Re: IAGH Update REQUEST...

[Guest guest]

I'm also very interested in this, and those are excellent scientific questions.

I asked my OS about it and he said he didn't know anything about it and anyway

it was really expensive. My response to " it's really expensive " is SO WHAT?

But if HGH will help regenerate damaged articular cartilage, we should be

pressuring our docs to use it.

I hope those of you who had the procedure done will respond to Steve's poll.

Ann

IAGH Update REQUEST...

Hi folks,

It's a while since I've looked into the group (guess what my symptoms

have got worse since!).

I'm wondering if we could have an update on the progress of our growth

hormone guinea pigs ;-) ?

In particular I'm interested in the LONG TERM effects of this

treatment.

One particular aspect of Dr Dunns treatment is he likes to do a

debridement of the joint i.e. surgery before giving treatment. In

many cases this treatment alone CAN give relief for up to two years.

So in order to gauge the real effectiveness of the IAGH we need to

look long term at people beyond the two year mark...

So if you've had this treatment could we have an update please?

If poss with the following info....

1) Short description of original complaint.

2) What surgery (and when)?

3) How much IAGH?

4) When did you have the IAGH.

5) How are you now?

Sorry if this is a lot of questions just trying to get an accurate

picture, coz at the moment it's my only long term hope!

Cheers

Steve

[Guest guest]

hello,

i had IAGH almost 2 years ago and my knee is doing quite well. i had

gr 4 defects in the MFC. i had a debridement surgery, 6 injections in

3 weeks and was non weight bearing for 7 weeks. now i feel preety

good. i do have some pain but i beleive that it is fat pad pain from

the 6 surgeries that my knee has suffered. i can hike and swim and

bike.

rob wilson

> I'm also very interested in this, and those are excellent

scientific questions. I asked my OS about it and he said he didn't

know anything about it and anyway it was really expensive. My

response to " it's really expensive " is SO WHAT? But if HGH will help

regenerate damaged articular cartilage, we should be pressuring our

docs to use it.

>

> I hope those of you who had the procedure done will respond to

Steve's poll.

>

> Ann

> IAGH Update REQUEST...

>

>

> Hi folks,

>

> It's a while since I've looked into the group (guess what my

symptoms

> have got worse since!).

>

> I'm wondering if we could have an update on the progress of our

growth

> hormone guinea pigs ;-) ?

>

> In particular I'm interested in the LONG TERM effects of this

> treatment.

>

> One particular aspect of Dr Dunns treatment is he likes to do a

> debridement of the joint i.e. surgery before giving treatment. In

> many cases this treatment alone CAN give relief for up to two

years.

> So in order to gauge the real effectiveness of the IAGH we need

to

> look long term at people beyond the two year mark...

>

> So if you've had this treatment could we have an update please?

> If poss with the following info....

> 1) Short description of original complaint.

> 2) What surgery (and when)?

> 3) How much IAGH?

> 4) When did you have the IAGH.

> 5) How are you now?

>

> Sorry if this is a lot of questions just trying to get an

accurate

> picture, coz at the moment it's my only long term hope!

>

> Cheers

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for answering about your IAGH experience.

I'm surprised that you had to be non-weight-bearing for 7 weeks. Is it so the

chondromalacia area can use the effects of the HGH w/o any contact?

And fat pad pain???? Great!! It wasn't bad enough that we had CP or ITBS or

patellar tendinitis -- now we have fat pad pain???? Agggghhhhhhhh!!!!!! (8-)

Do you think it's caused by scarring where the instruments went through?

Ann

hello,

i had IAGH almost 2 years ago and my knee is doing quite well. i had

gr 4 defects in the MFC. i had a debridement surgery, 6 injections in

3 weeks and was non weight bearing for 7 weeks. now i feel preety

good. i do have some pain but i beleive that it is fat pad pain from

the 6 surgeries that my knee has suffered. i can hike and swim and

bike.

rob wilson

> I'm also very interested in this, and those are excellent

scientific questions. I asked my OS about it and he said he didn't

know anything about it and anyway it was really expensive. My

response to " it's really expensive " is SO WHAT? But if HGH will help

regenerate damaged articular cartilage, we should be pressuring our

docs to use it.

>

> I hope those of you who had the procedure done will respond to

Steve's poll.

>

> Ann

> IAGH Update REQUEST...

>

>

> Hi folks,

>

> It's a while since I've looked into the group (guess what my

symptoms

> have got worse since!).

>

> I'm wondering if we could have an update on the progress of our

growth

> hormone guinea pigs ;-) ?

>

> In particular I'm interested in the LONG TERM effects of this

> treatment.

>

> One particular aspect of Dr Dunns treatment is he likes to do a

> debridement of the joint i.e. surgery before giving treatment. In

> many cases this treatment alone CAN give relief for up to two

years.

> So in order to gauge the real effectiveness of the IAGH we need

to

> look long term at people beyond the two year mark...

>

> So if you've had this treatment could we have an update please?

> If poss with the following info....

> 1) Short description of original complaint.

> 2) What surgery (and when)?

> 3) How much IAGH?

> 4) When did you have the IAGH.

> 5) How are you now?

>

> Sorry if this is a lot of questions just trying to get an

accurate

> picture, coz at the moment it's my only long term hope!

>

> Cheers

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had IAGH too.

Q) Short description of original complaint.

A)Long story short...I tore my ACL in high school football. I didn't have

surgery. Fast forward 15 years during a half iron man I had some popping

and a bit of pain...it actually wasn't that bad. Over the years though'

I've had some pretty good incidents with my knee, skiing, mtn biking etc.

Long distance races never seemed to produce pain although I'm sure they

played a part in the damage to my knee.

Q) What surgery (and when)?

A)I did have had surgery, it was in January of 2002 a few months after the

above incident. This was not directly related to the IAGH, I had

completely healed from surgery. I had the 'injury' and went for IAGH

subsequent to the findings in the surgery. I've got the pictures, they're

not pretty. The surgery was done in Boston, not by Dunn. Surgery consisted

of a partial medial menistectomy, and debridement/chondroplasty to a full

thickness lesion on my medial condyle. The ACL was not replaced, the stump

had calcified and was removed. I still do not have an ACL in my right leg.

Q) How much IAGH?

A) I stayed in Miami for 2 weeks and had 4 shots.

Q) When did you have the IAGH.

A)August-September, 2002.

Q) How are you now?

A)I'm pretty good. I can do pretty much anything I want. I'm not logging

80 miles per week any more, but I can run. I bike more now than I used

to.....as long as I'm out there though. That being said, I still get pain

and my knee doesn't feel totally right. It has not for a while though, and

I am admittedly pretty rambunctious.

Overall I think IAGH is a valid option to at least explore. It worked out

pretty well for me, and I did notice some improvement. I've not had any

subsequent objective evidence other than the x-rays in Dunn's office.

Good luck,

Chuck

IAGH Update REQUEST...

> Hi folks,

>

> It's a while since I've looked into the group (guess what my symptoms

> have got worse since!).

>

> I'm wondering if we could have an update on the progress of our growth

> hormone guinea pigs ;-) ?

>

> In particular I'm interested in the LONG TERM effects of this

> treatment.

>

> One particular aspect of Dr Dunns treatment is he likes to do a

> debridement of the joint i.e. surgery before giving treatment. In

> many cases this treatment alone CAN give relief for up to two years.

> So in order to gauge the real effectiveness of the IAGH we need to

> look long term at people beyond the two year mark...

>

> So if you've had this treatment could we have an update please?

> If poss with the following info....

> 1) Short description of original complaint.

> 2) What surgery (and when)?

> 3) How much IAGH?

> 4) When did you have the IAGH.

> 5) How are you now?

>

> Sorry if this is a lot of questions just trying to get an accurate

> picture, coz at the moment it's my only long term hope!

>

> Cheers

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes the fat pad pain msut be from all the surgeries. on the iagh it

is better to be cautious becuase it certainly seems to work if you

are.

> > I'm also very interested in this, and those are excellent

> scientific questions. I asked my OS about it and he said he

didn't

> know anything about it and anyway it was really expensive. My

> response to " it's really expensive " is SO WHAT? But if HGH will

help

> regenerate damaged articular cartilage, we should be pressuring

our

> docs to use it.

> >

> > I hope those of you who had the procedure done will respond to

> Steve's poll.

> >

> > Ann

> > IAGH Update REQUEST...

> >

> >

> > Hi folks,

> >

> > It's a while since I've looked into the group (guess what my

> symptoms

> > have got worse since!).

> >

> > I'm wondering if we could have an update on the progress of

our

> growth

> > hormone guinea pigs ;-) ?

> >

> > In particular I'm interested in the LONG TERM effects of this

> > treatment.

> >

> > One particular aspect of Dr Dunns treatment is he likes to do

a

> > debridement of the joint i.e. surgery before giving

treatment. In

> > many cases this treatment alone CAN give relief for up to two

> years.

> > So in order to gauge the real effectiveness of the IAGH we

need

> to

> > look long term at people beyond the two year mark...

> >

> > So if you've had this treatment could we have an update

please?

> > If poss with the following info....

> > 1) Short description of original complaint.

> > 2) What surgery (and when)?

> > 3) How much IAGH?

> > 4) When did you have the IAGH.

> > 5) How are you now?

> >

> > Sorry if this is a lot of questions just trying to get an

> accurate

> > picture, coz at the moment it's my only long term hope!

> >

> > Cheers

> >

> > Steve

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >