Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 In message <dglq9f+pcpueGroups> you wrote: > Hi all, > > the bubbles that are forming are actually pushing the scoby out of the > liquid. What should I do? Leave it to get on with its job. This is quite a normal sort of happening in the brewing process and won't hurt the culture :-) > It's a batch started on fridaymorning, so > only 3 days old (it's my 3th brew, this one with black and green tea in > a 50/50 mix). No problem! > Ah, and is KT good for problems with the lungs and trachea? Does it > reestablish a good intestinal flora? Yes, definitely, Vera! All the best, and don't worry! :-) Margret -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Faith is the ability to see God in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Margret, Hi there! How was your weekend? Well I just wanted to let you know that my first batch was a sucess! Although it was very small amount, I am trying for bigger and better. Adding the vinegar changed the taste of the tea to better than without. Well I find it better to my liking. I have started a new bigger batch. We'll see what happens. Anyway, I was just wondering who was the list leader? And is there anyway that I might get my mom on the list? Shes very curious to start the tea. Her email is Seximother@.... I gave her the name! LOL Her name is Fran and she is 61 living very near me in Texas. Thats just a little info so you know who she is. Thanks for all of your help! Talk to you soon! Your Pal in Texas, Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 The bubbles that are forming are probably from you moving the brew around. Unless you are making a continual ferment, it is best to make your brew and set it aside for 8 days. That way the SCOBY doesn't get moved. It is CO2 on or in your SCOBY that forms if the SCOBY gets moved. There is nothing to worry about, just leave it alone, or cover the top of the SCOBY with a little Kombucha. The only problem with bubbles forming is that you don't get that Perfect Looking SCOBY. Okay, so? Sasha -- bubbles... Hi all, the bubbles that are forming are actually pushing the scoby out of the liquid. What should I do? It's a batch started on fridaymorning, so only 3 days old (it's my 3th brew, this one with black and green tea in a 50/50 mix). Ah, and is KT good for problems with the lungs and trachea? Does it reestablish a good intestinal flora? love, Vera in Belgium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi Margret, ah, thanks. My friend pushes it back under, but it only took a few hours to get lifted up again... ;o) Somewhere I read to put something on a scoby to keep it under to make a babyscoby grow seperately. What would you put on the mother? love, Vera in Belgium > > > Hi all, > > > > the bubbles that are forming are actually pushing the scoby out of the > > liquid. What should I do? > Leave it to get on with its job. This is quite a normal sort of happening > in the brewing process and won't hurt the culture :-) > > > It's a batch started on fridaymorning, so > > only 3 days old (it's my 3th brew, this one with black and green tea in > > a 50/50 mix). > No problem! > > > Ah, and is KT good for problems with the lungs and trachea? Does it > > reestablish a good intestinal flora? > Yes, definitely, Vera! > > All the best, and don't worry! :-) > > Margret > > -- > +---------------------------------------------------------------+ > Minstrel@t... > <)))<>< www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< > +---------------------------------------------------------------+ > Faith is the ability to see God in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi Sasha, nope, that definately is not the case. After I put the scoby on top of the new sugared tea, I put it on its spot and don't touch it. It must be the forming of the CO2 that lifts it that much up. Lovely things!! I'm starting a parallel second batch tonight. Someone mentioned (I'm sorry, but I loose track with all those names and stories) about her adopted indian son who stopped drinking it because the caffeine in it kept him awake. So if I'm correct, all the cafeine of the black or green tea is preserved in de KT? love, VEra in Belgium > The bubbles that are forming are probably from you moving the brew around. > Unless you are making a continual ferment, it is best to make your brew and > set it aside for 8 days. That way the SCOBY doesn't get moved. It is CO2 > on or in your SCOBY that forms if the SCOBY gets moved. There is nothing to > worry about, just leave it alone, or cover the top of the SCOBY with a > little Kombucha. The only problem with bubbles forming is that you don't > get that Perfect Looking SCOBY. Okay, so? > Sasha > > -- bubbles... > > Hi all, > > the bubbles that are forming are actually pushing the scoby out of the > liquid. What should I do? It's a batch started on fridaymorning, so > only 3 days old (it's my 3th brew, this one with black and green tea in > a 50/50 mix). > > Ah, and is KT good for problems with the lungs and trachea? Does it > reestablish a good intestinal flora? > > love, Vera > in Belgium > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi Vera, Everytime I try to put something on the mother scoby to hold her down...she squirms out from underneath. I haven't figured out how she does it yet but I wake up in the morning and she's moved. After a couple of days, she's free. So I just hold her down at the bottom when I start the brew and then let her do her own thing. (SE Ohio, USA) --- vera_chiara <vera-wagemans@...> wrote: > Hi Margret, > > ah, thanks. My friend pushes it back under, but it only > took a few > hours to get lifted up again... ;o) > > Somewhere I read to put something on a scoby to keep it > under to make > a babyscoby grow seperately. What would you put on the > mother? > > love, > Vera > in Belgium > __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Could be. It's my theory that caffeine is used as a secondary source of nitrogen when no other is available. For the average recipe it would probably take at least 3 weeks before the caffeine level began to drop. The shortest period I read where levels dropped I believe was 19 days with a 10% drop. The others I saw were over longer periods (3+ weeks) with the largest drop reported to be 25%. - Len Re: bubbles... So if I'm correct, all the cafeine of the black or green tea is preserved in de KT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 caffeine levels... I'm very sensitive to caffeine and the kt does not cause me any problems. I've noticed though that some recipes are much heavier on the tea portion than others. My recipe (Tietze book... I'd found it at a rummage sale) is for 2 tsp loose tea (or 2 teabags) for a 1-gal jar batch (which is about 3 quarts of liquid total). My kt is great tasting and is steadily improving my health, so I believe the lesser amount that I'm using is enough. -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 caffeine levels... I'm very sensitive to caffeine and the kt does not cause me any problems. I've noticed though that some recipes are much heavier on the tea portion than others. My recipe (Tietze book... I'd found it at a rummage sale) is for 2 tsp loose tea (or 2 teabags) for a 1-gal jar batch (which is about 3 quarts of liquid total). My kt is great tasting and is steadily improving my health, so I believe the lesser amount that I'm using is enough. -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi , is tsp = teaspoon? and I believe 1 gallon is 5 litres, am I correct? If that is the case then indeed yours is a much less concentrated brew. love, Vera in Belgium RE: bubbles... caffeine levels... I'm very sensitive to caffeine and the kt does not cause me any problems. I've noticed though that some recipes are much heavier on the tea portion than others. My recipe (Tietze book... I'd found it at a rummage sale) is for 2 tsp loose tea (or 2 teabags) for a 1-gal jar batch (which is about 3 quarts of liquid total). My kt is great tasting and is steadily improving my health, so I believe the lesser amount that I'm using is enough. -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 A gallon is 4 liter and a tsp is a teaspoon but not the teaspoons that we use in the Dutch or Belgie When i first came to the usa and saw the teaspoons I had to think on the danty spoons we used in the netherlands and it toke my a long time to get used to it i thought for sure they used soup spoons. lol ct Vera Wagemans <vera-wagemans@...> wrote: Hi , is tsp = teaspoon? and I believe 1 gallon is 5 litres, am I correct? If that is the case then indeed yours is a much less concentrated brew. love, Vera in Belgium RE: bubbles... caffeine levels... I'm very sensitive to caffeine and the kt does not cause me any problems. I've noticed though that some recipes are much heavier on the tea portion than others. My recipe (Tietze book... I'd found it at a rummage sale) is for 2 tsp loose tea (or 2 teabags) for a 1-gal jar batch (which is about 3 quarts of liquid total). My kt is great tasting and is steadily improving my health, so I believe the lesser amount that I'm using is enough. -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi Vera-- The total liquid is more like 3.5 liters. >is tsp = teaspoon? yes >and I believe 1 gallon is 5 litres, am I correct? >If that is the case then indeed yours is a much less concentrated brew. > >love, Vera >in Belgium ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Dear P As an professional Australian Critical Care, Nurse, Paramedic, Instructor and HSE Rep, the main issues with foreign staff working in Australia is you do not have the required relevant Australian standard qualifications, nor are you aware of Australian regulatory system such as NOPSA, AMSA, WorkSafe or Work Cover, nor do you hold the required AQTF / AQF qualifications to work in Safety or Medical or are not registered under AHPRA. Or you may just be a loud mouth opinioned hypocrite who we do not want in our country to start with! I also believe that to work in the UK you require UK approved certification and credentials yes or has this suddenly changed? The same is true if you want to work in the Gulf of Mexico, NAEMT P certification and US Green Card as well as USCG credentials. As an Australian I have had the pleasure of working on numerous vessels, platforms and projects, and have seen the state of the vessels when they enter Australian waters normally not fit for a pig to live on the majority of which also fail AMSA, NOPSA and WorkSafe inspections for numerous reasons. The Australian Marine crews comment on this with just about every vessel that comes into Australian waters, recently we had a vessel come in that was a health hazard and was quarantined due to the filth of the galley and the rotting food throughout these areas, we had to send a cleanup crew in Tyco with masks it was so bad. I won't go into the lack of compliance with all the relevant IMO / SOLAS / MARPOL areas or the massive OHS breaches that were also found. It is true that we do still have the odd issue with less than desirables or optimal staff working on projects here, but this is not isolated to Australia, Australians or projects in Australia I have had this working with crews from the UK, US and Europe. So in short I would have to say that your comments are ignorant, ill founded, racist or at least discriminatory to say the least and are those of a whiny, winging git! You may wish to engage your brain before you speak and if you are ever in Australia I would suggest that you moderate your comments, otherwise the gents you are referring to my take it to heart! Colin, p.s. you may want to spell check your email's in future even a dumb Australian can spell Mike, Be glad your bubble is burst on this one. In fact the job will more than likely go to an Oz medic as they are very strict in not alowing foreigners to take work away from Australians... That is why foreign ships working in Oz waters are obliged to drop of all their real crews to take on lazy Oz louts who know that their jobs are protected and will just laze about the place with no need to comply with any rules or even do anything because they cannot be touched and then when one learns the staggering amount of money and benefits they demand then it is amazing...to back it up they use the threat of strikes to force the employer to let them do as they wish... Having left Oz waters it can take a couple of months to clean up the mess left by the Oz gangs...! One Filipino AB deckhand is worth 4 aussies any day...but the pay of 1 aussie will cover 6 - 10 Filipinoes... P. From: Nigel Mitton <mitton_n@... <mailto:mitton_n%40hotmail.com> > Subject: HSE/Medic - Offshore <mailto:%40> Date: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 8:28 If I had a safety ticket I would pay my own fare to Perth! When I see companies, in UK, offering 1/2 this rate, it does raise my eyebrows. Nigel HSE / Medic - Offshore $900.00 per day Temp to Perm Oil & Gas Our client owns and manages one of the newest, best equiped and largest off shore vessels operating out of Karratha in Western Australia. Servicing the Oil and Gas industry this impressive vessel conducts various tasks such as anchor handling, rig towing, rig supply and sub sea operations. Working on an equal time roster of 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off we are seeking an experienced HSE officer who is a qualified paramedic or medic. Working closely with senior ship officers, deck mangers and crew you will be responsible for safety procedures and how they are implemimented on the boat. You will also be the ships medic able to treat and asses all injuries. Reviewing, auditing and improving current safety procedures Liaising, advising and directing all crew in safety procedures Overseeing and implementing environmental procedures on the vessel Job specific safety analysis and procedures for crew Conducting pre start and post job safety meetings Conducting inductions and maintaining the induction register Educating and informing crew on safety Gathering extensive information from senior personnel in all job details so you have the information required to make safety decsions Document control in registers, controlled documents, procedural and safety Treating injuries from minor to life threatening The successful candidate will have at 2 years experience as a HSE officer as well as medic in the offshore industry. You will also be a trained medic or paramedic who is able to treat crew with minor injuries to life threatening injuries where you will need to asses, stabilize and implement extraction. Qualifications To be considered for the role you will need the following certificates and qualifications that are current and up to date. Cert 4 in OH & S or higher Medic or paramedic qualification HUET or BIOSET Remuneration This role is a Temp to Perm position and you will be paid $900.00 per day initially. Once you have completed 3 to 6 month of sea time you may go over to our client's employment on a rate similar to $900.00 per day. How to Apply Send your CV to jobs@... <mailto:jobs%40cresthr.com.au> quoting ref number OHSM - 523. If you have any questions please call Dave or Maggie at Crest HR on 9335 5799. International and Interstate Candidates WE may consider both international and interstate candidates. You must be aware that costs to get to Perth on each rotation will be your responsibility. Apply now To be eligible to apply for this position you must have an appropriate Australian or New Zealand work visa. Please email your CV to jobs@... <mailto:jobs%40cresthr.com.au> quoting reference number PPCS - 295 alternatively please call Maggie or Dave for a confidential discussion at Crest HR on (08) 9335 5799 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hello everyone, Thank you for your frank and candid comments Colin and everyone. It raises a very important topic of an international standards for paramedic certification/licensure. Despite the many discussions, new groups and organizations that have been created - we remote medics lack a solid international set of qualifications, curricula, certification or mandate. There is the Institute for Remote Healthcare (IRHC, I think that is the abbreviation) and many other international groups and affiliations, the US based National Registry (NREMT), the Health Practitioners Council (HPC), and so many others that all have their own standards and curricula for the advanced practiced paramedic. Does anyone know of a group that covers this international and remote standard and awards qualifications that can be applied to many countries? It would be great if there were and would advance remote or advanced practice paramedicine (or anything else that you want to call it). Even with different climate, patient populations, resources available etc, there can still be a standard applied... What is everyone's thoughts on the matter? PS - let's try and keep the discussion candid and honest, but professional as well, I hope everyone can instill the idea of 'colleague' with the discussion .... Thanks - RE: Bubbles... Sent: Oct 16, 2011 05:10 Â Dear P As an professional Australian Critical Care, Nurse, Paramedic, Instructor and HSE Rep, the main issues with foreign staff working in Australia is you do not have the required relevant Australian standard qualifications, nor are you aware of Australian regulatory system such as NOPSA, AMSA, WorkSafe or Work Cover, nor do you hold the required AQTF / AQF qualifications to work in Safety or Medical or are not registered under AHPRA. Or you may just be a loud mouth opinioned hypocrite who we do not want in our country to start with! I also believe that to work in the UK you require UK approved certification and credentials yes or has this suddenly changed? The same is true if you want to work in the Gulf of Mexico, NAEMT P certification and US Green Card as well as USCG credentials. As an Australian I have had the pleasure of working on numerous vessels, platforms and projects, and have seen the state of the vessels when they enter Australian waters normally not fit for a pig to live on the majority of which also fail AMSA, NOPSA and WorkSafe inspections for numerous reasons. The Australian Marine crews comment on this with just about every vessel that comes into Australian waters, recently we had a vessel come in that was a health hazard and was quarantined due to the filth of the galley and the rotting food throughout these areas, we had to send a cleanup crew in Tyco with masks it was so bad. I won't go into the lack of compliance with all the relevant IMO / SOLAS / MARPOL areas or the massive OHS breaches that were also found. It is true that we do still have the odd issue with less than desirables or optimal staff working on projects here, but this is not isolated to Australia, Australians or projects in Australia I have had this working with crews from the UK, US and Europe. So in short I would have to say that your comments are ignorant, ill founded, racist or at least discriminatory to say the least and are those of a whiny, winging git! You may wish to engage your brain before you speak and if you a Quinn cuinne@... johnmquinnv@... +420608246032 mobile Czech Republic +491719262759 German mobile +1 620 747 9081 USA vmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 When did the Austrailians become a race? Interested to know that we have a new breed of southern hemispheric white folks, who don't call themselves caucasian. love the debate, keep it up. Bear. > > From: Nigel Mitton <mitton_n@... <mailto:mitton_n%40hotmail.com> > > Subject: HSE/Medic - Offshore > > <mailto:%40> > Date: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 8:28 > > > > If I had a safety ticket I would pay my own fare to Perth! > > When I see companies, in UK, offering 1/2 this rate, it does raise my > eyebrows. > > Nigel > > HSE / Medic - Offshore > $900.00 per day > Temp to Perm > Oil & Gas > Our client owns and manages one of the newest, best equiped and largest off > shore vessels operating out of Karratha in Western Australia. > Servicing the Oil and Gas industry this impressive vessel conducts various > tasks such as anchor handling, rig towing, rig supply and sub sea > operations. > Working on an equal time roster of 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off we are seeking > > an experienced HSE officer who is a qualified paramedic or medic. > Working closely with senior ship officers, deck mangers and crew you will be > > responsible for safety procedures and how they are implemimented on the > boat. You will also be the ships medic able to treat and asses all injuries. > > Reviewing, auditing and improving current safety procedures > Liaising, advising and directing all crew in safety procedures > Overseeing and implementing environmental procedures on the vessel > Job specific safety analysis and procedures for crew > Conducting pre start and post job safety meetings > Conducting inductions and maintaining the induction register > Educating and informing crew on safety > Gathering extensive information from senior personnel in all job details so > you have the information required to make safety decsions > Document control in registers, controlled documents, procedural and safety > Treating injuries from minor to life threatening > The successful candidate will have at 2 years experience as a HSE officer as > > well as medic in the offshore industry. > > You will also be a trained medic or paramedic who is able to treat crew with > > minor injuries to life threatening injuries where you will need to asses, > stabilize and implement extraction. > > Qualifications > To be considered for the role you will need the following certificates and > qualifications that are current and up to date. > > Cert 4 in OH & S or higher > Medic or paramedic qualification > HUET or BIOSET > Remuneration > This role is a Temp to Perm position and you will be paid $900.00 per day > initially. Once you have completed 3 to 6 month of sea time you may go over > to our client's employment on a rate similar to $900.00 per day. > How to Apply > Send your CV to jobs@... <mailto:jobs%40cresthr.com.au> quoting > ref number OHSM - 523. If you > have any questions please call Dave or Maggie at Crest HR on 9335 5799. > > International and Interstate Candidates > WE may consider both international and interstate candidates. You must be > aware that costs to get to Perth on each rotation will be your > responsibility. > Apply now > To be eligible to apply for this position you must have an appropriate > Australian or New Zealand work visa. > > Please email your CV to jobs@... <mailto:jobs%40cresthr.com.au> > quoting reference number PPCS - > 295 alternatively please call Maggie or Dave for a confidential discussion > at Crest HR on (08) 9335 5799 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi all,  Hope this e-mail finds you all well?  In my opinion, I think  Qunne is the only one that comes across as being professional and trying to diffuse the situation. It's the only guy that has given in the past valid or resourcefull information. As he says, let us keep it professionall and let us sort out our differences offline.  In my career and military career I have experienced that everbody wants to be the best although they do not have the qualifications and experience. Let's be considerate to all on the site and let us respect each others views.  You all have a lovely day and just enjoy your deployment, no matter where you find yourself, and remember that some guys and gals out there would do anything just to have a JOB again. Especially when I think of our friend Major Reismann. Hope I spelt that right!! lol   Kind regards Byron ________________________________ From: Quinn GMAIL <cuinne@...> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Bubbles... Hello everyone, Thank you for your frank and candid comments Colin and everyone. It raises a very important topic of an international standards for paramedic certification/licensure. Despite the many discussions, new groups and organizations that have been created - we remote medics lack a solid international set of qualifications, curricula, certification or mandate. There is the Institute for Remote Healthcare (IRHC, I think that is the abbreviation) and many other international groups and affiliations, the US based National Registry (NREMT), the Health Practitioners Council (HPC), and so many others that all have their own standards and curricula for the advanced practiced paramedic. Does anyone know of a group that covers this international and remote standard and awards qualifications that can be applied to many countries? It would be great if there were and would advance remote or advanced practice paramedicine (or anything else that you want to call it). Even with different climate, patient populations, resources available etc, there can still be a standard applied... What is everyone's thoughts on the matter? PS - let's try and keep the discussion candid and honest, but professional as well, I hope everyone can instill the idea of 'colleague' with the discussion .... Thanks - RE: Bubbles... Sent: Oct 16, 2011 05:10  Dear P As an professional Australian Critical Care, Nurse, Paramedic, Instructor and HSE Rep, the main issues with foreign staff working in Australia is you do not have the required relevant Australian standard qualifications, nor are you aware of Australian regulatory system such as NOPSA, AMSA, WorkSafe or Work Cover, nor do you hold the required AQTF / AQF qualifications to work in Safety or Medical or are not registered under AHPRA. Or you may just be a loud mouth opinioned hypocrite who we do not want in our country to start with! I also believe that to work in the UK you require UK approved certification and credentials yes or has this suddenly changed? The same is true if you want to work in the Gulf of Mexico, NAEMT P certification and US Green Card as well as USCG credentials. As an Australian I have had the pleasure of working on numerous vessels, platforms and projects, and have seen the state of the vessels when they enter Australian waters normally not fit for a pig to live on the majority of which also fail AMSA, NOPSA and WorkSafe inspections for numerous reasons. The Australian Marine crews comment on this with just about every vessel that comes into Australian waters, recently we had a vessel come in that was a health hazard and was quarantined due to the filth of the galley and the rotting food throughout these areas, we had to send a cleanup crew in Tyco with masks it was so bad. I won't go into the lack of compliance with all the relevant IMO / SOLAS / MARPOL areas or the massive OHS breaches that were also found. It is true that we do still have the odd issue with less than desirables or optimal staff working on projects here, but this is not isolated to Australia, Australians or projects in Australia I have had this working with crews from the UK, US and Europe. So in short I would have to say that your comments are ignorant, ill founded, racist or at least discriminatory to say the least and are those of a whiny, winging git! You may wish to engage your brain before you speak and if you a Quinn cuinne@... johnmquinnv@... +420608246032 mobile Czech Republic +491719262759 German mobile +1 620 747 9081 USA vmail ------------------------------------ Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Editor:  Ross Boardman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hey there brother medic Byron, you're a true medic brother. I'm lucky to be a RN NP PA type and always have work. In fact staying at the BOQ's at Nellis AFB, NV covering a mens health care clinic. I'm still pounding the pavement still for that next adventure " TDY " out at sea or remote gig or A-stan/IQ etc I maybe 58, but still in goodshape and in fact my wife and I teach kenpo karate on the side(at the Baptist church) etc. Plus, hit the gym everyday. I'll admit I'm not as fast, but still meet the mil height/wt specs , yes really ) BTW Appreciate all you do and all the other medics out there Your medic warrior brother BTW Remembet the movie, " The Dirty Dozen " with Lee Marvin? He played " Major Reisman " in the movie, my name and retired rank Mike<>< Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Medical Traveling Soldier of Fortune Conventional and Tactical Medical Support Mike " Major Dad " Reisman Maj-Ret RN CS FNP " Every strike brings me closer to the next home run. " --Babe Ruth, American baseball player From: Byron Fawcus <byronfawcus@...> " " < > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Bubbles...  Hi all,  Hope this e-mail finds you all well?  In my opinion, I think  Qunne is the only one that comes across as being professional and trying to diffuse the situation. It's the only guy that has given in the past valid or resourcefull information. As he says, let us keep it professionall and let us sort out our differences offline.  In my career and military career I have experienced that everbody wants to be the best although they do not have the qualifications and experience. Let's be considerate to all on the site and let us respect each others views.  You all have a lovely day and just enjoy your deployment, no matter where you find yourself, and remember that some guys and gals out there would do anything just to have a JOB again. Especially when I think of our friend Major Reismann. Hope I spelt that right!! lol   Kind regards Byron ________________________________ From: Quinn GMAIL <cuinne@...> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Bubbles... Hello everyone, Thank you for your frank and candid comments Colin and everyone. It raises a very important topic of an international standards for paramedic certification/licensure. Despite the many discussions, new groups and organizations that have been created - we remote medics lack a solid international set of qualifications, curricula, certification or mandate. There is the Institute for Remote Healthcare (IRHC, I think that is the abbreviation) and many other international groups and affiliations, the US based National Registry (NREMT), the Health Practitioners Council (HPC), and so many others that all have their own standards and curricula for the advanced practiced paramedic. Does anyone know of a group that covers this international and remote standard and awards qualifications that can be applied to many countries? It would be great if there were and would advance remote or advanced practice paramedicine (or anything else that you want to call it). Even with different climate, patient populations, resources available etc, there can still be a standard applied... What is everyone's thoughts on the matter? PS - let's try and keep the discussion candid and honest, but professional as well, I hope everyone can instill the idea of 'colleague' with the discussion .... Thanks - RE: Bubbles... Sent: Oct 16, 2011 05:10  Dear P As an professional Australian Critical Care, Nurse, Paramedic, Instructor and HSE Rep, the main issues with foreign staff working in Australia is you do not have the required relevant Australian standard qualifications, nor are you aware of Australian regulatory system such as NOPSA, AMSA, WorkSafe or Work Cover, nor do you hold the required AQTF / AQF qualifications to work in Safety or Medical or are not registered under AHPRA. Or you may just be a loud mouth opinioned hypocrite who we do not want in our country to start with! I also believe that to work in the UK you require UK approved certification and credentials yes or has this suddenly changed? The same is true if you want to work in the Gulf of Mexico, NAEMT P certification and US Green Card as well as USCG credentials. As an Australian I have had the pleasure of working on numerous vessels, platforms and projects, and have seen the state of the vessels when they enter Australian waters normally not fit for a pig to live on the majority of which also fail AMSA, NOPSA and WorkSafe inspections for numerous reasons. The Australian Marine crews comment on this with just about every vessel that comes into Australian waters, recently we had a vessel come in that was a health hazard and was quarantined due to the filth of the galley and the rotting food throughout these areas, we had to send a cleanup crew in Tyco with masks it was so bad. I won't go into the lack of compliance with all the relevant IMO / SOLAS / MARPOL areas or the massive OHS breaches that were also found. It is true that we do still have the odd issue with less than desirables or optimal staff working on projects here, but this is not isolated to Australia, Australians or projects in Australia I have had this working with crews from the UK, US and Europe. So in short I would have to say that your comments are ignorant, ill founded, racist or at least discriminatory to say the least and are those of a whiny, winging git! You may wish to engage your brain before you speak and if you a Quinn cuinne@... johnmquinnv@... +420608246032 mobile Czech Republic +491719262759 German mobile +1 620 747 9081 USA vmail ------------------------------------ Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Editor:  Ross Boardman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi Byron, I agree. Quinn has raised an important point. I can't speak for , but my guess is that he is approaching this debate from the perspective of, What is best for our patients? An international certification, with a high standard, would benefit our patients, our profession and us as individuals. There is an alphabet soup of international and remote certifications, but none of them, that I am aware of, are considered the gold standard. I like the idea of forming a non-profit group, perhaps the International Association of Remote Paramedics. Conferences? Magazines? I also like the idea of a testing and certification process. The best test that I have taken is the Board for Critical Care Transport Certification, FP-C exam. It is really hard, but hard for the right reasons, and sets a very high standard. Several for-profit organizations, books, apps, etc. have been created for the purpose of providing the knowledge and skills needed to pass the FP-C exam. This type of model is transferable to our industry. Respectfully, Tyler Cascade .... In my opinion, I think � Qunne is the only one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Dear Tyler: I hear what your saying, but quite realistically I can never see a singular international standard ever being established in Paramedicine or Nursing or at the MD level. One of the hurdles to overcome is that any standard anywhere, only establishes a " basic level of care " and not " excellence in care " nor in even touch the topic of scope(s) of practice. I believe your reference to a gold standard that I eluded to is in Canada, where without much doubt the Alberta registration is just that, this partly due to the established regulatory body but for a plethora of reasons as well. The educational delivery those that are supported from government to private schools to fire department training programmes and opportunities but firstly is the length of programme with a minimum of 3 years education but as you know too the sharpest portion of the learning curve just starts after with the release of the graduate onto the masses, unsupervised.The late Rob RIP always stated that if your following a cook book your a cook, not a chef, he was a huge advocate for a minimum associates degree, although in Kanukistan its called diploma level perhaps you can see some of the hurdles to be jumped in definition of word alone. Just look to how one operate on the streets on (pretty much anywhere in the world) it is protocols that are established that " guide " our care, hopefully with some Evidence Based Medicine in mind, but that too can become skewed. The myths in EMS care are a huge issue to be addressed firstly, I can go into great depth on that topic from O2 delivery to CATs to Spine boards to multiple types of RX but I will spare you the grief. On to the FP-C the USA course, certainly it is a good standard, well, for Critical Care, unfortunately the problem is that in remote or offshore deployments " sick bay " type traffic the FP-C is absolutely useless background in dealing with the vast majority of cases as not a lot of teeth and removal of FBO eye care is it even discussed in the FC-P. Not a lot of interaortic balloon pumps either in my clinics if you see where I am going with that ;>) My point being that being a generalist with a couple of degrees on your wall is the essential key for employment in remote medicine, that too can be a fickle bird as with competition for contracts the underbid of the contracts and then provide zero support for said " troops " . Finally and I hate to burst your bubble on this, but its the money and deferral of medical liability that drives the standards of care in remote medicine for the prime contractors that hire you, not is what is best overall for the patient. cheers Wilf another past idealist. Re: Bubbles... Hi Byron, I agree. Quinn has raised an important point. I can't speak for , but my guess is that he is approaching this debate from the perspective of, What is best for our patients? An international certification, with a high standard, would benefit our patients, our profession and us as individuals. There is an alphabet soup of international and remote certifications, but none of them, that I am aware of, are considered the gold standard. I like the idea of forming a non-profit group, perhaps the International Association of Remote Paramedics. Conferences? Magazines? I also like the idea of a testing and certification process. The best test that I have taken is the Board for Critical Care Transport Certification, FP-C exam. It is really hard, but hard for the right reasons, and sets a very high standard. Several for-profit organizations, books, apps, etc. have been created for the purpose of providing the knowledge and skills needed to pass the FP-C exam. This type of model is transferable to our industry. Respectfully, Tyler Cascade ... In my opinion, I think � Qunne is the only one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thank you Wilf, for that very realistic reply. Nigel Re: Re: Bubbles... Dear Tyler: I hear what your saying, but quite realistically I can never see a singular international standard ever being established in Paramedicine or Nursing or at the MD level. One of the hurdles to overcome is that any standard anywhere, only establishes a " basic level of care " and not " excellence in care " nor in even touch the topic of scope(s) of practice. I believe your reference to a gold standard that I eluded to is in Canada, where without much doubt the Alberta registration is just that, this partly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi Wilf, You too raise a lot of great points. Please excuse me. I wasn't exactly clear in my previous post. I was not suggesting that FP-C should be considered the gold standard for remote paramedics. I totally agree that most of the material is unrelated to remote medicine. However, I was suggesting that the BCCTPC, (FP-C and CCP-C), is a potential model for establishing a gold standard certification in remote medicine. That was precisely the vision that Graham Pierce had for flight paramedics in the US. And, although it has taken some time, his vision has more-or-less become reality. It is rare to find a rotary-wing EMS provider in the US that does not require FP-C certification. I think that it is fundamental, however, that these certifications were not presented to the world alone. They were accompanied by the International Association of Flight and Critical Care Paramedics, as well as a separate, non-profit organization responsible for the administration and development of the exams, the BCCTPC. I believe that this model could be used for remote paramedics as well - the same model, but different knowledge and skill base. Very Respectfully, Tyler Cascade > > ... In my opinion, I think � Qunne is the only one... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Speaking of Bubbles . I am absolutely fried, pissed off HUGE and tired of the non english speeking types that have never seen a toilet, let alone know how to operate one, if you catch my drift. Any of you on this listserver site that can speak farking english clearly .. wanna make $600.00 CND a day,or better, sitting on your asses, nap in the am and a meal and nap in the afternoon ? http://collegeofparamedics.org/pages/Registration/IndividualSubstantialEquivalen\ cy.aspx Apply PLEASE and bombard my politically correct Alberta College of Paramedorks with applications, they want international reciprocity .. well let me HELP them out EH! All you UK, OZ and Yalls please apply, and hey you guys in the sandbox come on down, no taliban, no ieds, nothing but a couple of bears and cougars (those without cell phone numbers) very saddly ... cheers Wilf ps contact PM if you need assitance or advice or a spare parka .. Canada has 1/3 of the remaining oil on the planet and screw Cameron hes an idiot. http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/04/judgment-day/ He lives in a fantesy world and really needs to stop smoking crack and pot becase BC bud is way superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Wilf, I love your post from your yank medical brother in Fresno, CA Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Medical Traveling Soldier of Fortune Conventional and Tactical Medical Support Mike " Major Dad " Reisman Maj-Ret RN CS FNP God promises a safe landing, not a calm passage. Mike " Major Dad " Reisman Maj-Ret RN CS FNP POCM-Plain Old Christian Medic www.NeedGod.com ________________________________ From: Wilf Mackie <w.mackie@...> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: Bubbles...  Speaking of Bubbles . I am absolutely fried, pissed off HUGE and tired of the non english speeking types that have never seen a toilet, let alone know how to operate one, if you catch my drift. Any of you on this listserver site that can speak farking english clearly .. wanna make $600.00 CND a day,or better, sitting on your asses, nap in the am and a meal and nap in the afternoon ? http://collegeofparamedics.org/pages/Registration/IndividualSubstantialEquivalen\ cy.aspx Apply PLEASE and bombard my politically correct Alberta College of Paramedorks with applications, they want international reciprocity .. well let me HELP them out EH! All you UK, OZ and Yalls please apply, and hey you guys in the sandbox come on down, no taliban, no ieds, nothing but a couple of bears and cougars (those without cell phone numbers) very saddly ... cheers Wilf ps contact PM if you need assitance or advice or a spare parka .. Canada has 1/3 of the remaining oil on the planet and screw Cameron hes an idiot. http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/04/judgment-day/ He lives in a fantesy world and really needs to stop smoking crack and pot becase BC bud is way superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Dear Mike: Thank you first off, but love ? golly, shucks mate, <insert blush> I would most humbly suggest that you perhaps should down play the tactical medical support element in your signature a touch, if you intend on forwarding your CV and quals to a primarily a " vagina based " board for review, and unlike myself they do not really understand courage under fire, a pity really. If you so would permit me, might I be so forward as to suggest that some requests in extra special needs for privacy in the Alberta oilpatch you may not bode well for success as a candidate long term in securing permanent positions or employment. Curious requests can be detrimental to anyone's longevity here, it can be rather cut throat and a few of your predecessors, and absolutely no ill intent could make your application less than stellar, most unfortunately, but just saying, quietly. After all is said and done, this very much remains a very " red neck oilpatch culture " and please review in Remote Support archives re: The Assent of Man in the Oil-Patch Pipeliners for a perspective and please be prepared " et all " , once again no offence intended, the standards of the expectation of delivery health care, from Primary Care to Critical Care in Paramedicine, these are rather stringent in Alberta, and please click on link provided prior for scope of practice, best suited would be a combination of Royal Navy RN and or REMT-P with ACLS, PALS, H2S and CST with experience driving on roads that are solid state H2O. A southern fundamentalist Baptist Christian ethic with some known aberrancies (yes it is a very small world Mike) just may not bode well in this environment, giving you my best, sincere and most honest advice, this may not be worth the excessive cost's and efforts to gain reciprocity north of the 49th parallel. cheers Wilf Bubbles... Speaking of Bubbles . I am absolutely fried, pissed off HUGE and tired of the non english speeking types that have never seen a toilet, let alone know how to operate one, if you catch my drift. Any of you on this listserver site that can speak farking english clearly .. wanna make $600.00 CND a day,or better, sitting on your asses, nap in the am and a meal and nap in the afternoon ? http://collegeofparamedics.org/pages/Registration/IndividualSubstantialEquivalen\ cy.aspx Apply PLEASE and bombard my politically correct Alberta College of Paramedorks with applications, they want international reciprocity .. well let me HELP them out EH! All you UK, OZ and Yalls please apply, and hey you guys in the sandbox come on down, no taliban, no ieds, nothing but a couple of bears and cougars (those without cell phone numbers) very saddly ... cheers Wilf ps contact PM if you need assitance or advice or a spare parka .. Canada has 1/3 of the remaining oil on the planet and screw Cameron hes an idiot. http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/04/judgment-day/ He lives in a fantesy world and really needs to stop smoking crack and pot becase BC bud is way superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Wilf Finally did they allow Americans to come to Canada and work? I tell you brother I have the website open now and will be sending this out soon. Dan From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wilf Mackie Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Bubbles... Speaking of Bubbles . I am absolutely fried, pissed off HUGE and tired of the non english speeking types that have never seen a toilet, let alone know how to operate one, if you catch my drift. Any of you on this listserver site that can speak farking english clearly .. wanna make $600.00 CND a day,or better, sitting on your asses, nap in the am and a meal and nap in the afternoon ? http://collegeofparamedics.org/pages/Registration/IndividualSubstantialEquiv alency.aspx Apply PLEASE and bombard my politically correct Alberta College of Paramedorks with applications, they want international reciprocity .. well let me HELP them out EH! All you UK, OZ and Yalls please apply, and hey you guys in the sandbox come on down, no taliban, no ieds, nothing but a couple of bears and cougars (those without cell phone numbers) very saddly ... cheers Wilf ps contact PM if you need assitance or advice or a spare parka .. Canada has 1/3 of the remaining oil on the planet and screw Cameron hes an idiot. http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/10/04/judgment-day/ He lives in a fantesy world and really needs to stop smoking crack and pot becase BC bud is way superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.