Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Hi, Don! Thanks a bunch for posting that info about quorn from Dr. D's web site. I already knew that it was a fungus, but I hadn't realized that it might not be so good for my health. I had already passed it up, as I am very sensitive to fungi, etc. But I had toyed with the idea of testing this stuff to see if I was intolerant of it, too. Now I know not to do it. Well, I am fortunate that I can tolerate meat very well. In fact, the redder, the better, as Dr. D's dad said about Os. Hey , I am with you about liver. On another list, someone suggested that the taste would improve if I soaked it in cool water for a bit. Can't quickly find that post, but I think it was half an hour. I did try that, and it was milder tasting. I get grass-fed beef liver. It doesn't taste as good as it used to, so either my taster has changed, or the slaughter house is substituting. Jane Tucson, AZ USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 We have Quorn in Switzerland since years and from time to time I eat it - good taste, like chicken, and never had problems. love Don schrieb: > > >Here is some information from DR. D's Q & A on his website. > >QUESTION: Can type As eat Quorn, a meat subsitute available in >England, derived from Mushrooms? >------------------------------------------- >ANSWER: Quorn, a protein analog derived from a species of fungii >(Fusarium gramineurum), has several components which might render it >desirable from the perspective of the plant-protein based diet >recommended for blood group A. For example a 'quorn burger' provides >quite a bit of protein: 6.4g protein, 2.9g carbohydrate, 2.3g fat. > >One study showed that that during consumption, Quorn elicited similar >eating behaviour when compared to a chicken meal. Amount selected, >overall eating rate and the decrease in motivation to eat did not >differ between the Quorn and control conditions. These two studies >show that Quorn (high-protein, dietary fibre combination) has a >strong impact on late satiety, but is similar in its effects during >and immediately after consumption. These data have clear implications >for the use of Quorn myco-protein for the control of appetite and >body weight.(1) > >Yet before there is some evidence that quorn may not be a 'perfect >food' (if there every was a perfect food.) First, quorn is high in >protein, but the amino acid profile is very high in phenylalanine, >which makes quorn inadvisable for most type A's -especially A non- >secretors, who often lack adequate levels of the enzyme intestinal >alkaline phosphatase (a fat-busting enzyme inactivated by >phyenylalanine). Also, this species of fungii may have immune >suppressive effects, which may give some concern to those non-A >individuals with infection disease susceptibilties. > >LITTLE KNOWN FACT DEPARTMENT: >Potato lectin may actually be a response on the part of the potato >tuber to protect itself from Fusarium infection. >------------------------------------------------- > >Here is Heidi's thoughts about quorn from her Q & A column. > >QUESTION: I'm blood group O. I enjoy fish, but not meat. Are meat >alternatives, like quorn, ok to eat? > >ANSWER: Quorn is a commercially manufactured substance, one which is >entirely new to the human digestive system and which has a >significant record of stimulating allergic response. It is not made >from mushrooms, nor any other plant. Rather, it is created by >propagating a fungus present in soil in a glucose medium, and forming >the resultant goo into edible-looking products. Its manufacturers in >Europe have received a government edict to stop advertising it as a >mushroom derivative, and health warnings have been issued in several >quarters. It has only recently been marketed in North America, and >until its safety and some idea of its nutritional value, if any, have >been established, I strongly suggest eating real food instead. :-> " At >any rate, it has none of the benefits of meat for your type. So, load >up on those fishies, and please add some fowl in there as well! > > >Don > > > > > > > >>... from the packaging I've looked >>at on the quorn products it says its soya based >>mushroom that the things are made of.. we can now get >>gluten free quorn products.. are none of these any >>good for me to eat? >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Don Thanks for filling me in about the quorn products.. Doesnt look like theyre much good does it.. they flavour them over here to taste like chicken and ham or bacon or turkey.. and I can manage to eat them so I'm going to try and get some of the real thing down this weekend..'haha'.. you lot are brilliant on here.. thanks for all your help.. you're all a godsend.. I'm not so confused as I was when I first started. . --- Don <ironwood55@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Here is some information from DR. D's Q & A on his website. QUESTION: Can type As eat Quorn, a meat subsitute available in England, derived from Mushrooms? ------------------------------------------- ANSWER: Quorn, a protein analog derived from a species of fungii (Fusarium gramineurum), has several components which might render it desirable from the perspective of the plant-protein based diet recommended for blood group A. For example a 'quorn burger' provides quite a bit of protein: 6.4g protein, 2.9g carbohydrate, 2.3g fat. One study showed that that during consumption, Quorn elicited similar eating behaviour when compared to a chicken meal. Amount selected, overall eating rate and the decrease in motivation to eat did not differ between the Quorn and control conditions. These two studies show that Quorn (high-protein, dietary fibre combination) has a strong impact on late satiety, but is similar in its effects during and immediately after consumption. These data have clear implications for the use of Quorn myco-protein for the control of appetite and body weight.(1) Yet before there is some evidence that quorn may not be a 'perfect food' (if there every was a perfect food.) First, quorn is high in protein, but the amino acid profile is very high in phenylalanine, which makes quorn inadvisable for most type A's -especially A non- secretors, who often lack adequate levels of the enzyme intestinal alkaline phosphatase (a fat-busting enzyme inactivated by phyenylalanine). Also, this species of fungii may have immune suppressive effects, which may give some concern to those non-A individuals with infection disease susceptibilties. LITTLE KNOWN FACT DEPARTMENT: Potato lectin may actually be a response on the part of the potato tuber to protect itself from Fusarium infection. ------------------------------------------------- Here is Heidi's thoughts about quorn from her Q & A column. QUESTION: I'm blood group O. I enjoy fish, but not meat. Are meat alternatives, like quorn, ok to eat? ANSWER: Quorn is a commercially manufactured substance, one which is entirely new to the human digestive system and which has a significant record of stimulating allergic response. It is not made from mushrooms, nor any other plant. Rather, it is created by propagating a fungus present in soil in a glucose medium, and forming the resultant goo into edible-looking products. Its manufacturers in Europe have received a government edict to stop advertising it as a mushroom derivative, and health warnings have been issued in several quarters. It has only recently been marketed in North America, and until its safety and some idea of its nutritional value, if any, have been established, I strongly suggest eating real food instead. :-> " At any rate, it has none of the benefits of meat for your type. So, load up on those fishies, and please add some fowl in there as well! Don > ... from the packaging I've looked > at on the quorn products it says its soya based > mushroom that the things are made of.. we can now get > gluten free quorn products.. are none of these any > good for me to eat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 The article in the New Yoker on CR mentioned they were eating Quorn, a fungus that became popular a few years ago. Quorn has had some problems associated with it, so I dont know if this has been discusses here, but personally, I wouldn't recommend eating it. http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/CSPI?pg=aq & q=quorn & what=web & sa=web & domai\ ns=cspinet.org & sitesearch=www.cspinet.org http://www.cspinet.org/quorn/ Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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