Diabetes

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Me too, please. Obie.

Re: Fw: diabetes

>

> In a message dated 5/30/01 4:40:13 PM, ruthful@... writes:

>

> << Solution To Sugar Problems Found Written On Dried Palm Leaf In Ancient

> Sanskrit! >>

>

> I had a little problem finding the name of this product but finally

figured it

> is called Anti-Betic (it's not mentioned till the end of the article).

Saul

> Says Gymnema Sylvestre is effective and the article mentions it many

times,

> but Not as one of the ingredients of Anti-Betic...I assume it is one, or

is

> all

> of them, or something. I am really interested in this -- wish the article

was

> a little clearer.. would be interested in any further material on this.

> dorothy

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[Guest guest]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

RYAN!!!!!!!!!

Diabetes

> HI Everyone:

>

> I'm trying to compile a brief educational tool for my fellow

> dietitians and diabetes educators regarding support for people with

> Down syndrome who have diabetes.

>

> If your child (any age) has diabetes and you would like to assist me,

> please email me at:

>

> foodlady@...

>

> Some of my questions include:

> --what were the symptoms you saw in your child?

> --what kind of support has been the most helpful to you and to your

> child?

> --given the opportunity what would you say to a group of

> professionals who are supposed to be helping families like yours?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Joan E. Guthrie Medlen, R.D., L.D.

> Mom to (15 this saturday!) and Andy (12 1/2 DS/asd)

>

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At 09:24 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote:

>HAPPY BIRTHDAY

>RYAN!!!!!!!!!

and he wants to DRIVE! ACK!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

My 17 year old has NO desire to drive. I don't get it!!!!

Re: Diabetes

> At 09:24 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote:

> >HAPPY BIRTHDAY

> >RYAN!!!!!!!!!

>

>

>

> and he wants to DRIVE! ACK!!!!!!!!!!

>

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At 09:44 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote:

>My 17 year old has NO desire to drive. I don't get it!!!!

I'll TRADE you!!!

signed,

neurotic in OR

[Guest guest]

well happy birthday ryan!!!! doesnt have diabetes but its a very neat

thing your doing, i often question weather he has it or not, he is sooooo

thristy all the time, but we cant go by the polyuria, he retains it for

hours unless we make him go, somedays though he will have several incidents

of wetting usually in a row, he usually just changes his clothes and carries

on. and the hungry issue, dont get me started there,(LONG) Often he is

" huuungy mom " saying it and signing it simutaneously, he does better when i

make him eat his supper of REAL food. We finally got him to eat with little

to no gagging and actually chewing his food...he kept refusing his food,

then would try to swallow whole and the tips the dietitian gave didnt work

and didnt work, so finally, since the rewards didnt work either we decided

to punish him, we gave him few minutes to start eating on his own with great

encouragement as usual, then said he he doesnt eat he can go to bed, he

refused to eat as usual, even when i tried to feed him so we sent him to bed

for about 5-10minutes wasnt real long and I went and checked on him and he

was crying and mentioning " games " (as usual anything besides the subject at

hand) and I said " well are you ready to eat? " he said " ya " and I remeinded

him he can eat then play games, so he rushed down stairs and he ate chewing

each bite slowly as i helped show him how to chew, he has continued this

same routine all week, im hoping soon he will forgo the sent to room stuff,

and just eat like a big boy, I only give him a table spoon of each item and

then he gets a bite of PB sandwich after each bite(reward food)so there is

no reason for him not to eat the good healthy food, and I remeind him often

he just ate when he keeps insisting he is hungry, but UIHC keeps insisting

this is normal for ds, and he isnt diabetic, when they've never even done a

bloodsugar, i should barrow some of grandpas and just see. hmmmm. shawna.

> Diabetes

>

>

> HI Everyone:

>

> I'm trying to compile a brief educational tool for my fellow

> dietitians and diabetes educators regarding support for people with

> Down syndrome who have diabetes.

>

> If your child (any age) has diabetes and you would like to assist me,

> please email me at:

>

> foodlady@...

>

> Some of my questions include:

> --what were the symptoms you saw in your child?

> --what kind of support has been the most helpful to you and to your

> child?

> --given the opportunity what would you say to a group of

> professionals who are supposed to be helping families like yours?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Joan E. Guthrie Medlen, R.D., L.D.

> Mom to (15 this saturday!) and Andy (12 1/2 DS/asd)

>

>

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> photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/20/2001 8:33:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

greenpak@... writes:

> Often he is

> " huuungy mom " saying it and signing it simutaneously, he does better when i

> make him eat his supper of REAL food. We finally got him to eat with little

> to no gagging and actually chewing his food...he kept refusing his food,

> then would try to swallow whole and the tips the dietitian gave didnt work

> and didnt work, so finally, since the rewards didnt work either we decided

> to punish him, we gave him few minutes to start eating on his own with great

> encouragement as usual, then said he he doesnt eat he can go to bed, he

>

Ray went through a period of rapid growing, eating tons about 15 then

it just stopped and now we have to fight to get him to eat and he loses

weight from time to time. Peggy

[Guest guest]

I understand those aspects, and I think nathan may be going through a grwoth

spurt lately, he is always hungry, but he insists on the same old junk of

hotdogs or pizza or grilled cheese, and its not fair for nicholas to have to

eat what everyone else eats, and not nathan. And our supper time is probably

the best and most nurticious meal that we sit together visit and eat thats

why we want nathan to at the least eat one table spoon of each thing--and

there is usually only 3-4 items, plus he needs to work on his chewing and

swallowing skills.And everything we have tried in the past has failed, this

just happen to work, i have changed it a little though, instead of his room

he has to sit on the stairs, and it works just fine, after a few minutes he

comes back and eats very well, even chews his food pretty good, little

gagging.And nathan still gets his reward of choice after eating.

shawna

>From: Peggylou46@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Diabetes

>Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:42:03 EDT

>

>In a message dated 7/20/2001 8:33:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>greenpak@... writes:

>

>

> > Often he is

> > " huuungy mom " saying it and signing it simutaneously, he does better

>when i

> > make him eat his supper of REAL food. We finally got him to eat with

>little

> > to no gagging and actually chewing his food...he kept refusing his food,

> > then would try to swallow whole and the tips the dietitian gave didnt

>work

> > and didnt work, so finally, since the rewards didnt work either we

>decided

> > to punish him, we gave him few minutes to start eating on his own with

>great

> > encouragement as usual, then said he he doesnt eat he can go to bed, he

> >

>

> Ray went through a period of rapid growing, eating tons about 15 then

>it just stopped and now we have to fight to get him to eat and he loses

>weight from time to time. Peggy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ikle wrote: I am not an expert in diabetes but I understand

that Type 1 (which now has a subtype of slow onset, called Type 1.5)

is an autoimmune disorder . . .

**** I'm no expert on the subject either. Does anyone on the list

know more about this subtype? When thinking of youngsters I know

who were diagnosed with diabetes, two of my former neighbors

(brothers) were about 6 or 7 at the time it was discovered. My

neice was 16 when her (what seemed like) rather sudden

symptomatology caused my brother to haul her to the doctor. One

wonders if her diabetes was present for years before that only no

one knew it. I don't ever remember being given any tests for

diabetes as a kid. Is it standard procedure now?

In looking back on the elder of the two neighbor boys, there was

certainly some symptomotology there although it manifested itself in

ways that diabetes would have been a difficult diagnosis, or at

least by someone who didn't know what to look for. The biggest

change those of us who knew him noticed immediately was in

personality. He seemed to be geting crankier with age, demanding

his father's attention, and when not getting it, throwing a tantrum

of sorts. We all chalked it up to sibling rivalry. But this was

not the case. When he was finally diagnosed and started on insulin,

he turned into the sweetest kid you could imagine. He is now a very

handsome, well educated and polite young man.

My neice never had other than her (what the family called)

" buzzette " personality. She suddenly felt lousy, couldn't get

enough to drink and was eating like a horse. But until that time

there were no apparent clues that something was amiss.

My questions would be that if the diabetes is slower in onset is it

easier to manage, i.e. not as severe? My neice seems to have little

problem controlling hers although maybe this is due to the fact that

she is a young adult.

Rosemary Wedderburn-Vernon

Marina del Rey, CA

IronRoses@...

http://home.earthlink.net/~chuckietechie

[Guest guest]

Ikle wrote: I am not an expert in diabetes but I understand

that Type 1 (which now has a subtype of slow onset, called Type 1.5)

is an autoimmune disorder . . .

**** I'm no expert on the subject either. Does anyone on the list

know more about this subtype? When thinking of youngsters I know

who were diagnosed with diabetes, two of my former neighbors

(brothers) were about 6 or 7 at the time it was discovered. My

neice was 16 when her (what seemed like) rather sudden

symptomatology caused my brother to haul her to the doctor. One

wonders if her diabetes was present for years before that only no

one knew it. I don't ever remember being given any tests for

diabetes as a kid. Is it standard procedure now?

In looking back on the elder of the two neighbor boys, there was

certainly some symptomotology there although it manifested itself in

ways that diabetes would have been a difficult diagnosis, or at

least by someone who didn't know what to look for. The biggest

change those of us who knew him noticed immediately was in

personality. He seemed to be geting crankier with age, demanding

his father's attention, and when not getting it, throwing a tantrum

of sorts. We all chalked it up to sibling rivalry. But this was

not the case. When he was finally diagnosed and started on insulin,

he turned into the sweetest kid you could imagine. He is now a very

handsome, well educated and polite young man.

My neice never had other than her (what the family called)

" buzzette " personality. She suddenly felt lousy, couldn't get

enough to drink and was eating like a horse. But until that time

there were no apparent clues that something was amiss.

My questions would be that if the diabetes is slower in onset is it

easier to manage, i.e. not as severe? My neice seems to have little

problem controlling hers although maybe this is due to the fact that

she is a young adult.

Rosemary Wedderburn-Vernon

Marina del Rey, CA

IronRoses@...

http://home.earthlink.net/~chuckietechie

[Guest guest]

Dot, I haven't heard of Stills actually causing diabetes or medications but I am not a doctor. Have you gotten diabetes? I hope not, but if so let us know. I know I have other medical issues over the years and often wonder if medications might be the cause. Hope your day is well, Melt

----- Original Message -----

From: dorothy galletta

I was just courious, has anyone developed diabetes from stills or maybe from taking Prednisone?

Dot (CA)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/01/2003 9:39:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, elizabethgalletta@... writes:

Yes, I just got diagnosed last April

I was diagnosed about 2 years ago, I control mine so far with diet and exercise. I am not on prednisone, so it is just my body and endocrine problems....

Beth

[Guest guest]

Yes, after many years on prednisone and a large weight gain. I am

losing some weight and the diabetes is under much better control, Louise.

dorothy galletta wrote:

> Hi All....

>

> I was just courious, has anyone developed diabetes from stills or

> maybe from taking Prednisone?

>

> Dot (CA)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, after many years on prednisone and a large weight gain. I am

losing some weight and the diabetes is under much better control, Louise.

dorothy galletta wrote:

> Hi All....

>

> I was just courious, has anyone developed diabetes from stills or

> maybe from taking Prednisone?

>

> Dot (CA)

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

She is actually bringing it to my house, and I am going to type in

the information, the links, the book names, the articles, etc, and

will give it to anyone who wants it, including you!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

> In a message dated 11/16/04 9:00:13 PM Central Standard Time,

> Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes:

>

> > a horrid person for the rest of the day and sometimes the next!!!)

> >

> > Again, P is going to get all the info together today and tomarrow

and

> > I am hoping to pass it on to you then!!!

>

> Rabecca

>

> Is this something your friend P is sending to you online?

> Can I have this also, if this is sent online? I would love that.

> If that is possible, I would like to read up in this area. Thanks

much.

> hugs

> in IL

[Guest guest]

anne,

You might want to try adding about 1/2 t of cinnamon. Sprinkle it on

cereal, or whatever...make a tea.

Take care,

Jane

----- Original Message -----

I was diagnosed in 2000 with Type 2. Since then I've shed over

22kg (more than 45lbs). I have never, EVER been able to get my bg's

in the " normal " range despite diet, exercise, meds, insulin. I'm

happy if I can keep my #'s under 180. I know it's not as 'tight' as

it should be but I'm not going to let this damned disease rule my

life! I control what I put in my mouth but my body doesn't behave

when it comes to bg's!

anne

[Guest guest]

Ordinary, everyday, off the shelf cinnamon? This is one I haven't tried.

anne

Re: Re: diabetes

anne,

You might want to try adding about 1/2 t of cinnamon. Sprinkle it on

cereal, or whatever...make a tea.

Take care,

Jane

----- Original Message -----

I was diagnosed in 2000 with Type 2.

[Guest guest]

anne,

Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for

you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask

her.

I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes,

and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never

tried it.

Hope I can fill you in soon!

Take care,

Jane

Re: Re: diabetes

anne,

You might want to try adding about 1/2 t of cinnamon. Sprinkle

it on

cereal, or whatever...make a tea.

Take care,

Jane

----- Original Message -----

I was diagnosed in 2000 with Type 2.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Jane!

anne

Re: Re: diabetes

anne,

Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for

you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask

her.

I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes,

and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never

tried it.

Hope I can fill you in soon!

Take care,

Jane

[Guest guest]

I think that she might have something there anne. I don't know it for

certain. But I have a family history of diabetes. Father and Sister both type 2.

Me, nadda. In fact my blood sugars are in the low normal range. Even during

treatment. I have all the risk factors against me. Overweight, treatment,family

history etc.

But I never thought of it. I am a cinnamon nut. I eat cinnamon toast alot. Eat

it on my oatmeal, I eat oatmeal for breakfast most every morning. Cause it is

easy!!

Cinnamon in my coffee, takes the bitterness out. And it taste good. And my

daughter likes warm milk before bed. So I join her in a cup with cinnamon.

Hmmmmm it is a thought.

Love

Janet

anne <kanga2@...> wrote:

Thank you Jane!

anne

Re: Re: diabetes

anne,

Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for

you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask

her.

I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes,

and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never

tried it.

Hope I can fill you in soon!

Take care,

Jane

[Guest guest]

I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have

the energy to go hunting through the posts.

What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a

friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would

love to pass this information on to him.

Thanks,

> Thank you Jane!

>

> anne

> Re: Re: diabetes

>

>

> anne,

>

> Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for

> you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask

> her.

>

> I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes,

> and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never

> tried it.

>

> Hope I can fill you in soon!

>

> Take care,

> Jane

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a little something I just found its not indepth but it does give ya an

ideal of why its beneficial for diabetes

Recent studies show that consuming Cinnamon each day may reduce blood sugar,

cholesterol, and triglyceride levels by as much as 20% in Type II diabetes

moondancerx1 <moondancerx1@...> wrote:

I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have

the energy to go hunting through the posts.

What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a

friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would

love to pass this information on to him.

Thanks,

> Thank you Jane!

>

> anne

> Re: Re: diabetes

>

>

> anne,

>

> Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for

> you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask

> her.

>

> I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes,

> and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never

> tried it.

>

> Hope I can fill you in soon!

>

> Take care,

> Jane

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It's a good thing you didn't go searching, because I don't have the

specific info yet! lol I need to check with the woman who told me

about it last week for specifics, and will post them in a day or two.

Take care,

Jane

Duh! I don't even know who I am! When I first put the name after

" Take care, " I signed it " " Anyone need some extra air? I

have plenty in my head!

Re: diabetes

I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't

have

the energy to go hunting through the posts.

What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have

a

friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and

would

love to pass this information on to him.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Several studies have shown that cinnamon, up to a gram a day, can, that's

CAN, have a blood sugar lowering effect. It doesn't work for everyone, but

for some it works very well. It has a minor to moderate effect for me. Some

people go to the extent of finding empty gelatin capsules and stuffing them

with cinnamon off the shelf. If you are going to do that, use the bulk

cinnamon. The studies also showed it didn't matter at all what kind of

cinnamon, just any table cinnamon will do.

Sally

Re: diabetes

I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have the

energy to go hunting through the posts.

What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a friend

who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would love to pass

this information on to him.

Thanks,

> Thank you Jane!

>

> anne

> Re: Re: diabetes

>

>

> anne,

>

> Yes...off the shelf cinnamon. I'll try to find out more details for

> you. A woman told me about it at the end of last week, and I'll ask

> her.

>

> I was at a candle party, and I was talking to someone with diabetes,

> and told her about the cinnamon. She'd heard about it, but never

> tried it.

>

> Hope I can fill you in soon!

>

> Take care,

> Jane

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here are some citations from PubMed.

Isolation and characterization of polyphenol type-A polymers from cinnamon

with insulin-like biological activity.

http://tinyurl.com/7dcrj

Cinnamon improves glucose and lipids of people with type 2 diabetes.

http://tinyurl.com/a7dxg (full text of this one is available free online)

Insulin-like biological activity of culinary and medicinal plant aqueous

extracts in vitro.

http://tinyurl.com/bohvr

This one says cinnamon is most effective of the substances tested, followed

by witch hazel, green and black teas, allspice, bay leaves, nutmeg, cloves,

mushrooms, and brewer's yeast. I use cinnamon and green and white teas.

Mushrooms when I can afford them. Others, such as ginseng and flax seed meal

were found to be minimally effective.

The evaluation of long-term effects of cinnamon bark and olive leaf on

toxicity induced by streptozotocin administration to rats.

http://tinyurl.com/cztlu

Regulation of PTP-1 and insulin receptor kinase by fractions from cinnamon:

implications for cinnamon regulation of insulin signalling.

http://tinyurl.com/dmc8n

And to stay on topic,

Hepatitis C virus infection can present with metabolic disease by inducing

insulin resistance.

http://tinyurl.com/dcqah

Extrahepatic manifestations and insulin resistance in an HCV hyperendemic

area.

http://tinyurl.com/bm8od

Late development of diabetes mellitus after interferon-alfa and ribavirin

therapy for chronic hepatitis C: a case report.

http://tinyurl.com/93fc7

Hyperglycemia among persons with hepatitis C: Not the classical diabetic

phenotype.

http://tinyurl.com/bslc6

Causal relationship between hepatitis C virus core and the development of

type 2 diabetes mellitus in a hepatitis C virus hyperendemic area: a pilot

study.

http://tinyurl.com/7na24

Factors associated with the presence of nonalcoholic steatohepatitis in

patients with chronic hepatitis C.

http://tinyurl.com/bkydy

Diabetes increases the risk of hepatocellular carcinoma in the United

States: a population based case control study.

http://tinyurl.com/837vt

Hepatitis C virus infection can present with metabolic disease by inducing

insulin resistance.

http://tinyurl.com/ay28p

Insulin resistance plays a significant role in liver fibrosis in chronic

hepatitis C and in the response to antiviral therapy.

http://tinyurl.com/c7zds

For starters.

Sal

Re: Re: diabetes

Hi ,

It's a good thing you didn't go searching, because I don't have the specific

info yet! lol I need to check with the woman who told me about it last week

for specifics, and will post them in a day or two.

Take care,

Jane

Duh! I don't even know who I am! When I first put the name after " Take

care, " I signed it " " Anyone need some extra air? I have plenty in

my head!

Re: diabetes

I think I missed the original posting about cinnamon, and don't have

the energy to go hunting through the posts.

What is the benefit of using cinnamon if you have diabetes? I have a

friend who was recently dx with beginning Type 2 diabetes, and would

love to pass this information on to him.

Thanks,