Prolotherapy (was: what I'm learning about the SI Joint)

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Hi Nina:

I got prolotherapy injections back in 2001 in my left knee. My

doc " tightened up " the entire knee joint. He injected the medial &

lateral collateral ligaments, the lateral coronary ligament, the pes

anserinus tendon, the attachment of the VMO to the knee, and probably

a few other spots as well. Basically, my knee had been damaged by

running with the mal-aligned pelvis. After the pelvis was realigned,

the knee was repaired with prolotherapy.

I am certain that it not only sped up my recovery, but that I would

not have recovered without it.

I also recently developed shin splints (this time in my other leg)

from increasing my running mileage a little too fast (training for

the NY Marathon). I went back to the same place and got two rounds

of prolotherapy injections into the painful area along the shin

bone. I've since resumed my long runs without any problems. Pretty

cool, eh?

Anyway, I believe that prolotherapy can be very beneficial for anyone

with chronic joint pain, whether or not it is supposedly caused by

damaged cartilage. As we say here, damaged cartilage (CP) is

a " symptom " , not a " disease " . The key to getting better is

discovering the underlying cause of your problem, and fixing it. Of

course, this is much easier said than done.

I went to these guys in Danbury, CT:

http://www.imaginelifewithoutpain.com

Sadly, the first doc I saw, Dr. Cohen, passed away a few months ago.

When I went there last month, I saw Dr. Perretz and he was also very

caring, skilled and knowledgeable.

If you need to find someone near you, try:

http://www.getprolo.com

You may also have some luck at

http://www.aaomed.org

The negatives with prolotherapy are that it sometimes isn't covered

by insurance (or you have to go to an " out of network " doctor), it

can take a few months to feel results, and it can be painful (both

the injections themselves and the soreness that follows).

Hope that helps,

Doug

dougfromct2002@...

> Doug:

> Have you had prolotherapy already? If so, where did

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Hi Ann:

It has definitely been used for that. You can Google up plenty of

info. Here are a few I found with a quick search:

http://www.prolotherapy.com/articles/frost.htm

http://www.prolonews.com/hip_groin_pain_prolotherapy.htm

The hard part, as I've said, is finding a talented guy or gal near

you.

Good luck,

Doug

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loose, if prolotherapy might work there. Do you know whether it's

been used for that?

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> Ann

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But to add to my own post: DonTigny (a PT who specializes in

the SI joint) says that only particular ligaments (not most of the

ligaments and not the joint itself) should be proloed and only after

the SI joint is corrected. So if you're considering this, see his

recommendations on www.kalindra.com and the sacroiliac joint Delphi

forum first. Apparently if you prolo the wrong ligaments or if the SI

joint isn't corrected first you can only mess things up more.

I don't know how true this is, but DonTigny knows more about

the SI joint then most so I'd take his advice seriously until I had a

good reason to think otherwise about this.

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[Guest guest]

No kidding! I had some slight familiarity with it but only because my

girlfriend had an episode of back pain and I was trying to get to the

bottom of that. All I ever learned back then was that it was some

weird joint (that maybe wasn't a joint) and that is caused back pain

(or maybe not).

Anway, it may be something you have, check out the " Manual Therapy

Rounds " and the FAQ on the Sacroiliac Resources page on

www.kalindra.com . Doesn't cost much or even take much time to see if

the corrective exercises and stretchs in the " Manual Therapy Rounds "

have any effect and it's hard for me to imagine them doing any harm

(whether or not you have SIJD) to anyone with common sense.

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