to conditions such as malnutrition and chronic

diseases.

Deficiencies early in life can inhibit bone growth and overall

development and can result in a child with a shorter than normal

stature. While levels of GH and IGF-1 are not as high in adults as in

children, they do play a continuing role in regulating bone density,

muscle mass, and lipid metabolism. Therefore, decreased production can

lead to low bone densities, less muscle mass, and altered lipids.... "

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/igf1/sample.html>)

If this is the case, that IGF-1 decreases are compounded by milk

drinking, then the negative effects from milk may not be solely

obstructive from calcification.

(More than 50 diseases have been linked to the

consumption of dairy products and lately there is much

interest in the fact that those who suffered a previous

heart attack are more likely to have osteoporosis than

those who did not report a heart attack.

The common link is harmful calcification that can

result from regular consumption of dairy products....)

Just an interesting connection...

Sears

PDX

On Apr 17, 2006, at 10:00 AM, sunny Kierstyn wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

>> Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon

>> 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

>>

>> Eugene, Oregon, 97401

>>

>> 541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

>>> From: " Cohen " <notmilk@...>

>>>

>>> Reply-notmilk-owner

>>>

>>> notmilk

>>>

>>> Subject: NOTMILK - Rehabilitating Patients with Notmilk

>>>

>>> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:20:38 -0000

>>>

>>> Rehabilitating Patients with Notmilk

>>>

>>>

>>> It is quite refreshing to find an anti-milk article

>>>

>>> on a rehabilitation website. What a joy! The following

>>>

>>> article is posted (right-side of page under Featured

>>>

>>> Articles) at:

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.rehabedge.com

>>>

>>>

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>

>>> Milk Can Kill by Noble, PT

>>>

>>>

>>> Educate yourself and your patients that

>>>

>>> milk does NOT do the body good!

>>>

>>>

>>> When I started the SOWH in the mid-seventies,

>>>

>>> osteoporosis was not the common, deadly disease

>>>

>>> it is today (hip fractures are the 12th leading

>>>

>>> course of death). As a student in Australia

>>>

>>> during the decade before, osteoporosis was

>>>

>>> diagnosed only after a fracture caused by

>>>

>>> minimal trauma (e.g. falling from standing).

>>>

>>> Bone mineral density (BMD) scans had not been

>>>

>>> developed and I am not sure we were worse off

>>>

>>> without them (more on that subject later).

>>>

>>>

>>> To consider the consumption of dairy products as the

>>>

>>> culprit, not the cure or prevention of osteoporosis is

>>>

>>> to attack a very sacred cow for families, and also for

>>>

>>> the Big Business of dairy products. And osteoporosis is

>>>

>>> only part of the problem...

>>>

>>>

>>> Those of us who have observed the food trays of

>>>

>>> hospital inpatients can conclude that most dieticians,

>>>

>>> despite 4 years of formal education, have not kept

>>>

>>> current with the medical evidence. Exceptions include

>>>

>>> Appleton, Building Better Bones (1990) who also

>>>

>>> sells a test kit on her web site. Brown is another

>>>

>>> enlightened nutritionist who wrote Better Bones, Better

>>>

>>> Bodies in 1996.

>>>

>>>

>>> In 1992 Oski, Jr., who was chief of Pedatrics at

>>>

>>> s Hopkins wrote Don't Drink Your Milk: New Frightening

>>>

>>> Medical Facts About the World?s Most Overrated Nutrient.

>>>

>>> He had already linked milk consumption with juvenile

>>>

>>> diabetes and claimed that at least 50% of all children in

>>>

>>> the United States are allergic to milk, many undiagnosed,

>>>

>>> suffering among other ailments, constipation, diarrhea,

>>>

>>> and fatigue. Oski considered dairy products the leading

>>>

>>> cause of food allergy and advised against drinking milk

>>>

>>> or eating dairy products for all ages. Many cases of

>>>

>>> asthma and sinus infections, he found, were eliminated

>>>

>>> by cutting out dairy products.

>>>

>>>

>>> Another, better known, pediatrician Spock, in the

>>>

>>> 7th edition of his Child Care, admitted that " research has

>>>

>>> forced us to rethink this recommendation...dairy products

>>>

>>> contribute to a surprising number of health problems... "

>>>

>>> Then in 1997 Cohen, published Milk: The Deadly

>>>

>>> Poison, an expose of Monsanto's greed in causing Bovine

>>>

>>> Somatrotropin (BST-genetically engineered bovine growth

>>>

>>> hormone or rbGH) to be added to America's milk supply

>>>

>>> since 1994. Cohen created the Dairy Education Board in

>>>

>>> the midnineties and one could spend days exploring the

>>>

>>> extensive citations on his website: www.notmilk.com

>>>

>>>

>>> To understand ailments ranging from cancer to childhood

>>>

>>> obesity (many kids today even look bovine!) one must bear in

>>>

>>> mind that cows and humans share the same hormone, insulin-

>>>

>>> like growth factor, or IGF-1. Each sip of milk contains

>>>

>>> that growth hormone. Both human and cow's milk contain

>>>

>>> 70 amino acids in identical sequence. The injection of

>>>

>>> Monsanto's government-permitted poison into the cows

>>>

>>> increases the growth hormone in each sip of milk by 80%.

>>>

>>>

>>> In 1998, I picked up a French book by Anne Laroche-Walter:

>>>

>>>

>>> Lait de Vache: Blancheur Trompeuse, which translates as

>>>

>>> " Cow's milk: White Trickster " . following a 1994 publication,

>>>

>>> Ce Lait Qui Menace Les Femmes (This Milk that Threatens Women,

>>>

>>> by D. Rapha Nogier, who describes how drinking milk influences

>>>

>>> the preponderance of breast cancer. In 2001, Cohen

>>>

>>> published Milk: A-Z which is a book of cartoon illustrations

>>>

>>> on the right-hand page, and medical citations for the

>>>

>>> particular malady (e.g., asthma, zits) on the lefthand page.

>>>

>>> I highly recommend this book for your waiting room since

>>>

>>> patients can quickly look up an ailment. Children, always

>>>

>>> the target of noxious advertising, will be entertained by

>>>

>>> the drawings.

>>>

>>>

>>> In 2003, THE MILK LETTER : A MESSAGE TO MY

>>>

>>> PATIENTS was published in the Sunday New York Times

>>>

>>> Magazine, October 6, 2002 by M. Kradjian, MD,

>>>

>>> Breast Surgery Chief, Division of General Surgery at

>>>

>>> Seton Medical Centre in Daly City, CA. This comprehensive

>>>

>>> review of the many dangers associated with milk consumption

>>>

>>> appearing in a weekend newspaper indicated to me that the

>>>

>>> topic had become mainstream. This information has been in

>>>

>>> print for almost two decades yet uninformed and misinformed

>>>

>>> health providers continue to tout the benefits of dairy

>>>

>>> products!

>>>

>>>

>>> While writing the third revision of my book, Having Twins

>>>

>>> and More (with a large chapter on nutrition), I had more

>>>

>>> conversations with my publisher's attorney concerning my

>>>

>>> News for Milkaholics than any other topic in the book.

>>>

>>> The publisher feared litigation since more than a dozen

>>>

>>> states have a Agricultural Libel Law allowing prosecution

>>>

>>> for disaparaging agricultural products. This growing

>>>

>>> legislation was a result of the suit against Oprah

>>>

>>> Winfrey by the Texas Cattlemen's Association after she

>>>

>>> vowed on her TV show she would never eat another hamburger.

>>>

>>> Of course, if one sticks to the medical evidence (and there

>>>

>>> is plenty of it?and growing) there is no libel.

>>>

>>>

>>> Latest to come along in 2005, is The Milk Imperative

>>>

>>> (www.milkmperative.com) by Eaton in the UK with 60

>>>

>>> pages on how to make alternative milks from various nuts.

>>>

>>> Eaton's contribution is a theory that bone-making cells

>>>

>>> (osteoblasts) are eroded by too much exercise, dietary

>>>

>>> calcium and Vitamin D. I have been puzzled for many years

>>>

>>> by the evidence that greater bone density does not mean

>>>

>>> less risk of osteoporosis. As a PT, I know that the BMD

>>>

>>> scans do not measure collagen, muscle strength nor balance.

>>>

>>> Fluoride, for example, makes bones denser but also more

>>>

>>> brittle leading to more, not fewer fractures.

>>>

>>>

>>> Dr. Steve Cummings and Dr. Warren Browner at California

>>>

>>> Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco are researching

>>>

>>> osteoprotegerin, a hormone involved in digesting the

>>>

>>> calciumcontaining mineral of old bone in need of repair.

>>>

>>> Perhaps it is be involved with or a marker for, vascular

>>>

>>> calcification that leads to hardening of the arteries

>>>

>>> and cardiovascular mortality. Cummings has pointed out

>>>

>>> problems with BMD scans including inaccuracies and the

>>>

>>> cavalier creation of the term 'osteopenia'. He also noted

>>>

>>> that inability to rise from a chair without use of arms

>>>

>>> equalled maternal history as a risk factor for a hip

>>>

>>> fracture. Imagine if we could rise from a squat as we did

>>>

>>> in childhood, and Asians still do? With far fewer osteo

>>>

>>> and ortho problems as a result!

>>>

>>>

>>> The latest 'study' I have read, I am ashamed to say, is

>>>

>>> from my home country, Australia. Title: Calcium- and

>>>

>>> Vitamin D3-Fortified Milk Reduces Bone Loss at Clinically

>>>

>>> Relevant Skeletal Sites in Older Men: A 2-Year Randomized

>>>

>>> Controlled Trial by Robin Daly, et al was published in

>>>

>>> J Bone Miner Res, (March 2006;21:397-405).

>>>

>>>

>>> I dispute their claim that a short-term increase in

>>>

>>> bone density translates into a " nutritionally sound

>>>

>>> strategy to reduce agerelated bone loss. " It is the

>>>

>>> long-term that is important. Furthermore, there are

>>>

>>> many additional problems caused by lowfat milk that

>>>

>>> were not addressed at all. (Farmers fatten their hogs

>>>

>>> with low-fat milk, and humans consume more of it since

>>>

>>> they feel they are safe from fat, but actually ingest

>>>

>>> more calories from the carbohydrates!).

>>>

>>>

>>> For ischemic heart disease, milk carbohydrates were

>>>

>>> found to have the highest statistical association for

>>>

>>> males aged 35+ and females aged 65+. In the case of

>>>

>>> coronary heart disease, non-fat milk was found to have

>>>

>>> the highest association for males aged 45+ and females

>>>

>>> aged 75+, while for females 65-74, milk carbohydrates

>>>

>>> and sugar had the highest associations. (Alternative

>>>

>>> Medicine Review, 1998 Aug, 3:4). The Townsend Medical

>>>

>>> Letter, Harvard School of Public Health, and n

>>>

>>> Whitaker, MD have all admitted that milk causes many

>>>

>>> health problems. Of course, if milk is a problem, then

>>>

>>> cheese (12 pints are needed to make one pound) and

>>>

>>> ice-cream (10 pints to make one pound) are worse for

>>>

>>> being more concentrated.

>>>

>>>

>>> Cow's milk is for calves. Humans need breast milk to

>>>

>>> thrive, indeed they will develop 10 more IQ points.

>>>

>>> The challenge is to create opportunities for American

>>>

>>> mothers to breastfeed, especially while working, as

>>>

>>> Scandinavia has done. Few epidemiologists take a history

>>>

>>> of breastfeeding when looking at adult diseases; an

>>>

>>> exception to this is the work of Michel Odent, MD, whose

>>>

>>> database can be searched at www.birthworks.com

>>>

>>>

>>> Most formula fed infants developed symptoms of allergic

>>>

>>> rejection to cow milk proteins before one month of age.

>>>

>>>

>>> About 50-70% experienced rashes or other skin symptoms,

>>>

>>>

>>> 50-60 percent gastrointestinal symptoms, and 20-30

>>>

>>> percent respiratory symptoms. The recommended therapy

>>>

>>> is to avoid cow's milk.

>>>

>>>

>>> Epidemiological and Immunological Aspects of Cow's Milk

>>>

>>> Protein Allergy and Intolerance in Infancy.

>>>

>>> Pediatric-Allergy-Immunology, August, 1994, 5(5 Suppl.)

>>>

>>>

>>> " Overall, about 75% of the world's population, including

>>>

>>> 25% of those in the U.S., lose their lactase enzymes

>>>

>>> after weaning. Lactose malabsorption and lactase

>>>

>>> deficiency are chronic organic pathologic conditions

>>>

>>> characterized by abdominal pain and distention,

>>>

>>> flatulence, and the passage of loose, watery stools.

>>>

>>> Once correct diagnosis is established, introduction

>>>

>>> of a lactose-free dietary regime relieves symptoms in

>>>

>>> most patients...who remain largely unaware of the

>>>

>>> relationship between food intake and symptoms. "

>>>

>>>

>>> Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology, 1999 Apr, 28:3

>>>

>>>

>>> More than 50 diseases have been linked to the

>>>

>>> consumption of dairy products and lately there is much

>>>

>>> interest in the fact that those who suffered a previous

>>>

>>> heart attack are more likely to have osteoporosis than

>>>

>>> those who did not report a heart attack.

>>>

>>>

>>> The common link is harmful calcification that can

>>>

>>> result from regular consumption of dairy products. Kidney

>>>

>>> stones are another example, and most PTs have treated bone

>>>

>>> spurs, tendinitis and bursitis, perhaps without

>>>

>>> considering dietary causes. Breast and prostate cancer

>>>

>>> are known to begin as microcalcifications. The role of

>>>

>>> nanobacteria in such calcification is the latest theory

>>>

>>> and summarized in The Calcium Bomb www.calciumbomb.com

>>>

>>>

>>> The authors present research linking arthritis and heart

>>>

>>> disease, and review the role of excess calcium in many

>>>

>>> diseases, including osteoporosis. Nanobacteria are

>>>

>>> postulated as the cause of the inflammation and although

>>>

>>> tetracycline can destroy them, first their calcium

>>>

>>> coating must be dissolved.

>>>

>>>

>>> How can people, especially women, accept that they

>>>

>>> probably have too much calcium (typically in the form of

>>>

>>> dairy products) when they are being told on all sides to

>>>

>>> add supplements as well?

>>>

>>>

>>> The 12-year Harvard study of 78,000 adult women found

>>>

>>> that those who drank milk three times a day actually

>>>

>>> broke more bones than women who rarely drank milk. In

>>>

>>> countries like the the US, Australia, Scandinavia and E

>>>

>>> urope where dairy product consumption is among the

>>>

>>> highest in the world, osteoporosis and fracture rates

>>>

>>> are also among the highest. By the same token the

>>>

>>> incidence is low among the Chinese and Japanese whose

>>>

>>> traditional diets contain no dairy products at all.

>>>

>>> (Sadly, that is changing, in Tokyo, I saw Haagen Dazs

>>>

>>> ice cream for sale and bottled coffee milk in automats

>>>

>>> on train station platforms). Prior to the US occupation

>>>

>>> of Japan after the war, breast cancer was conspicuous

>>>

>>> by its absence among the Japanese, but is now increasing

>>>

>>> every year. The benefits of the Chinese diet were

>>>

>>> revealed during the China-Cornell-Oxford project by

>>>

>>> T. Colin . He grew up on a dairy farm, studied

>>>

>>> veterinary science and thus had every reason to believe

>>>

>>> that milk was 'Nature's perfect food' until his research

>>>

>>> proved that wrong.

>>>

>>>

>>> We eat more than we exercise, all of us. Thus while both

>>>

>>> are important for health, diet (what we eat) and nutrition

>>>

>>> (what we absorb) is critical. Our weapons of mass

>>>

>>> destruction are the knife and fork!

>>>

>>>

>>> According to the US Department of Agriculture, the average

>>>

>>> American consumes more than 550 pounds of dairy products

>>>

>>> annually; 40% of the diet and providing 52% of daily caloric

>>>

>>> intake.

>>>

>>>

>>> Sadly, our degenerative diseases are increasing in

>>>

>>> developing countries as they copy our bad habits. I

>>>

>>> personally have observed these changes since I first

>>>

>>> travelled in Asia in the sixties. During my recent

>>>

>>> travels in francophone West Africa, I Was dismayed by

>>>

>>> large billboards on the dirt roads exhorting the

>>>

>>> benefits of dairy products.The ads even depict boys

>>>

>>> with more muscles, like some of the Milk Mustache

>>>

>>> posters. However, noone in Africa received the $25,000

>>>

>>> to pose with the white smear Like the US celebrities,

>>>

>>> such as Donna Shalala who apparently didn't regard that

>>>

>>> as a conflict of interest!)

>>>

>>>

>>> In January of this year, an extensive study by the National

>>>

>>> Institute for Research in Reproductive Health showed that

>>>

>>> an estimated 61 million Indians suffer from osteoporosis.

>>>

>>> The World Health Organization (WHO) states that one out

>>>

>>> of eight males and one out of three females in India

>>>

>>> suffer from osteoporosis. This has resulted from the

>>>

>>> recent and dramatic increase in milk consumption in India;

>>>

>>> it is the fastest growth market in the world in milk

>>>

>>> production and consumption. What should we do about this

>>>

>>> sacred cow?

>>>

>>>

>>> Firstly, ask all patients about their diets in general,

>>>

>>> and consumption of dairy products in particular. If you

>>>

>>> are treating them for one of the 50 plus conditions

>>>

>>> (see www.notmilk.com for an alphabetical list), then

>>>

>>> suggest they give up all dairy products for a couple of

>>>

>>> weeks. Not even a drop in tea or coffee! It is the bovine

>>>

>>> proteins that are usually more troublesome than the lactose.

>>>

>>>

>>> I found it strange that during the Mad Cow disease scare in

>>>

>>> Europe that citizens drank the milk and other dairy products

>>>

>>> of these cows, apparently unconcerned about the path those

>>>

>>> prions might take!

>>>

>>>

>>> Fortunately, in the USA today there are many milk

>>>

>>> substitutes since most recipe, it seems, s call for a dairy

>>>

>>> products. Soy milk sales are huge (and the dairy companies

>>>

>>> are part of this growing market, too). Make sure you have

>>>

>>> organic soy milk from non-genetically modified soybeans.

>>>

>>> You can substitute rice milk, amasake (also made from rice)

>>>

>>> and many other kinds of " milk " you can make yourself from

>>>

>>> nuts. Or you can simply eat a healthy diet without dairy

>>>

>>> products or their substitutes, as does the world's most

>>>

>>> populous country (China) and my family. Bon appetit!

>>>

>>>

>>> References:

>>>

>>> Appleton, , Building Better Bones. Wayne, NJ: Avery, 1990.

>>>

>>>

>>> Brown. , Ph.D. Better Bones, Better Bodies. New Canaan, CT:

>>>

>>> Keats,

>>>

>>> 1996.

>>>

>>>

>>> , Colin T and M , II, The China

>>>

>>> Study: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever

>>>

>>>

>>> Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss

>>>

>>>

>>> and Long-Term Health. Dallas,, TX: Benballa, 2005

>>>

>>>

>>> Cohen, . Milk A-Z Argus Publishing, PO Box 229,

>>>

>>>

>>> Oradell, NJ 07649, (201-967-7001).2001

>>>

>>> ______________Milk: The Deadly Poison. Oradell, NJ: Argus,

>>>

>>>

>>> 1997.

>>>

>>>

>>> Colbin, AnneMarie. Food and our Bones. New York: Plume, 1998.

>>>

>>>

>>> ____________ Food and Healing. Ballantine Books, NY1996. Cummings SR,

>>>

>>> Nevitt MC, Browner WS, et al. Risk factors for hip fracture in white

>>>

>>> women.

>>>

>>> N Engl J Med 1995; 332: 767-773.

>>>

>>>

>>> Eaton, . The Milk Imperative. Deliveredonline.com,

>>>

>>>

>>> 2005 (www.milkimperative.com)

>>>

>>>

>>> Kradjian, M. The Milk Letter : A Message To My Patients.

>>>

>>> Sunday New

>>>

>>> York Times Magazine, October 6, 2002 Laroche-Walter, Anne. Lait de

>>>

>>> Vache:

>>>

>>> Blancheur Trompeuse, Geneva: Editions Jouvence, 1998.

>>>

>>>

>>> Mulhall , and Katja Hansen. The Calcium Bomb, The

>>>

>>>

>>> Writers Collective, Cranston, RI

>>>

>>> Noble, E. Having Twins?and More, 3rd edition, Boston:

>>>

>>>

>>> Houghton Mifflin, 2003.

>>>

>>>

>>> Nogier,D. Rapha묬 Ce Lait Qui Menace Les Femmes, 28, rue

>>>

>>>

>>> Comte-F鬩x-Gastaldi, Monaco: Editions du Rocher, 1994

>>>

>>>

>>> Oski, , M.D. Don?t Drink Your Milk: New Frightening

>>>

>>>

>>> Medical Facts About the World?s Most Overrated Nutrient.

>>>

>>>

>>> TEACH Services, Inc, Route 1, Box 182, Brushton, NY 12916.

>>>

>>>

>>> 1996.

>>>

>>>

>>> Resources

>>>

>>> http://www.birthworks.com/primalhealth/keywords.html (the

>>>

>>>

>>> database of Michel Odent, MD

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.notmilk.com

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.calciumbomb.com

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.milkimperative.com

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.milksucks.com

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.nancyappleton.com

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.nutrition.cornell.edu/ChinaProject/

>>>

>>>

>>> Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, 5100

>>>

>>> Wisconsin Ave. N.W.Suite 404, Washington, D.C. 20016. (202)

>>>

>>> 686-2210.Much good information about diseases caused by dairy

>>>

>>> products can be found in their publication Good Medicine and

>>>

>>> the books of Neal Barnard, MD, one of the founders.

>>>

>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>>

>>>

>>> Cohen

>>>

>>> http://www.notmilk.com

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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In a message dated 4/17/2006 12:20:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, dm.bones@... writes:

Could it be that consumption of cow's

milk laced with growth hormone oversupplies the body with that similar

compound inhibiting pituitary, etc. production of human GH and,

consequently, lowers IGF-1? It's my understanding that IGF-1 has a

mediating effect on growth hormone...

The answer is no. GH actually causes IGF-1 levels to rise. GH is produced in the pituitary and when it stimulates the liver it causes an INCREASE in IGF-1 (link: http://www.cushings-help.com/igf1.htm). Also it is one of cohen's contentions (cohen is the guy who writes the things that Sunny reposts) that milk is chock full of IGF-1 (link: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html). So in actuality and by cohen's own admission milk should elevate IGF-1. I appreciate your reasoning and your use of scientific literature, but based on the ideas you present (that low IGF-1 may be causally linked to depression, ADHD, alcoholism etc) than by all means milk should HELP these conditions. I may do a literature search and see if anything has been done in this. Its interesting.

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In a message dated 4/18/2006 4:25:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time, skrndc1@... writes:

Watch out for being so biased about one researcher's methods that you miss the message

Good caution, I will try and keep it in mind

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In a message dated 4/18/2006 2:45:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, dm.bones@... writes:

"HGF-1 levels are low in a lot of conditions that are stress-based, and 

low levels of HG (and HGF-1) lead to loss of bone density, loss of lean 

muscle mass, and lipid profile problems associated with CVD and insulin 

resistant syndromes (IRS), many of the same conditions reported in milk 

drinkers (from Sunny's review).

In this light, isn't it reasonable to assume that milk drinking may be

another stress to the system contributing to further decreases in

HGF-1?"

IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor type 1) is produced when the liver is stimulated by growth hormone (somatamedin). Many anti-milk people claim that the BGH (Bovine growth hormone) in milk will act like hGH (human growth hormone) in humans. However human and bovine growth hormone differ in the number of amino acids and so many claim that this is not so since human GH is specific for humans - it seems the jury is still out. IGF-1 is linked to growth of tissues (like bone - that is why acromegaly is caused by elevated hGH levels). It is linked tocertain cancers like colon and prostate.

Since milk is high in IGF-1 many claim it causes cancer ( http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/general/milk.htm). However others claim it does not ( http://www.igf-1-and-milk.com/). It is no secret that some dairy farmers have tried to use somatomedin to increase milk production -but the dairy farmers I have spoken with say they don't - the main reason is the stuff is very expensive. Its not worth a few more gallons. IGF-1 is another amino acid peptide protein - which raises the question of does it pass the digestive tract. Since the digestive tract tends to hydrolyze proteins into smaller pieces, many say it does not - again I think the jury is out on the subject. I can find no studies indicating that milk increases human growth hormone or IGF-1 - although milk is high in IGF-1 - especially that of cows treated with somatomedin.

The idea of "isn;t it logical to assume" may not be the best way to determine this - first we must assume that milk drinking is a stress (babies look so stressed don't they?), we must also assume that milk is causing things like low bone density when in actuality most studies show it increases bone density. Also hGH causes an insulin resistant state - it increases lipolysis and increases insulin resistence - so it is not logical or reasonable to assume low hGH or IGF-1 is associated with insulin resistant problems, since the opposite is true - hGH increases blood sugar as it causes insulin resistence. The basic science of hGH is that it increases fat utilization and reduces sugar utilization (insulin resistence) - that is the basic mechanism of how it works. SO no I would have to say it is not logical to assume this.

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Hi Lindsey,

Thanks for pointing out that it's IGF-1 (somatomedin) and not HGF-1

(somatotropin) that is stressing those babies.

" IGF-1 levels are low in a lot of conditions that are stress-based,

and 

low levels of IGF-1 lead to loss of bone density, loss of lean 

muscle mass, and lipid profile problems associated with CVD and

insulin 

resistant syndromes (IRS), many of the same conditions reported in

milk 

drinkers (from Sunny's review).

In this light, isn't it reasonable to assume that milk drinking may be 

another stress to the system contributing to further decreases in 

IGF-1? "

There, that's better...

Sears

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:46:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, dm.bones@... writes:

Thanks for pointing out that it's IGF-1 (somatomedin) and not HGF-1

(somatotropin) that is stressing those babies.

Actually I think I made a mistake in calling HGH somatamedin. IGF-1 is somatamedin C and HGH is somatotropin. I don't think HGF-1 is a endogenously produced hormone - I think it is a homeopathic remedy???

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Man, you guys got me feeling pretty dumb about now ;)

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In a message dated 4/19/2006 12:46:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time, dm.bones@... writes:

Thanks for pointing out that it's IGF-1 (somatomedin) and not HGF-1 (somatotropin) that is stressing those babies.Actually I think I made a mistake in calling HGH somatamedin. IGF-1 is somatamedin C and HGH is somatotropin. I don't think HGF-1 is a endogenously produced hormone - I think it is a homeopathic remedy??? Anglen

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