Bath Oil

[Guest guest]

No it isn't anything to do with safflower. Turkey red oil is

sulphonated castor oil and it's a thick, sticky, amber-coloured oil

that disperses in water.

Safflower has a red pigment in it though, an amazing bright pink-red

colour that used to be used to dye the tape that lawyers used to tie

up packages of paperwork here in England, hence the name 'red tape'

for official, long-winded paperwork!

There is a complicated dye process that gives rich red colours and

just to be confusing that is also called the 'Turkey red process'

because it was invesnted in Turkey.

> The name is RED TURKEY OIL, neither red nor made from a turkey. It

is a hybrid of the safflower. It is the only oil that is water

dispersible.

Kat

[Guest guest]

Thanks Deb and Terri, I love that Caribbean Musk, and wanted to try it in my bath. Kathy

[Guest guest]

This is true.. I myself always add a few drops of FO or EO straight to my bath... just a few drops though, but I skin of steal not everyone can handle them straight. We have that jet spa too that keeps things from pooling.

Terri

[Guest guest]

After seeing my FO's burn holes through plastic bottles I realized just how strong they were! You lucky bum Terri...I just have to paddle my feet in my tub if I want a spa treatment! Bob and I sell watergardening supplies to a spa co. up near G. and I am working on them to cut us a deal...but I also want an old claw foot tub like the one originally found in our bath and I can't have both unfortunately.

Deb

[Guest guest]

At 11:41 AM 8/20/01 +0000, you wrote:

>I am assuming that if I use a base oil and an essential oil together,

>there will be no separation because they are both oils???? Another

>newbie question.

your reasoning is wrong, but the answer is right... essential oils are NOT

truly " oils " ...they are volatile... but they DO dissolve in " fixed oils " or

" carrier oils " or " base oils " so.....yes... they won't separate.

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[Guest guest]

Does anybody have a recipe for either a bath oil or an after bath

oil? I have a couple of customers wanting a oil for use either in or

after the bath. Also is there a good combination for a massage oil?

Thanks again for all the help I have been getting here.

Charise

[Guest guest]

Hi Sunny,

I'm not sure how you concluded that .5% eo in a massage/bath oil

blend is " better " than 3-5%. Granted 5% is on the high end, but I

should have stated that I typically only use this much with lavender

oil or tea tree, which can be applied neat (meaning without

dilution) @ 100%. You're making me have to think here & double check

some of my facts, but this is the research that my numbers are based

on. I should have taken the time to back up my recommendation. 1-3%

is the general recommended amount in " The Illustrated Encyclopedia

of Essential Oils " , but they do have massage oil recipes with up to

5%. " The Complete Book of Essential Oils & Aromatherapy "

recommends up to 5% dilution in an oil base.

Although I am not a certified aromatherapist, I have been studying

aromatherapy since 1995 & have been a license & certified massage

therapist since 1996. In the case of massage, the type of eo you

are using, as well as the individual, must also be considered. I

have done thousands of massages & after a consultation, I have used

blends with up to 5% on hundreds of clients without ill effects.

For general resale, I would always recommend that you do as much

research as possible prior to using essential oils and then

determine what you feel is best for your customers. Essential oils

are very potent & you must understand what they are capable of prior

to using them on yourself or others. Studies have shown trace

amounts of essential oils in the internal organs within 20 minutes

after being massaged onto the feet. So, you must take into

consideration not only the aromatherapy values of eo's, but because

of their molecular structure, the fact that the oils will be

absorbed into the bloodstream if you are applying it onto the skin.

You wouldn't want to use rosemary on someone with high blood

pressure or clary sage on a pregnant woman. As little as 3.5 ml of

eucalyptus globulas taken internally can be fatal & lesser amounts

can cause coma. I have compiled some basic info on my website & you

can check out my Precautions & About Ingredients Pages for more

info. (The list is nowhere near complete.)

Essential oils must be treated with great respect. The dilution

amount will depend on the oil, but typically 3-5% is a safe amount.

Whatever dilution you choose, I would strongly recommend to everyone

that you are as educated about your product as possible.

If you have documentation that supports my current usage to be off

the scale, I am more than happy to look at it. Ultimately, my goal

is to do whatever is best for my clients & customers.

Bright Blessings,

Tammy Tivis

www.ElementsBathandBody.com

> That looks like an awful lot of essential oil to me. 0.5% is

better

> although I do not use even that much...

> Sunny Imhof

> Lizardhead Natural Products

[Guest guest]

should have stated that I typically only use this much with lavender

oil or tea tree, which can be applied neat (meaning without

dilution) @ 100%.

You ALWAYS need to dilute essential oils, EVEN tea tree and lavender.

There are many people now who have developed sensitivity to these two

oils because of using them neat. You may be able to pour 2 gallons of

them over your head and not have a problem or you may just get a drop on

your skin and become sensitized, no on knows. I would prefer not to

take that chance. Besides when you use oils neat then you use lots of

oils and it is expensive. Why waste money and run the risk of becoming

sensitized to boot? Sorry, my little soap box. I know you wrote that

you only use 5% and not neat, I just wanted to make it clear about

sensitizing.

J

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Hi ,

I should've clarified about the lavender & tea tree being used

neat. Personally, I have applied them this way for years, but would

never use them that way on my clients & don't recommend that they be

used that way when I sell them. For my husband's foot fungus, tea

tree applied neat is the only thing that will kick it. When I have

a cut or burn, straight lavender leaves me feeling wonderful the

next day (not to mention, the chemist Rene-Maurice Gattefosse

discovered its ability to heal burns in 1928 after he severely

burned his hand in a lab accident). I've been around essential oils

& studied them for nearly 10 years, so I'm not saying that I'm

qualified, but I have a good idea of what I'm doing. I appreciate

that essential oils, just because they are a botanical extract

& " all natural " , need to be handled with great care. Wild mushrooms

are also " all natural " , but I don't walk around the yard popping

them in my mouth.

Essential oils are so widely misrepresented & misunderstood, I'm

glad that you posted that side note to the group. I've personally

never read about anyone developing a sensitivity to tea tree or

lavender (or any eo for that matter) & would love to read up about

that if you've got the documentation handy. I have heard of people

developing sensitivies to synthetic fragrances (because of the

solvent fumes & chemical compounds) & actually having to get out of

the biz.

Bright Blessings,

Tammy Tivis

www.ElementsBathandBody.com

> You ALWAYS need to dilute essential oils, EVEN tea tree and

lavender. There are many people now who have developed sensitivity

to these two oils because of using them neat. I know you wrote that

you only use 5% and not neat, I just wanted to make it clear about

> sensitizing.

> J

[Guest guest]

>>>I know you wrote that you only use 5% and not neat, I just wanted

to make it clear about sensitizing. J<<<

I am glad you wrote that because sometimes the bottle may read that

one can apply lavender or tea tree oil directly onto the skin....but

MOST OFTEN this will cause contact dermatitis or even burning and

these Essential oils, or ANY Essential Oil is very very potent and

should NEVER be applied to the skin directly, they should always be

diluted with water or oil before applying to the skin.

My daughter got badly burned by applying tea tree oil directly!

She still has scars from the burning!!

And one other thing, 5 % is not " golden rule " for incorporating

essential oils into a product your making.....one should Always

Follow the Manufactures directions for dilution. Some essential oil

are more potent than others and 5 % would be too much or also too

little to be effective...if you do not know the % to add to a product

your making, contact the manf and ASK for the dilution rate and the

MSDS sheet on the specific oil.

There are can be Many different " Grades " of Essential oils, and

although they may have the same name, such as lavender or tea tree

oil, the " Potency " may vary Substaintally, depending upon the

manufacturer and the Quality of the specific Essential oil.

hth

Sherry

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry,

You brought up some great points. I would like to reclarify that I

do not advocate that anyone use essential oils without having an

understanding of their potency. If you're not informed about any

product, whether it is synthetic or natural, it is best advised to

do as much research about it prior to applying it in your products

or on your skin.

I would also like to note that I never indicated that 5% is

a " golden rule " . I said that a 3-5% usage is the " standard " in the

books that I've read (The Complete Book of Essential Oils &

Aromatherapy by Ann Worwood & The Illustrated Encyclopedia

of Essential Oils by Lawless to name just 2). You have to

take into consideration that each oil has unique characteristics

that would change the usage rate. The application also needs to be

considered (massage oil, lip balm, lotion, etc). With some oils, I

only use 1% or less & with others, I max out @ 5%... just depends on

the product & the result I'm trying to achieve.

Bright Blessings,

Tammy Tivis

www.ElementsBathandBody.com

> MOST OFTEN this will cause contact dermatitis or even burning and

> these Essential oils, or ANY Essential Oil is very very potent and

> should NEVER be applied to the skin directly, they should always

be

> diluted with water or oil before applying to the skin.

> And one other thing, 5 % is not " golden rule " for incorporating

> essential oils into a product your making.

> Sherry

[Guest guest]

thats about the only bath item i dont make. bubble bombs, fizzy bombs, salts,

cupcakes, melts, jelly...

>

> Does anyone here still make bath oil? Freind of my hubbys wants some lavender

bath oil but its been sooo long since Ive made it I am not sure of the ratio's

anymore. Can anyone lend me a hand?

>

> Thx

> Shaye

>

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Its ok.... I got it. thanks

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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:31 PM

Subject: Re: Bath Oil

thats about the only bath item i dont make. bubble bombs, fizzy bombs,

salts, cupcakes, melts, jelly...

>

> Does anyone here still make bath oil? Freind of my hubbys wants some

lavender bath oil but its been sooo long since Ive made it I am not sure of

the ratio's anymore. Can anyone lend me a hand?

>

> Thx

> Shaye

>