Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 http://news./s/space/20060323/sc_space/sleepdeprivationthegreatamerican\ myth People who get only 6 to 7 hours a night have a lower death rate than those who get 8 hours of sleep. —From a six-year study of more than a million adults Many Americans are sleep-deprived zombies, and a quarter of us now use some form of sleeping pill or aid at night. Wake up, says psychiatry professor Kripke of the University of California, San Diego. The pill-taking is real but the refrain that Americans are sleep deprived originates largely from people funded by the drug industry or with financial interests in sleep research clinics. " They think that scaring people about sleep increases their income, " Kripke told LiveScience. Thanks to the marketing of less addictive drugs directly to consumers, sleeping pills have become a hot commodity, especially in the past five years. People worldwide spent $2 billion on the most popular sleeping pill, Ambien (zolpidem), in 2004, according to the BioMarket, a biotech research company. Earlier this month, it was reported that some Ambien users are susceptible to amnesia and walking in their sleep. Some even ate in the middle of the night without realizing it. Global sales for all sleeping pills, called hypnotics, will top $5 billion in the next several years. The number of adults aged 20-44 using sleeping pills doubled from 2000 to 2004, according to Medco Health Solutions, a managed care company. Sleep problems are commonly reported in the elderly, but the increase in spending on sleeping pills was highest in this period for 10-19 year olds, possibly due to an association with medication for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hi folks: Interesting study. But I wonder if the significance of it may be entirely different from what it appears to be on the surface. Does it really mean that people who feel they need eight hours of sleep a night will live longer if they make sure to set their alarm to be woken after only 6½ hours ................ and walk around in a daze all day in consequence? There is a possible alternative explanation. After starting CRON many people notice they do not need as much sleep as before. Might the explanation of the study findings be that people who eat fewer calories than average both need less sleep and live longer, while those who eat too many calories have shorter lifespans (as we all know) and find they need more sleep? If this is the case, then the observed inverse association between sleep and lifespan may be mediated by the level of caloric intake. I do not have an strong opinion on this because I have not seen a study that controlled for this factor. Perhaps this study did, but I haven't seen it. My (unreliable) intuition tells me that getting what seems like inadequate sleep is unlikely to be healthy. Rodney. > > http://news./s/space/20060323/sc_space/sleepdeprivationthegre atamericanmyth > > > People who get only 6 to 7 hours a night have a lower death rate than > those who get 8 hours of sleep. —From a six-year study of more than a > million adults > > Many Americans are sleep-deprived zombies, and a quarter of us now use > some form of sleeping pill or aid at night. > > Wake up, says psychiatry professor Kripke of the University of > California, San Diego. The pill-taking is real but the refrain that > Americans are sleep deprived originates largely from people funded by > the drug industry or with financial interests in sleep research clinics. > > " They think that scaring people about sleep increases their income, " > Kripke told LiveScience. > > Thanks to the marketing of less addictive drugs directly to consumers, > sleeping pills have become a hot commodity, especially in the past > five years. People worldwide spent $2 billion on the most popular > sleeping pill, Ambien (zolpidem), in 2004, according to the BioMarket, > a biotech research company. > > Earlier this month, it was reported that some Ambien users are > susceptible to amnesia and walking in their sleep. Some even ate in > the middle of the night without realizing it. > > Global sales for all sleeping pills, called hypnotics, will top $5 > billion in the next several years. > > The number of adults aged 20-44 using sleeping pills doubled from 2000 > to 2004, according to Medco Health Solutions, a managed care company. > Sleep problems are commonly reported in the elderly, but the increase > in spending on sleeping pills was highest in this period for 10-19 > year olds, possibly due to an association with medication for > attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hi folks: Interesting study. But I wonder if the significance of it may be entirely different from what it appears to be on the surface. Does it really mean that people who feel they need eight hours of sleep a night will live longer if they make sure to set their alarm to be woken after only 6½ hours ................ and walk around in a daze all day in consequence? There is a possible alternative explanation. After starting CRON many people notice they do not need as much sleep as before. Might the explanation of the study findings be that people who eat fewer calories than average both need less sleep and live longer, while those who eat too many calories have shorter lifespans (as we all know) and find they need more sleep? If this is the case, then the observed inverse association between sleep and lifespan may be mediated by the level of caloric intake. I do not have an strong opinion on this because I have not seen a study that controlled for this factor. Perhaps this study did, but I haven't seen it. My (unreliable) intuition tells me that getting what seems like inadequate sleep is unlikely to be healthy. Rodney. > > http://news./s/space/20060323/sc_space/sleepdeprivationthegre atamericanmyth > > > People who get only 6 to 7 hours a night have a lower death rate than > those who get 8 hours of sleep. —From a six-year study of more than a > million adults > > Many Americans are sleep-deprived zombies, and a quarter of us now use > some form of sleeping pill or aid at night. > > Wake up, says psychiatry professor Kripke of the University of > California, San Diego. The pill-taking is real but the refrain that > Americans are sleep deprived originates largely from people funded by > the drug industry or with financial interests in sleep research clinics. > > " They think that scaring people about sleep increases their income, " > Kripke told LiveScience. > > Thanks to the marketing of less addictive drugs directly to consumers, > sleeping pills have become a hot commodity, especially in the past > five years. People worldwide spent $2 billion on the most popular > sleeping pill, Ambien (zolpidem), in 2004, according to the BioMarket, > a biotech research company. > > Earlier this month, it was reported that some Ambien users are > susceptible to amnesia and walking in their sleep. Some even ate in > the middle of the night without realizing it. > > Global sales for all sleeping pills, called hypnotics, will top $5 > billion in the next several years. > > The number of adults aged 20-44 using sleeping pills doubled from 2000 > to 2004, according to Medco Health Solutions, a managed care company. > Sleep problems are commonly reported in the elderly, but the increase > in spending on sleeping pills was highest in this period for 10-19 > year olds, possibly due to an association with medication for > attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Good point assuming there's any significance at all... There are well documented problems from extreme sleep deficit, and too much can be symptomatic of other issues, but self reporting sleep patterns can be about as reliable as self reporting energy intake. Sleep may be one of the few things that worrying about it too much can negatively affect it. I found " The promise of Sleep " by Dr. Dement a good read on the general subject. Micro-managing sleep may be as much a waste of time as micro-managing anything else. JR There is plenty Rodney wrote: > Hi folks: > > Interesting study. But I wonder if the significance of it may be > entirely different from what it appears to be on the surface. > > Does it really mean that people who feel they need eight hours of > sleep a night will live longer if they make sure to set their alarm > to be woken after only 6½ hours ................ and walk around > in a daze all day in consequence? > > There is a possible alternative explanation. After starting CRON > many people notice they do not need as much sleep as before. > > Might the explanation of the study findings be that people who eat > fewer calories than average both need less sleep and live longer, > while those who eat too many calories have shorter lifespans (as we > all know) and find they need more sleep? > > If this is the case, then the observed inverse association between > sleep and lifespan may be mediated by the level of caloric intake. > > I do not have an strong opinion on this because I have not seen a > study that controlled for this factor. Perhaps this study did, but I > haven't seen it. My (unreliable) intuition tells me that getting > what seems like inadequate sleep is unlikely to be healthy. > > Rodney. > > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Good point assuming there's any significance at all... There are well documented problems from extreme sleep deficit, and too much can be symptomatic of other issues, but self reporting sleep patterns can be about as reliable as self reporting energy intake. Sleep may be one of the few things that worrying about it too much can negatively affect it. I found " The promise of Sleep " by Dr. Dement a good read on the general subject. Micro-managing sleep may be as much a waste of time as micro-managing anything else. JR There is plenty Rodney wrote: > Hi folks: > > Interesting study. But I wonder if the significance of it may be > entirely different from what it appears to be on the surface. > > Does it really mean that people who feel they need eight hours of > sleep a night will live longer if they make sure to set their alarm > to be woken after only 6½ hours ................ and walk around > in a daze all day in consequence? > > There is a possible alternative explanation. After starting CRON > many people notice they do not need as much sleep as before. > > Might the explanation of the study findings be that people who eat > fewer calories than average both need less sleep and live longer, > while those who eat too many calories have shorter lifespans (as we > all know) and find they need more sleep? > > If this is the case, then the observed inverse association between > sleep and lifespan may be mediated by the level of caloric intake. > > I do not have an strong opinion on this because I have not seen a > study that controlled for this factor. Perhaps this study did, but I > haven't seen it. My (unreliable) intuition tells me that getting > what seems like inadequate sleep is unlikely to be healthy. > > Rodney. > > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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