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how do you like your TENS unit? i've been reading about them lately

and it sound like something i will ask my doctor about. just wanted

to know how you like it.

i guess my mother and i should be grateful we have healthy thoracic

spines, right! boy, what a crappy place to get a boo-boo.

-melanie

>

>

> I have yet to have surgery because the neurosurgeon I am seeing at UVA

> doesn't recommend surgery for pain alone because of the risks

involved performing

> the surgery and the fact that pain can be worse after the surgery.

This is

> applicable to thoracic surgery at T6/7 level. The ribs have to be

cracked

> open, lung deflated, heart moved to the side just to get to the

disc. From what

> I have heard, surgery should always be the last choice especially

if pain is

> the major symptom and no other neurological factors are present. I

have heard

> this is true of other area as well. I also know people who have had

severe

> back problems and have been walking within 2 days of surgery at

L4/5 and

> L5/S1. The resulting pain they describe is like a bad backache,

nothing like he

> had experienced before.

>

> I am in plenty of pain right now and they are having a hard time

controlling

> it using narcotics, muscle relaxants, antidepressants, Neurontin,

and TENS

> unit. Even with all the meds I am taking, he still believes that

this is the

> best course of action right now because performing the surgery may

not relieve

> the pain. Once I started to exhibit neurological problems or caudia

equina,

> then surgery is imminent. Unfortunately, I have had to stop working

> (companies decision) and will start collecting LTD in June. I also

have to apply to

> social security within the next month. Personally, I would rather be

working

> but with the pain, side effects and other problems starting to

develop, I

> don't think I could work.

>

> The Lord has kept me strong to date along with my church family and

friends.

> I wish both you and your mother the best of luck with her pending

surgery

> and whatever treatment lies ahead for you.

>

> God Bless,

>

>

>

>

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>how do you like your TENS unit?

I know you were asking someone else, but can I chime in? It helps me a LOT.

Especially when I happen to be at work and walking around I crank it up and i

almost forget the pain. I don't understand all the stuff about it but anything

that helps is a miracle to me. My insurance paid for most of mine.

meg

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The TENS unit is sometimes effective in reducing the pain. If nothing else,

it does feel pretty good and helps take you mind off the pain for a little

while. When I first got it, it worked pretty good at decreasing the pain, and

it still works pretty good with localized areas of pain. When you have pain

encompassing the majority of your body, its effectiveness is somewhat limited.

Most insurance companies will pick up the cost for the TENS unit so it

definitely worth trying.

I use it a lot when I have a particular area that is bothersome. It helps

reduce the pain some and also can relieve muscle tightness. There is another

device that is similar to the TENS unit but works on a different frequency

causing it to penetrate deeper into the muscles. It actually works by

contracting

the muscles with an intensity you control. My treatment was a 45 minute

treatment 2 times/day. The first 15 minutes (warm-up phase) was very similar

to

the stimulation provided by a TENS unit and the remaining 30 minutes was for

deep muscle stimulation. The product I used was from RS Medical and called

the RS-4i. " its unique multistage Sequential Stimulation delivers

interferential current to relieve pain and muscle stimulation to restore muscle

function.

It offers a cost-effective, noninvasive and non-habit-forming modality for

treating painful muscle conditions. " Information is available from the RS

medical website.

The RS-4i works great for muscles that are in constant spasm. When I was

first prescribed the product, the muscles running up/down my back near my spine

were constantly is spasm with little relief from muscle relaxers. For the

first month of the 3 month trial, it worked great. Afterwards, the device

stated

to make my pain worse. I believe that because it helped my spasms go away,

the following treatments would reproduce the same muscle movement that

bend/leaning over would cause thus irritating my T-spine resulting in increased

nerve

pain.

The only bad thing about the RS-4i and other similar products, is that many

insurance companies wont cover the cost. Some good doctors such as mine would

ensure you got to keep the device by absorbing the cost if the product worked

for you. I returned mine to the company and had to pay like $260 for the 2

months I had it. The actual cost of the product was well over a $1000 compared

to the total cost of the TENS unit that would cost $250 if you bought it

flat out without insurance. My insurance paid for the unit that I got when I

was

going through physical therapy.

I know this was long winded and I hope I shed some light on the TENS unit

and the deep muscle stimulators. My advice would be to give the TENS unit a try.

Many people have had good results with pain relief and in my case it's a

good distracter that sometimes does relieve or reduce my pain levels. Good

luck.

God Bless you,

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i find that distraction is my best weapon against pain. nothing

*really* takes the pain away but stuff like icy-hot rub do actually

confuse my pain. and all i seem to focus on (temporarily) is the icy

hot sensation on my skin. they only last about a 1/2 hour but it is

just enough to restore my sanity sometimes.

so i betcha i'd like the TENS just fine. thanks for all the info.

-melanie

> The TENS unit is sometimes effective in reducing the pain. If

nothing else,

> it does feel pretty good and helps take you mind off the pain for a

little

> while. When I first got it, it worked pretty good at decreasing the

pain, and

> it still works pretty good with localized areas of pain. When you

have pain

> encompassing the majority of your body, its effectiveness is

somewhat limited.

> Most insurance companies will pick up the cost for the TENS unit so it

> definitely worth trying.

>

> I use it a lot when I have a particular area that is bothersome. It

helps

> reduce the pain some and also can relieve muscle tightness. There is

another

> device that is similar to the TENS unit but works on a different

frequency

> causing it to penetrate deeper into the muscles. It actually works

by contracting

> the muscles with an intensity you control. My treatment was a 45

minute

> treatment 2 times/day. The first 15 minutes (warm-up phase) was

very similar to

> the stimulation provided by a TENS unit and the remaining 30

minutes was for

> deep muscle stimulation. The product I used was from RS Medical and

called

> the RS-4i. " its unique multistage Sequential Stimulation delivers

> interferential current to relieve pain and muscle stimulation to

restore muscle function.

> It offers a cost-effective, noninvasive and non-habit-forming

modality for

> treating painful muscle conditions. " Information is available from

the RS

> medical website.

>

> The RS-4i works great for muscles that are in constant spasm. When I

was

> first prescribed the product, the muscles running up/down my back

near my spine

> were constantly is spasm with little relief from muscle relaxers.

For the

> first month of the 3 month trial, it worked great. Afterwards, the

device stated

> to make my pain worse. I believe that because it helped my spasms

go away,

> the following treatments would reproduce the same muscle movement that

> bend/leaning over would cause thus irritating my T-spine resulting

in increased nerve

> pain.

>

> The only bad thing about the RS-4i and other similar products, is

that many

> insurance companies wont cover the cost. Some good doctors such as

mine would

> ensure you got to keep the device by absorbing the cost if the

product worked

> for you. I returned mine to the company and had to pay like $260

for the 2

> months I had it. The actual cost of the product was well over a

$1000 compared

> to the total cost of the TENS unit that would cost $250 if you

bought it

> flat out without insurance. My insurance paid for the unit that I

got when I was

> going through physical therapy.

>

> I know this was long winded and I hope I shed some light on the TENS

unit

> and the deep muscle stimulators. My advice would be to give the TENS

unit a try.

> Many people have had good results with pain relief and in my case

it's a

> good distracter that sometimes does relieve or reduce my pain

levels. Good luck.

>

> God Bless you,

>

>

>

>

>

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> hi

> does insurance cover chelating if not how expensive is it,

> we have the wavier

Depends on the insurance and whether you can get positive test results

from tests that the insurance accepts.

Chelation was not expensive for me, because I did not use a doctor and

used OTC ALA.

Dana

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,

I don't know anything about the pneumonia. But I just wanted to tell

you that I hope you get to feeling better soon.

Take care,

Beth(AR)

>

> Has this ever happened to anyone? Last week my chest xray showed I

had upper

> right lobe pneumonia. I went to my primary doc, and he said he

didn't think

> it was pneumonia because I was showing no signs of pneumonia. I have had

> pneumonia before and I know I wasn't feeling like I did when I was

sick with

> pneumonia. Well he ordered a CT scan just to be sure, and he just

called me

> with the results, and the scan showed that whatever was in my right

upper

> lobe had cleared up, but now it was showing up in my left lower

lobe. This

> is so weird. The past few days I have been feeling sickly like I am

coming

> down with something. Severe fatigue. Sometimes it just wears my out

walking

> from the couch to the doorway. Low grade fever, etc. Also according

to the

> radiologist this has to do with Rheumatoids. Thats the word he used

> Rheumatoids " . My primary doesn't want to order antibiotics just

yet. I go

> see my Rheumy on Monday, and I think he wants him to deal with it

since it

> has something to do with rheumatoids.

>

> Well.......if anyone knows anything bout dis hea.....please let me know.

> Starting to feel like a circus freak. LOL!

>

> Hugs to all

>

>

>

>

>

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,

I don't know anything about the pneumonia. But I just wanted to tell

you that I hope you get to feeling better soon.

Take care,

Beth(AR)

>

> Has this ever happened to anyone? Last week my chest xray showed I

had upper

> right lobe pneumonia. I went to my primary doc, and he said he

didn't think

> it was pneumonia because I was showing no signs of pneumonia. I have had

> pneumonia before and I know I wasn't feeling like I did when I was

sick with

> pneumonia. Well he ordered a CT scan just to be sure, and he just

called me

> with the results, and the scan showed that whatever was in my right

upper

> lobe had cleared up, but now it was showing up in my left lower

lobe. This

> is so weird. The past few days I have been feeling sickly like I am

coming

> down with something. Severe fatigue. Sometimes it just wears my out

walking

> from the couch to the doorway. Low grade fever, etc. Also according

to the

> radiologist this has to do with Rheumatoids. Thats the word he used

> Rheumatoids " . My primary doesn't want to order antibiotics just

yet. I go

> see my Rheumy on Monday, and I think he wants him to deal with it

since it

> has something to do with rheumatoids.

>

> Well.......if anyone knows anything bout dis hea.....please let me know.

> Starting to feel like a circus freak. LOL!

>

> Hugs to all

>

>

>

>

>

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I did a lot of research online and there seems to be quite a bit of

correlation of rheumatoid arthritis and pneumonia. There is one called

eosinophilic pneumonia that is an initial manifestation of rhematoid

arthritis. This is the link to the website about this. I thought it was

interesting reading in case it comes up with someone else. http://www

chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/126/3/993

Hugs to all

-- [ ] Re: another question

,

I don't know anything about the pneumonia. But I just wanted to tell

you that I hope you get to feeling better soon.

Take care,

Beth(AR)

>

> Has this ever happened to anyone? Last week my chest xray showed I

had upper

> right lobe pneumonia. I went to my primary doc, and he said he

didn't think

> it was pneumonia because I was showing no signs of pneumonia. I have had

> pneumonia before and I know I wasn't feeling like I did when I was

sick with

> pneumonia. Well he ordered a CT scan just to be sure, and he just

called me

> with the results, and the scan showed that whatever was in my right

upper

> lobe had cleared up, but now it was showing up in my left lower

lobe. This

> is so weird. The past few days I have been feeling sickly like I am

coming

> down with something. Severe fatigue. Sometimes it just wears my out

walking

> from the couch to the doorway. Low grade fever, etc. Also according

to the

> radiologist this has to do with Rheumatoids. Thats the word he used

> Rheumatoids " . My primary doesn't want to order antibiotics just

yet. I go

> see my Rheumy on Monday, and I think he wants him to deal with it

since it

> has something to do with rheumatoids.

>

> Well.......if anyone knows anything bout dis hea.....please let me know.

> Starting to feel like a circus freak. LOL!

>

> Hugs to all

>

>

>

>

>

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I did a lot of research online and there seems to be quite a bit of

correlation of rheumatoid arthritis and pneumonia. There is one called

eosinophilic pneumonia that is an initial manifestation of rhematoid

arthritis. This is the link to the website about this. I thought it was

interesting reading in case it comes up with someone else. http://www

chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/126/3/993

Hugs to all

-- [ ] Re: another question

,

I don't know anything about the pneumonia. But I just wanted to tell

you that I hope you get to feeling better soon.

Take care,

Beth(AR)

>

> Has this ever happened to anyone? Last week my chest xray showed I

had upper

> right lobe pneumonia. I went to my primary doc, and he said he

didn't think

> it was pneumonia because I was showing no signs of pneumonia. I have had

> pneumonia before and I know I wasn't feeling like I did when I was

sick with

> pneumonia. Well he ordered a CT scan just to be sure, and he just

called me

> with the results, and the scan showed that whatever was in my right

upper

> lobe had cleared up, but now it was showing up in my left lower

lobe. This

> is so weird. The past few days I have been feeling sickly like I am

coming

> down with something. Severe fatigue. Sometimes it just wears my out

walking

> from the couch to the doorway. Low grade fever, etc. Also according

to the

> radiologist this has to do with Rheumatoids. Thats the word he used

> Rheumatoids " . My primary doesn't want to order antibiotics just

yet. I go

> see my Rheumy on Monday, and I think he wants him to deal with it

since it

> has something to do with rheumatoids.

>

> Well.......if anyone knows anything bout dis hea.....please let me know.

> Starting to feel like a circus freak. LOL!

>

> Hugs to all

>

>

>

>

>

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You may have fluid in your knee.

Hugs

June

----- Original Message -----

From:

hi guys

the area above my right knee has swollen up today and is quite sore

when i get up and down

i originally thought i might have done something to it but on 2nd

thought, thought it was probably the ra in a new spot (great NOT)

does this sound correct?

my hand and feet xrays came back normal

cheers

mel

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Carol wrote:

> Forgot to add to my other post

>

> How many of you are using this as a healing tool for candida,

> allergies, leaky gut ect...?

>

> I would like to know how this has helped in healing your health and

> how long it has taken.

For me the big thing was getting rid of gluten and casein.

IgA allergies are a big cause of " leaky gut " ... they

prompt the production of a chemical called Zonulin that

opens up the " tight junctions " in your gut cells (and brain

cells, which is worse!). It's kinda new research, but

pretty fascinating.

After cleaning up my diet (which was a major life change)

I started probiotics. Kefir beer has been the most

helpful probiotic. And kimchi with meals!

I also use bentonite clay. Recently I've been taking

it with meals. It seems to be death to candida, and

gloms on to stray lectins and aflatoxins. Does wonders

for gut problems. I take like 1/4 tsp. with a meal,

but it's still an experiment. I use the Pascalite brand

(or outcropping, depending on how you look at it), but

it is used regularly in cattle feed to fight aflatoxins

and bacterial overgrowth.

-- Heidi

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Heidi,

I am told that bentonite should never be taken with meals.

It removes all vitiamins, minerals, and toxins.

I take 1 teasp. with water on an empty stomach morning and nite

before bedtime, 3x weekly, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

Also good for a weekend fast.

After 2 hours can take food.

Also do not take any medications or vitiamins until several hours have past.

You can buy the liquid bentonite at the Health food store. Much

easier to take, dissolves quicker and better.

Aniya

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Careful with the Bentonite!

See: Cleanse.net...

for Q & A's about cleansing

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Heidi,

I am told that bentonite should never be taken with meals.

It removes all vitiamins, minerals, and toxins.

I take 1 teasp. with water on an empty stomach morning and nite

before bedtime, 3x weekly, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

Also good for a weekend fast.

After 2 hours can take food.

Also do not take any medications or vitiamins until several hours have past.

You can buy the liquid bentonite at the Health food store. Much

easier to take, dissolves quicker and better.

Aniya

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mcguinne5@... wrote:

> Heidi,

>

> I am told that bentonite should never be taken with meals.

> It removes all vitiamins, minerals, and toxins.

Yeah, I was told that too. That doesn't jibe with

any study I've read, most of which are done with

cows. They discovered that bentonite interfered with

Vitamin A ... when it was 25% of the feed! So I'd highly

recommend that you eat less than 1/4 of your food

as bentonite. Cattle feed routinely has 2% bentonite

mixed in it. Farmers want their cattle to gain weight

fast, and use as little feed as possible, and they

do measure this stuff carefully, so there's no way that

2% is hurting the cows, rather the opposite.

The only people that talk about NOT taking it with

food are the sites talking about it for humans. But

there is little research done on humans, that I've read

anyway. And certainly not about the effects of bentonite

with meals. Which is probably why no one wants to go

out on a limb!

It does interefere with some medications, and the vet sites

say " do not give this with bentonite containing feed " .

However, cows fed bentonite feed are generally healthier

and gain weight BETTER than those without. Plus it has

been given as a mineral *supplement* ... which just wouldn't

work if it was absorbing " all minerals " .

There is also the bit that many animals (and tribal people)

that eat bentonite do so to avoid toxins in the food.

Since all our food has *some* toxins, that seems

like a reasonable idea. Most of the nasty stuff (like

lectins and aflatoxins) are very attractive to clay,

while the " good stuff " probably isn't as attractive.

Plus the good stuff is more digestible. I'm thinking that

if, say, clay got attracted to a peptide that was

digesting, the digestive juices would still act on the

peptide and it would digest anyway, falling off from

the clay particle. But if a 33-mer non-digestible protein

glommed in, it would just sit there and pass on through

(and thereby not " hit " the immune system, because the sticky

part is attached to a clay particle and not visible to

the immune system).

But you have to make your own decisions and do your

own research. My own E3'ing has shown that since

I've been taking it with meals, my hair is thicker,

my nails stronger, no tetany, more energy, and zero

gut problems.

Plus I just love not doing what " everybody does " ! But

if I see some real research that shows clay with

meals is significantly bad, I'll change my mind!

-- Heidi

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Bumping this up to see if anyone would like to respond. I am hoping

to connect with those who have used this to heal. :)

>

> Forgot to add to my other post

>

> How many of you are using this as a healing tool for candida,

> allergies, leaky gut ect...?

>

> I would like to know how this has helped in healing your health and

> how long it has taken.

>

> I believe in these veggies as I have seen noticable improvemet in my

> bowels. I am just waiting to see what other benefits I can receive!!

>

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Carol wrote:

> Bumping this up to see if anyone would like to respond. I am hoping

> to connect with those who have used this to heal. :)

I've used fermented vegies and kefir as healing tools.

They do work! Before that I used probiotic pills,

which worked too.

However, I had to address the root of the problem

too, which was the REST of my diet. (specifically

food allergies, esp. gluten and casein). And I've also

started taking Pascalite (bentonite)

clay with meals (about 1/4 tsp.

or less), which is sort of controversial but

there are a lot of animal studies that show

it changes the bacterial mix in the gut.

Anyway, if you want to get into a lot of details

about gut healing and fermentation and bacteria

etc., the GFCFNN group is full of similar people!

The focus is on gluten and casein, because that

was the root cause for that group of people, and

I'm not sure what your own story is, but that's

the piece I know.

-- Heidi

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Heidi please forgive me for responing to this. I must of missed it.

I have been away from glutens for years now. My daugter about 1 year

but she eats some now and then and eats that sprouted bread until I

can make the real sourdough bread. I have been on a veg/meat/egg diet

for years and it hasnt even helped me loose weight. I am down to

eating Almond flour for snacks, eggs, meat(chicken, some fish, beef

some pork), my homemade coconut chocolate candy, coffee, teas and

water. Not much huh? Well I have had to really get creative and get

some real good ideas on the food tv network and work in what I can

use. I have followed the candida plans that stay away from sugar,

dairy, yeast, fruit, grains(every so often but still cant handle

them). I take my own food where ever I go and its just so hard at

times.

As of last spring I cant drink Kefir as it bloats me out terribly

even after days of letting it sit out. Kimchi I havent tried yet

except for the store bought fermented type which I didnt like the

taste. Bentonite clay made me sick :( My stomach was off for days. I

guess some cant handle it. I just started taking a probiotic again.

Hard to find a good one without to many fillers, dairy or FOS which

doesnt work with me.

I am hoping to see much improvement soon. I have been eating kraut

for 2 months and would really like to be active and feeling well

again..especially for my family!!

Thanks for your thoughts!

> > Forgot to add to my other post

> >

> > How many of you are using this as a healing tool for candida,

> > allergies, leaky gut ect...?

> >

> > I would like to know how this has helped in healing your health

and

> > how long it has taken.

>

> For me the big thing was getting rid of gluten and casein.

> IgA allergies are a big cause of " leaky gut " ... they

> prompt the production of a chemical called Zonulin that

> opens up the " tight junctions " in your gut cells (and brain

> cells, which is worse!). It's kinda new research, but

> pretty fascinating.

>

> After cleaning up my diet (which was a major life change)

> I started probiotics. Kefir beer has been the most

> helpful probiotic. And kimchi with meals!

>

> I also use bentonite clay. Recently I've been taking

> it with meals. It seems to be death to candida, and

> gloms on to stray lectins and aflatoxins. Does wonders

> for gut problems. I take like 1/4 tsp. with a meal,

> but it's still an experiment. I use the Pascalite brand

> (or outcropping, depending on how you look at it), but

> it is used regularly in cattle feed to fight aflatoxins

> and bacterial overgrowth.

>

> -- Heidi

>

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Hi Heidi....I responded to your other post and thanks for answering

me again. Can you tell me what this -GFCFNN group is? Do you have a

link that I can check it out?

Thanks

-- In nutrition , Heidi <heidis@t...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Carol wrote:

> > Bumping this up to see if anyone would like to respond. I am

hoping

> > to connect with those who have used this to heal. :)

>

> I've used fermented vegies and kefir as healing tools.

> They do work! Before that I used probiotic pills,

> which worked too.

>

> However, I had to address the root of the problem

> too, which was the REST of my diet. (specifically

> food allergies, esp. gluten and casein). And I've also

> started taking Pascalite (bentonite)

> clay with meals (about 1/4 tsp.

> or less), which is sort of controversial but

> there are a lot of animal studies that show

> it changes the bacterial mix in the gut.

>

> Anyway, if you want to get into a lot of details

> about gut healing and fermentation and bacteria

> etc., the GFCFNN group is full of similar people!

> The focus is on gluten and casein, because that

> was the root cause for that group of people, and

> I'm not sure what your own story is, but that's

> the piece I know.

>

> -- Heidi

>

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Carol wrote:

> Heidi please forgive me for responing to this. I must of missed it.

>

> I have been away from glutens for years now. My daugter about 1 year

> but she eats some now and then and eats that sprouted bread until I

> can make the real sourdough bread. I have been on a veg/meat/egg diet

> for years and it hasnt even helped me loose weight. I am down to

> eating Almond flour for snacks, eggs, meat(chicken, some fish, beef

> some pork), my homemade coconut chocolate candy, coffee, teas and

> water. Not much huh?

If you are in fact gluten intolerant, what holds up a LOT of people

from healing is the " trace gluten " factor. That is, when you

are healing, tiny homeopathic amounts of gluten will

upset the gut for like, 2 weeks. So the amount on, say,

a towel that someone else is using while eating wheat bread,

can be enough. The amount in sprouted bread or sourdough

can also keep you from healing. And stuff like malt syrup

which is made from barley.

After a person is healed, the TINY amounts might be ok.

Or not, depends who you ask.

But it's worth getting tested, if you are still having

gut problems. Seems like about 90% of the time the problem

turns out to be food sensitivity at the root. Getting

a good IgG panel will tell you a LOT.

> As of last spring I cant drink Kefir as it bloats me out terribly

> even after days of letting it sit out. Kimchi I havent tried yet

> except for the store bought fermented type which I didnt like the

> taste. Bentonite clay made me sick :( My stomach was off for days. I

> guess some cant handle it.

You might check the brand, or take a TINY amount Some

people do react to some clays. However, there is also

the fact that the clay really changes your gut flora,

and THAT can cause indigestion the first couple

of times. One person I know who swears by it now got

pretty sick the first time she tried it. Also Pascalite

has a native fungi in it which might be related to

pennicillan: some folks who are allergic to pennicillan can't

take that brand.

You can also try good ol' Pepto Bismol. A lot of people

have microscopic colitis, which is sort of a permanent

damage to the gut. Taking Pepto 3x a day for a week or

so, often will heal that up. It seems pretty harmless

unless you react to salicylates. Pepto tends to

kill the bad bacteria also.

As for kefir: I had to stop drinking it because, as

it turns out, I'm casein intolerant. The kefir beer

works really good as a probiotic though. Just use

a kefir grain in some apple juice (or molasses/hops!

though apple juice is better gut-wise). Probiotic

apple cider has been the BEST probiotic I tried!

-- Heidi

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GFCFNN . Just log in to and search on it.

It's basically a group of Nourishing Traditions type people

who are ALSO gluten/casein intolerant (so most of them also

have or had gut problems!). Lots of recipe sharing and empathy.

There is a wide range of " food types " , but many folks there

are on SCD or Paleo type diets, which sounds similar to yours.

Also lots of experimentation with probiotics for healing

the ol' innards.

-- Heidi

Carol wrote:

> Hi Heidi....I responded to your other post and thanks for answering

> me again. Can you tell me what this -GFCFNN group is? Do you have a

> link that I can check it out?

>

> Thanks

>

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Neuteam is his email

another question

> Jeanne

>

> I have a preschooler who will be reclassified in a few months.

>

> My child has made significant progress regarding his Apraxia.

> It appears he may be declassified because of his high cognitive skills

> even though he still has speech and OT issues.(ie. unintelligable

> connected speech; poor pragmatic skills etc.)

>

> According to the NJ communication impaired classification my child needs

> to test in the 10th percentile to qualifiy.

>

> " Communication impaired " means a language disorder in the areas of

> morphology,syntax, semantics and/or pragmatics/discourse which adversely

> affects a student's educational performance and is not due primarily to an

> auditory impairment. The problem shall be demonstrated through functional

> assessment of language

> in other than a testing situation ''and'' performance below 1.5

> standard deviations, or the 10th percentile on at least two standardized

> oral language tests, where such tests are appropriate. When the area of

> suspected disability is language, assessment by a certified

> speech-language specialist and assessment to establish the educational

> impact are required. The speech-language specialist shall be considered a

> child study team member.

> I understand there is an alternative category ESLS,

> (i.e. eligible for speech and language services only) but I'm not sure if

> that would allow my child to get OT therapy services or extended school

> year.

>

> I wonder if we can use a 504 plan to cover the accommodations,

> OT services and ESY.

>

> Any feedback from the group would be appreciated.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> N.

>

>

> Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

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,

I already sent you a response privately but wanted to respond to the

group.

OHI is Other health impaired and can be used for an apraxic child

when they don't qualify based on their speech tests.

denise

>

> > Jeanne

> >

> > I have a preschooler who will be reclassified in a few months.

> >

> > My child has made significant progress regarding his Apraxia.

> > It appears he may be declassified because of his high cognitive

skills

> > even though he still has speech and OT issues.(ie. unintelligable

> > connected speech; poor pragmatic skills etc.)

> >

> > According to the NJ communication impaired classification my

child needs

> > to test in the 10th percentile to qualifiy.

> >

> > " Communication impaired " means a language disorder in the

areas of

> > morphology,syntax, semantics and/or pragmatics/discourse which

adversely

> > affects a student's educational performance and is not due

primarily to an

> > auditory impairment. The problem shall be demonstrated through

functional

> > assessment of language

> > in other than a testing situation ''and'' performance below

1.5

> > standard deviations, or the 10th percentile on at least two

standardized

> > oral language tests, where such tests are appropriate. When the

area of

> > suspected disability is language, assessment by a certified

> > speech-language specialist and assessment to establish the

educational

> > impact are required. The speech-language specialist shall be

considered a

> > child study team member.

> > I understand there is an alternative category ESLS,

> > (i.e. eligible for speech and language services only) but I'm

not sure if

> > that would allow my child to get OT therapy services or extended

school

> > year.

> >

> > I wonder if we can use a 504 plan to cover the accommodations,

> > OT services and ESY.

> >

> > Any feedback from the group would be appreciated.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > N.

> >

> >

> > Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

>

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This just happened to me and I requested both a language and speech

articulation evaluation together with a progress report from the OT. I

found his expressive speech to be at 90% and stressed he still had a

handwriting problem. Can your child write his name or learned the abc's

yet? You may want to look into written expression or specific learning

disability. Your OT may want to state vestibular/procioceptive global

apraxia (motor planning disorder, etc). when coming to these meetings you

need everything written out in educational goals. When it's fighting the

health insurance, everything has to be a medical necessity.

Good luck!

Joanne

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