Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 > Can anyone tell me where to look for Bee's Wax and Shea butter? Angie, I had a hard time trying to find Beeswax locally too... I ended up having to order mine online... I would suggest you get the pastilles - little beads - of beeswax rather than a solid block of it - it will make things much easier when trying to measure it! Shea butter I've never tried, but I don't offhand remembering seeing that anywhere locally, so that would be another thing you would probably need to order online... HTH! Kelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 1999 Report Share Posted December 24, 1999 I didn't ask about Beeswax or Shea Butter, I just said I couldn't find Beeswax either- but ordered it online through a great company - but reccommend for lip balms getting the pastilles- as it's much easier to measure. Here's the original post from Angie at halpw@... Please write to her if you have sources for these products - Thank you! > Can anyone tell me where to look for Bee's Wax and Shea butter? > I could not find either at my local health food store. I wanted to try some > lip balm. Recipes also appreciated:) > Thanks, > angie halpw@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 Hi Friends -- OK - I just couldn't wait!! (ADD kicking in??) Here's what I did & it worked really well. I did use a stocking (yes, it was brand new...) and I melted the wax down in a pan over direct heat (electric). I cut the foot off the stocking and placed it over the top of the mason jar & as the wax melted, I used a turkey baster (LOVE that thing) and sucked from the pan then emptied into the stocking. VOILA...clean wax. I have enough wax now to last me a while and tons of honey, too - too bad I'm off sugar! Seemed like too simple of a thing, but it worked for me. I got 4 mason jars plus an ice cube tray full & all the honey -- all for the price of a couple of bars of soap! If anyone has a better method than this, PLEASE let me know for the future. Thanks & have a great weekend. Michele L << From: Bernershel@... > > HELP -I was just given a bunch of beeswax that is dirty (I know that's not > the technical term:) ) There's a batch that still has honey and a bunch of > brown stuff. I was able to get a lot of the wax off when it was hot & poured > it into a jar. How can I filter the rest of the wax? I heard of someone > putting the wax into nylon stockings and immersing into boiling water - the > gunk stayed in the nylons & the wax melted out. ANY info you can give me > would be very appreciated. I use the beeswax & honey for soapmaking,, so I > need it to be " clean " - yup that means no wings or bodies! > Also - how do I separate the honey from the wax - is it to be assumed that > there will be some product which contains both & just needs to be tossed? > I am on digest, so private post are really appreciated! > > Thanks a lot! > > Michele >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 Hi Friends -- OK - I just couldn't wait!! (ADD kicking in??) Here's what I did & it worked really well. I did use a stocking (yes, it was brand new...) and I melted the wax down in a pan over direct heat (electric). I cut the foot off the stocking and placed it over the top of the mason jar & as the wax melted, I used a turkey baster (LOVE that thing) and sucked from the pan then emptied into the stocking. VOILA...clean wax. I have enough wax now to last me a while and tons of honey, too - too bad I'm off sugar! Seemed like too simple of a thing, but it worked for me. I got 4 mason jars plus an ice cube tray full & all the honey -- all for the price of a couple of bars of soap! If anyone has a better method than this, PLEASE let me know for the future. Thanks & have a great weekend. Michele L << From: Bernershel@... > > HELP -I was just given a bunch of beeswax that is dirty (I know that's not > the technical term:) ) There's a batch that still has honey and a bunch of > brown stuff. I was able to get a lot of the wax off when it was hot & poured > it into a jar. How can I filter the rest of the wax? I heard of someone > putting the wax into nylon stockings and immersing into boiling water - the > gunk stayed in the nylons & the wax melted out. ANY info you can give me > would be very appreciated. I use the beeswax & honey for soapmaking,, so I > need it to be " clean " - yup that means no wings or bodies! > Also - how do I separate the honey from the wax - is it to be assumed that > there will be some product which contains both & just needs to be tossed? > I am on digest, so private post are really appreciated! > > Thanks a lot! > > Michele >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Hi , GloryBee has a lot of great informaiton and materials for making beeswax candles. Also, they are really nice to work with and have great prices! Their URL is: http://www.glorybee.com/ Good Luck : ) ~ --- Toon <sltoon@...> wrote: > Could someone help me? I currently use a supplier > for my beeswax > candles but would like to start doing them myself. > Where can I go for > what is needed to make them? > > > > -- > L. Toon - Owner > Nature's Very Best > Uniquely Designed, Twig Gift Baskets With An > All-Natural Approach! > http://www.naturesverybest.com > > http://www.MadisonBlvd.com - COMING SOON > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2000 Report Share Posted March 29, 2000 <<Hi. Can anyone tell me what the shelf life for beeswax is? Thanks, >> Bev, Well....I'm not sure what the official stance from the manufacturer is, but I was cleaning out my basement about two weeks ago and discovered an *old* stash of soapmaking supplies which, on a wild guess, I'm thinking are almost 6 years old and the 5 lb. bag of beeswax seems to be just fine. This is a bleached and deodorized wax, so I don't know if the natural yellow would have a problem, although I wouldnt think so. Melody Rainbow Meadow Inc.™ http://www.rainbowmeadow.com Current sales: http://www.rainbowmeadow.com/sale.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 >I just bought a 1lb bag of " cosmetic grade " beeswax beads. Previously I'd >bought it from an apiary at the local farmer's market. Hi, Beeswax from gowers in different area's will not be exactly the same as far as the makeup of the wax, depending on the species of the bees producing the wax. It has a very complex structure, consisting of chain lengths C14 to C35, about 15% free fatty acids, (this is why it can be neutralized with borax - just like any oil or saponifiable), 15% hydrocarbon resins and the balance is esters which is an emollient. Cosmetic grade takes was from several area's combines them and brings them all up to an equal standard so every batch of wax is consistent in molecular nature. They do this so your results when using this grade will be consistent in formulas. Wax from Florida will not be the " same " as wax from California, and your end result may not be the same. The color of the wax depends on the flower and the age of the hive. The color difference can vary widely and this is also standardized. They also clean it so it is very pure and may or may not be bleached. Bleaching is not a chemical process, it is laid out in the sun in slabs and the yellow tone fades. Using this grade also means you do not have to list on your label, " May contain Bee Parts or Bee Poop " . HTH, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2000 Report Share Posted October 24, 2000 Thanks for all the beeswax ideas. Think I found what I was looking for. Hoping to use this for lotion bars. Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 kadiya i was making body butters last week and i used the recommended amount of bees wax actually i used about half as much.....i felt it was still too firm so i made somemore with less beeswax and more mango butter..... better but still a bit stiff probbably ok for tubes where it has to hold its shape but i think i will leave it out of next batch and put the product in a jar .....so anyways i think you can cut way back and up the butter and the oil.....i think yo will get a softer nicer feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 Yeah, I want something really smooth...thanks alot! Khadiyja Y. Ali Shades of the Nubian www.shadesofthenubian.com Featuring Shea Butter Bath & Body Essentials (888) 43-NUBIAN Take time out to enjoy the experience! Re: Beeswax kadiya i was making body butters last week and i used the recommended amount of bees wax actually i used about half as much.....i felt it was still too firm so i made somemore with less beeswax and more mango butter..... better but still a bit stiff probbably ok for tubes where it has to hold its shape but i think i will leave it out of next batch and put the product in a jar .....so anyways i think you can cut way back and up the butter and the oil.....i think yo will get a softer nicer feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 Thanks~ Khadiyja Y. Ali Shades of the Nubian www.shadesofthenubian.com Featuring Shea Butter Bath & Body Essentials (888) 43-NUBIAN Take time out to enjoy the experience! Beeswax Hi everybody, Do you feel you have to add beeswax to a body butter? Why or why not? Khadiyja Y. Ali Shades of the Nubian www.shadesofthenubian.com Featuring Shea Butter Bath & Body Essentials (888) 43-NUBIAN Take time out to enjoy the experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 Hi, Just to put in my vote - I make two kinds of body butter, one with mango and one without and I use beeswax in both of them. I use a bit more beeswax with the mango butter because I think it comes out with a smoother texture. Sydney Beeswax Hi everybody, Do you feel you have to add beeswax to a body butter? Why or why not? Khadiyja Y. Ali Shades of the Nubian www.shadesofthenubian.com Featuring Shea Butter Bath & Body Essentials (888) 43-NUBIAN Take time out to enjoy the experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2001 Report Share Posted March 5, 2001 Hi Khadiyja, Beeswax is just a simple way to make a cream stiffer. If you are using other solid fats and want a soft cream you may find that you don't need any beeswax. It's very much up to you and the sort of recipes you use. > Hi everybody, > Do you feel you have to add beeswax to a body butter? Why or why not? Eleanor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2001 Report Share Posted March 5, 2001 I use beeswax in my body butter, I make a creamy butter vs the bar type. I haven’t been able to make it the consistency I want without beeswax. I use shea, cocoa and virgin coconut + liquid oils, beeswax and a little stearic acid. Re: Beeswax Hi, Just to put in my vote - I make two kinds of body butter, one with mango and one without and I use beeswax in both of them. I use a bit more beeswax with the mango butter because I think it comes out with a smoother texture. Sydney Beeswax Hi everybody, Do you feel you have to add beeswax to a body butter? Why or why not? Khadiyja Y. Ali Shades of the Nubian www.shadesofthenubian.com Featuring Shea Butter Bath & Body Essentials (888) 43-NUBIAN Take time out to enjoy the experience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2001 Report Share Posted March 5, 2001 what is stearic acid, and what does it do? On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:16:07 -0500, Tima wrote: :I use beeswax in my body butter, I make a creamy butter vs the bar :type. I :haven’t been able to make it the consistency I want without beeswax. :I use :shea, cocoa and virgin coconut + liquid oils, beeswax and a little :stearic :acid. : Be Love, Berijoy -- berijoy@... on 03/05/2001 http://www.egyirba.com » «:* ` `*:» «» «:* ` `*:»» «:* ` To see you is to sympathize. _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2001 Report Share Posted March 5, 2001 It is made from soybean. Used to harden soaps/candles and thicken and creams. It is listed as and additive with most suppliers such as www.glorybee.com <http://www.glorybee.com/> and www.fnwl.com RE: Beeswax what is stearic acid, and what does it do? On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:16:07 -0500, Tima wrote: :I use beeswax in my body butter, I make a creamy butter vs the bar :type. I :haven’t been able to make it the consistency I want without beeswax. :I use :shea, cocoa and virgin coconut + liquid oils, beeswax and a little :stearic :acid. : Be Love, Berijoy -- berijoy@... on 03/05/2001 http://www.egyirba.com » «:* ` `*:» «» «:* ` `*:»» «:* ` To see you is to sympathize. _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 Hi Tina, Stearic acid is one of the fatty acids and can be extracted from a number of sources including soya and palm oil, but also from animal fats so if that's important to you, check with your supplier. > It is made from soybean. Used to harden soaps/candles and thicken <SNIP> > what is stearic acid, and what does it do? Eleanor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 What I use is from soybean, not palm stearic, Thanks as well, I did check with the supplier. Re: Beeswax Hi Tina, Stearic acid is one of the fatty acids and can be extracted from a number of sources including soya and palm oil, but also from animal fats so if that's important to you, check with your supplier. > It is made from soybean. Used to harden soaps/candles and thicken <SNIP> > what is stearic acid, and what does it do? Eleanor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 Hi Tina, You're welcome. Some people don't know that it can come from animal sources and if you are vegetarian that matters very much of course. The stearic acid I have is from palm oil which is how I know. > What I use is from soybean, not palm stearic, Thanks as well, I did check > with the supplier. Eleanor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Coming out from " Lurkdum. " I just went to the PETA site, and I am puzzled. According to them, I guess I am condemned to survive on Veggies only. Well, I am wearing " pleather " shoes, eat my veggies and also enjoy chicken and steak. I am getting ready to make soap, and yes, I will use honey, lard and whatever, and after a bath will snuggle under my 30+ year-old down comforter. I wonder if they posted no-no's to the animals to make sure they don't gobble up whatever is lower on the food chain. Too bad they don't put that much energy into helping children in need in this country. Greetings from land, Carmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Marcelle~ PETA is a very extremist group...In their list of alternatives to beeswax they list parrafin which is a petroleum product...I do not feel that any petroleum based product is skin friendly. There has been a lot of research done on honey,beeswax, etc. and this is the first time I have ever seen *any* reference to it being harmful. Most consider it safe and gentle. I will research this further but it will be awhile, got other things on the burner ) right now...HTH And BTW, we are beekeepers and I can assure you that we treat our bees with the upmost care, we feel it is a partnership, we provide for them in some ways and visa versa.They are some of God's most fascinating creatures IMHO. Blessings ~ Tammy Gladheart Acres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 I have been doing this toiletries thing for about a year now. I have come to realize that there is NO ingredient that can be used that somebody doesn't think is " harmful " . Every ingredient that has appeared on this list has been " pooh-poohed " by someone. Except, maybe, olive oil. But, if we are going to use straight olive oil, we won't really have much of a business, will we? I'm with you on the " bee " thing. I was very surprised to see what they had to say about it, and, it won't change what I am doing. I think beeswax works great. I have come to realize we can never have a 100% concensus about any ingredient. So, I just do my best to use the ingredients I think are least harmful to most people. Live and learn Marcelle --- R & T Shields <heritage@...> wrote: > Marcelle~ > > PETA is a very extremist group...In their list of > alternatives to beeswax > they list parrafin which is a petroleum product...I > do not feel that any > petroleum based product is skin friendly. There has > been a lot of research > done on honey,beeswax, etc. and this is the first > time I have ever seen > *any* reference to it being harmful. Most consider > it safe and gentle. I > will research this further but it will be awhile, > got other things on the > burner ) right now...HTH And BTW, we are > beekeepers and I can assure you > that we treat our bees with the upmost care, we feel > it is a partnership, we > provide for them in some ways and visa versa.They > are some of God's most > fascinating creatures IMHO. > > Blessings ~ > Tammy > Gladheart Acres > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 I have to wonder if the PETA organization has done clinical research on this, or if it is a few isolated cases of skin irritation? In any case it gives one pause for thought, I know I will be doing a little more research on this. Thanks for the update! ttfn, Peggy Marcelle Karustis wrote: > > I was doing some research on ingredients and was a > little surprised at what the PETA page said about > beeswax. We use it all the time. Has anyone seen > this? Any comments on it??? > http://www.peta.com/liv/cc/ingred.html > Marcelle > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 At 03:05 PM 4/4/01 -0700, you wrote: >Every ingredient that has >appeared on this list has been " pooh-poohed " by >someone. Except, maybe, olive oil Oh, a friend of mine confided he's allergic to olive oil- and it's the only case I ever heard of. So not even that is completely safe BUT labelling stuff properly helps people avoid whatever they can't live with. Tamara Zyganiuk www.spellboundbotanicals.com Coming soon: Spellbound Botanicals Online Catalogue Toll-free 1-866-264-4421 to get a price list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Not only is it a petroleum product, I researched parrafin for candlemaking and found that it is a byproduct of gasoline and people can have VERY adverse reactions to it from burning a candle or using it in beauty products! What a disturbing website! ttfn, Peggy R & T Shields wrote: > > Marcelle~ > > PETA is a very extremist group...In their list of alternatives to beeswax > they list parrafin which is a petroleum product...I do not feel that any > petroleum based product is skin friendly. There has been a lot of research > done on honey,beeswax, etc. and this is the first time I have ever seen > *any* reference to it being harmful. Most consider it safe and gentle. I > will research this further but it will be awhile, got other things on the > burner ) right now...HTH And BTW, we are beekeepers and I can assure you > that we treat our bees with the upmost care, we feel it is a partnership, we > provide for them in some ways and visa versa.They are some of God's most > fascinating creatures IMHO. > > Blessings ~ > Tammy > Gladheart Acres > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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