Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi Sandy: Purely for convenience. Either is fine. But canned fish stays 'fresh' a lot longer if you do not want to go to the store every day to get it, and it needs no cooking/preparation too. I eat a little fish almost every day. Most of it from cans, some frozen and a little 'fresh'. Some people also prefer canned (wild) salmon to fresh (farmed) salmon. But that is not an issue for me. Rodney. > > Hi Rodney, > Quick question, I am fairly new to this also and I would like to know why > canned fish and not fresh fish? Thanks > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi Sandy: Purely for convenience. Either is fine. But canned fish stays 'fresh' a lot longer if you do not want to go to the store every day to get it, and it needs no cooking/preparation too. I eat a little fish almost every day. Most of it from cans, some frozen and a little 'fresh'. Some people also prefer canned (wild) salmon to fresh (farmed) salmon. But that is not an issue for me. Rodney. > > Hi Rodney, > Quick question, I am fairly new to this also and I would like to know why > canned fish and not fresh fish? Thanks > Sandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi : Yes. All canned foods, including fish, is cooked when put in the can to be sure it is sterile and will not rot in the can. Rodney. > > is all canned fish already cooked? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Photos > Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi : Yes. All canned foods, including fish, is cooked when put in the can to be sure it is sterile and will not rot in the can. Rodney. > > is all canned fish already cooked? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Photos > Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi Ken: I have not heard that salmon contains material amounts of mercury. The big issue about a year ago was PCBs - polychlorinated biphenyls. At the time of that flurry of publicity, I emailed the source of the scare 'The Environmental Working Group' and asked them two questions. First, did they agree that the amounts they were complaining about amounted to parts per TRILLION? Yes, spelt with a " T " . Second, did they have any scientific evidence to suggest that parts per trillion might be expected to have any effects on humans? Of course they did not reply. Also of note was that they took care in their press releases not to use the term 'parts per trillion' or billion, or million, or whatever as is usually done, but instead in terms of nanograms per whatever, so that most observers would never realize the microscopically tiny amounts they were trying to create a scare about. I do not know their motivation for this. But some groups like these have found it easier to raise funds to pay themselves fat salaries if they manage to scare a few people, rather than tell them that the amounts are so small as to be difficult to distinguish from zero. For these reasons I tend to assume that the stuff produced by groups of this type is worthless unless I see a good study that has made it into Pubmed. If anyone knows of such studies PLEASE post them. Rodney. > >Some people also prefer canned (wild) salmon to fresh (farmed) > >salmon. But that is not an issue for me. > > Hi, Rodney. Farmed is said to have more dioxin, mercury and other > toxins - and less of the omega-3's and the red Astaxanthin (so they > dye farm raised salmon). You don't buy that? > > -- > > Regards, > > Ken > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi Ken: I have not heard that salmon contains material amounts of mercury. The big issue about a year ago was PCBs - polychlorinated biphenyls. At the time of that flurry of publicity, I emailed the source of the scare 'The Environmental Working Group' and asked them two questions. First, did they agree that the amounts they were complaining about amounted to parts per TRILLION? Yes, spelt with a " T " . Second, did they have any scientific evidence to suggest that parts per trillion might be expected to have any effects on humans? Of course they did not reply. Also of note was that they took care in their press releases not to use the term 'parts per trillion' or billion, or million, or whatever as is usually done, but instead in terms of nanograms per whatever, so that most observers would never realize the microscopically tiny amounts they were trying to create a scare about. I do not know their motivation for this. But some groups like these have found it easier to raise funds to pay themselves fat salaries if they manage to scare a few people, rather than tell them that the amounts are so small as to be difficult to distinguish from zero. For these reasons I tend to assume that the stuff produced by groups of this type is worthless unless I see a good study that has made it into Pubmed. If anyone knows of such studies PLEASE post them. Rodney. > >Some people also prefer canned (wild) salmon to fresh (farmed) > >salmon. But that is not an issue for me. > > Hi, Rodney. Farmed is said to have more dioxin, mercury and other > toxins - and less of the omega-3's and the red Astaxanthin (so they > dye farm raised salmon). You don't buy that? > > -- > > Regards, > > Ken > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hi Ken: Well if the only reason I was eating fish was for the EPA and DHA I guess I would take the fish oil capsules (but see qualification below) instead of the fish. I eat a little fish almost every day because a number of societies around the world that are comparatively healthy are islands - Crete, Japan - and eat fish rather than fish oil capsules. There is at least one study (Physicians Health Study) which concluded it was not the oil. Can't comment on the astaxanthin, I know nothing about it. My point is that I do not feel sheepish about eating and/or serving guests a whole poached salmon occasionally whether it is fresh or farmed. Until I see some good evidence from a credible source, I do not believe farmed salmon is harmful, especially when I eat it only once every couple of months. I haven't tried serving guests poached canned salmon .......... but it wouldn't look very good on the platter! The majority of the fish I eat is canned simply for reasons of convenience. Saying one should not eat farmed salmon because it does not have as much x or y as wild salmon, is a bit like saying one should not eat canned green beans because fresh green beans contain more nutrients. Sure fresh green beans (or fresh anything) are an excellent source of nutrients. But canned green beans are very nearly as good if the other is not conveniently available. But we all make our own decisions about these things, and if a good study turns up tomorrow it might cause me to stop eating farmed salmon. For that matter there might be a study come out tomorrow that would cause me to stop eating canned salmon. There is a lot we still do not know about all food products. For a start, there are fats (myristic for example) in both fish and in fish oil capsules that I would prefer not to eat .............. check nutritiondata.com for the types and amounts of the various fats in any kind of fish. If they had fish oil capsules that contained ONLY EPA and DHA I would be interested. But I have never come across any. As far as I know there aren't any. And perhaps it isn't only the EPA and DHA that is beneficial in fish. Rodney. > >But some groups like these > >have found it easier to raise funds to pay themselves fat salaries if > >they manage to scare a few people, rather than tell them that the > >amounts are so small as to be difficult to distinguish from zero. > > Thanks, I feel I should have known that. > > What about the flip side? The claim that farmed salmon are lower in > omega-3's and astaxanthin? > > -- > > Regards, > > Ken > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hi Ken: Well if the only reason I was eating fish was for the EPA and DHA I guess I would take the fish oil capsules (but see qualification below) instead of the fish. I eat a little fish almost every day because a number of societies around the world that are comparatively healthy are islands - Crete, Japan - and eat fish rather than fish oil capsules. There is at least one study (Physicians Health Study) which concluded it was not the oil. Can't comment on the astaxanthin, I know nothing about it. My point is that I do not feel sheepish about eating and/or serving guests a whole poached salmon occasionally whether it is fresh or farmed. Until I see some good evidence from a credible source, I do not believe farmed salmon is harmful, especially when I eat it only once every couple of months. I haven't tried serving guests poached canned salmon .......... but it wouldn't look very good on the platter! The majority of the fish I eat is canned simply for reasons of convenience. Saying one should not eat farmed salmon because it does not have as much x or y as wild salmon, is a bit like saying one should not eat canned green beans because fresh green beans contain more nutrients. Sure fresh green beans (or fresh anything) are an excellent source of nutrients. But canned green beans are very nearly as good if the other is not conveniently available. But we all make our own decisions about these things, and if a good study turns up tomorrow it might cause me to stop eating farmed salmon. For that matter there might be a study come out tomorrow that would cause me to stop eating canned salmon. There is a lot we still do not know about all food products. For a start, there are fats (myristic for example) in both fish and in fish oil capsules that I would prefer not to eat .............. check nutritiondata.com for the types and amounts of the various fats in any kind of fish. If they had fish oil capsules that contained ONLY EPA and DHA I would be interested. But I have never come across any. As far as I know there aren't any. And perhaps it isn't only the EPA and DHA that is beneficial in fish. Rodney. > >But some groups like these > >have found it easier to raise funds to pay themselves fat salaries if > >they manage to scare a few people, rather than tell them that the > >amounts are so small as to be difficult to distinguish from zero. > > Thanks, I feel I should have known that. > > What about the flip side? The claim that farmed salmon are lower in > omega-3's and astaxanthin? > > -- > > Regards, > > Ken > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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