Re: China Study and milk proteins

[Guest guest]

>

> I attended a book signing of " The China Study " by T. Colin

> , a Cornell Prof, a few months ago.

>

> Quite a few Seventh Day Adventists showed up, looking glowing and

> beatific. Dr. sees the good health of Seventh Day Adventists as

> supporting his theory that animal proteins are a poision, and that

> vegetarians (particularly vegans) are healthier than others.

>

> has written a series of papers where he observes bad

> outcomes in mice that are fed whey protein (casein) as compared to mouse

> that have protein withdrawn.

Whey protein is not the same thing as casein.

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> He claims that casein is a tumour

> promoter, and that, conversely, protein starvation protects against the

> effects of carcinogens such as benzopyrene.

[Guest guest]

>

> I attended a book signing of " The China Study " by T. Colin

> , a Cornell Prof, a few months ago.

>

> Quite a few Seventh Day Adventists showed up, looking glowing and

> beatific. Dr. sees the good health of Seventh Day Adventists as

> supporting his theory that animal proteins are a poision, and that

> vegetarians (particularly vegans) are healthier than others.

>

> has written a series of papers where he observes bad

> outcomes in mice that are fed whey protein (casein) as compared to mouse

> that have protein withdrawn.

Whey protein is not the same thing as casein.

-

> He claims that casein is a tumour

> promoter, and that, conversely, protein starvation protects against the

> effects of carcinogens such as benzopyrene.

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Right. Is it 's position that it is only casein that is the

problem? I know that in the 1980s he published a number of studies

claiming that liver cancer that had been induced in mice by

aflatoxin, grew faster with a diet high in casein. Some might use

that as a reason to avoid casein. But it is not the same as claiming

that all types of protein CAUSE cancer (as opposed to promoting the

advancement of - feeding it if you like - an already existing cancer.)

So do we know the extent of 's claims about the relationship

between protein and cancer? Cornell must have been impressed by his

credentials.

Rodney.

[And do not forget a study from University College London is overdue

for publication, which is looking at the relative importance of the

restriction of protein and fat in the longevity of Drosophila]

>

>

> Whey protein is not the same thing as casein.

>

> -

>

> > He claims that casein is a tumour

> > promoter, and that, conversely, protein starvation protects

against the

> > effects of carcinogens such as benzopyrene.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Right. Is it 's position that it is only casein that is the

problem? I know that in the 1980s he published a number of studies

claiming that liver cancer that had been induced in mice by

aflatoxin, grew faster with a diet high in casein. Some might use

that as a reason to avoid casein. But it is not the same as claiming

that all types of protein CAUSE cancer (as opposed to promoting the

advancement of - feeding it if you like - an already existing cancer.)

So do we know the extent of 's claims about the relationship

between protein and cancer? Cornell must have been impressed by his

credentials.

Rodney.

[And do not forget a study from University College London is overdue

for publication, which is looking at the relative importance of the

restriction of protein and fat in the longevity of Drosophila]

>

>

> Whey protein is not the same thing as casein.

>

> -

>

> > He claims that casein is a tumour

> > promoter, and that, conversely, protein starvation protects

against the

> > effects of carcinogens such as benzopyrene.

>