Re: Re: report on WAPF conference 2003

[Guest guest]

>>>>> Suze, do you know how many were

there? I'm not good w/numbers, but I thought it had to be over 300.

----->i believe Sally told us that 350 had pre-registered. I worked

registration on sat. and noticed that there was also a considerable number

of folks in the *non* pre-registered line, as well.

>>>>I'm local, so didn't have to travel, but I was impressed with how far

some were willing to travel for this. Australia and Russia were 2

places.

---->yes, we had chapter leaders come from both of those places!

>>>>>Suze and it was great to meet you! I only wish I could have

spent more time with you. It's fun to be able to see your faces when

I read your posts now. The conference took a lot out of me and

I've been pretty much sofa-ridden since then. It's going to take a

while for me to recover.

---->i wish you a speedy recovery :-) Thanks for taking the trouble to bring

your Masai gourd - it was really neat to see and touch it!

>>>>>Suze, do you pronounce your name with one syllable (suz) or 2 (suz-

e)? I heard Sally call you Suz. Sorry for calling your Suz-e if

that's not right.

----->LOL! i'm used to it, about 50% of the time people mis-pronounce my

name as " Suz-ee " . The correct pronunciation is " Sooz " rhymes with " snooze,

schmooz, cruise " , etc. Thanks for asking :-) and hope to see you next year!

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

HI everyone,

Thanks for all the summaries! I sure as heck didn't get to see many

talks as I was pretty busy at our booth - am going to get the tapes. I

talked to the volunteer coordinator who said that attendance was over

450! That continues the trend of doubling every year! Sally's seminar

on Monday was packed.

It was great to meet so many people on this list - wonderful to make

virtual community more tangible! Thanks for stopping by and introducing

yourself. You certainly are a radiant bunch!

Ken or - do you have that picture of our Ethiopian dinner troupe

to post?

Anyone else still dreaming of that lamb stew we had on Saturday night??

Cheers,

RE: Re: report on WAPF conference 2003

>>>>> Suze, do you know how many were

there? I'm not good w/numbers, but I thought it had to be over 300.

----->i believe Sally told us that 350 had pre-registered. I worked

registration on sat. and noticed that there was also a considerable

number

of folks in the *non* pre-registered line, as well.

>>>>I'm local, so didn't have to travel, but I was impressed with how

far

some were willing to travel for this. Australia and Russia were 2

places.

---->yes, we had chapter leaders come from both of those places!

>>>>>Suze and it was great to meet you! I only wish I could have

spent more time with you. It's fun to be able to see your faces when

I read your posts now. The conference took a lot out of me and

I've been pretty much sofa-ridden since then. It's going to take a

while for me to recover.

---->i wish you a speedy recovery :-) Thanks for taking the trouble to

bring

your Masai gourd - it was really neat to see and touch it!

>>>>>Suze, do you pronounce your name with one syllable (suz) or 2 (suz-

e)? I heard Sally call you Suz. Sorry for calling your Suz-e if

that's not right.

----->LOL! i'm used to it, about 50% of the time people mis-pronounce my

name as " Suz-ee " . The correct pronunciation is " Sooz " rhymes with

" snooze,

schmooz, cruise " , etc. Thanks for asking :-) and hope to see you next

year!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

One more thing -

I was talking with Benner this morning (who wasn't able to

make it this year to the conf. because she is moving) about economics

and how it would be great to bring in that dimension in future

conferences and WAPF work. We talked specifically about Steiner's

Associative Economics and CHBudd, and I brought up Austin

Fitts' work with the Solari economic empowerment centers

(www.solari.com). There is some very important work coming out that I

think can make a huge difference for local economies and food systems in

the Solaris. This married to Assoc. Econ. could be a real powerful

synergy. Would love to hear what people think.

Economics discussions might seem off-topic but I feel that economy is

the morphogenic field for culture and food systems, and trying to change

the American diet without focusing on economic transformation is like

trying to reverse-engineer the car from an old hubcap. Anyway if there

is interest I would love to see this become a part of our discussions

here and more widely in the Foundation.

All the best,

RE: Re: report on WAPF conference 2003

>>>>> Suze, do you know how many were

there? I'm not good w/numbers, but I thought it had to be over 300.

----->i believe Sally told us that 350 had pre-registered. I worked

registration on sat. and noticed that there was also a considerable

number

of folks in the *non* pre-registered line, as well.

>>>>I'm local, so didn't have to travel, but I was impressed with how

far

some were willing to travel for this. Australia and Russia were 2

places.

---->yes, we had chapter leaders come from both of those places!

>>>>>Suze and it was great to meet you! I only wish I could have

spent more time with you. It's fun to be able to see your faces when

I read your posts now. The conference took a lot out of me and

I've been pretty much sofa-ridden since then. It's going to take a

while for me to recover.

---->i wish you a speedy recovery :-) Thanks for taking the trouble to

bring

your Masai gourd - it was really neat to see and touch it!

>>>>>Suze, do you pronounce your name with one syllable (suz) or 2 (suz-

e)? I heard Sally call you Suz. Sorry for calling your Suz-e if

that's not right.

----->LOL! i'm used to it, about 50% of the time people mis-pronounce my

name as " Suz-ee " . The correct pronunciation is " Sooz " rhymes with

" snooze,

schmooz, cruise " , etc. Thanks for asking :-) and hope to see you next

year!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

>>>>>Ken or - do you have that picture of our Ethiopian dinner troupe

to post?

---->oh darn! I was hoping no one would remember that. I'm incredibly

unphotogenic, so always hate my picture! But *you* look great! I just

uploaded it to the archives, but it's kind of blurry due to compression.

I'll try to upload a better version over it. (Ken, hope you don't mind I

jumped the gun :-)

http://photos./group/ /lst

Anyone else still dreaming of that lamb stew we had on Saturday night??

---->it was good, but *i'm* dreaming of the Ethiopian lamb stew from Sunday

night!

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Suze! Here's to great memories....

C

RE: Re: report on WAPF conference 2003

>>>>>Ken or - do you have that picture of our Ethiopian dinner

troupe

to post?

---->oh darn! I was hoping no one would remember that. I'm incredibly

unphotogenic, so always hate my picture! But *you* look great! I just

uploaded it to the archives, but it's kind of blurry due to compression.

I'll try to upload a better version over it. (Ken, hope you don't mind I

jumped the gun :-)

http://photos./group/ /lst

Anyone else still dreaming of that lamb stew we had on Saturday night??

---->it was good, but *i'm* dreaming of the Ethiopian lamb stew from

Sunday

night!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

[Guest guest]

---->oh darn! I was hoping no one would remember that. I'm incredibly

unphotogenic, so always hate my picture! But *you* look great! I just

uploaded it to the archives, but it's kind of blurry due to compression.

I'll try to upload a better version over it. (Ken, hope you don't mind I

jumped the gun :-)

http://photos./group/ /lst

---->hmmm... seems to want one at 300 dpi, not 72 dpi, which is why

it's blurry. I uploaded another one to a " WAPF 2003 Conference " album in the

photos section, but it's blurry too. Ken, if you have the original as a 300

dpi Tiff, I can optimize it, add our names and upload. the original is kind

of dark, so I adjusted the lighting in my image editing program. unless you

have an editing program and would like to do it yourself.

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

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>am going to get the tapes.

Tapes are going to be available? That would be great!

-

[Guest guest]

Suze-

So come on, who's who? <g>

>http://photos./group/ /lst

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[Guest guest]

We have a chapter in Greenfield, with Redemske. Contacted her

from

WAPF webpage when I found it about a year ago. She said she was going to put

together a meeting with another local chapter when I last talked to her. That

was about 6 months ago. Sally in Amherst would be great! My kind of travel.

:-)

Wanita

At 07:15 PM 5/6/03 +0000, you wrote:

>> There is a chapter in my area code, but I've never even heard of

>the

>> town and can't find it on the map, so it can't be too close.  NOFA

>> invited Sally to speak in Amherst in August at Hampshire College. 

>I

>> wonder if some of those folks would want to start a chapter.  The

>> nearest ones are up north near New Hampshire.

>>

>> Chris

>

>She ought to see if they wan switch it to the first half of October

>in Amherst.  I've been to 2 conferences there at that time of

>year...and it's INCREDIBLE, if you enjoy fall colors.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Yep - they audio and video taped the talks. The contact # is: (610) 923

9287 for video/dvd, (845)679-6885 for audio. We hope to make them

available at some point as well....

Cheers,

RE: Re: report on WAPF conference 2003

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>am going to get the tapes.

Tapes are going to be available? That would be great!

-

[Guest guest]

>Economics discussions might seem off-topic but I feel that economy is

>the morphogenic field for culture and food systems, and trying to change

>the American diet without focusing on economic transformation is like

>trying to reverse-engineer the car from an old hubcap. Anyway if there

>is interest I would love to see this become a part of our discussions

>here and more widely in the Foundation.

I second that. I think a lot of the mis-information about food

is decidedly economy-driven. There is the bias toward " branded "

food at this point -- that if it is " packaged " and has a " name "

it is somehow better and safer. This is even more true

with drugs -- no doctor wants to prescribe anything unless

it is listed in the PDR or involves surgery.

Heidi S

[Guest guest]

>>>>So come on, who's who? <g>

>http://photos./group/ /lst

--------->Here's the lineup. I used the newest photo ken sent and it came

out better than the previous ones.

http://photos./group/ /vwp?.dir=/WAPF+2003+Co

nference & .src=gr & .dnm=Ethiopia+Sunday.jpg & .view=t & .done=http%3a//photos.grou

ps./group/ /lst%3f%26.dir=/WAPF%2b2003%2bConference%

26.src=gr%26.view=t

(if this doesn't work, go to the website photo section and click on the WAPF

conference 2003 album.)

I'm embarrassed to say I forgot the name of the woman in the middle...can

someone refresh my memory so I can add her name?

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>>>Speaking of laughing I've been doing it straight for the last few

posts for some reason...

I remember the time someone called Suze " Suzie " on the list once and

her response was something like

>Suzie,

--------> Suzie??? That's not *my* name!

Or something like that.

-------------------------------------------->well you got the arrow part

right. <BSEG>

>>>>>Anyway it's funny that you say that Suze, about laughing, etc,

because Pam thought we were too serious lol... (Hi Pam, if yer

lurking).

------->huh?? the only time I was *not* laughing or grinning was when i was

nodding off during McCulley's speech (exhausted from the registration), and

when the woman next to me at the Ethiopian dinner was describing her

grandson's congenital brain defect. Other than that time, I recall seeing

*you* either smiling or laughing all the way through yourself. maybe she

meant some other chris and suze. <g>

>>>> I wish you a speedy recovery. It was great to see you and

hopefully next time we'll have more time to hang out and chat and

whatnot.

----->, I want to say again what I told you at the conference...despite

your battle with CFS you looked lovely, vibrant, and so youthful. I would've

pegged you for a decade younger had you not told me your age...not in any

way to dimish your struggle, but just a sincere compliment to hopefully

bring a smile :-))))) I wish we could've spent more time together...let's do

that next year...

>>>>>Chapter leader list? Where's that?

------------->WAPFchapterleaders

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>>Suze,

Or whoever did the caption... the mystery woman is Shan.

----->OK, fixed and uploaded.

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>>>What's BSEG?

----------->Big Shit Eating Grin.

well....you asked >

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>>>Dammit, I wish I didn't screw that quote up. What you really said

hilarious:

(I typed " suzie " in the archive " )

-----> " Suzie " ? oh well, it beats " suez. "

--------------->that's because my buddy Tim at Clearview acres had called me

" Suez " in a previous post. I think my response was " ...as in *canal*????? "

LOL

sorry for the OT banter, guys. maybe we should stop tying up people's email

with this mis-naming stuff, Kriss. <VBSEG>

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>>>I started a combo of homeopathy and acupuncture about 3 weeks ago.

Two weeks into it, I was feeling 30% better -- it was truly amazing.

But then I started going down hill again. It could be a " healing

crisis, " but only time will tell.

---->have you tried different therapies previous to this?

>>>>>Not to nauseate everyone else on the board with all these

compliments, but really, Suze, you don't look your age *at all*

either!!

------>oh thanks! yeah, i hope we haven't been totally nauseating, that's

why i refrained from also telling chris that he too looked a decade younger.

well...that, and because he probably wouldn't appreciate being told he looks

11.

<g> just kidding chris...you look your age :-)

>>>>>Next year, I think I'll plan on sitting at the same table with other

group members -- at the minimum.

---->save me a seat :-)

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>Here's the lineup. I used the newest photo ken sent and it came

>out better than the previous ones.

Well, Suze, you say you're not photogenic, but while I think you may be

wrong, I can't say for sure because the picture is so incredibly tiny that

you're all pretty much just little blobs of indistinct, blurry pixels. In

fact, I'm not sure if I'd know any of you on the street! Does allow

for somewhat larger pictures? Could you upload a less-shrunken version?

All kidding (or half kidding) aside, I do appreciate it! It's always nice

to be able to put names to faces. I just wish I could've made it down to

DC myself.

-

[Guest guest]

Ok ok,

It was my spell check that called you a canal, to me you are still my

computer Guru!!

Sorry I didn't make it to the conference the farm I was to consult on

changed directions so their was really no reason for me to go, other

than to meet you all which I now wish I took up a second invitation..

Looks like I will have to go next year...

Tim

Suze Fisher wrote:

> >>>>>Dammit, I wish I didn't screw that quote up. What you really

> said

> hilarious:

>

> (I typed " suzie " in the archive " )

>

> -----> " Suzie " ? oh well, it beats " suez. "

>

> --------------->that's because my buddy Tim at Clearview acres had

> called me

> " Suez " in a previous post. I think my response was " ...as in

> *canal*????? "

> LOL

>

> sorry for the OT banter, guys. maybe we should stop tying up people's

> email

> with this mis-naming stuff, Kriss. <VBSEG>

>

> Suze Fisher

> Lapdog Design, Inc.

> Web Design & Development

> http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/

> mailto:s.fisher22@...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep - she's moving to NY.

Re: report on WAPF conference 2003

---Chris: She's not leaving Kansas is she? She has been doing

positive things in Topeka relative to WAPF. I haven't spoken with her

for a while. Dennis

In , " Cogswell "

<radiantlife@e...> wrote:

> One more thing -

>

> I was talking with Benner this morning (who wasn't able to

> make it this year to the conf. because she is moving) about

economics

>

[Guest guest]

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>Just so you (and others who are trying to match names/faces) know,

>I'm not the in the picture. I'm not sure which that is.

Good to know, since I'd assumed it was you. Maybe a larger version of the

photo could be accompanied by last names where known?

-

[Guest guest]

>>>>Well, Suze, you say you're not photogenic, but while I think you may be

wrong, I can't say for sure because the picture is so incredibly tiny that

you're all pretty much just little blobs of indistinct, blurry pixels. In

fact, I'm not sure if I'd know any of you on the street! Does allow

for somewhat larger pictures? Could you upload a less-shrunken version?

----->Did you click on the thumbnail? Click on it to get the larger version.

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>>Ok ok,

It was my spell check that called you a canal, to me you are still my

computer Guru!!

----->awww shucks...:-)

>>>>Sorry I didn't make it to the conference the farm I was to consult on

changed directions so their was really no reason for me to go, other

than to meet you all which I now wish I took up a second invitation..

---->i was looking for you, and disappointed you weren't there!

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

***** I've tried lots of things (I've been sick 10 years), but I'm

honestly too tired to write about them now. I'm going out of town

tomorrow for a week to visit a friend's parents' farm. Should be

restful. (Anyway, I'm exhausted from conference, trying to pack,

but wasting time on this board because it's more fun.)

I've still got things in my diet I want to play around with (all w/in

the NT paradigm). I think/know my adrenal glands are messed up and I

haven't done too much research into that yet.

The homeopath/acupuncturist told me I'd be 50% better in 2 months and

he gets that result with 90% of the CFS people he sees. At least

I'll be able to measure that. Ron Schmid said at the conference that

his opinion is that homeopathy might help, but wouldn't be the cure.

Who knows?!

------->I guess it would depend on the skill of the practitioner to some

extent. A mediocre one or an inexperienced one might not be able to " cure "

but a really good one, just might. I think homeopathy is a modality that

probably *can* in many cases get to the root cause of symptoms and be

curative. Not that I've used it much myself, but some of the most

experienced *pet* holistic health folks swear by homeopathy compared to

other modalities for a deep, long-lasting effect. And I've read of some

excellent work being done by a few well-known, skilled veterinary

homeopaths, including one who cures lymes disease, among other things. On

the other hand, some find TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) to be most

effective at addressing the root cause. In any case, I really hope you will

experience that 50% improvement in 2 months - how wonderful that would be!

Hey, have fun at the farm...hope you get to eat lots of farm food :-)

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

>>>Just so you (and others who are trying to match names/faces) know,

I'm not the in the picture. I'm not sure which that is.

------>That is the head of the Detroit chapter - the largest most

active chapter in the country, I hear. I don't know the last names of some

of the folks in the photo, which is why I just put the first names.

Suze Fisher

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