Re: Saturation Divers pre and post medical checks

[Guest guest]

Ricky take a look at the reference I found. You might have already come across

this info. It should help you to develope a form of your own.

________________________________

From: Ricky Nightingale <ricky@...>

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:12:02 AM

Subject: Saturation Divers pre and post medical checks

Hi Guys does anyone have forms for medically assessing saturation divers pre and

post dive, that they could share with me? ricky@...

Thanks in advance

Ricky

[Guest guest]

Ricky,Mailed to your directly.Hope they helpRgsIan

----- Original Message -----From: " Ricky Nightingale " >;ricky@...

[Guest guest]

The dive company operating the chamber/employing the divers should

have a form that they mandate. I would avoid using any forms not

supplied by the company, as they range from completely insufficient to

well over-the-top. Without knowing exactly what the dive contractor

requires, you're opening a can of worms that you don't have enough

insurance to cover. If they have put it on you to develop (that scares

me BUT) punt it to your/their medical director, who will pull a form

out of his <whereever> and use that. If your/their medical director

doesn't have enough experience in diving to have a dozen forms

already, you need to find a better job or a better doc. Don't let them

give you a " diver medical exam " sheet--they take -forever- to do, you

aren't qualified to make some of the calls, and they only need to be

done on an annual basis for most places.

If you're not worried about liability at all (I'm American, obviously,

and we're sue-happy) then there are a bunch of decent forms that cover

the basics. Don't get yourself bogged down in minutiae--it's a waste

of time. You'll probably be under some pressue to get the guys in the

can as soon as possible, it's likely to be 0230 in the morning, and

these guys are professionals at hiding anything they don't want you to

know about (and many will.)

Austin

On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Ricky Nightingale wrote:

> Hi Guys does anyone have forms for medically assessing saturation

> divers pre and post dive, that they could share with me? ricky@...

> Thanks in advance

> Ricky

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Guys does anyone have forms for medically assessing saturation divers pre

and post dive, that they could share with me? ricky@...

> Thanks in advance

> Ricky

>

Ricky,

A.Austin gave you an excellent answer. But, I want to add some more insight.

I worked on a dive ship, and this was my favorite job, of my career.

Even, over the fire dept where, I retired from.....

Remember the company wants to honestly approve a diver to work. Should a

diver become ill while in saturation, the project is prolonged and the profit

ratio also becomes more narrow.

Also, they don't want divers disqualified, over every little thing.

Like A.Austin said....If you have to deem a diver not fit for saturation,

make sure to document, your doctor and/or the dive company's doctor is in

agreement.

I spent 30 minutes doing a head to toe exam. Checking for skin infections.

Evaluating the mental status, checking for mental depression and suicidal

thoughts. Checking the teeth, gums and ears.

The company (Dive Supervisor) told me, " the last dive medic took only 4

minutes per pre-dive exam. " So, be sure to have a honest and diplomatic reply.

In 6 hours, I could examine 12 sat divers..I usually started at midnight, and

had 8 to 12 divers ready by 6 AM.

During this project, I failed only 3 of about 50 divers..one was drunk, one

had a skin rash and the other, an abcessed tooth.

Good luck with your endeavor...and remember the dive manuals are a wealth of

information.

I hope, I was of some assist, Hope and peace,

[Guest guest]

Ricky,

Listen to what these guys are saying. Dive medicine is a training intensive

specialty. Specialties are specialties for a reason. If you do not have DMT,

chamber operator, or other equivalent dive medicine training you should

seriously be thinking about a new post. Clearing divers in and out of the can is

not a place for on the job training. Of course you have to do what is best for

you, and you are the only one with all the details, but the purpose of a board

like this is to share and benefit from each others experience. Just tossing in

my two cents.

[Guest guest]

Chaps,

People seem to be make huge assumptions and suppositions here.

Ricky simply asked if anyone had pre and post sat medical forms they could

share, he did not at any point mention why he needed them, what he was up to or

what his professional background is, he could simply be drawing comparisons or

doing some research….

I don’t really feel there is a need to suppose he is up to anything which is a

either unethical or b unqualified for.

Therefore suggest maybe this thread is dropped…..

Rgs

Ian

PS I may be wrong but if I remember correctly Ricky is qualified in diving

medicine !!

[Guest guest]

Hi Guys,

Just want to say thanks to all who helped me out, Just for the record, i am

on a dive project at the moment not for the first time and probably not for

the last, Ian is correct i am DMT amoung other things.

Once again thanks all for your input.

Regards

Ricky.

Original Message:

-----------------

From: Ian Sharpe Ian@...

Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:59:45 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: Re: Re: Saturation Divers pre and post

medical checks

Chaps,

People seem to be make huge assumptions and suppositions here.

Ricky simply asked if anyone had pre and post sat medical forms they could

share, he did not at any point mention why he needed them, what he was up

to or what his professional background is, he could simply be drawing

comparisons or doing some research….

I don’t really feel there is a need to suppose he is up to anything which

is a either unethical or b unqualified for.

Therefore suggest maybe this thread is dropped…..

Rgs

Ian

PS I may be wrong but if I remember correctly Ricky is qualified in diving

medicine !!

[Guest guest]

Good point Ian. Thanks.

>

> Chaps,

>

> People seem to be make huge assumptions and suppositions here.

>

> Ricky simply asked if anyone had pre and post sat medical forms they could

share, he did not at any point mention why he needed them, what he was up to or

what his professional background is, he could simply be drawing comparisons or

doing some research….

>

> I don’t really feel there is a need to suppose he is up to anything which is

a either unethical or b unqualified for.

>

> Therefore suggest maybe this thread is dropped…..

>

> Rgs

>

>

> Ian

> PS I may be wrong but if I remember correctly Ricky is qualified in diving

medicine !!

>

>

>

>

>

>