Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 You are going to hear lots of different opinions on this..and the thing of it is, you know your son better than anyone.. so, listen to the advice and do what YOU feel is right. First, I'll remind you that probably he'll have a hard time keeping up with the reg ed kids, even if he catches up. His learning style will be different. And the gap will widen as he grows. What I would look at is his socialization. Has he made a bond with the kids he's with? It may be more important for him to stick with them and learn at a different pace. I know, Maverick in Jr. High school is not anywhere near the grade level, but he is in all regular classes and has been with most of the kids since 1st grade. They have a bond with him and look forward to seeing him and miss him when he isn't there. Now, that's not to say he is with them outside the school socially, but during school he is. And that is where he spends most of his day. That's one point of view. M. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 You are going to hear lots of different opinions on this..and the thing of it is, you know your son better than anyone.. so, listen to the advice and do what YOU feel is right. First, I'll remind you that probably he'll have a hard time keeping up with the reg ed kids, even if he catches up. His learning style will be different. And the gap will widen as he grows. What I would look at is his socialization. Has he made a bond with the kids he's with? It may be more important for him to stick with them and learn at a different pace. I know, Maverick in Jr. High school is not anywhere near the grade level, but he is in all regular classes and has been with most of the kids since 1st grade. They have a bond with him and look forward to seeing him and miss him when he isn't there. Now, that's not to say he is with them outside the school socially, but during school he is. And that is where he spends most of his day. That's one point of view. M. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 We will soon be doing Isaac's IEP. He is 6 and in regular kindergarten with full-time aide. There are 11 students in his class. We know that he hasn't learned all of the material that the typical kids have learned, but he has made absolutely great strides in many areas. We are wondering if we should have him do kindergarten again, or have him move on. I can see advantages of sending him to 1st grade but don't want to cause him too much frustration. I can also see advantages of having him repeat kindergarten. What has worked for other kids out there?! Any advice, tips, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Jill Mom to (20), Lydia (12) and Isaac (6, DS) Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Hi Jill, We already know that we will have repeat Kindergarten next year. In my opinion I feel that Kindergarten is the best chance to keep him back and try to learn as much of those basic skills that are needed for the following years of school. All the skills they learn in school are based on those beginning skills they teach in Kindergarten. has far to go to walk away from Kindergarten with the same knowledge as his typical peers but I feel that an extra year will give him the best chance. I kind of view this year as a dress rehearsal if you will. Next year I really hope that it will seem familiar to him and since he'll know what to expect, strides will be made. Of course I could just be living in a fantasy world but I know that he is no where near ready to press on to 1st grade. So in a nutshell, we're keeping back next year to repeat K, he'll be 6 on April 22nd. Hope that helps you a bit at least! Jayne jill ann briggs <briggsj@...> wrote: We will soon be doing Isaac's IEP. He is 6 and in regular kindergarten with full-time aide. There are 11 students in his class. We know that he hasn't learned all of the material that the typical kids have learned, but he has made absolutely great strides in many areas. We are wondering if we should have him do kindergarten again, or have him move on. I can see advantages of sending him to 1st grade but don't want to cause him too much frustration. I can also see advantages of having him repeat kindergarten. What has worked for other kids out there?! Any advice, tips, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Jill Mom to (20), Lydia (12) and Isaac (6, DS) Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 Hi Jill, We already know that we will have repeat Kindergarten next year. In my opinion I feel that Kindergarten is the best chance to keep him back and try to learn as much of those basic skills that are needed for the following years of school. All the skills they learn in school are based on those beginning skills they teach in Kindergarten. has far to go to walk away from Kindergarten with the same knowledge as his typical peers but I feel that an extra year will give him the best chance. I kind of view this year as a dress rehearsal if you will. Next year I really hope that it will seem familiar to him and since he'll know what to expect, strides will be made. Of course I could just be living in a fantasy world but I know that he is no where near ready to press on to 1st grade. So in a nutshell, we're keeping back next year to repeat K, he'll be 6 on April 22nd. Hope that helps you a bit at least! Jayne jill ann briggs <briggsj@...> wrote: We will soon be doing Isaac's IEP. He is 6 and in regular kindergarten with full-time aide. There are 11 students in his class. We know that he hasn't learned all of the material that the typical kids have learned, but he has made absolutely great strides in many areas. We are wondering if we should have him do kindergarten again, or have him move on. I can see advantages of sending him to 1st grade but don't want to cause him too much frustration. I can also see advantages of having him repeat kindergarten. What has worked for other kids out there?! Any advice, tips, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Jill Mom to (20), Lydia (12) and Isaac (6, DS) Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 We had Kaitlyn repeat Kindergarten based on the recommendation of her kindergarten teacher. Her teacher had made great progress with her and thought one more year would have her reading on grade level. However, school borders changed and we got a different school building and her kindergarten teachers were not nearly as good the 2nd time around. She probably regressed scholastically. She has however made some good friends in this class. Just dumb luck but the girls in this grade are much smaller physically than the girls in the grade ahead. I think socially repeating turned out to be a good thing. Some classes are just better than others. I guess my point is look at both how well was he learning under the teacher and also the friendships that he has developed. Which is stronger for Isaac? If he is really learning well- it might be worth it to stay back. If he has good kids in his class it might be worth it to stick with them. Eventually, he is going to fall behind his peers educationally most likely. So it is nice if they have good classmates who are accepting no matter what. It really is a fine line and you have to go with your gut and hope for the best. Gee, hope this is helpful and not too confusing. Good luck with your decision. Darcy Repeat Kindergarten?? We will soon be doing Isaac's IEP. He is 6 and in regular kindergarten with full-time aide. There are 11 students in his class. We know that he hasn't learned all of the material that the typical kids have learned, but he has made absolutely great strides in many areas. We are wondering if we should have him do kindergarten again, or have him move on. I can see advantages of sending him to 1st grade but don't want to cause him too much frustration. I can also see advantages of having him repeat kindergarten. What has worked for other kids out there?! Any advice, tips, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Jill Mom to (20), Lydia (12) and Isaac (6, DS) Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Posted March 1, 2005 We had Kaitlyn repeat Kindergarten based on the recommendation of her kindergarten teacher. Her teacher had made great progress with her and thought one more year would have her reading on grade level. However, school borders changed and we got a different school building and her kindergarten teachers were not nearly as good the 2nd time around. She probably regressed scholastically. She has however made some good friends in this class. Just dumb luck but the girls in this grade are much smaller physically than the girls in the grade ahead. I think socially repeating turned out to be a good thing. Some classes are just better than others. I guess my point is look at both how well was he learning under the teacher and also the friendships that he has developed. Which is stronger for Isaac? If he is really learning well- it might be worth it to stay back. If he has good kids in his class it might be worth it to stick with them. Eventually, he is going to fall behind his peers educationally most likely. So it is nice if they have good classmates who are accepting no matter what. It really is a fine line and you have to go with your gut and hope for the best. Gee, hope this is helpful and not too confusing. Good luck with your decision. Darcy Repeat Kindergarten?? We will soon be doing Isaac's IEP. He is 6 and in regular kindergarten with full-time aide. There are 11 students in his class. We know that he hasn't learned all of the material that the typical kids have learned, but he has made absolutely great strides in many areas. We are wondering if we should have him do kindergarten again, or have him move on. I can see advantages of sending him to 1st grade but don't want to cause him too much frustration. I can also see advantages of having him repeat kindergarten. What has worked for other kids out there?! Any advice, tips, suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Jill Mom to (20), Lydia (12) and Isaac (6, DS) Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 We were thinking that this would be a good way to make sure had the basics before moving on, but both her regular ed teacher and the someone in special ed (can't remember who, but someone I respected) were very much against it. We were thinking that we'd rather her not make friends for 3 year, then have to get held back in 2nd or 3rd grade, or something like that. They didn't believe that holding her back made sense, because she wasn't going to be measured " at grade level " . They felt that it was more important for her to be with her age-appropriate typical peers because she would never really be " keeping up " with whatever grade she was in, and that wasn't the point. When inclusion works, the material is modified for the student so that they can get what they need out of the work, not necessarily the exact same amount or content as their classmates. So, we sent her off to 1st grade this year, and she has many children from her kinder class in her 1st grade class, and is very happy there. That said, I think that if I felt my child wasn't socially ready to move on (or could use extra time perhaps on communication skills), I would rather have them repeat kindergarten than a later grade. It's a hard decision. was pretty social, speaks very well, and considers all her classmates her friends. She was also a January birthday, making her " old " (5y, 8 mo) when kindergarten started. I was worried about her repeating and being 7 for a lot of a 2nd year of kinder. It worked for her, but I think each year it gets a little scarier as the material gets harder and our kids can slip further behind their typical peers. She was doing many things at grade level at the end of kindergarten, but is having a more difficult time keep up in 1st grade (especially in math). Its finding the balance, without the benefit of a crystal ball :-) You've gotta go with your gut. , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 We were thinking that this would be a good way to make sure had the basics before moving on, but both her regular ed teacher and the someone in special ed (can't remember who, but someone I respected) were very much against it. We were thinking that we'd rather her not make friends for 3 year, then have to get held back in 2nd or 3rd grade, or something like that. They didn't believe that holding her back made sense, because she wasn't going to be measured " at grade level " . They felt that it was more important for her to be with her age-appropriate typical peers because she would never really be " keeping up " with whatever grade she was in, and that wasn't the point. When inclusion works, the material is modified for the student so that they can get what they need out of the work, not necessarily the exact same amount or content as their classmates. So, we sent her off to 1st grade this year, and she has many children from her kinder class in her 1st grade class, and is very happy there. That said, I think that if I felt my child wasn't socially ready to move on (or could use extra time perhaps on communication skills), I would rather have them repeat kindergarten than a later grade. It's a hard decision. was pretty social, speaks very well, and considers all her classmates her friends. She was also a January birthday, making her " old " (5y, 8 mo) when kindergarten started. I was worried about her repeating and being 7 for a lot of a 2nd year of kinder. It worked for her, but I think each year it gets a little scarier as the material gets harder and our kids can slip further behind their typical peers. She was doing many things at grade level at the end of kindergarten, but is having a more difficult time keep up in 1st grade (especially in math). Its finding the balance, without the benefit of a crystal ball :-) You've gotta go with your gut. , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 In a message dated 3/2/2005 5:02:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Collarbone@... writes: is totally right Oh I LOVE those words. Wish I heard them from my teens!!!! M. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 In a message dated 3/2/2005 5:02:58 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Collarbone@... writes: is totally right Oh I LOVE those words. Wish I heard them from my teens!!!! M. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 is totally right...go with your gut. I wish I would have when Noah was in Kindergarten. He is now in 3rd grade, and we are going to repeat it. I wish they would have kept him back in Kindy instead. My opinion is that even though he has relationships with these kids, he will make friends with the new kids too. This way, he has kids ahead of him and with him that know him, and that will be valuable as the years go by. The more kids who have experience being around him the better. By middle school, I hope to have him surrounded with buddies! I'd sure like to have kids in all the grades remember having Noah in their class, and being comfortable saying hi to him in the hall. As the years go by, and the curriculum gets further and further out of reach, I prefer that he spend his time learning the basics with his peers that aren't that far removed. Besides, if he can stay in school until he's 21, I feel he is getting a whole lot more out of the elementary curriculum, than he will spending three years as a senior in high school. It is such an individual thing, you really must make the decision based on your child. Noah will make friends with anyone, and will not be bothered by the stigma of being held back. If I can surround him with " little mommies " for a few more years, I'm gonna do it! They are my eyes and ears...invaluable! Karla in Texas - mom to 13 nda, but at the mercy of his raging hormones...and Noah 9 ds...the easy one! Re: Repeat Kindergarten?? You are going to hear lots of different opinions on this..and the thing of it is, you know your son better than anyone.. so, listen to the advice and do what YOU feel is right. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 is totally right...go with your gut. I wish I would have when Noah was in Kindergarten. He is now in 3rd grade, and we are going to repeat it. I wish they would have kept him back in Kindy instead. My opinion is that even though he has relationships with these kids, he will make friends with the new kids too. This way, he has kids ahead of him and with him that know him, and that will be valuable as the years go by. The more kids who have experience being around him the better. By middle school, I hope to have him surrounded with buddies! I'd sure like to have kids in all the grades remember having Noah in their class, and being comfortable saying hi to him in the hall. As the years go by, and the curriculum gets further and further out of reach, I prefer that he spend his time learning the basics with his peers that aren't that far removed. Besides, if he can stay in school until he's 21, I feel he is getting a whole lot more out of the elementary curriculum, than he will spending three years as a senior in high school. It is such an individual thing, you really must make the decision based on your child. Noah will make friends with anyone, and will not be bothered by the stigma of being held back. If I can surround him with " little mommies " for a few more years, I'm gonna do it! They are my eyes and ears...invaluable! Karla in Texas - mom to 13 nda, but at the mercy of his raging hormones...and Noah 9 ds...the easy one! Re: Repeat Kindergarten?? You are going to hear lots of different opinions on this..and the thing of it is, you know your son better than anyone.. so, listen to the advice and do what YOU feel is right. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 Hi Jayne, First of all I want to thank you and your family for the sacrifices you make for the rest of US! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I dont really have any advice for you. What little you did say about this teacher, gets my blood pres. up a bit. And sometimes I think we go over the edge on the P.C. stuff. Problems should be addressed reguardless of race, gender, ect. Thats not the issue. Pray, and take your time. If i rush into conversations to quickly, I tend to say things I regret. I do better if I give myself a few days (or more if neccessary) to " mull it over " as 'they' say. My sister in law has raised 4 children in the US Air Force, and they have lived everywhere. Im sure they miss freinds they have made, but I'm telling you......her kids are soooo, well, balanced. You can tell they have learned so much by meeting all the people they have, and all the cultures. They have lived in England, Korea, and all over the USA. And she has a special needs child,...she is her youngest. There are advantages...Im sure you know that tho. Concentrate on that....I beleive there are alot of great people everywhere. Unfortunaly we only hear and talk about the bad ones sometimes! Jayne Hickey <jacksonsmom99@...> wrote: I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 Hi Jayne, First of all I want to thank you and your family for the sacrifices you make for the rest of US! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I dont really have any advice for you. What little you did say about this teacher, gets my blood pres. up a bit. And sometimes I think we go over the edge on the P.C. stuff. Problems should be addressed reguardless of race, gender, ect. Thats not the issue. Pray, and take your time. If i rush into conversations to quickly, I tend to say things I regret. I do better if I give myself a few days (or more if neccessary) to " mull it over " as 'they' say. My sister in law has raised 4 children in the US Air Force, and they have lived everywhere. Im sure they miss freinds they have made, but I'm telling you......her kids are soooo, well, balanced. You can tell they have learned so much by meeting all the people they have, and all the cultures. They have lived in England, Korea, and all over the USA. And she has a special needs child,...she is her youngest. There are advantages...Im sure you know that tho. Concentrate on that....I beleive there are alot of great people everywhere. Unfortunaly we only hear and talk about the bad ones sometimes! Jayne Hickey <jacksonsmom99@...> wrote: I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 OOOPs. Im a little new at this computer stuff. I think I just sent that to people I dont know. I apologize. Jayne Hickey <jacksonsmom99@...> wrote: I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 OOOPs. Im a little new at this computer stuff. I think I just sent that to people I dont know. I apologize. Jayne Hickey <jacksonsmom99@...> wrote: I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 Absolutely, , if Noah had good communication skills, I'd be much less inclined to hold him back. He has apraxia, and is very difficult for the other kids to understand. It is my feeling that the kids seem to become less tolerant of the communication difficulties as they get older. In other words, they kind of stop trying to communicate with him as much, cause it's just too much trouble. I would rather he have the extra years of speech therapy to improve before getting to middle school when they just wont bother with trying to figure him out or worse yet make fun of him. Noah's biggest delay is speech, and that hampers his social interaction way more than the MR does. As far as staying with " age appropriate " peers, he has way more in common with the second graders than the third graders! The gap continues to widen both academically and socially each year. It's hard when you really want to buy the Barney lunchbox because you know your kid loves it, but knowing you don't dare cause Barney isn't cool in the third grade. Seeing 's post also made obvious the difference between boys and girls as well. I think it would be a lot more important to keep the girls social circle intact than the boys. They are just totally different creatures! Karla in Texas Re: Repeat Kindergarten?? That said, I think that if I felt my child wasn't socially ready to move on (or could use extra time perhaps on communication skills), I would rather have them repeat kindergarten than a later grade. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 Absolutely, , if Noah had good communication skills, I'd be much less inclined to hold him back. He has apraxia, and is very difficult for the other kids to understand. It is my feeling that the kids seem to become less tolerant of the communication difficulties as they get older. In other words, they kind of stop trying to communicate with him as much, cause it's just too much trouble. I would rather he have the extra years of speech therapy to improve before getting to middle school when they just wont bother with trying to figure him out or worse yet make fun of him. Noah's biggest delay is speech, and that hampers his social interaction way more than the MR does. As far as staying with " age appropriate " peers, he has way more in common with the second graders than the third graders! The gap continues to widen both academically and socially each year. It's hard when you really want to buy the Barney lunchbox because you know your kid loves it, but knowing you don't dare cause Barney isn't cool in the third grade. Seeing 's post also made obvious the difference between boys and girls as well. I think it would be a lot more important to keep the girls social circle intact than the boys. They are just totally different creatures! Karla in Texas Re: Repeat Kindergarten?? That said, I think that if I felt my child wasn't socially ready to move on (or could use extra time perhaps on communication skills), I would rather have them repeat kindergarten than a later grade. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 Amy, Thanks so much for the kind words, I appreciate them especially as this month is a tough one with my husband traveling alot. You are right that I should definately wait it out a bit and gather my thoughts - I have the same problem about spouting off sometimes just because I feel so strongly about something - which can sometimes come back to bite me! I'll let you know how it pans out. Thank you, Jayne Amy S <amys1966@...> wrote: Hi Jayne, First of all I want to thank you and your family for the sacrifices you make for the rest of US! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I dont really have any advice for you. What little you did say about this teacher, gets my blood pres. up a bit. And sometimes I think we go over the edge on the P.C. stuff. Problems should be addressed reguardless of race, gender, ect. Thats not the issue. Pray, and take your time. If i rush into conversations to quickly, I tend to say things I regret. I do better if I give myself a few days (or more if neccessary) to " mull it over " as 'they' say. My sister in law has raised 4 children in the US Air Force, and they have lived everywhere. Im sure they miss freinds they have made, but I'm telling you......her kids are soooo, well, balanced. You can tell they have learned so much by meeting all the people they have, and all the cultures. They have lived in England, Korea, and all over the USA. And she has a special needs child,...she is her youngest. There are advantages...Im sure you know that tho. Concentrate on that....I beleive there are alot of great people everywhere. Unfortunaly we only hear and talk about the bad ones sometimes! Jayne Hickey <jacksonsmom99@...> wrote: I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Posted March 2, 2005 Amy, Thanks so much for the kind words, I appreciate them especially as this month is a tough one with my husband traveling alot. You are right that I should definately wait it out a bit and gather my thoughts - I have the same problem about spouting off sometimes just because I feel so strongly about something - which can sometimes come back to bite me! I'll let you know how it pans out. Thank you, Jayne Amy S <amys1966@...> wrote: Hi Jayne, First of all I want to thank you and your family for the sacrifices you make for the rest of US! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I dont really have any advice for you. What little you did say about this teacher, gets my blood pres. up a bit. And sometimes I think we go over the edge on the P.C. stuff. Problems should be addressed reguardless of race, gender, ect. Thats not the issue. Pray, and take your time. If i rush into conversations to quickly, I tend to say things I regret. I do better if I give myself a few days (or more if neccessary) to " mull it over " as 'they' say. My sister in law has raised 4 children in the US Air Force, and they have lived everywhere. Im sure they miss freinds they have made, but I'm telling you......her kids are soooo, well, balanced. You can tell they have learned so much by meeting all the people they have, and all the cultures. They have lived in England, Korea, and all over the USA. And she has a special needs child,...she is her youngest. There are advantages...Im sure you know that tho. Concentrate on that....I beleive there are alot of great people everywhere. Unfortunaly we only hear and talk about the bad ones sometimes! Jayne Hickey <jacksonsmom99@...> wrote: I have noticed this same thing happening with . He is the youngest in his DD classroom, it is first graders and kindergartners. The older kids have really taken under their wing, they love him. Yesterday a stuffed animal came home in 's backpack from one of the boys in the class - he just wanted to give it to . It's hard for me because being a Military family we are not able to stay in the same district from start to finish. I am envious of those of you who have children that will grow up with the same children and then live in the community with most of those same children when they are adults. Those are the kids that will hire your children when they are looking for a job. Say " johnny " decided to get a job at the local grocery store and " joe " from johnny's school days is now the manager of that store. Joe will be far more inclined to hire ny if they grew up together because he's familiar with him and not afraid. We just have to hurry up and finish this Air Force gig so we can get to Maine and settle down so can hope to find some support in that community. I just found out today that there may be some shuffling for next year. Now I'm worried about my master plan for him to repeat Kindergarten next year. I want him to have the same sped teacher and same kindergarten teacher and same aides. I don't think that's too much to ask. Well, I heard this morning that the current sped teacher he has may only teach 1st grade next year. The other kindergarten sped teacher they have right now - is Awful with a capital A. I can't believe this woman is a sped teacher. She doesn't do diapers, drooling, etc.... She has fought tooth and nail to have children that require extra effort to be removed from her class! I want to say something to the principal to let him know that I don't approve of J being in her class. I know he wouldn't thrive because he's not wanted in there. That's half the battle, feeling secure in your learning environment. Any suggestions for how to have that conversation with the prinicpal and still be p.c. etc,... This teacher is an african american woman and we live in Virginia. Thanks, Jayne Loree5@... wrote: I haven't gotten to regular school yet with Micah but I agree with . Micah has been with the same kids for 2 years in pre-school and as they get ready for kindy next year he will be left behind in another year of pre-school. He would not be in the same kindy with them anyway as they will be in a different district but I have seen that the children he has been with for two years he has a special bond wiht. We also have him in a pre-school class that is on his developmental age group (about a year younger), the funny thing is, he socializes better with the kids he has been with for two years and are older developmentally then him and also many of them are almost a year older chronologically. His SEIT teacher is amazed. It all has toi do with the bond they have made. They love him and watch out for him and are beginning to understand his signs and gestures as well as his words. I don't think you casn underestimate the power of the social bond and learning. It is powerful!! Loree Quote
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