Re: Blood Pressure and Vitamin D

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In my chaotic approach, there are mornings when my BP comes in very low, like <120/<70. My last dr office was 124/75, measured by the doc, and I could verify it by watching the gage and feeling the pulse. Also, by the not inflated veins in my forearms.

It's possible if I controlled for vit D, as strictly as you did, it would be there. I've been trying buttermilk which doesn't list Vit D, but my OJ with Ca added does. Today I'm trying grapefruit to see if I really have a reaction with verapamil. I see so many things that go contrary to the average that I hafta try it to believe it.

Grapefruit is one of the things I've been avoiding.

I haven't needed a Ketoprofen pill in more than a week, and I'm not feeling the general pain I used to feel, and I have no explanation for that yet. I do eat most of the things on my Anti-inflam list.

I have "imagined" just eliminating the MV has had an effect, but there's lots of stuff in the MV. Maybe there's an explanation why the Vit D raises BP, like it activates a loop that we want.

My paranoid mind tells me the marketing folks are hyping the extra vit D because they found out something, and they want to pre-empt the idea of reducing it in foods. Vit D has the capacity to poke Ca into places we might not want it, like calcification in the aorta.

I read an article this last week on calcification in a dog, searching on vitamins and <disease>.

It's entirely possible in my limited expertise to envision D being the culprit and not the Ca in several relationships like colon cancer.

Just musing.

Regards

[ ] Blood Pressure and Vitamin D

Hi folks:This will, I think, be my penultimate post on this topic.My one-from-last experiment, over a full three week period, has been to eliminate vitamin D (very nearly) entirely from my diet. During this time I have eaten zero fish; zero mushrooms; zero vitamin D-fortified foods like milk or orange juice; zero multi-vitamins; zero Ca + D. No doubt there have been traces of vitamin D in some of the foods I have eaten. But not much.This morning, in the usual way trying to control for everything else ....... same day of week, same time of day, before eating or drinking anything, same machine, rest five minutes, etc. - I took my blood pressure again. My SBP was as low as I have ever seen it, but not lower - average of six measurements was 107. For my DBP - six measurements - the highest was 60. The rest were all 55 to 59. I do not remember seeing a number under 63 ever before.As previously noted, the implications of the above, if any, for others may be that if you decide to take vitamin D supplements because of their numerous apparent benefits, before doing so get a very good understanding of your blood pressure data before starting the supplements. Then, after a month of supplementing, take your BP again to make sure it is not doing to you what it does to me.In May I will experiment with five to ten minutes sun exposure daily to see whether or not it has a similar effect. It would certainly be nice to get the additional D if there is a way to do it without any negative effects. Of course the American Academy of Dermatology insists that 'even a few minutes' of sun exposure causes cancer.Rodney.

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In my chaotic approach, there are mornings when my BP comes in very low, like <120/<70. My last dr office was 124/75, measured by the doc, and I could verify it by watching the gage and feeling the pulse. Also, by the not inflated veins in my forearms.

It's possible if I controlled for vit D, as strictly as you did, it would be there. I've been trying buttermilk which doesn't list Vit D, but my OJ with Ca added does. Today I'm trying grapefruit to see if I really have a reaction with verapamil. I see so many things that go contrary to the average that I hafta try it to believe it.

Grapefruit is one of the things I've been avoiding.

I haven't needed a Ketoprofen pill in more than a week, and I'm not feeling the general pain I used to feel, and I have no explanation for that yet. I do eat most of the things on my Anti-inflam list.

I have "imagined" just eliminating the MV has had an effect, but there's lots of stuff in the MV. Maybe there's an explanation why the Vit D raises BP, like it activates a loop that we want.

My paranoid mind tells me the marketing folks are hyping the extra vit D because they found out something, and they want to pre-empt the idea of reducing it in foods. Vit D has the capacity to poke Ca into places we might not want it, like calcification in the aorta.

I read an article this last week on calcification in a dog, searching on vitamins and <disease>.

It's entirely possible in my limited expertise to envision D being the culprit and not the Ca in several relationships like colon cancer.

Just musing.

Regards

[ ] Blood Pressure and Vitamin D

Hi folks:This will, I think, be my penultimate post on this topic.My one-from-last experiment, over a full three week period, has been to eliminate vitamin D (very nearly) entirely from my diet. During this time I have eaten zero fish; zero mushrooms; zero vitamin D-fortified foods like milk or orange juice; zero multi-vitamins; zero Ca + D. No doubt there have been traces of vitamin D in some of the foods I have eaten. But not much.This morning, in the usual way trying to control for everything else ....... same day of week, same time of day, before eating or drinking anything, same machine, rest five minutes, etc. - I took my blood pressure again. My SBP was as low as I have ever seen it, but not lower - average of six measurements was 107. For my DBP - six measurements - the highest was 60. The rest were all 55 to 59. I do not remember seeing a number under 63 ever before.As previously noted, the implications of the above, if any, for others may be that if you decide to take vitamin D supplements because of their numerous apparent benefits, before doing so get a very good understanding of your blood pressure data before starting the supplements. Then, after a month of supplementing, take your BP again to make sure it is not doing to you what it does to me.In May I will experiment with five to ten minutes sun exposure daily to see whether or not it has a similar effect. It would certainly be nice to get the additional D if there is a way to do it without any negative effects. Of course the American Academy of Dermatology insists that 'even a few minutes' of sun exposure causes cancer.Rodney.