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I have been in the group for several months but when I try to post my messages never seem to make it to the group.My last stress test included information about EF so I am thinking there are multiple ways to estimate the EF. If you watch during an ECHO the technician will freeze a frame and trace an area to estimate the EF or at least I think that is what they are doing.From what I understand of EF it is only an estimate under any method.I have had my ICD since last September and the only problem seems to be that the technicians who check it see enough VT that it scares them and they have me see the EP guy ASAP. He says that my heart always corrects itself and not to worry. When I was in cardiac rehab, they would frequently stop me because of too much VT. I guess I should consider myself lucky in that they determined that I needed the ICD without my having any life threatening events.I have some mild pain if I exercise after breakfast and taking my beta blocker. I don't know if it is because I am excercizing too soon after eating or if the medicine is keeping my heart rate too low fot the hills I am going up.I see a plumbing cardiologist next month and maybe he will shed some light on the matter.Joe S.God Loves Us All

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