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Jim: Thanks--please let me know how to reach the people you refer to in

relation

to Kundalini. You're absolutely correct that only those who have had

experience

can help. We have found very little in the way of help or understanding.

dorothy

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Dorothy,

I have several friends on another elist who are specialists (compared to

us) in the field of kundalini awakenings. I have sat on the sidelines as

they have guided others on this quest. I can forward you to them if you

wish. It is best dealt with by those who have been there. No one else

will have anything relevant to say.

jim :)

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> To all: I have a friend (now age 37) who 7 years ago woke up with pain,

> nerve damage, etc. I have been involved for a long time with the Spiritual

> Emergence

> Network and people who have been crippled by Kundalini energy suddenly rising.

> This seems to be what has happened to him. Is anyone familiar with this

> phenomenon of Kundalini? there are many people in the US, Sweden, etc. and

> around the world who have experienced this. There are a number of books on

> the subject and some Websites. My friend has been unable to work for 7 years

> and feels there just isn't any help for him. I wonder if there is anything

> that

> might help with the nerve damage--for instance, is it possible that the Rife

> equipment might help? He is able to get around ok, drives, etc., but is in a

> constant state of exhaustion and can't work at a regular job. dorothy

>

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Dorothy - Been there, got over it - not completely, but on the way.

I do not think that external techniques can help too much, besides Tai-Chi,

perhaps.

I did find that certain - and specific - magnet therapy can help. Contact

off-line for details.

All in all - many people panic at the phenomena. By panic, they block

healing. I have some explanations (that work for me) and will be happy to

share them with you.

Any way - 7 years is probably the time it takes to get over it.

Ronen.

Nerve damage

To all: I have a friend (now age 37) who 7 years ago woke up with pain,

nerve damage, etc. I have been involved for a long time with the Spiritual

Emergence

Network and people who have been crippled by Kundalini energy suddenly

rising.

This seems to be what has happened to him. Is anyone familiar with this

phenomenon of Kundalini? there are many people in the US, Sweden, etc. and

around the world who have experienced this. There are a number of books on

the subject and some Websites. My friend has been unable to work for 7

years

and feels there just isn't any help for him. I wonder if there is anything

that

might help with the nerve damage--for instance, is it possible that the Rife

equipment might help? He is able to get around ok, drives, etc., but is in

a

constant state of exhaustion and can't work at a regular job. dorothy

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I would recommend to your friend that he see a skilled homeopath that

practices classical homeopathy. The remedies that match the Kundulini

phenomena are often remedies like Lachesis, Hydorgen, Sulphur, Cannabis and

Anhalonium ---- but he should go to a skilled classical homeopathy and see

which homeopathic remedy is his match and take the proper potency under that

homeopath's supervision.

If you want to adress the nerve pain alone then, the remedy Hypericum taken

at 30c potency and below (dont take anything higher without the supervision

of a homeopath) might bring some good relieve. To rebuild nerves or to

nourish them the cell salt Kali Phos in potencies under 12c is usually a good

idea. If you get a 6x potency (which is eqaul to a 3c) then it should be

taken several times a day for at least 3 months.

There are units called Photon units that have helped people with terrible

pain syndromes. There are many sites for them online as I have seen them

advertised in Alternative Medicine Digest put out by the Goldberg group. I

don't know them off the top of my head but an easy search on a search engine

will lead to them.

In a message dated 02/18/2001 3:03:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

dbates3809@... writes:

<<

To all: I have a friend (now age 37) who 7 years ago woke up with pain,

nerve damage, etc. I have been involved for a long time with the Spiritual

Emergence

Network and people who have been crippled by Kundalini energy suddenly

rising.

This seems to be what has happened to him. Is anyone familiar with this

phenomenon of Kundalini? there are many people in the US, Sweden, etc. and

around the world who have experienced this. There are a number of books on

the subject and some Websites. My friend has been unable to work for 7 years

and feels there just isn't any help for him. I wonder if there is anything

that

might help with the nerve damage--for instance, is it possible that the Rife

equipment might help? He is able to get around ok, drives, etc., but is in

a

constant state of exhaustion and can't work at a regular job. dorothy

>>

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I know this is OT but I think a lot of people would like to know this. So

please excuse the post.I just received this.

Christel

>>I have to give oyu some bad news today. Dr. 's clinic was closed down

yesterday by Mexican authorities. The authorities claim Dr. did not have

the necessary licenses. Dr. says she does. The newspapers confirmed that

she was entitled to do nutritional consulting in Mexico, according to her

papers. All IVs etc. were done by the doctor who also worked there, so we

can't

really see why they say she does not have a license. We can only guess that

our

quackwatch friend Barrett may have provided them with some false information.

We do not have much more information but will inform you as soon as we know

more.

Sincerely

P. Amrein

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About toxins: the best information I have found so far is that the toxic

emotions

stored up for a lifetime (rage, pain, resentment--all unexpressed feelings)

are

what causes the blockage. It was through releasing all this for months

that I solved it for myself. But the idea of toxins in the body never

occurred to

me. I'm going to transmit this information to people on the Kundalini

Survival

and Support Forum...there are many who have been going through this for years.

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There is no way to explain Kundalini briefly. Saul mentioned the book " The

Kundalini

Experience, " by Lee Sannella, M.D., which is quite informative. Also,

Energies of

Transformation by Bonnie Greenwell, Ph.D., is very good and lists all the many

symptoms. Most M.D.s and psychiatrists haven't a clue about Kundalini so the

people

who avoid them tend to be better off. There are a number of websites devoted

to

this subject with a lot of explanations..they can be found by putting

Kundalini

in the search engines.

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Probably should take him to a chiropractor who does Receptor Tonus - Nimmo

technique. If he is anywhere around Quincy, IL, get him to Dr. Laws. --jp

Nerve damage

To all: I have a friend (now age 37) who 7 years ago woke up with pain,

nerve damage, etc. I have been involved for a long time with the Spiritual

Emergence

Network and people who have been crippled by Kundalini energy suddenly rising.

This seems to be what has happened to him. Is anyone familiar with this

phenomenon of Kundalini? there are many people in the US, Sweden, etc. and

around the world who have experienced this. There are a number of books on

the subject and some Websites. My friend has been unable to work for 7 years

and feels there just isn't any help for him. I wonder if there is anything

that

might help with the nerve damage--for instance, is it possible that the Rife

equipment might help? He is able to get around ok, drives, etc., but is in a

constant state of exhaustion and can't work at a regular job. dorothy

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alternative self-help subjects.

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I really hate this story. It is so senseless. Kundalini can be so

dangerous. It makes me so sad for people.

Anyway, I would suggest colostrum, once again. it has nerve growth factor

and people with MS have had great success with repairing their nervous systems

with it.

If you want more info you can contact me privately,

Donna

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Subject: Nerve damage

To all: I have a friend (now age 37) who 7 years ago woke up with pain,

nerve damage, etc. I have been involved for a long time with the Spiritual

Emergence

Network and people who have been crippled by Kundalini energy suddenly

rising.

This seems to be what has happened to him. Is anyone familiar with this

phenomenon of Kundalini? there are many people in the US, Sweden, etc. and

around the world who have experienced this. There are a number of books on

the subject and some Websites. My friend has been unable to work for 7

years

and feels there just isn't any help for him. I wonder if there is anything

that

might help with the nerve damage--for instance, is it possible that the Rife

equipment might help? He is able to get around ok, drives, etc., but is in

a

constant state of exhaustion and can't work at a regular job. dorothy

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health

care provider.

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Dorothy wrote:

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>> To all: I have a friend (now age 37) who 7 years ago woke up

with pain, nerve damage, etc. I have been involved for a long time

with the Spiritual Emergence Network and people who have been

crippled by Kundalini energy suddenly rising. This seems to be what

has happened to him. ... My friend has been unable to work for 7

years and feels there just isn't any help for him. I wonder if

there is anything that might help with the nerve damage -- for

instance, is it possible that the Rife equipment might help? He is

able to get around ok, drives, etc., but is in a constant state of

exhaustion and can't work at a regular job. dorothy <<

Could it be a dental mercury or galvanism (mixed dental metals

in the mouth) problem, and/or a jaw abscess with neuralgia ?

Kundalini may be a red herring. There are many possibilities,

including apnea + stroke, aneurysm, etc., possibly involving a

detectable brain or cerebrovascular damage or deformity.

Has he (at least) had a brain-MRI and diagnosis by a team of

Cerebrovascular and Neurologist MDs ? How about a complete

Endocrinology study ? ...and an over-night sleep study ?

An effective treatment might include EEG Neuro-Feedback (see -

http://www.eegspectrum.com ) -- in order to assist the brain

in re-establishing functions that may have been compromised.

Also, Provigil (modafinil) could help the exhaustion,

if he could afford it -- and if the neurologist would

prescribe it following a complete diagnosis.

Bill

from: http://www.misdiagnosed.com/NONOTES5.htm

Depression Symptoms of Circulatory Origin

Copyright 1998 Reid C. Swenson, M.S. (Health Education)

excerpt:

ROUTINELY UNDIAGNOSED AND MISDIAGNOSED CIRCULATORY DISORDERS

Some of the various and obscure -- yet very serious --

underlying circulatory-related physiological disorders

which may be brushed off as " depression " or some other

type of psychological or psychiatric disorder include:

cardiac and cerebrovascular insufficiency, vertebrobasilar

artery insufficiency, arteriosclerosis, fibromyalgia,

angiogram-negative subarachnoid hemorrhages and their

sequelae, whiplash, strained or injured neck (muscles,

disks, or vertebrae which impinge on arteries), nuchal

rigidity (rigid or stiff neck), other neck complaints and

trauma, heart disease, arterial stenosis, steal syndrome

(short-circuited or reverse blood flow in an arterial

system), undetected aneurysm, hypothyroidism, vascular

disorders of metabolic and/or hormonal origin (including

diabetes), vascular disorders stemming from obesity and

vascular inefficiency or exhaustion, anemia, apnea,

hypoglycemia, blood and blood cell anomaly, pulmonary

disorders, pituitary and adrenal disorders, certain

malignancies, infections, collagen vascular disease,

vitamin/mineral deficiencies and toxicity, etc.

..

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Debbie, I don't have the answer to that, but wanted to let you know I'll be praying for you also. Treatment isn't for everyone. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: DS [mailto:grrlkitty@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:53 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Nerve DamageHello,Does anyone have any information about nerve damage as a result of Hep Cinterferon treatment? During the fifth week of treatment I was hospitalized,became extremely ill and could not walk.Tests revealed there was nerve damage affecting my right leg and thatmuscle enzymes were being attacked by the chemotherapy treatment.After three weeks in rehab I am learning to walk again. Currently I amreceive physical therapy three times a week and going through what will be along recovery process and am told I may never recover the full use of myleg.To say the least this has been a nightmare, but made better for the love andprayers of family, friends and co-workers. I was not aware of this "sideeffect" of that is what it is, and would not wish for anyone else to evergo through this.I have heard from at least one other person who had symptoms very similar tomine and think there may be more out there. It seems there is so littleinformation that my Doctors and Neurologists are aware of and informationwould be helpful.It is not my intention to scare people away from a treatment that may belife saving, but I would greatly appreciate any information that isavailable on the subject. Thank you in advance.Debbie

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OK I am not trying to scare any one OK.. But I have a friend in Bath Mich.. who know has seizures..Don't know why, her doctors don't know why either..KathyGail Deveaux <gaila@...> wrote:

I don't remember hearing about that side effect.I know my legs were very weak when I was on treatment,but not nerve damage.If you hear anymore please let us know.

Gail

http://deveauxkennels.tk

mailto:gaila@...

-----Original Message-----From: Motley [mailto:dmotley@...]Sent: January 19, 2005 6:52 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: RE: Nerve Damage

Debbie, I don't have the answer to that, but wanted to let you know I'll be praying for you also. Treatment isn't for everyone. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.

De

Faith is the ability to not panic.

-----Original Message-----From: DS [mailto:grrlkitty@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:53 AMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Nerve DamageHello,Does anyone have any information about nerve damage as a result of Hep Cinterferon treatment? During the fifth week of treatment I was hospitalized,became extremely ill and could not walk.Tests revealed there was nerve damage affecting my right leg and thatmuscle enzymes were being attacked by the chemotherapy treatment.After three weeks in rehab I am learning to walk again. Currently I amreceive physical therapy three times a week and going through what will be along recovery process and am told I may never recover the full use of myleg.To say the least this has been a

nightmare, but made better for the love andprayers of family, friends and co-workers. I was not aware of this "sideeffect" of that is what it is, and would not wish for anyone else to evergo through this.I have heard from at least one other person who had symptoms very similar tomine and think there may be more out there. It seems there is so littleinformation that my Doctors and Neurologists are aware of and informationwould be helpful.It is not my intention to scare people away from a treatment that may belife saving, but I would greatly appreciate any information that isavailable on the subject. Thank you in advance.DebbieKathy Brunow

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Can someone please tell me the percentage of possible damage to the lingual and dental inferior nerve in surgical extractions of wisdom tooth and where did you get this info from?, at the moment I have different info but i do not know which one is trustful.thanksGabyBy the way I f you want to know the fluoride conc. in the water go to thames water website and wirte down the postcode that you want to know!London has less than 0.2 ppm of fluoride !!!!!( at least in the areas that I research!!

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