Re: Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

[Guest guest]

I'm lucky--these things aren't usually a problem with Macs (so far, at any rate). I use antivirus software anyway because I get it free through school but it just slows down my computer and doesn't seem to do much. Better safe than sorry, though.

Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

I am currently using trend micro software for protecting computer, I found years ago that www.royaldiscount.com sells very inexpensive software. I have more than one computer also so having protection for more than one machine was a plus though even if you don't have more than one it is a great price. It protects from spam, viruses, malware, has a firewall, all of it and it's the most user friendly software. And no I have no connection to royaldiscount. Just like to see people taken care of. The trend micro is such a good company. I had their internet protection 2010 and when their new titanium 2011 came out they gave it for free. Just checked it's $19 for a 3 machine disc.

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> This happened to me once - my account was hijacked and spam was sent from my machine. It infuriated me because I could hear my machine churning out the spam and I would get tons of "bounce backs" when the spam went to bad addresses. I called my cable provider and told them what was going on and somehow they stopped it.

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> Blessings,

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you're talking about shareware programs that do indeed nag

you to buy after the trial period.

I recommend the free version of AVG http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage

Have used AVG for over a decade.

Zone Alarm is a good firewall.

http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/anti-virus-spyware-free-download.htm

I stay away from Norton products, in my experience, bloatware that

slows down your confuser... almost impossible to remove...

It's foolish to 'pute without basic protection nowadays.

Chuck

People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them

lin said it first.

On 1/7/2011 8:00:47 PM, Sunshine (lightlady27@...) wrote:

> There are indeed excellent free versions of antivirus, antimalware,

> antispyware and firewall. They all however like to pop up and say hello

> to you from time to time which is why I use the other stuff LOL. You need

> all of them too nowadays sadly.

>

> Page

>

>

> >

> > Kathy,

> > Those are the symptoms of that your

> 'puter has been infected by a

> > trojan/worm/virus.

> >

> > You need to have it swept by antivirus software or taken to a geek.

> > Here is a good place to start for FREE programs:

> > http://www.komando.com/securitycenter/

> >

> > Chuck

> > I considered atheism, but there weren't

> enough holidays.

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, there's malware for Macs (has been since I started using them in the '90s but always easy to avoid) but nothing serious so far; if I'm not mistaken, the only virus that got anywhere (again, years ago) caused smileys to pop up at random--not really a big deal. Word spreads pretty quickly in the Mac community plus given that the OS is UNIX-based, it's usually too much effort to bother writing viruses, although there are those who also run Windows on their Macs (go figure); they're at greater risk.

I'm working (VERY slowly) towards a Ph.D. in philosophy.

Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

Unfortunately the creeps who write all that stuff have been paying attention to Macs now also yep. Used to be you could use firefox and not get much but I guess the streets are meaner now. What are you studying? Please forgive if you've mentioned before I'm getting way too much email these days.

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> I'm lucky--these things aren't usually a problem with Macs (so far, at any rate). I use antivirus software anyway because I get it free through school but it just slows down my computer and doesn't seem to do much. Better safe than sorry, though.

[Guest guest]

You reminded me of something funny (sorry guys but it does state OT). One of my professors has been a Mac guy since the days when buying an Apple involved soldering your own circuit board. He was especially happy when Apple made the transition to OS X because he could correct his students' UNIX homework on his personal computer. Anyhow, I thought it might be fun a few laptops ago to partition my hard drive so that I could install Linux (I think it was Red Dog at the time) to play around with and asked my professor what he thought. He STARED at me without saying anything--kinda like I'd spoken gibberish--and replied in the manner one reserves for mentally challenged nieces and nephews, "Why? You're running UNIX."

I forced a sickly smile, changed the subject to classic movies, never brought it up again, and continue to restrict my use of Linux to our research office and the public computers in the math lounge.

Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

Cool! One of my best friends got one, he was so funny he said he quit putting it on resumes. I think he finally found it to be useful for teaching!

I liked Ubuntu (linux) but don't have it on any of my systems now. Windows does some things that others don't, all depends on what you were going to do on computter.

I just like to see people not have to pay a technician $90 an hour to fix something that can be prevented!

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> Yeah, there's malware for Macs (has been since I started using them in the '90s but always easy to avoid) but nothing serious so far; if I'm not mistaken, the only virus that got anywhere (again, years ago) caused smileys to pop up at random--not really a big deal. Word spreads pretty quickly in the Mac community plus given that the OS is UNIX-based, it's usually too much effort to bother writing viruses, although there are those who also run Windows on their Macs (go figure); they're at greater risk.

>

> I'm working (VERY slowly) towards a Ph.D. in philosophy.

[Guest guest]

Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

If you know other Apple people, that would be a common sort of reaction, at least it is in those I've known. I have to say here that all the artists I know use them because of superior graphics but for run o the mill users, yep, that would be typical. Tooo funny!

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> You reminded me of something funny (sorry guys but it does state OT). One of my professors has been a Mac guy since the days when buying an Apple involved soldering your own circuit board. He was especially happy when Apple made the transition to OS X because he could correct his students' UNIX homework on his personal computer. Anyhow, I thought it might be fun a few laptops ago to partition my hard drive so that I could install Linux (I think it was Red Dog at the time) to play around with and asked my professor what he thought. He STARED at me without saying anything--kinda like I'd spoken gibberish--and replied in the manner one reserves for mentally challenged nieces and nephews, "Why? You're running UNIX."

> I forced a sickly smile, changed the subject to classic movies, never brought it up again, and continue to restrict my use of Linux to our research office and the public computers in the math lounge.

>

>

[Guest guest]

A scientist asks " why does this happen? " , and engineer asks " how does this

happen? " , and a liberal arts major asks " would you like fries with that? "

;-)

I'm a network engineer, with heavy unix/linux/xenix background.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:03:46 -0500, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

> Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

>

>

>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

It doesn't really matter much anymore. They all do pretty much the same

things, and the same abilities are available for each platform. Windows

still has the most game support.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:29:20 -0500, Sunshine <lightlady27@...> wrote:

> Well it is my understanding that what you use depends on what you are

> using it for. Each OS has its own strengths and suchlike. And it's

> sure not my area of expertise.

>

> Page

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>

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>> Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

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>

>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Mine either--I've picked up a fair amount by osmosis because my discipline dictates that I "live" more in CS than philosophy but actual expertise? Nah!

Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

Well it is my understanding that what you use depends on what you are using it for. Each OS has its own strengths and suchlike. And it's sure not my area of expertise.

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> Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

[Guest guest]

Oh, I don't know...I walked into my adviser's office last semester while he was trying repeatedly attempting to coax his Dell into performing some simple task. He finally turned to me and said in disgust, "Microsoft thinks this is SO sophisticated." (He's a fairly recent Mac convert.)

Re: Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

It doesn't really matter much anymore. They all do pretty much the same

things, and the same abilities are available for each platform. Windows

still has the most game support.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:29:20 -0500, Sunshine <lightlady27@...> wrote:

> Well it is my understanding that what you use depends on what you are

> using it for. Each OS has its own strengths and suchlike. And it's

> sure not my area of expertise.

>

> Page

>

>

>>

>> Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

[Guest guest]

On my personal pc I use linux, my wife uses Windows, and I support a bunch

of mac users. Lately I've been spending time with my arduino's and my

kindle.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:45:58 -0500, Sunshine <lightlady27@...> wrote:

> That's what my son told me when I asked him which OS I ought to be

> using; he is a computer guru type person who likes gaming. I have to

> confess I never liked computer games but my high school friends got me

> playing farmville on facebook. Astonishing how many people are playing.

>

> Read some article that flash is heading out and HTML5 will be the

> replacement, that ought to cause some ructions. I like to see how they

> are programmed but never played anything before.

>

> What do you use Steve?

>

> Ever curious

> Page

>

>

>>

>> It doesn't really matter much anymore. They all do pretty much the same

>> things, and the same abilities are available for each platform. Windows

>> still has the most game support.

>>

>>

>> Steve Spence

>> Renewable energy and self sufficiency

>> http://www.green-trust.org

>> http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

>>

>

>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

Yes, my macs also will run windows but I never do. I have two friends who

recently converted to Macs and they were worried about the learning curve. They

each thought they were going to be calling me all the time for help. They

haven't had to. Only one call, she needed to be told our command key works like

the control key on a windows box. After that all was fine.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 8, 2011, at 9:31 AM, " Steve Spence " <greentrust@...> wrote:

> It doesn't really matter much anymore. They all do pretty much the same

> things, and the same abilities are available for each platform. Windows

> still has the most game support.

>

>

> On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:29:20 -0500, Sunshine <lightlady27@...> wrote:

>

>> Well it is my understanding that what you use depends on what you are

>> using it for. Each OS has its own strengths and suchlike. And it's

>> sure not my area of expertise.

>>

>> Page

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

> --

>

> Steve Spence

> Renewable energy and self sufficiency

> http://www.green-trust.org

> http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said "Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once."

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

Re: Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

Yes, my macs also will run windows but I never do. I have two friends who recently converted to Macs and they were worried about the learning curve. They each thought they were going to be calling me all the time for help. They haven't had to. Only one call, she needed to be told our command key works like the control key on a windows box. After that all was fine.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 8, 2011, at 9:31 AM, "Steve Spence" <greentrust@...> wrote:

> It doesn't really matter much anymore. They all do pretty much the same

> things, and the same abilities are available for each platform. Windows

> still has the most game support.

>

>

> On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:29:20 -0500, Sunshine <lightlady27@...> wrote:

>

>> Well it is my understanding that what you use depends on what you are

>> using it for. Each OS has its own strengths and suchlike. And it's

>> sure not my area of expertise.

>>

>> Page

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Ah, but he's not a run-of-the-mill user--he's a computer scientist.

[Guest guest]

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think they are worth the price?

 

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said " Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once. "

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

 

[Guest guest]

I have a Macbook Pro and can not say enough good things about it.  It is so intuitive...I will never go back to a PC  but I do not desire the Windows partition on it either.  If I was partial to that I might price shop more closely.  I do not miss Windows at all!  Pam

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

 

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think they are worth the price?

 

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said " Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once. "

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

 

[Guest guest]

Some people think so.

I never thought the higher price worth it.

Turned out to be a windows world anyway, so I'm glad I stayed PC.

Chuck

Even under ideal conditions people have trouble locating their car

keys in a pocket, finding their cell phone, and Pinning the Tail on

the Donkey - but I'd bet everyone can find and push the snooze button

from 3 feet away, in about 1.7 seconds, eyes closed, first time, every

time!

On 1/8/2011 7:01:10 PM, asummers asummers (asummers@...)

wrote:

> I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---

> gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think they

> are worth the price?

>  

> Stacey

>

[Guest guest]

I think they are. But I'm a long time mac person. The people to ask are new owners that have switched from windows to macs. I have two friends who recently became mac owners because they were feed up with virus attacks. It was costing them in tech fees to get their computers cleaned. They don't have that worry now.TerrySent from my iPadOn Jan 8, 2011, at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!! Do you really think they are worth the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said "Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once."

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

[Guest guest]

Well maybe my question should be this....I absolutely HATE getting a new computer.  Would a Mac laptop likely last longer than something 1/2 the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Terry Pogue <tpogue@...> wrote:

 

I think they are. But I'm a long time mac person. The people to ask are new owners that have switched from windows to macs. I have two friends who recently became mac owners because they were feed up with virus attacks. It was costing them in tech fees to get their computers cleaned. They don't have that worry now.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think they are worth the price?

 

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said " Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once. "

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

 

[Guest guest]

Dunno how long windows machine but I have two macs over ten years old that work fine. The screen resolution is not great, not like the new retinal display but they run. Wait I just gave one to a friend for her college kid. He needed a basic computer.TerrySent from my iPadOn Jan 8, 2011, at 7:17 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

Well maybe my question should be this....I absolutely HATE getting a new computer. Would a Mac laptop likely last longer than something 1/2 the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Terry Pogue <tpogue@...> wrote:

I think they are. But I'm a long time mac person. The people to ask are new owners that have switched from windows to macs. I have two friends who recently became mac owners because they were feed up with virus attacks. It was costing them in tech fees to get their computers cleaned. They don't have that worry now.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!! Do you really think they are worth the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said "Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once."

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

[Guest guest]

Ten years sounds pretty good to me!

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Pogue <tpogue@...> wrote:

 

Dunno how long windows machine but I have two macs over ten years old that work fine. The screen resolution is not great, not like the new retinal display but they run. Wait I just gave one to a friend for her college kid. He needed a basic computer.

TerrySent from my iPad

On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:17 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

Well maybe my question should be this....I absolutely HATE getting a new computer.  Would a Mac laptop likely last longer than something 1/2 the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Terry Pogue <tpogue@...> wrote:

 

I think they are. But I'm a long time mac person. The people to ask are new owners that have switched from windows to macs. I have two friends who recently became mac owners because they were feed up with virus attacks. It was costing them in tech fees to get their computers cleaned. They don't have that worry now.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think they are worth the price?

 

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said " Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once. "

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

 

[Guest guest]

Oh, yes and you can always buy refurbished as well if you want to save some money. Make sure you buy AppleCare. You have 90 days of unlimited phone support and your warranty's good for a year but AppleCare will extend your warranty for another two years and give you unlimited phone support, too. You can buy it anytime within a year of buying your computer.

If you decide to go the Mac route, I can also recommend some material to help get you over the hump. Go to the Apple Store online and check out what they have and then, if you don't qualify for an academic discount and if you don't want a refurbished machine, I recommend buying through PowerMax. They're a Mac-only vendor and have been around for quite a while and they really know their stuff (talk to Heidi). They're also in Oregon and you won't have to pay sales tax if you buy through them.

Re: Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!! Do you really think they are worth the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said "Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once."

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

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Thanks !!  I will check them out. 

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:35 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

Oh, yes and you can always buy refurbished as well if you want to save some money. Make sure you buy AppleCare. You have 90 days of unlimited phone support and your warranty's good for a year but AppleCare will extend your warranty for another two years and give you unlimited phone support, too. You can buy it anytime within a year of buying your computer.

If you decide to go the Mac route, I can also recommend some material to help get you over the hump. Go to the Apple Store online and check out what they have and then, if you don't qualify for an academic discount and if you don't want a refurbished machine, I recommend buying through PowerMax. They're a Mac-only vendor and have been around for quite a while and they really know their stuff (talk to Heidi). They're also in Oregon and you won't have to pay sales tax if you buy through them.

Re: Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

 

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think they are worth the price?

 

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

 

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said " Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once. "

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

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[Guest guest]

Yes. No question.

Re: Re: OT: Seems emails have been coming from me but not really ME

Well maybe my question should be this....I absolutely HATE getting a new computer. Would a Mac laptop likely last longer than something 1/2 the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Terry Pogue <tpogue@...> wrote:

I think they are. But I'm a long time mac person. The people to ask are new owners that have switched from windows to macs. I have two friends who recently became mac owners because they were feed up with virus attacks. It was costing them in tech fees to get their computers cleaned. They don't have that worry now.

Terry

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On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...> wrote:

I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!! Do you really think they are worth the price?

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said "Macs are like the smart kid in school who only needs to be told something once."

It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money. Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be obnoxious years ago.

I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

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If they had decent AV installed, they wouldn't have had tech fees or

headaches.

I run linux, so I have less to worry about in that regard, but I keep my

wifes windows machine clean with no problems. She uses AVG.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:12:49 -0500, Terry Pogue <tpogue@...> wrote:

> I think they are. But I'm a long time mac person. The people to ask are

> new owners that have switched from windows to macs. I have two friends

> who recently became mac owners because they were feed up with virus

> attacks. It was costing them in tech fees to get their computers

> cleaned. They don't have that worry now.

> Terry

>

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Jan 8, 2011, at 7:01 PM, asummers asummers <asummers@...>

> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the

>> Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!! Do you really

>> think they are worth the price?

>>

>> Stacey

>>

>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, <kareningotham@...> wrote:

>>

>> I think that to run Windows you need to install Boot Camp (and possibly

>> dedicate a partition?). It's something I'm aware of but that doesn't

>> interest me. When it came time to invest in a home computer many years

>> ago, I asked colleagues whose opinions I respected whether to go with a

>> Mac or a PC. One person put it best; she said " Macs are like the smart

>> kid in school who only needs to be told something once. "

>> It's a Windows world out there, though, primarily because of money.

>> Apple only briefly shared their platform with other hardware

>> manufacturers and their own hardware tends to be much more expensive

>> than PCs. I find that it holds up a lot longer in general, though, and

>> can be updated effectively for a lot longer. The attitude of their

>> technical support seems to have improved lately as well--they could be

>> obnoxious years ago.

>> I have Office on my laptop, despite the fact that it leaves me

>> scratching my head. I need it, so I suck it up and deal. I preferred

>> WordPerfect but they haven't had a Mac presence since the OS 8 days.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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I don't think so. A $500 sony vaio (dvd, hdmi, webcam, etc.) and ubuntu

linux will do you for years.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:01:10 -0500, asummers asummers

<asummers@...> wrote:

> I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the

> Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!! Do you really think

> they are worth the price?

>

> Stacey

>

>

--

Steve Spence

Renewable energy and self sufficiency

http://www.green-trust.org

http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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See Steve--part of my problem---I have NO idea what this means. LOL

Stacey

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Steve Spence <greentrust@...> wrote:

I don't think so. A $500 sony vaio (dvd, hdmi, webcam, etc.) and ubuntulinux will do you for years.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:01:10 -0500, asummers asummers

<asummers@...> wrote:> I have been looking to buy a laptop and have been interested in the> Mac---gotta say the price has been holding me back!!  Do you really think

> they are worth the price?>> Stacey>>

--Steve SpenceRenewable energy and self sufficiencyhttp://www.green-trust.orghttp://arduinotronics.blogspot.com

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