Re: RE: SOAP Notes

[Guest guest]

ah....the check is in the mail!

Vern

RE: SOAP Notes

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> I use Vern's " Saboe chart note system " , wierd name but works fine. I

> have each room networked to my personal office computer as the

> server, and each in room computer works as a word processor only. It

> is quick and easy, doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get set up, you

> really don't need top of the line computers in each room, you can

> usually find good used computers for less than $100 each, then with

> wireless routers just have someone set up your network. You may even

> be able to do this on your own depending on your ability and skill

> level.

>

> I have used this system for about 6 years and have been very happy.

> You can e-mail me directly if you have any other questions, or I am

> sure Vern will be happy to answer them for you.

> (Vern, I will take the referral check now)

>

> Grice, DC

> Albany, OR

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[Guest guest]

If you are willing to spend $5000, take a look at documentsplus. This is a system where both patient data input and dr. input are entered on scan forms(like taking a SAT every visit)The reports that are generated are individual and professional. Since I started this, my incidence of IME's is way down,my bills get paid, and attorneys rave about lthe quazlity of my chart notes, exam and reports. The best thing is, after the exam or treatment is over and recorded, I'm done. I have not done a narrative in 2 years! Ron Johansen DC DABCO Portland

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:23:26 -0800 "Dr. Glenn F. Gumaer" <gfgdc@...> writes:

Greetings:

You all are great. Thank you so much for the input I received regarding my W/C turned PIP case. I am clear about what to do now.

Next question... Has anyone come up with a quick, easy, cheap, reliable way to document chart notes?

I tried writing them by hand (not very impressive looking). I tried typing them into a laptop (time consuming). I tried AutoDoc ($1,500 piece of C%# & !) on a Palm pilot and gave it away. I tried speech recognition software (I guess I am a mumbler...). I tried a Compaq IPAQ pocket PC with a keyboard on a fold-down table in the treatment room, and templated the soap notes, and it worked well for the past 2 years. The power button fell inside for the second time today. I repaired it, reset it and lost a days worth of chart notes. So, it is not reliable. Now I am back to typing them in my laptop...

Any good ideas out there?

Thanks.

Glenn F. Gumaer, BS, DC

Northside Chiropractic Clinic

1240 N. Riverside Avenue

Medford, OR 97501

www.seekhealth.com

OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

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Glenn: I have been using a lap top for notes for almost 3 years. It took a little getting used to, but my notes are more complete. I save about an hour a day in dictating, transcribing time, and everything I put down is legible. I have complete sentences. If your typing isn't good, get a typing program and practice at home. You can be at least 40 words per minute in a couple months. I have a template with office information at the top and patient, name, dob, doi, date of visit, ss# for me to fill in. After I finish the note, I put it on a floppy disk and someone at the front desk, or I print it. Ann Goldeen, Astoria

RE: SOAP Notes

Greetings:

You all are great. Thank you so much for the input I received regarding my W/C turned PIP case. I am clear about what to do now.

Next question... Has anyone come up with a quick, easy, cheap, reliable way to document chart notes?

I tried writing them by hand (not very impressive looking). I tried typing them into a laptop (time consuming). I tried AutoDoc ($1,500 piece of C%# & !) on a Palm pilot and gave it away. I tried speech recognition software (I guess I am a mumbler...). I tried a Compaq IPAQ pocket PC with a keyboard on a fold-down table in the treatment room, and templated the soap notes, and it worked well for the past 2 years. The power button fell inside for the second time today. I repaired it, reset it and lost a days worth of chart notes. So, it is not reliable. Now I am back to typing them in my laptop...

Any good ideas out there?

Thanks.

Glenn F. Gumaer, BS, DC

Northside Chiropractic Clinic

1240 N. Riverside Avenue

Medford, OR 97501

www.seekhealth.com

OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

[Guest guest]

Hey Ron. . .do

you have a website address for DocumentsPlus?

Thanks, J. Vissers, D.C.

(tiring quickly

of narratives)

From: R

Johansen [mailto:drjohansen@...]

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004

6:23 PM

gfgdc@...

Cc: Oregondcs

Subject: Re: RE: SOAP

Notes

If you are willing to spend $5000, take a look at documentsplus. This

is a system where both patient data input and dr. input are entered on scan

forms(like taking a SAT every visit)The reports that are generated are

individual and professional. Since I started this, my incidence of IME's is way

down,my bills get paid, and attorneys rave about lthe quazlity of my chart

notes, exam and reports. The best thing is, after the exam or treatment is over

and recorded, I'm done. I have not done a narrative in 2 years! Ron Johansen DC

DABCO Portland

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:23:26 -0800 " Dr. Glenn F. Gumaer " <gfgdc@...> writes:

Greetings:

You all are great. Thank you so much for the input I

received regarding my W/C turned PIP case. I am clear about what to do now.

Next question... Has anyone come up with a quick, easy,

cheap, reliable way to document chart notes?

I tried writing them by hand (not very impressive looking).

I tried typing them into a laptop (time consuming). I tried AutoDoc ($1,500

piece of C%# & !) on a Palm pilot and gave it away. I tried speech

recognition software (I guess I am a mumbler...). I tried a Compaq IPAQ pocket

PC with a keyboard on a fold-down table in the treatment room, and templated

the soap notes, and it worked well for the past 2 years. The power button fell

inside for the second time today. I repaired it, reset it and lost a days worth

of chart notes. So, it is not reliable. Now I am back to typing them in my

laptop...

Any good ideas out there?

Thanks.

Glenn F. Gumaer, BS, DC

Northside Chiropractic Clinic

1240 N. Riverside

Avenue

Medford, OR

97501

www.seekhealth.com

OregonDCs

rules:

1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose

of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal

attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.

2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and

last name.

3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could

end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy,

print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member

without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

OregonDCs

rules:

1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose

of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal

attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.

2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and

last name.

3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could

end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy,

print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another

member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been

removed.

[Guest guest]

i hardly ever write narratives. I charge 75$ for them and that seems to have reduced the demand and at the same time making my hand written chart notes acceptable and sufficient.

Joe Medlin DC

PDX

RE: RE: SOAP Notes

Hey Ron. . .do you have a website address for DocumentsPlus?

Thanks, J. Vissers, D.C.

(tiring quickly of narratives)

From: R Johansen [mailto:drjohansen@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:23 PMgfgdc@...Cc: Oregondcs Subject: Re: RE: SOAP Notes

If you are willing to spend $5000, take a look at documentsplus. This is a system where both patient data input and dr. input are entered on scan forms(like taking a SAT every visit)The reports that are generated are individual and professional. Since I started this, my incidence of IME's is way down,my bills get paid, and attorneys rave about lthe quazlity of my chart notes, exam and reports. The best thing is, after the exam or treatment is over and recorded, I'm done. I have not done a narrative in 2 years! Ron Johansen DC DABCO Portland

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:23:26 -0800 "Dr. Glenn F. Gumaer" <gfgdc@...> writes:

Greetings:

You all are great. Thank you so much for the input I received regarding my W/C turned PIP case. I am clear about what to do now.

Next question... Has anyone come up with a quick, easy, cheap, reliable way to document chart notes?

I tried writing them by hand (not very impressive looking). I tried typing them into a laptop (time consuming). I tried AutoDoc ($1,500 piece of C%# & !) on a Palm pilot and gave it away. I tried speech recognition software (I guess I am a mumbler...). I tried a Compaq IPAQ pocket PC with a keyboard on a fold-down table in the treatment room, and templated the soap notes, and it worked well for the past 2 years. The power button fell inside for the second time today. I repaired it, reset it and lost a days worth of chart notes. So, it is not reliable. Now I am back to typing them in my laptop...

Any good ideas out there?

Thanks.

Glenn F. Gumaer, BS, DC

Northside Chiropractic Clinic

1240 N. Riverside Avenue

Medford, OR 97501

www.seekhealth.com

OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. OregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.