Guest guest Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Hello, group. Recently, I was able to numerically weight the history of illnesses in my family within the context of a complete vaccination record between 1977 and 2001, including four courses of treatments with amalgams. Some might find this interesting, because I was able to fit these events into a standard ANOVA and calculate the probabilities that the correlation with autism and other bizarre symptoms was NOT due to chance. So... I'm restating this and including a link below to make results available. Especially if you're familiar with inferential stats, you may appreciate this. Whatever criticism may be aimed at the procedure, the procedure meets the most rigid standards of rational inference for scientific analysis, and proves well beyond reasonable doubt that the symptoms were caused by a combination of vaccinations and amalgams. I've had to make some corrections and revise wording, but it seems ok now. Have a great day... http://foossolvesunified.com/ANOVA.htm From: "Vaccinations " <Vaccinations >Vaccinations Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 3:46:04 PMSubject: Digest Number 9530 Vaccinations Messages In This Digest (18 Messages) 1a. Re: Lesson learned From: T Pee 1b. Re: Lesson learned From: wharrison@... 1c. Re: Lesson learned From: T Pee 1d. Re: Lesson learned From: Vis-a-Vis Wellness 1e. Re: Lesson learned From: m_zemlicka 1f. Re: Lesson learned From: carlena 1g. Re: Lesson learned From: SapphireMoon26@... 2a. Re: How to find a naturopathic doctor From: wharrison@... 2b. Re: How to find a naturopathic doctor From: Deborah 3a. Re: FW: Re: Horrified! From: a Kunselman 3b. Re: FW: Re: Horrified! From: wharrison@... 3c. Re: FW: Re: Horrified! From: Sheri Nakken 4a. Re: Horrified! From: a Kunselman 4b. Re: Horrified! From: a Kunselman 4c. Re: Horrified! From: Sheri Nakken 4d. Re: Horrified! From: chipsqur@... 5. Gauging Bill Gates’s Health Grants Five Years In - NYTimes.com From: Sheri Nakken 6. Interesting - Fetal immune system arises from an entirely different From: Sheri Nakken View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: Lesson learned Posted by: "T Pee" faeborn60@... faeborn60 Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:19 am (PST) I'm thrilled to be dealing with others who are interested in a cure and not a crutch. I'll be emailing you for the referral. Thank you very, very much. ____________ _________ _________ __From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@ gmail.com>VaccinationsSent: Tue, December 21, 2010 10:25:59 AMSubject: Re: Lesson learned You need an expert homeopath - email me if you want a referral to one who does phone consults and is excellentYou need to get at the root of this, sorry to saySheri yes it is true that antibiotics don't cure anything. Unfortunately, it appears that my search continues. She started loosing resonance in her voice two days ago and last night struggled to breath. It feels to me like she has something like a spider web that begins in her sinus and then grows out. Often she had a runny nose during the day and stopped up at night. I'm really working on feeling hopeful instead of devistated.. .> >She takes a probiotic by metagenic twice a day as well as something called >Ultra-inflamX to heal her intestine and two tablespoons of fish oil daily- per >the Dr.> >Fortunaely, she loves green drinks too (-:> >One Dr. I found at the homeopathic pharmacy (the medorrhynim child DR.) and the >allergy Dr was at a place called 'the advanced center for homeopathy.' I >understood the shots to be a removal of blood, run through a desensitizing >machine and then re-injected over a period of two months. I was told that the >success rate is 95% but at the time I could fail to see how more injections >would help....>I am also certain that she does not have allergies at this point. SCIO >described it as her body is ignoring pathogens- as at this point I feel like I >am boxing in the dark.>> >>>From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@ gmail.com>>Vaccinations>Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 1:18:55 AM>Subject: Re: Lesson learned>> >>interesting story and it does NOT sound like they were true homeopaths>and antibiotics don't cure anything>I would be sure to give probiotics at this point and watch and wait.>I hope for your sake you are done with this whole thing>Sheri>>At 12:32 PM 12/20/2010, you wrote:>>>>Thanks Winnie! Say, I did have to take an IV of penicillian during her birth >because I was diagnosed with Strep B. I was disapointed at the time that I >could not have the totally drug free birth I had wanted and it is possible that >dose did begin our saga only for it to manifest after being vaccinized. ( How >very funny for me to then move to S. Africa, give birth to my second child and >have my OB/GYN shrug and say that strep B transmitted to a newborn is EXTREMELY >rare and that I don't need any anti-biotic! ) had no other exposure to >any pharmaseudical prior to vaccination.>> >>Well done to your 'Big Will' that makes me smile very, very big. (-:>> >>Thanks for mentioning that anti-biotics can mask the problem. It's been 5 days >>off of the drug- when do you think we may be in the clear? >>>> >>>>>>>>From: "wharrison@optonline .net" <wharrison@optonline .net>>>Vaccinations>>Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 3:59:36 PM>>Subject: Re: Lesson learned>>>> >>>>Wow. Good for you to pursue this so relentlessly and to question the various >>diagnoses. It is just outrageous that we parents have to wing this on our own >>when all we wanted to do was have our babies. >>>> >>A couple of comments: first, I am shocked a homeopath would suggest allergy >>shots, or predict a lifetime of homeopathics meds. They do not sound like true >>homeopaths to me at all. Good you got away from them. And I'm so glad you didn't >>let any of the other doctors take out her body parts!>> >>Second, I think you are absolutely right that the vaccinations set her off on >>this path to ill health. But in answer to your question how could a breastfed >>baby get leaky gut, one way is antibiotics. Not the only way (I didn't see that >>she had any early on) but no doubt they made it worse. I also experienced >>failure to grow in my youngest after being on antibiotics for repeated >>"infections. " I worried for years he would be puny, and I had three older boys >>to compare him to. Happily, he is now known as "Big Will" by all his coaches!>> >>Keep in mind that antibiotics tell the body to stop having symptoms, that they >>will take care of whatever it is, including if it's only allergies. It then >>looks as if they're cured, then boom. It's back, or something else is. Anyway, >>you did a great job and thanks for sharing your story. No doubt it will help >>other parents who are experiencing this.>> >>Winnie>> >> Lesson learned Hi friends,I have posted a few times but I am still a newbie on this site. Firstly, I want to give a sincere Thanks to all of you aware in the dangers of vaccines and for helping others (like me) muddle through what I believe will be known as the generational catastrophy of our time.I am also writing in desire to share my experience and extreme joy that a cure has been found to my formerly chronically sick child, .Many, many Doctors have been stymied by her condition and I am painfully aware why a doctors office is considered a 'practice.' I hope to share this with you in desire to help others. became very sick after I took her to an allopathic doctor in the United States to be vaccinated at 15 months old. I belive that the Dr. doubled up on the shots because I had not wanted to begin vaccination earlier. However, It is of my education and experience that I now believe that no shot is safe.For 3 years I have had a very unhappy,sick, kid with SERIOUS sinus issues and allergies, high feavers, balance problems and nightly head sweats. All of this manifested following the shots. And the worst part? The health institution that caused this has totally let me down. Provided me with a sick child with no answers but surgeries and a possible life time of drugs (at my expense). I never went that route as intutively I KNEW there was a cure.Yet, as I sit here, my heart overflows with gratitude for I finally now have a child who can be defined in the vast sence, healthy.Please let me share this with you because for years 'condition' stumped many, many health professionals. I believe it is because vaccination is a rather 'new' illness, and the full health ramifications of vaccine are unknown.For 3 years I went from Dr. to Dr. because the diagnosis , would get would be an option that I would not do- I will explain this more later. I did have blood allergy tests and I found out that she was allergic/intolleran t to almost everything she was eating. Funny, not wheat or milk likely because she rarely had it to begin with. I consider myself to be very health aware, For example, I breast fed for 30 months and gave her a largly organic variety of foods with low processed foods. I was embarassed that after this, my kid was so sick.I went to mostly wholistic Dr.s as I am looking for a cure. The first Dr I saw tried homeopathic sinus remedies. When that did not work, I was told that she was what is called a "medorrhinum child' and would have to be on this for the rest of her life. Being homeopathy, I was OK with this, if in fact the medorrhinum was helping her- but it was not! At this point she would wake up every morning with snot crusted bubbles out of her nose from fighting from drowning in it at night. She also had a lot of ear infections and developed earwax plugs, the size of a pencil erasure that prevented her from hearing. Dr upon DR would assure me that the wax would fall out... finally after nearly a year of this, an acupuncturist got the plugs out, and she began to hear on that magical day.After the 'medorrhinum child' diagnosis, my search for a new Dr continued. The next one I found gave her the wrong homepathic mix and made her symptoms worse but later remedied her back to just bad with the antidote. The next homeopath told me I had an allergenic child and the cure would be allergy shots. I was desperate to help her but intuitively I knew that I don't have an allergenic child- so my search continued. Out of desperation, (18 months of a having a very sick child) I saw an allopathic ear, nose and throat Dr. She got anti-biotics and steroids for up her nose from him and the likely hood of surgery to remove the adenoids. I relunctantly gave her the antibiotics and steroids but it failed to help. Feeling relived that allopathy had also failed us, my search continued to a 'body talk therapist' A very intersting healing tool, but unfortunately saw no results for this what was turning into a bizarre condition. Next, I found an excellent SCIO practioner who of all people has been the most helpful. Through SCIO, her nightly snot bubbles disappeard and I was guided with quality to needed supplements. Because she was allergic to nearly everything, I was having a hard time meeting her needs and it appeared that she stopped growing.I then found a homeopath who used SCIO to energize water into a healing frequency. We took the remedies for 3 months and saw a improvement at about month 3. was doing better and her head sweats were gone. I ran out of medicine for a week, and everything (but head sweats) returned. I knew that this was not right and I needed a new Dr. Then, I read an article by Dr. Wakefield on the MMR vaccine causing intestinal problems and creating an autisim like effect. Although never had the MMR, I began to think about the possiblitiy that the vaccine had damaged her intestine. I then found a Homeopath, chinese medicine, intestinal specialist and suggested to him that she had intestional permeablility, hence all of the allergies. He agreed and gave medicine to heal her intestine- she in fact had leaky gut. (By the way- Can anybody tell me how my breast fed organic baby got holes in her intestine??? !!)After 3 months of this medecine, all allergies gone- but she still could not breath through her nose. The sinus remedies were failing. The Dr appologized to her stating that he did not know what was still wrong with her, she was immunodeficient. Then told me that she needed to have her adenoids out as nothing else was working. Next came the blessing in disguise. came down with tonsillitis! After trying many of remedies, she got worse and I very relunctantly put her on antibiotics- still taking meticulus care of her newly healed intestine under the Dr.s care. Now, she is healed! She is humming and laughing, letting air gleefully pass through her nose. She is smelling flowers and scents and enjoying her sences, she is cured!In conclusion, I now believe that my child's intestine (and who knows what else) was compramised by the vaccination. Food was passing through into her blood stream. Her body was creating mucus to protect itself from the injury and it was spilling out her nose, eyes and ears. The mucus was then prone to infection. After her gut was healed, the infection still thrived. By taking the anti-biotic, the infection was defeated and now is singing and playing with the sensation of having air come through your nose for the first time in 3 years.And, I don't have a medorrhinum child, allergenic child, immuno-deficient child nor does she need to have an her adenoids, tonsils or any other organ removed. But I did have a serously sick kid from vaccinating!In health and grattitude,Faeborn Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (16) 1d. Re: Lesson learned Posted by: "Vis-a-Vis Wellness" visaviswellness@... visaviswellness@... Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:12 pm (PST) It's good to hear a story with a "happy ending." I agree with the other responses - can't imagine what homeopaths you went to. And medorrhinum could be a constitutional remedy for your daughter, which means that it could be used throughout her life. This could have been a mis-communication, because that doesn't mean she would continue taking the remedy on a weekly or monthly basis for the rest of her life. To me, a constitutional remedy would be suited to the person and would probably be the first to try in most situations that come up. I wouldn't make a statement like that unless I've seen good results. Another point I would like to add is that her tonsillitis may have been a clearing for your daughter. It could indicate that the remedy given helped the immune system enough to start working! Homeopaths like to see fevers after a remedy because it shows the immune system is working. The biggest "problem" I have with parents is that they will run off to the allopathic doctor to get antibiotics or give motrin and then suppress the fever. Since your child was obviously feeling good, maybe there wasn't too much suppression. I would keep that last treatment in mind, and think about returning to finish up, if needed. Regards,Ruth Pearson The finest compliment I can receive is a referral. Thank you for remembering me when your friends, family, and co-workers need homeopathic care. Vis-à -Vis Wellnesswww.Vis-a-VisWellne ss.com954-567-4449This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify Vis-a-Vis Wellness immediately and delete the original. Any further use of this email is prohibited. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (16) 1e. Re: Lesson learned Posted by: "m_zemlicka" m_zemlicka@... m_zemlicka Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:23 pm (PST) I am currently reading a very interesting book: "The Recipe for living without disease" by Aajonus Vonderplanitz (Author of the life-changing book on disease-free living "we want to live".He mentions a baby he treated successfully with all raw food. There are also recipes for infants in the book. Maybe something to look into?From a terminal cancer survivor, now leading nutritionist, learn how to live without disease naturally. Aajonus, who had eignt "incurable" diseases, incl. developmental autism, diabetes, psoriasis, bursitis, and angina, was diagnosed with stomach, blood and bone cancers at age 20. He outlives his medical death sentence by 34 years, enjoying excellent health, clarity and energy with his Primal diet.a>>> >>>> > I have refused all vaccines for my 6 month old son. On Friday, I>>> > obtained his newborn medical records from the hospital. On one page,>>> it>>> > stated that Hepatitis B Vaccine was refused by parents. Then a few>>> > pages later, on the newborn assessment page, there were a nurses>>> > initials next to Hep B Vaccine and that it was given in left leg and>>> > the time it was given!! At the time stated on the chart, my husband>>> > assures me he was with our son and no vaccine was given because he>>> > repeatedly told them no. There were a few times, however, we were not>>> > with him. I verbally told every single person I came in contact with>>> at>>> > the hospital that he was not to be vaccinated!! I did not have anyone>>> > sign anything though! I discussed this with my doctor and all the>>> > nurses, even the admissions clerk! I don't know what to do! I am>>> > horrified and absolutely sick to my stomach. I don't know if this is>>> > documentation error or if they vaccinated my child against my will! I>>> > plan on contacting doctor tomorrow. Any>> words of wisdom before I do so?>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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