Re: Re: Marathoning /Cholesterol

[Guest guest]

On Dec 9, 2006, at 10:55 AM, citpeks wrote:

> Similarly, if your diet is high in saturated fats, your cholesterol

> will be high. You need to reduce the amount of saturated fats, and

> increase the amount of polyunsaturated in your diet. I have

> summarized this information in my three pages on cholesterol:

>

> http://www.scientificpsychic.com/health/cholesterol.html

>

> It is time to review and revise your diet. Something like cutting

> back on the " healthy " olive oil and replacing it with a high

> polyunsaturated oil like grape seed oil, and adding one tablespoon of

> flax seed oil per day to your diet is generally all it takes to

> normalize your cholesterol.

Those pages (and many others) on your website are very informative.

One small quibble: judging from the profiles of edible oils as

graphed on the Manitoba Harvest website, it looks like safflower oil

would be a slightly better choice than grapeseed oil for

polyunsaturated fats with minimal saturated fats. (Also more widely

available, at least in my experience.) Not so?

L Cook

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

See:

25 Mar 1998

Nutrient Intake Profile for Alan Pater.

Your Average Fats, Protein, Carbohydrate, Fiber, and

Cholesterol Intake

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Daily Intake Reference

Total fat (% calories) 11.5 Less than 30%

Saturated fat (% calories) 3.7 Less than 10%

Monounsaturated fat (% calories) 3.4

Polyunsaturated fat (% calories) 2.6 6.8 g

Protein (% calories) 17.7 55 g

Total carbohydrate (% calories) 74.3 Greater than

55%

Total sugar (% calories) 4.2 Less than 10%

Dietary fiber (g) 23.3 25 or more g/day

Dietary cholesterol (mg) 47.9 Less than 300 mg/day

Blood total cholesterol 3.05 mM, reference range

4.0-6.4 mM

--- citpeks <citpeks@...> wrote:

> There are three main causes of high cholesterol: 2)

high > carbohydrate, low-fat diet

>

> High carbohydrate, low-fat diets increase

> cholesterol because

> carbohydrates get metabolized to palmitate (C16:0)

> which is a

> saturated fatty acid that can increase cholesterol.

-- Al Pater, PhD; email: Alpater@...

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[Guest guest]

> There are three main causes of high cholesterol: 1)

> familial

> hypercholesterolemia which is fairly rare (~1/500

> people), 2) high

> carbohydrate, low-fat diet, and 3) diet deficient in

> essential

> omega-6, omega-3 fatty acids.

There is no evidence that a diet based on whole

natural foods that is low in fat and high in carb and

fiber raises cholesterol.

In fact, just the opposite. The only diet ever proven

to reverse heart disease in a clinical trial was a low

fat high carb diet (ornish, pritikin).

Low fat high carb diets that are low in fiber and also

high in sugar, and white flour, and full of

hydrogenated fats, and saturated fat, will raise

cholesterol. The typical low fat high carb diet in

american is 12% saturated fat. Such diets will raise

cholesterol

Also, diets high in saturated fat, cholesterol,

hydrogenated fats, tropical oils and trans fat, can

also raise cholesterol

Regards

Jeff

[Guest guest]

> It's beginning to sound to me like the ideal dietary

> protein/fat/carbohydrate ratio should be something

> like:

>

> 10%/15%/75% where the fat percentage varies from

> 10-20% and the

> carbohydrate ratio would then vary from 70-80%.

If I was pressed to give percentages, I would say

Fat 10-20% (maybe 25% in a rare case)

Protein 10-20% (maybe 25% again in a rare case)

Carb 60-80%

But, as percentages of macronutrients are not our

primary need, focusing on them, and trying to hit some

sort of " ideal " can be misleading.

Our primary need is for essential nutrients, vitamins,

minerals etc.. and we should design a diet where we

meet these through whole foods, and let the

percentages fall where they would.

And when we do, we will see that the most nutrient

dense diet, with the most food for the least calories,

and the highest level of satiety, will fall into those

ranges.

I have left a challenge on this board now for a few

years for anyone to design a diet that is CR and hit

all the RDAs for all known nutrients, and be over 25%

fat. So far, no one has posted one.

Regards

Jeff