Guest guest Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 The people here know exactly what you're going through & are wonderfully, knowledgeable, helpful & supportive. On 27 August 2011 13:39, whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...> wrote: Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. -- I keep six honest serving-men (They taught me all I knew); Their names are What and Why and When And How and Where and Who. Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 , It is so understandable that you would be discouraged. I'm glad your mom does not think you are crazy. It helps so much to know others who have been through it can be there for us. I don't think God punishes in the way you describe, however. Just my point of view. Freezer does not kill mites. We tried it so many times... heat does. If you can safely put a few things in the oven at 150 degrees that will kill them or iron what you can. It also kills mold, viruses, bacteria. L.From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:39:14 AMSubject: I thank God for this group Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 I put my iron in the shed and just about everything in the shed got re-infested after I used sulfur. I had a bad experience with sulfur b/c after I put it in a couple of places - in front of my LR windows on the outside, the next day one of my neighbors called the police. The police wanted to look inside and could not believe that I had pulled out all of my carpet and thrown away my bed, etc. They brought out HazMet to check the air in here and then made me leave b/c they said it was too toxic for me to stay, so one nice policeman took me to my mother's house. But almost as bad as that was the fact that when I used sulfur it made the mites jump from one place to another. I put a bag of sulfur in my shed and then they jumped into all the stuff I have in there - supplies, etc. I have draperies, coats, clothes, books, etc. in there. I don't know but will probably be throwing it out too. But if I can, will try to get an iron. I had to throw the cover off my ironing board as it was infested too. > > , > > > It is so understandable that you would be discouraged. I'm glad your mom does not think you are crazy. It helps so much to know others who have been through it can be there for us. I don't think God punishes in the way you describe, however. Just my point of view. Freezer does not kill mites. We tried it so many times... heat does. If you can safely put a few things in the oven at 150 degrees that will kill them or iron what you can. It also kills mold, viruses, bacteria. > > > L. > > I thank God for this group > > > > > > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 I had to throw iron and ironing board and cover away. They infested that and when ironing the mites would fall off and bite my feet. It was hideous. So many things thrown away. I know what you mean about pushing the mites to another area. Our area of initial infestation was our downstairs, but upon treatment they worked their way upstairs where we put our airbed for a year. They just follow you and can get pushed to other areas. It was pretty bad. Because we live in a townhouse that is semi-attached to 2 other houses we could not do tenting which might have saved our things if they used the right poisons... I think Tim or someone said this is the best method to get rid of mites throughout the entire house. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:31:24 PMSubject: Re: I thank God for this group I put my iron in the shed and just about everything in the shed got re-infested after I used sulfur. I had a bad experience with sulfur b/c after I put it in a couple of places - in front of my LR windows on the outside, the next day one of my neighbors called the police. The police wanted to look inside and could not believe that I had pulled out all of my carpet and thrown away my bed, etc. They brought out HazMet to check the air in here and then made me leave b/c they said it was too toxic for me to stay, so one nice policeman took me to my mother's house. But almost as bad as that was the fact that when I used sulfur it made the mites jump from one place to another. I put a bag of sulfur in my shed and then they jumped into all the stuff I have in there - supplies, etc. I have draperies, coats, clothes, books, etc. in there. I don't know but will probably be throwing it out too. But if I can, will try to get an iron. I had to throw the cover off my ironing board as it was infested too. > > , > > > It is so understandable that you would be discouraged. I'm glad your mom does not think you are crazy. It helps so much to know others who have been through it can be there for us. I don't think God punishes in the way you describe, however. Just my point of view. Freezer does not kill mites. We tried it so many times... heat does. If you can safely put a few things in the oven at 150 degrees that will kill them or iron what you can. It also kills mold, viruses, bacteria. > > > L. > > I thank God for this group > > > > > > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hi, !I Feel for you and have had the same situation, but am much better after moving! Keep fighting and you are not crazy (even if we feel that way fighting the mites).Take care!CeciliaFrom: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:39 PMSubject: I thank God for this group Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hi - hang in there. I promise things will get better eventually. Maybe not perfect but you learn what works/doesn't over time. One suggestion I have to add to the great advice you have already received is to order KleenFree for your laundry. I don't typically recommend/endorse name brand stuff as we have all spent so much time, money and effort on fighting these bugs. But, our clothing was so bad it used to " bite " within seconds of putting it on - the iron helped but I feel like KleenFree really put us over the edge in terms of making things at least wearable. Some folks didn't have luck with it but over the long term it was one of the best investments we made. Another thing - try to get crocs for shoes as you can wash them in your dishwasher. Be sure to disinfect your combs/brushes after each use. Another thing to try that I discovered through trial and error was Off Botanicals bug lotion - it kept the biters away from me. It is made from eucal. tree. I am so sorry you are going through this. We are here for you. Just keep fighting. And, no, you are not crazy. I stayed at my Mom's last year when I was heavily infected. I can walk into her place today and my skin literally starts to tingle within seconds. She feels nothing and has no symptoms what so ever. Best - southern bug mom/zen morgie > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 oh teresa, i am where you are on many things. one day i am praying and feeling comforted then an hour later cursing god. i had to change the thought of punishment for i have done some horrible things, but it's not what he does. please hang in there. why us small group of people have been affected i will never know. they are in my mother's home also,but she has zero symptoms. one of her dogs got under my house one day and got them. it kinda helped me figure out where they came from, since after that some dead rodent smell came from under the house. it's been a little over 3 months for me. it's weird 1 of my moms dogs and one of mine are like us, very allergic. i want to cry every time i see him scratch. the shorts i am wearing soaked for over 24 hours, borax, arm and hammer, ammonia, stored with moth balls the minute i put them on i get chomped on. i get a terrible rash that spreads through the day. i am going to break my anonymity, but i just celebrated 4 years of sobriety and this has been the closest i have wanted to drink. even at times i get angry with god i continue to praise him and comfort me through these times...and it works until i take the control back. i listen to a lot of music and keep good thoughts while cleaning. i clean houses for a living so it's like working 24/7. my boyfriend stays over all the time and has never had one bite. but his house and truck make me very itchy. this is the weirdest situation i have ever experienced and one of the worst. because of these people on here and you i will continue to hang on and fight this. i know it's not getting worse so that's a good thing. i might take a solo trip to the beach or something to get cleansed spiritually and mentally. feel free to vent to me anytime. my new purses are plastic grocery bags so i can dispose of them. acceptance is the answer to all my problems today! much love, alaire > > > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Very well said and a huge congrats on your sobriety! I have quite a few friends who are recovering addicts or AA's because the meditation center I go to there are a lot of 12 steppers there. I used to go to CoDA - but haven't for some time. It seems everyone is recovering from something these days and everyone has issues they are dealing with. Almost everyone seems to have a parent that was an alcoholic any more, not to minimize what you have gone through, but just to offer some support. I do believe in the idea of getting right with God... one day at a time and in God's time, not ours thy will be done. <3 From: "alaire73" <alaire_fetters@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 2:53:29 PMSubject: Re: I thank God for this group oh teresa, i am where you are on many things. one day i am praying and feeling comforted then an hour later cursing god. i had to change the thought of punishment for i have done some horrible things, but it's not what he does. please hang in there. why us small group of people have been affected i will never know. they are in my mother's home also,but she has zero symptoms. one of her dogs got under my house one day and got them. it kinda helped me figure out where they came from, since after that some dead rodent smell came from under the house. it's been a little over 3 months for me. it's weird 1 of my moms dogs and one of mine are like us, very allergic. i want to cry every time i see him scratch. the shorts i am wearing soaked for over 24 hours, borax, arm and hammer, ammonia, stored with moth balls the minute i put them on i get chomped on. i get a terrible rash that spreads through the day. i am going to break my anonymity, but i just celebrated 4 years of sobriety and this has been the closest i have wanted to drink. even at times i get angry with god i continue to praise him and comfort me through these times...and it works until i take the control back. i listen to a lot of music and keep good thoughts while cleaning. i clean houses for a living so it's like working 24/7. my boyfriend stays over all the time and has never had one bite. but his house and truck make me very itchy. this is the weirdest situation i have ever experienced and one of the worst. because of these people on here and you i will continue to hang on and fight this. i know it's not getting worse so that's a good thing. i might take a solo trip to the beach or something to get cleansed spiritually and mentally. feel free to vent to me anytime. my new purses are plastic grocery bags so i can dispose of them. acceptance is the answer to all my problems today! much love, alaire > > > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how " normal " people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > > > > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hi whatstheuseof not killing predator bugs 1. An air matress on a hard floor sprayed with 2 tbls cococnut oil & 48 oz of water makes an area bug free, spray the cielig too 2. Drenched seats & carpet in 1 cup borax , & 1 cup spic & span & 1 gal water make dead bugs instantly . 3. If you can't drench at the moment 1 box of baking soda with a pencil sized hole puffed all over theick instantly stops all bugs for 24-48 hrs , they can't walk in it & it driws the bug out , it hates alkaline burns , works miracles in the shoes or better boots , for 1 hr the dump out & oil feet & put on socks & enjoy God bless you Whatstheuse , Bill ps Details : An air materss is washable if defated & rolled up & folde 2 time & put in a 5 gal w/ 1/2 cup bucket w/ Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent & soaked for 1 hr. 1 teasp Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent per cup of water applied to the scalp kills them too , then rinse in 10-15 mins , it is painless .then apply this mix with a windex bottle 32 oz water 2 tbls borax , borax is a digestive poison 10 capsules of msm opened & emtied in tothe water from any pharmacy , msm is a penetrant , & makes the borax penetrate in to he skin Spray it into the scalp & leave it on till the next shoqer , it is painless & works wonders , be persistant Thw car will be clean if you soak the se & ts & carpet with 1 cup borax 1 cup spic and span 1 gal o water then wet vac out & set hair dryer in the car propped in a 5 gal bucket to dry it for 24 hrs with an extension cord . the bug will hatch again so itis a weekly thing . I use baking soda puffed with a hle in the box all over the car to help kill the hatchlings , it works miracles to arrest all movement instantly , it is not a total cure but stops them for sure . & it is cheap & instant . If the bug gets in my seat I pull over & spraed iot thisck on the seat & it stops instantly for days , vacums out easily , it is like carpet fresh , 'totally normal ' pss the farmers post is the best I ever saw Mites and farmer tricks link bird mites/message/10634 I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign about them. I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical. " I was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples. Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have gotten rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through grass, brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place. We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats, mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch " out. We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters. As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around longer than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing " recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for your laundry. If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties Summary : Borax$3.99 Mustard 2.00 skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet coaltar shampoo 5.99 pinesol $4.00 bleach .69 sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com baking soda $1.00 tobacco $4.00 fats .01 off a steak mud $.00 and make s paste Pretty cheap ! And they work On Sun Aug 28th, 2011 8:09 PM EDT whatstheuse2 wrote: >Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how " normal " people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > >> > > >> > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. >> > > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Certain foods do seem to make things more active at times. Grape juice has a lot of sugar in it and the breading on the chicken would feed candida too. A lot of people who have this have commented about the issue of diet. It does seem to be worse for most of us depending on the type of food we are eating. From: "whatstheuse2" <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:09:28 PMSubject: Re: I thank God for this group Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how "normal" people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > > > > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 I have had these bird mites for months and seems like nobody cares. what are we to do? i moved to a new apt, but it is slowly getting infested. I see these things everywhere, work, the grocery store, when people figure it out like we did, all hell gonna break loose. My life is so sad, cant see my kids or grandkids. From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Re: I thank God for this groupbird mites Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 7:09 PM Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how "normal" people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > >> > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Hi! had a suggestion on a steam press that I bought (threw it away as we moved) that really helped our clothes. She can probably give you contacts where you can buy it. KRCecilia From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 2:09 AMSubject: Re: I thank God for this group Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how "normal" people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > >> > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 I really feel sorry for you, having to fight this. Our got better as we moved, but we didn´t bring anything with us. Did you take all the stuff, that could be the problem.. Warm thoughts to you. Cecilia From: Marilyn Bentley <colly_miller@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 6:29 AMSubject: Re: Re: I thank God for this group I have had these bird mites for months and seems like nobody cares. what are we to do? i moved to a new apt, but it is slowly getting infested. I see these things everywhere, work, the grocery store, when people figure it out like we did, all hell gonna break loose. My life is so sad, cant see my kids or grandkids. From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Re: I thank God for this groupbird mites Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 7:09 PM Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how "normal" people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > >> > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 The people here DO care. Let us know your situation so we can lend some support to you. We've all been through it or are currently also going through it. I went through a year of not being able to see my kids or grandkids, but things do change and we do see them now. From: "Marilyn Bentley" <colly_miller@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:29:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: I thank God for this group I have had these bird mites for months and seems like nobody cares. what are we to do? i moved to a new apt, but it is slowly getting infested. I see these things everywhere, work, the grocery store, when people figure it out like we did, all hell gonna break loose. My life is so sad, cant see my kids or grandkids. From: whatstheuse2 <terelynjon@...>Subject: Re: I thank God for this groupbird mites Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 7:09 PM Thank you. I'm having a harder time today. I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how "normal" people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > >> > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I drank some grape juice earlier and I think that and the breaded chicken made the bugs on my scalp more active. Then I went shopping with mother, neices and it just seemed to get worse. So later I will wash with lice shampoo and try to kill them again. I have so many questions. I can't ask everything at once. Yes, this is one of the worst times of my life. I think b/c I see how "normal" people get to life so carefree and we have to work really hard just to make life bearable. I got cold last night b/c I sleep on a sofa with no covers or sheets. I haven't figured out how to get that work out. I bought a vinyl shower liner hoping to maybe sleep on top of it or something. I tried to find a long sleeve shirt to sleep in last night, but could not find one out of my dryer that didn't feel buggy. I need to get an iron so I can iron the things. But getting the iron home from the store without feeling buggy is another thing. > > >> > > Hi, I was just thinking how much this group is helping me. I usually wake up feeling like I'm at the end of my rope every morning and struggle to get dressed into something from my dryer that is not infested, and do the other things before I start work from my home office (I work as a medical transcriptionist). My mother who takes me to the grocery store (I stopped driving my infested car this month) is not suffering from any mites even though I can feel them in her house and car sometimes. She doen't think I'm crazy, but I'm not sure what she thinks. She says I keep talking about this problem and that is why it will not go away. Anyway, every day I think that God is punishing me for things I have done wrong with my life. But, when I read your struggles, I realize that some of you are going through the same thing or similar. I never did see any black specks -- just white ones from my scalp and they especially like paper, plastic or anything they can get cozy in (even got into a Brillo pad). I keep a lot of things in the freezer now). They feel very microscopic and very fast. I took a sample to my county for analysis in July, but they said it was nothing. Anyway, everyday is a complete struggele. I bring no paper into my condo unless it is a bill. Sometimes after shopping and paying alot of $$ I have to throw infested things out that got infested from clothes or the car I was in). This experience is so painful and I felt so alone in it. Thank you for helping me in more ways than one. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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