Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Suze- Fantastic! I just got that book, but I haven't had time to crack it open yet. I just hope it turns out to be a useful tool for persuasion. >In " The Modern Nutritional Diseases and How to Prevent Them " the Ottobonis >discuss this. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 , I think you're right about the problem being from breaking over and over again, but I think it's clearly undesirable (so far to me) to have plaque build-up in the arteries. I think just about everybody thinks this including Uffe Ravnskov. I don't know about broken limbs (I've never broken one) and that's probably a flaw in my analogy. I'd rather have undamaged blood vessels than plaque-covered ones though. Chris In a message dated 5/11/03 2:50:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Idol@... writes: > Not even necessarily that. After all, don't broken limbs generally heal to > be stronger than they were before at the site of the break? I think it's > just that the modern, agriculturalized and refined diet keeps on breaking > and breaking and breaking the same things over and over again until the > whole system collapses. " To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore Roosevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 >>>>Fantastic! I just got that book, but I haven't had time to crack it open yet. I just hope it turns out to be a useful tool for persuasion. >In " The Modern Nutritional Diseases and How to Prevent Them " the Ottobonis >discuss this. -------->oh great! I'd love to discuss the book with you - i think it adds some pieces to the puzzle. on the positive side in terms of credibility to your girlfriend, the Ottobonis credentials are quite impressive. but one weakness that I noted is they cite too many secondary sources for my comfort. Nonetheless, they have some solid info and all the charts of biochemical pathways really helped me visualize a lot of this stuff. I always do better with pictures! LOL Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 In a message dated 5/11/03 1:12:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Idol@... writes: > Oh, I agree completely. I wasn't suggesting that plaque would somehow make > arteries better the way a broken bone heals stronger than it was > originally. But I do think it's plausible that a diet high in raw organs > and glands, particularly those rich in vitamin C, could prevent or even > possibly reverse atherosclerosis. Oh, definitely. By the way, what amount of " fries " is safe to eat raw in one sitting? I went to pick up some more heart and liver there... looked at them, picked them up, put them back down. Maybe next time :-P Chris " To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. " --Theodore Roosevelt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Chris- Oh, I agree completely. I wasn't suggesting that plaque would somehow make arteries better the way a broken bone heals stronger than it was originally. But I do think it's plausible that a diet high in raw organs and glands, particularly those rich in vitamin C, could prevent or even possibly reverse atherosclerosis. >but I think it's clearly undesirable (so far to me) to have plaque >build-up in the arteries. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Chris- Boy, heck if I know. That's why I've only eaten small amounts on a couple occasions. I have no idea what a safe dose is, let alone what amount with what frequency would be beneficial. But I believe they're often called " fries " because in some parts of the country, they were a traditional dish served fried, and I think people would eat at least one whole fry at a time. But maybe they're stronger stuff raw. >By the way, what amount of " fries " is safe to eat raw in one >sitting? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi , Don't know what our pricing will be but will let you know when we do! RE: Re: report on WAPF conference 2003 - Thanks! Any idea what the pricing is likely to be? >Yep - they audio and video taped the talks. The contact # is: (610) 923 >9287 for video/dvd, (845)679-6885 for audio. We hope to make them >available at some point as well.... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 >>>>I went to lobby by Senator's on banning use of infant soy formula in the WIC program w/o a doctor's prescription, encouraging farm-to- school programs and the expansion of the Fruit and Vegetable Pilot Program to include animal foods, the replacement of soda and junk in vending machines with bottled waters, milks, etc, and a repeal of the ban on the ban of irradiated foods in school lunches. We also talked a bit about the Foundation, our personal experiences with recovering our health, our conference, etc. ----------->that is so great that you did that chris. thanks for taking the time and effort to speak to your reps. >>>On another note, I thought of this back when we were talking about the board members' sample diets, but I'm reminded again now: I think it was Suze who had mentioned that Sally's diet was through and through traditional in each of the three days in that article, and when I'd read that I just thought of how Sally is the best-looking nutritional author I've seen (women 60% her age don't count ;-) ). I mean in terms of smooth skin, vitality, etc. But she also just seems radiant, especially in person. She is always smiling and sort of glows ------>i second that. and i want to add that her eyes reflect a kindness and warmth that just make you smile when you look at her. And i forgot to mention her message of inclusion at the chapter leader breakfast in my last post. in essence she told us whenever we charge for events, be sure to not leave anyone behind - make it accessible to everyone by offering work scholarships (which is exactly what she did for me and many other volunteers at this conference). This is an essential part of this paradigm as far as i'm concerned - it's vital that folks from all socio-economic backgrounds have access to information on traditional nutrition and access to local wholesome foods. i was thrilled to hear sally express this to chapter leaders from all over the country and abroad. >>>>Ok, so I'm all psyched now too. I'll get off my butt and start a local chapter now. ---->go for it! c'mon over to our chapter leaders list if you want to network with the rest of us, get ideas, etc. >>>>>It was great to meet people in person too. Maybe again next year ----->ditto. i had a lot of fun hanging out with you...i think you like to laugh as much as i do! i think i laughed for almost 3 days straight - not that the conference was funny - just that there seemed to be so many good-humored people, and we joked around a lot Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 >>>>I should add that since my appt at Kennedy's office was at 4pm, I didn't get home last night until a little after 2am, which is why I'm not in class right now ----->hope you still had some raw heart left in your cooler to get you through the long, late drive! <g> Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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