Lotion bars

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In a message dated 1/1/00 2:15:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, lroche@...

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<< Here is my recipe for lotion bars.this is one of my best seller,

7 oz Beeswax

4 oz cocoa butter

4 oz shea butter

4 oz almond oil

4 oz emu oil

1/2 teas vitamin E oil

E.O or F.O

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I have a question about this. I dont want to use emu oil. I have heard that

it is a wonderful oil but is there a sub. that is almost as good as it? Or at

least another oil that would work well in this recipe?

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How are lotion bars used? Do they need to age? How long do they stay in the

mold?

Thanks,

angie

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I make my lotion bars in deodorant containers. No, they don't have to

" age " .. just harden up. Once hardened, you rub them on the skin.

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I use low alpha tocepherols at 2% of final product volume as an

antioxidant in my lotion bars. The shelf life depends on the oils I

choose to put in there. That varies.

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>Is a preservative necessary to prevent the oils/butters from going rancid?

>What is the expected shelf life of your bars?

Hi Vivien.

Although some of the butters have a long shelf life, in my opinion you do

need an antioxidant to prevent rancidity. The only antioxidants I have

experience with are mixed tocopherols and BHT although there are others.

Unless you intend to mass produce your lotion bars, you will probably find

it easier to use mixed tocopherols.

Pat.

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In a message dated 1/3/00 4:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, evaframe@...

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<< Hi Again !! Just tried Carli's receipe for lotion bars and they are just

beautiful >>

Is there another Carli on the list? LOL because I dont remember sending a

lotion bar recipe. Although I must admitt that I have no memmory what so

ever. Could you forward this to me please?

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In a message dated 1/3/00 4:11:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, evaframe@...

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<< Does anyone have

an easier clean up method than soap & water - it takes forever? The

other question !! What can I put these beautiful little gems in to

" package " them? >>

Eva,

Try lemon eo in cleaning the beeswax, it works!

A lot of people put lotion bars into deodorant containers.

Beth

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May I have this recipe? Please email me privately or post to list.

Thanks:)

Angie W.

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>From: evaframe@...

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>Hi Again !! Just tried Carli's receipe for lotion bars and they are just

>beautiful.

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If you mean the clean-up of your equipment used to make these...I use a

clean large can set inside of a pan of water to melt my waxes & oils and

use separate cans if I have used any scent and I always use the same stir

spoon(wooden and have already bent my wax can to form a " lip " to pour so I

don't use any ladles. It is a matter of simply dumping out out the hot

water from your outside pan. and storing your equipment until the next

batch.

Deb

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I store mine in a tupperware type container in the refrigerator. Have no

problems with them, other than catching my DH about to pop one in his

mouth one day =:0......I can say be sure to label the container, but that

didn't seem to work at first without verbal warning. ...Joann

In a message dated 00-01-14 18:18:50 EST, evaframe@... writes:

<< In the mean time I had them stored in a tupperware container, and

they just feel like they are drying out a bit..not as silky smooth as

they were. Is this the nature of a lotion bar? Is it perhaps because I

do not as yet have a proper container for them? Has this happened to

anyone else? Please advise, if anyone can help me out!! Thanks alot.

Eva in TO

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Could someone point me in the direction of some lotion bar recipes? I would

greatly appreciate it.

Drae

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> The best hint I've ever gotten (I *wish* I could claim it as my own, but

it's

> not!) was to use a recycled can (like a large soup can, or coffee can, but

> soup works better) in a pan of water as a double boiler for things like

this,

> with beeswax.

Hi Lynne.

This is a good idea, I have been using it myself for a long time, mostly for

candles but I have used it for lotion bars and lip balm as well. I have more

cans laying around the house with wax in them than you can shake a stick at.

Every now and then I melt them and make a mixed grill candle with several

different colors and several different scents.

I have another idea that may appeal to people that make a lot of lotion

bars. Buy a Presto cooker and drill a hole close to the bottom and connect a

faucet to it. I think they hold about six quarts and are ideal for melting

wax, butters, etc. You can either transfer the melted ingredients to smaller

containers for adding scent, or if you are making a large batch of the same

scent, you can fill your lotion bar containers direct from the faucet. The

nice thing about them is they do have a temperature control.

Another thing to consider is using glass beakers (Pyrex) instead of cans.

You can buy a whole case for around $30 at 12 to the case. The larger ones

are 6 to a case, and the real large ones (2000 ml) you buy individually.

Pat.

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In a message dated 10/17/00 4:47:39 AM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< Does any know if you can make lotion bars out of M & P, >>

I've never heard of putting any kind of soap in a Lotion Stick. Usually they

are combinations of oils, butters, beeswax, cocoa butter. Anybody put soap

in theirs??

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Thanks for the receipe Shaye. I will definitly have to give this a try real

soon. I have never used bees wax in anything. I see some of the soap

receipes have it , but I don't really know what it does. Can you explain

this? Kathy

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I think that when it's in soap, its added for hardness. I've seen

those hand dip things and they are suppose to moisturize, but I dont

think that there is enuf beeswax in soap to do that.

So, for hardness is the answer to your question.

Arnt those lids a kiler?? hubby kinda took some tin snips and

snipped the little striped thin spots around the edge, (striped thin

spots=tecnical term lol) And then got it open. they have a tool to

open them with, but I dont have one. i try not to totaly close it

once its opened or forget it lol.

Tip for lotion bars:

When you make lotion bars, melt the beeswax first in a double boiler

or in microwave, or in the oven, cuz its the hardest to melt. then

keep it on low heat when you add in the rest of the oils and butters.

Shaye

> Thanks for the receipe Shaye. I will definitly have to give this

a try real

> soon. I have never used bees wax in anything. I see some of the

soap

> receipes have it , but I don't really know what it does. Can you

explain

> this? Kathy

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Shaye--Is that all your lotion recipe is? Holy cow! That is soooo

similar to my lip balm recipe. have my vit.e in a bottle. Any clue

as to what the 4 cap. equivalent would be? Somewhere between 1/2 and

1 tsp?

> I agree, I use coconut oil in my lotion bars as well, you can also

> use it in lip balms. A good base rule of thumb is like:

>

> 1/3 beeswax

> 1/3 oil (almond, apricot, ect..)or combination

> 1/3 hard oil or butter (coconut, shea, cocobutter ect..)or

combination

>

> then aobut 4 vit. e capsuls per 6 oz of lotion bar mix.

>

> Shaye

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, Im not sure about that, I just got some in a bottle too so I

woulnt have to be squeezing all those capsules. Cuz usualy I make

enuf at a time I have to squeeze a LOT of capsuls.. Kina hard on my

ole fingers ya know LOL. I have to make some more base in the next

few days, and I'll measure what it comes to.

still at it today!

Shaye

> > I agree, I use coconut oil in my lotion bars as well, you can

also

> > use it in lip balms. A good base rule of thumb is like:

> >

> > 1/3 beeswax

> > 1/3 oil (almond, apricot, ect..)or combination

> > 1/3 hard oil or butter (coconut, shea, cocobutter ect..)or

> combination

> >

> > then aobut 4 vit. e capsuls per 6 oz of lotion bar mix.

> >

> > Shaye

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Deb, The person that gave me the receipe never said anything about beeswax.

So I think that was the whole problem. Thanks for your help. Kathy

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lotion bars shouldn't be kept in the fridge to harden up after making and

shouldn't melt unless you are outside at a summer show in say 100 degree

weather(ask me how I know!) but I would be willing to bet you didn't use

enough hard oils. I use the basic 1/3 of cocobutter, 1/3 of coconut

oil(solid variety), and 1/3 beeswax.Even my softer massage oil bars don't

need fridging.E-mail me if you need more help.

HTH

Deb

lotion bars

> Last night I made a small batch of lotion bars, and stuck them in the

frig.

> while I ran to the store. When I got home I took them out of their molds,

> and they looked great. But this morning they were melted all over the

> counter. Are you suppose to keep these in the frig all the time? I took

a

> scoop and put it in the bath this morning, but it made the water very

> greasy. When I toweled off though my skin felt really soft. But I still

> didn't like the oily feeling in the water. Or is this the way lotion bars

> work. Kathy

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Actually, you can make them out of hard oils when you are trying to make the

really FAST melt ones for massage. That is how I do my massage bars and mold

them in the candy heart shape mold tray. If you use the rule of three and

you want them softer, then just add a bit more coconut oil or even some

liquid oil like almond, olive etc. I happen to like them more solid so the

warmth of folks hands is what melts them and they last longer.

Deb

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I would definetly remelt what you have, and add some more oil. No use in

wasting it. Just keep the heat as low as you can, and you shouldn't destroy

any scent you put in. Hope this works ok. kathy

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Kathy

That's what I thought (about cutting back on the bees wax) but now it's

Sunday and I hate to end up trying different recipes when I need a good

bar by tomorrow. Also, I hate wasting the products. I wonder if I can

stick all the containers in the microwave to melt the stuff and reuse it by

adding, say, more oil? I used one of the little decorated tins you got for

me to keep for myself. Do you find that once you open them that the tops

don't want to stay on good? If so, what I found was if you take the top

and put it on its side on the counter and put a little pressure on it, you

can "bend" it just a little to make it sort of out of round and then it will

stay on. Just a little idea if you have the same problem.

M

Re: My turn for help

, I only made them twice, and the first ones melted all over the counter, and the secon one turned out like yours. When I do my next, I am going to just cut back a little on the beeswax. I think that is what makes it too hard. Hope this works. kathyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Special Invite for membershttp://soapwerks.com/martinrectangle.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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I do remelt lotion sticks to rebatch to make them softer or harder. I think Melody at rainbow meadows has a page about making lotion sticks that tells you what proportions to maintain for a good bar. claire

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Re: My turn for help

, I only made them twice, and the first ones melted all over the counter, and the secon one turned out like yours. When I do my next, I am going to just cut back a little on the beeswax. I think that is what makes it too hard. Hope this works. kathyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Special Invite for membershttp://soapwerks.com/martinrectangle.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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Thanks, claire

I'll check it out right now. Oops- what's the addy?

M

Re: My turn for help

, I only made them twice, and the first ones melted all over the counter, and the secon one turned out like yours. When I do my next, I am going to just cut back a little on the beeswax. I think that is what makes it too hard. Hope this works. kathyOur members maphttp://.homestead.com/locations.htmlOur Message Boardhttp://www.voy.com/21568/Special Invite for membershttp://soapwerks.com/martinrectangle.htmAll posts to this list are copyrighted by post author. They may NOT be forwarded, copied, or used in anyway without the permission of the post author with the exception of answering posts to this list. Posts are personal opinions only.

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Lizz-

Thanks for sharing your recipes. After trying G's lotion bar, I'm dying to

try some for me. Just haven't gotten around to it yet though. I've got

everything but the beeswax!

Colleen

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