Re: What Stage/Grade of Chondromalacia are you?

[Guest guest]

According to the MRI I had in November 2005. I had grade 3 . I have gotten

worse since then but not sure if I am grade 4 now or not. I do have constant

swelling on my right knee. My left knee seems to be fine.

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From: chondromalacia treatment

[mailto:chondromalacia treatment ] On Behalf Of lin

Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:28 AM

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Subject: What Stage/Grade of Chondromalacia are

you?

I read and have heard from some websites and from my physiotherapist

about the different stages of Chondromalacia.-..

From one website:

- Stages:

- I: swelling and softening of the cartilage;

- II: fissuring w/in the softened areas

- III: fasciclations of articular cartilage almost to level of

subchondral bone;

- IV: destruction of cartilage w/ subchondral bone exposed;

- histologically, stage IV is virtually indistinguishable from DJD;

- there is no unequivical progression from stage I to IV;

Another site:

Grade Description

I Softening and swelling

II Fissuring

III Fibrillation ( " crab meat " appearance)

IV Erosive changes and exposure of the subchondral bone

Anyways... I think I am (according to my physiotherapist) most

likely a grade III or IV. She says that I don't have a lot of

swelling in my knee cap because it's bone again bone, like two

pieces of old pavement rubbing together constantly.

What grades are everyone else, either by being told or by guessing?

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[Guest guest]

>

> According to the MRI I had in November 2005. I had grade 3 . I have

gotten

> worse since then but not sure if I am grade 4 now or not. I do have

constant

> swelling on my right knee. My left knee seems to be fine.

How can they tell on an MRI? I read and was told they can't determine

the grade or the extent of chondromalacia on MRI's... I had two and

they said " they didn't help much " ....

[Guest guest]

I was operated on and diagnosed with Grade 3 to 4. 6 months later I asked

if we could do an MRI to determine and more damage and the Doc said the the

MRI would be inconclusive.

Don

On 6/28/06, lin <bleedingtears@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > According to the MRI I had in November 2005. I had grade 3 . I have

> gotten

> > worse since then but not sure if I am grade 4 now or not. I do have

> constant

> > swelling on my right knee. My left knee seems to be fine.

>

> How can they tell on an MRI? I read and was told they can't determine

> the grade or the extent of chondromalacia on MRI's... I had two and

> they said " they didn't help much " ....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not sure this is just what the results that I got back from the 2nd MRI

the first one that I had back 2003 only said I had mild chondromalacia. The

2nd MRI was done at the dr’s office I was being seen at so not sure if that

made a difference or not. I am trying to find someone else cause I was not

impressed with the last dr I was with he seen me twice and then sent me to

pt and told me I didn’t need to follow up with him after the pt was done.

(the 2 times was the first time I went to get dx and he told me he thought I

had a torn minisc and my symptom was not chondromalacia like I thought it

was, then the 2nd time was to tell me about the mri results and then sent me

to pt) I would rather have a relationship with my dr more than just send me

to pt (yes I know that is the common treatment but at least have a follow

up).

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Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:32 PM

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Subject: Re: What Stage/Grade of Chondromalacia

are you?

>

> According to the MRI I had in November 2005. I had grade 3 . I have

gotten

> worse since then but not sure if I am grade 4 now or not. I do have

constant

> swelling on my right knee. My left knee seems to be fine.

How can they tell on an MRI? I read and was told they can't determine

the grade or the extent of chondromalacia on MRI's... I had two and

they said " they didn't help much " ....

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[Guest guest]

I think they can only really tell by going in there & poking. I just had a

partial meniscectomy on my left knee (last Fri) & the doc made a narrated

videotape. Very cool. He discovered a " grade I " spot. He poked on it w/his

probe & it was a little soft. That was my good knee.

Ann

Re: What Stage/Grade of Chondromalacia are

you?

>

> According to the MRI I had in November 2005. I had grade 3 . I have

gotten

> worse since then but not sure if I am grade 4 now or not. I do have

constant

> swelling on my right knee. My left knee seems to be fine.

How can they tell on an MRI? I read and was told they can't determine

the grade or the extent of chondromalacia on MRI's... I had two and

they said " they didn't help much " ....