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We just came back from Disneyworld and it was fantastic!!!! Sammy was

treated like a total VIP and its very easy. When you get there, go to the Magic

Kingdom and right near the beginning is Town Hall. Walk in, tell them you have

a

special needs child and they will give you a card that allows you to use the

fast-pass and handicap entrances. We never waited on any lines, Sammy was

allowed to go multiple times on his favorite rides without even getting off.

Because it was also his birthday, they gave him a button to wear and every

single time he passed a staff member or character, they all wished him a happy

birthday, strolling bands played " Happy Birthday " to him, he got private

audiences with his favorite characters (Woody and Stitch) and they gave him a

birthday card signed by Winnie the pooh, Tigger, Eeyoore and Piglet.

I could go on and on about how wonderful they were! Make sure you book a

breakfast with the characters. You can do that in advance by calling

reservations. The food was even fantastic. If you have any questions, just

ask, we

literally just flew in yesterday.

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We just came back from Disneyworld and it was fantastic!!!! Sammy was

treated like a total VIP and its very easy. When you get there, go to the Magic

Kingdom and right near the beginning is Town Hall. Walk in, tell them you have

a

special needs child and they will give you a card that allows you to use the

fast-pass and handicap entrances. We never waited on any lines, Sammy was

allowed to go multiple times on his favorite rides without even getting off.

Because it was also his birthday, they gave him a button to wear and every

single time he passed a staff member or character, they all wished him a happy

birthday, strolling bands played " Happy Birthday " to him, he got private

audiences with his favorite characters (Woody and Stitch) and they gave him a

birthday card signed by Winnie the pooh, Tigger, Eeyoore and Piglet.

I could go on and on about how wonderful they were! Make sure you book a

breakfast with the characters. You can do that in advance by calling

reservations. The food was even fantastic. If you have any questions, just

ask, we

literally just flew in yesterday.

,

Mom To a totally Disney Spoiled Sammy (11 DS) Can you believe it...11!!! OY

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I don't know about the special pass. We haven't needed one for . When are

you going? We will be there the end of this month!

Sharon H.

Mom to , (13, DS) and , (9)

South Carolina

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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I don't know about the special pass. We haven't needed one for . When are

you going? We will be there the end of this month!

Sharon H.

Mom to , (13, DS) and , (9)

South Carolina

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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Your Disney experience was far better than our Paris Disney experience.

Didn't see one Disney Character, the special pass was great although Trent

couldn't understand why I wasn't queuing up with everyone and kept walking

past the entrances. The one kiddie ride he wanted to go one, they would

allow him if I got on as well - except we both didn't fit in the ride - so

relented but wouldn't let him out until I was standing next to him - come on

he is 20 and I was within sight.

Jan, mother of Trent 20yo w/DS, from the Land DownUnder

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Your Disney experience was far better than our Paris Disney experience.

Didn't see one Disney Character, the special pass was great although Trent

couldn't understand why I wasn't queuing up with everyone and kept walking

past the entrances. The one kiddie ride he wanted to go one, they would

allow him if I got on as well - except we both didn't fit in the ride - so

relented but wouldn't let him out until I was standing next to him - come on

he is 20 and I was within sight.

Jan, mother of Trent 20yo w/DS, from the Land DownUnder

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---Bren LOVES Disney-When he was little we used his stroller and got

a wheelchair pass. We showed his handicapped placard from the car.

It basically allows you to wait in line with a stroller or

wheelchair. The hosts are so nice-they see the child and Come on

down! The get closer to the characters and special seating-get there

early enough got the parades-you can sit in the wheelchair section.

The characters make a special effort to gret these kids.

Bren is just about 12 now and when we went last year he is too big

for a carriage you rent there but not ready to put in a wheelchair.

We purchased a stroller from the durable medical equipment co. Our

ins paid for it. 1700.00 item but it will hold to 250 lbs.

Great for Bren because he really would not be able to cover the

whole park and repeat it for the other parks. I could hang his bag

on it, extra clothes, and a small cooler. No milk at Disney!

The hosts see you and escort you right to the handicapped openings.

Good in some cases but the HAunted House-you will miss a portion of

the ride if you go in the other entrance. So I would use the

stroller and wait in the line-if not too long. If they see you

getting a fast pass they moved us right along. O.K. for a small

group. They frown on large groups going ahead of everyone.

I never expect special tmt when we go but they are sooo nice.

I cannot say enough- I'm trying to take Bren and his sister this

year-my husband and 15 yr old are Disney'ed out! Have a ball!!

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---Bren LOVES Disney-When he was little we used his stroller and got

a wheelchair pass. We showed his handicapped placard from the car.

It basically allows you to wait in line with a stroller or

wheelchair. The hosts are so nice-they see the child and Come on

down! The get closer to the characters and special seating-get there

early enough got the parades-you can sit in the wheelchair section.

The characters make a special effort to gret these kids.

Bren is just about 12 now and when we went last year he is too big

for a carriage you rent there but not ready to put in a wheelchair.

We purchased a stroller from the durable medical equipment co. Our

ins paid for it. 1700.00 item but it will hold to 250 lbs.

Great for Bren because he really would not be able to cover the

whole park and repeat it for the other parks. I could hang his bag

on it, extra clothes, and a small cooler. No milk at Disney!

The hosts see you and escort you right to the handicapped openings.

Good in some cases but the HAunted House-you will miss a portion of

the ride if you go in the other entrance. So I would use the

stroller and wait in the line-if not too long. If they see you

getting a fast pass they moved us right along. O.K. for a small

group. They frown on large groups going ahead of everyone.

I never expect special tmt when we go but they are sooo nice.

I cannot say enough- I'm trying to take Bren and his sister this

year-my husband and 15 yr old are Disney'ed out! Have a ball!!

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I know Disney had changed their policy on the special needs passes and I

also know there was alot of slack from all over. Sounds like they are back

to how they were. I remember part of the problem was people who took

advantage of them (and if memory serves me correctly - it wasn't the DS

population that abused it). While many with DS may not need the pass, many

more do (probably more than those who don't). We definately would have to

have one and we'd have to get a wheelchair, too. It's going to be a few

more years before I go because I have to get these other kids through

college first. We'll have three this fall - even though Bran is getting

married in May, she's moving back home to finish school while Matt's on

deployment.

Besides the orthopedic issues some of our kids have and the behavioral

problems with waiting (and being over stimulated - an SI issue), many with

DS have low stamina. As gets older, I'm noticing this with him.

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I know Disney had changed their policy on the special needs passes and I

also know there was alot of slack from all over. Sounds like they are back

to how they were. I remember part of the problem was people who took

advantage of them (and if memory serves me correctly - it wasn't the DS

population that abused it). While many with DS may not need the pass, many

more do (probably more than those who don't). We definately would have to

have one and we'd have to get a wheelchair, too. It's going to be a few

more years before I go because I have to get these other kids through

college first. We'll have three this fall - even though Bran is getting

married in May, she's moving back home to finish school while Matt's on

deployment.

Besides the orthopedic issues some of our kids have and the behavioral

problems with waiting (and being over stimulated - an SI issue), many with

DS have low stamina. As gets older, I'm noticing this with him.

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We're going also from 3/16 to 3/22.

Kathy

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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We're going also from 3/16 to 3/22.

Kathy

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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We'll be there on the 26th. Too bad, we only miss you by a few days.

Have fun!!!!!

Sharon

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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We'll be there on the 26th. Too bad, we only miss you by a few days.

Have fun!!!!!

Sharon

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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Hi everyone

Just caught the info on people going to be in Disney World we should

look into meeting somewhere.. We are going to be there 3/17-27. Patty in

NM

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We're going also from 3/16 to 3/22.

Kathy

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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Hi everyone

Just caught the info on people going to be in Disney World we should

look into meeting somewhere.. We are going to be there 3/17-27. Patty in

NM

Re: Disney World special needs pass

We're going also from 3/16 to 3/22.

Kathy

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

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I have to wonder why you need a " special needs " pass for a child with DS

unless there are some further handicapping conditons.

My daughter went to Disney World a number of times. The only time we

had any special attention was when she went with her grandmother who

spent the day in a wheelchair. Jan stood in line for most things, but

if grandma could come along, she got in the short line. In Epcot at

with the Morocan dancers, she joined in and got a big hand. The

wheelchair allowed my Mom to last the whole day and into the nighttime

firewords.

Yes, some of our kids need more patience, etc. Should they get special

treatment or " inclusion " like all the rest of the fussy kids? Many of

our kids are better than the " average " that Disney gets.

Now, in confession, I've regularly asked for special lift rates when I

took my daughter skiing. We'd usually get them (dollars in my pocket).

Sometimes, they would let her ski free and charge me a half-rate as her

caretaker. Now we would then just go to the lifts and ski all day as

vigorously as we would have is she didn't have down syndrome.

Rick .. dad to 32 year old Jan

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I have to wonder why you need a " special needs " pass for a child with DS

unless there are some further handicapping conditons.

My daughter went to Disney World a number of times. The only time we

had any special attention was when she went with her grandmother who

spent the day in a wheelchair. Jan stood in line for most things, but

if grandma could come along, she got in the short line. In Epcot at

with the Morocan dancers, she joined in and got a big hand. The

wheelchair allowed my Mom to last the whole day and into the nighttime

firewords.

Yes, some of our kids need more patience, etc. Should they get special

treatment or " inclusion " like all the rest of the fussy kids? Many of

our kids are better than the " average " that Disney gets.

Now, in confession, I've regularly asked for special lift rates when I

took my daughter skiing. We'd usually get them (dollars in my pocket).

Sometimes, they would let her ski free and charge me a half-rate as her

caretaker. Now we would then just go to the lifts and ski all day as

vigorously as we would have is she didn't have down syndrome.

Rick .. dad to 32 year old Jan

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I agree with the fact this is an accommodation. Sammy like many of our kids

has a stamina issue.

Disney's long lines are not as torturous as many other lines in amusement

parks. They do a pretty good job of keeping things moving and active. They have

visual games and activities to interest you while waiting on some, and

conveyers for others. BUT, in Sammy's case, the long walks from place to place

and

then the waits can cause a problem. Sammy gets muscle cramps after long

activities around his knees. Our doctor recommended Gatorade for that problem.

Apparently its more than just stamina, its chemistry. And its not something you

want to spend time explaining to anyone. So goddess bless Disney for the

accommodation.

We came home feeling like Sammy had the most special birthday in the world,

and I love that feeling.

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I agree with the fact this is an accommodation. Sammy like many of our kids

has a stamina issue.

Disney's long lines are not as torturous as many other lines in amusement

parks. They do a pretty good job of keeping things moving and active. They have

visual games and activities to interest you while waiting on some, and

conveyers for others. BUT, in Sammy's case, the long walks from place to place

and

then the waits can cause a problem. Sammy gets muscle cramps after long

activities around his knees. Our doctor recommended Gatorade for that problem.

Apparently its more than just stamina, its chemistry. And its not something you

want to spend time explaining to anyone. So goddess bless Disney for the

accommodation.

We came home feeling like Sammy had the most special birthday in the world,

and I love that feeling.

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Oh, we go back and forth on this one every few years, huh? I wouldn't

call the passes as special treatment (unless a person with DS has lots of

stamina, no behavioral problems out of the ordinary or other medical

condition). I see it as more of an accomadation.

's teacher told me yesterday that he has 28 accomadations on his

draft IEP - most are to prevent behaviors. 's DS doctor also

recommends a special needs stroller to help with transitioning - our

insurance will not pay for it. So when the day comes that we take him to

Disney, I will ask for the pass as an accomadation so he could enjoy the day

(and us, too - less stress).

> Yes, some of our kids need more patience, etc. Should they get special

> treatment or " inclusion " like all the rest of the fussy kids? Many of

> our kids are better than the " average " that Disney gets.

>

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Oh, we go back and forth on this one every few years, huh? I wouldn't

call the passes as special treatment (unless a person with DS has lots of

stamina, no behavioral problems out of the ordinary or other medical

condition). I see it as more of an accomadation.

's teacher told me yesterday that he has 28 accomadations on his

draft IEP - most are to prevent behaviors. 's DS doctor also

recommends a special needs stroller to help with transitioning - our

insurance will not pay for it. So when the day comes that we take him to

Disney, I will ask for the pass as an accomadation so he could enjoy the day

(and us, too - less stress).

> Yes, some of our kids need more patience, etc. Should they get special

> treatment or " inclusion " like all the rest of the fussy kids? Many of

> our kids are better than the " average " that Disney gets.

>

>

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We arrive the afternoon of the 26th.

Sharon

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

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We arrive the afternoon of the 26th.

Sharon

Disney World special needs pass

Hi,

Does anyone know the latest policy on getting a special needs pass

at Disney World in Florida? I remember reading that it may have

changed, and be harder to get. People said in the past that they

could get a pass to not have to stand in line based on the diagnosis

of Down syndrome alone.

Thanks and here's a brief intro. I have been lurking off and on for

about 8 years! Rarely if ever posted. My son Tommy is 12 and has

Down syndrome. He is in his last year of elementary school with an

aide and mostly included, with some resource room for reading and

math. We are headed to the middle school next year, so I have been

reading those posts with great interest! He plays snare drum in the

school band, is involved in Special Olympics for swimming, bowling,

and soccer starting just this past year. He is in puberty. He is a

great entertainer, loves music and has a great time with his 10 year

old sister and 4 year old brother. We have never been to Disney and

I am sure they will all love it! Me too! I have been a stay at

home mom for the past 12 years, and enjoy it most of the time!

Patty in PA

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I was thinking more along the lines of special

treatment for the parent...80)

Nic would make waiting in long lines so miserable

for us, that we'd end up having a horrible time.

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Oh, we go back and forth on this one every few

years, huh? I wouldn't

call the passes as special treatment (unless a

person with DS has lots of

stamina, no behavioral problems out of the

ordinary or other medical

condition). I see it as more of an accomadation.

's teacher told me yesterday that he has

28 accomadations on his

draft IEP - most are to prevent behaviors.

's DS doctor also

recommends a special needs stroller to help with

transitioning - our

insurance will not pay for it. So when the day

comes that we take him to

Disney, I will ask for the pass as an

accomadation so he could enjoy the day

(and us, too - less stress).

> Yes, some of our kids need more patience, etc.

Should they get special

> treatment or " inclusion " like all the rest of

the fussy kids? Many of

> our kids are better than the " average " that

Disney gets.

>

>

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