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You do not have to release patient records to a patient by HIPPA law if you

feel it is in their best interest not to. For example, say you have documented

in your notes that the patient is mentally unstable, and you believe that

releasing the notes to them will pose some sort of danger to them - you do not

have to do so. You can deny the request. They then have the right to appeal to

you the denial. At which time you are required to review it again with a

colleague, and if there is agreement you can subsequently deny the request a

final

and second time.

I am sort of reaching here but is the patient type A, have known cardiac

problems, have delusions of paranoia and persecution which dwelling on

persecuting

you will only aggravate - whereby releasing these files may cause them undue

stress.

Perhaps contact your boards legal counsel - I wonder where the overlap of

requirements to release informtion to the patient, and the 5th amendment which

says we do not have to incriminate ourselves lie? If you know, and can document

(by having the person who told you of this former patients intent to make you

suffer) that this person only has mailicious intent towards you - would you

have to release your records. Maybe contact your malpractice carrier as well -

if they have said they intent to make you suffer, then a potential lawsuit IS

in the making - and they would at least have to go through your carrier to get

the records ....after hiring an attorney....all of which creates layers making

getting the records all the more difficult.

I am just thinking out loud here - how about a letter to the patient saying

" I am most happy to release the records, however me thinks I smell a law suit a

brewin', so I will have to request you hire legal counsel and obtain the

records through my malpractice carrier " . This creates obstacles...going to an

attorney and having to explain things to them (even if they take the case on

contgency), time for the lawyer to request the files, time for you to copy them,

time for them to go to your carrier, time to get them to the patient, etc. Time

cools all things off. By the time the patient gets them, and everyone sees

there is nothing in the files incriminating, then the patient will lose steam

about persuing it more.

Just thinking outloud....or through the keyboard

Anglen

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Hi Ann,

You bring up an interesting point ...one where I don't recall seeing/finding/hearing any recourse. The patient owns the content of the records but the doc has physical possession. The Record-Keeping chapter is just finishing and, in all the literature I read, I don't remember anything addressing this scenario. Especially if she presents a subpoena, she is entitled to a copy. Best talk with your attorney, Ann and work this from a fully legal viewpoint. Sorry I don't have a valid tactic for you. Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DCFibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon59 Santa Clara St.,Eugene, Oregon, 97404541-689-0935

release of records

Hi all: I know we have been discussing releasing x-rays, and I have a question about paper records. A patient has just sent me a letter requesting her entire file. This patient made a complaint to the board a few months ago and told a friend that "she would make me suffer". The board did not find any violations with my treatment. I am reluctant to release her file knowing that she is probably going to try to continue hurting me. Dave et al., is there something I can do to protect myself in not releasing the records?

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There is nothing like getting the patient royally upset by refusing to

release their records to them when they have a properly signed release and

pay for the copies. Why make matters worse ? Take a look at OAR

811-015-006(1) Disclosure of Records , and that will guide you.

sharron fuchs dc

Re: release of records

You do not have to release patient records to a patient by HIPPA law if you

feel it is in their best interest not to. For example, say you have

documented

in your notes that the patient is mentally unstable, and you believe that

releasing the notes to them will pose some sort of danger to them - you do

not

have to do so. You can deny the request. They then have the right to appeal

to

you the denial. At which time you are required to review it again with a

colleague, and if there is agreement you can subsequently deny the request a

final

and second time.

I am sort of reaching here but is the patient type A, have known cardiac

problems, have delusions of paranoia and persecution which dwelling on

persecuting

you will only aggravate - whereby releasing these files may cause them

undue

stress.

Perhaps contact your boards legal counsel - I wonder where the overlap of

requirements to release informtion to the patient, and the 5th amendment

which

says we do not have to incriminate ourselves lie? If you know, and can

document

(by having the person who told you of this former patients intent to make

you

suffer) that this person only has mailicious intent towards you - would you

have to release your records. Maybe contact your malpractice carrier as well

-

if they have said they intent to make you suffer, then a potential lawsuit

IS

in the making - and they would at least have to go through your carrier to

get

the records ....after hiring an attorney....all of which creates layers

making

getting the records all the more difficult.

I am just thinking out loud here - how about a letter to the patient saying

" I am most happy to release the records, however me thinks I smell a law

suit a

brewin', so I will have to request you hire legal counsel and obtain the

records through my malpractice carrier " . This creates obstacles...going to

an

attorney and having to explain things to them (even if they take the case on

contgency), time for the lawyer to request the files, time for you to copy

them,

time for them to go to your carrier, time to get them to the patient, etc.

Time

cools all things off. By the time the patient gets them, and everyone sees

there is nothing in the files incriminating, then the patient will lose

steam

about persuing it more.

Just thinking outloud....or through the keyboard

Anglen

OregonDCs rules:

1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to

foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve

members will be tolerated.

2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.

3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However,

it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or

otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or

her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

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