Chlorella

[Guest guest]

The chlorella has been removed from PD if it was there before...

Re: Chlorella

I would be real careful around chlorella. It's one of hte ingredients in

Primal Defense, which did horrible things to my son, including

hyperactivity,

irritibility, hypoglycemia and dilated pupils for the first time. I was

told it

was likely the chlorella in the PD that caused the problem, as chlorella

may

latch onto and move metals around without removing them from the body. I

for sure

will avoid chlorella for my son.

Debbie

[Guest guest]

It lists 14 probiotics, Dunaliella Salina, Barley Grass Juice, Oat Grass

Juice, Yucca Juice, Ionic Plant based minerals, Iron (fulvic acid

sourse).

chlorella

In a message dated 2/11/2004 12:29:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

The chlorella has been removed from PD if it was there before...

********

,

Does it still have spirulina or barley green in it? They both have

chlorella

in them.

Thanks,

Sharon K.

[Guest guest]

What I can remeber of previous discussions the worries are

1. Nobody knows the action of which it works

2. These plants have a high affinity for metals, so who knows if they

attracted them from their growing environment, which means you could actually be

introducing metals by using them

3. There is no known safe dosing schedule, so you could be moving metals

around but not getting them out.

HTH

MAndi in UK

> did a search on this list to find out more about chlorella, but

> the three posts I found didn't really tell me much.

>

> Does anyone know anything about this stuff? It is supposed to

> remove mercury and other metals from the body.

>

> Also, I've read previous posts about cilantro. People seem to be

> very scared off by it. Does anyone include this in their diet to

> help rid metal toxins?

>

[Guest guest]

I had all my mercury fillings (9) replaced with composites this Jan-Feb. The

dentist gave me a book on mercury detox protocol which involved 15-20

different supplements (vitamins, minerals, chlorella, amino acids). In

addition, my naturopath had me take " Detox Max " an oral EDTA supplement.

I went to the ND recently for point testing and my mercury reading had gone

from 100 to 15 (goal is zero) since it was tested before I began the

replacements in January.

So, does chlorella work? Hard to say which supplement did the trick, or if

all were necessary. My ND swears by the Detox Max. It's ridiculously

expensive, and she suggested if possible to eliminate all the other

supplements if it helped me afford the Detox Max.

(Here's a link to one place selling the DTM:

http://www.drkulacz.com/contents/store/19.htm. My ND's price is $40/btl and

I managed to talk her into a quantity discount.)

Jill

Chlorella

I saw in one of the post a mention of chlorella. On Dr Mercola's

site, I saw where he is advocating using this as a mercury chelator

in the system. Have any of you tried this? If so, did it work? What

dosage?

[Guest guest]

> Chlorella

>

>

>I saw in one of the post a mention of chlorella. On Dr Mercola's

>site, I saw where he is advocating using this as a mercury chelator

>in the system. Have any of you tried this? If so, did it work? What

>dosage?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>I had all my mercury fillings (9) replaced with composites this

>Jan-Feb. The

>dentist gave me a book on mercury detox protocol which involved 15-20

>different supplements (vitamins, minerals, chlorella, amino acids). In

>addition, my naturopath had me take " Detox Max " an oral EDTA supplement.

>

>I went to the ND recently for point testing and my mercury reading had gone

>from 100 to 15 (goal is zero) since it was tested before I began the

>replacements in January.

Jill, what type of test(s) did you do pre- and post-removal?

------------->The naturopath does " point testing " with her " Body Scan 2010 "

machine. I don't know exactly what the tests are. The machine has the

electromagnetic resonance or something like that of hundreds of substances.

My reaction to them is measured. Then supplements are added to a plate on

the machine, and supposedly their " frequency " combined with my own gives a

different reading, and the ND can tell if the supplements would benefit me.

It's all very high-tech seeming, yet kind of quacky at the same time. Anyone

else know more about the Body Scan?

>So, does chlorella work? Hard to say which supplement did the trick, or if

>all were necessary. My ND swears by the Detox Max. It's ridiculously

>expensive, and she suggested if possible to eliminate all the other

>supplements if it helped me afford the Detox Max.

>

>(Here's a link to one place selling the DTM:

>http://www.drkulacz.com/contents/store/19.htm. My ND's price is $40/btl and

>I managed to talk her into a quantity discount.)

Thanks for the info on Detox Max. Re chlorella, I've heard so many different

stories about it, ranging from it being beneficial to neutral to harmful for

mercury detox. Too bad there's not more consensus on these issues!

--------------------->I've never actually seen anything say chlorella was

harmful for mercury detox. I've only seen stuff saying it's beneficial.

[Guest guest]

> ------------->The naturopath does " point testing " with her " Body

Scan 2010 " > machine. I don't know exactly what the tests are. The

machine has the> electromagnetic resonance or something like that of

hundreds of substances.> My reaction to them is measured. Then

supplements are added to a plate on> the machine, and supposedly

their " frequency " combined with my own gives a> different reading,

and the ND can tell if the supplements would benefit me.

> It's all very high-tech seeming, yet kind of quacky at the same

time. Anyone> else know more about the Body Scan?

>

>

Sounds totally quacky to me.

[Guest guest]

> RE: Chlorella

>

>

>

>>I had all my mercury fillings (9) replaced with composites this

>>Jan-Feb. The

>>dentist gave me a book on mercury detox protocol which involved 15-20

>>different supplements (vitamins, minerals, chlorella, amino acids). In

>>addition, my naturopath had me take " Detox Max " an oral EDTA supplement.

>>

>>I went to the ND recently for point testing and my mercury

>reading had gone

>>from 100 to 15 (goal is zero) since it was tested before I began the

>>replacements in January.

>

>Jill, what type of test(s) did you do pre- and post-removal?

>

>------------->The naturopath does " point testing " with her " Body Scan 2010 "

>machine. I don't know exactly what the tests are. The machine has the

>electromagnetic resonance or something like that of hundreds of substances.

>My reaction to them is measured. Then supplements are added to a plate on

>the machine, and supposedly their " frequency " combined with my own gives a

>different reading, and the ND can tell if the supplements would benefit me.

>It's all very high-tech seeming, yet kind of quacky at the same

>time.

Jill, what I actually wanted to know is what kind of test the ND performed

to test your *mercury* levels, not what supplements work for you. Sorry, I

should've been clearer.

>Thanks for the info on Detox Max. Re chlorella, I've heard so many

>different

>stories about it, ranging from it being beneficial to neutral to

>harmful for

>mercury detox. Too bad there's not more consensus on these issues!

>

>--------------------->I've never actually seen anything say chlorella was

>harmful for mercury detox. I've only seen stuff saying it's beneficial.

I think I've seen everything about it - good, bad and not enough evidence

that it's good. That's what Andy Cutler says, anyways.

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[Guest guest]

Try using the new search vehicle: http://onibasu.com/

Type in chlorella in the search box, make sure you put a check in the Autism

Mercury box below and hit search.

For example:

Chlorella does not bind heavy metals much better than you do, so it

only stirs them around.

It is an observed fact that many people become severely worse using

chlorella for " detox. "

While chlorella does not bind mercury and other heavy metals any

better than your body, it DOES bind them better than rocks, soil and

water so there is a substantial risk of GETTING TOXIC from eating

contaminated chlorella. I have seen numerous tests where someone

suddenly shows up with this or that heavy metal after using chlorella

when they did not have any conceivable other source of exposure.

" lot analyzed " chlorella isn't safe from the above problem because the

lot may be a whole pond full, while the contaminated stuff may be

growing on a particular rock so that a few bottles are bad but the

whole lot, on average, is OK.

One of the specific ones I saw was a woman whose hair bismuth went

from not detected to more than +2 standard deviations in a few months

while taking chlorella. That particular chlorella was grown in the

area of germany where they mine bismuth. She otherwise had no

exposure. The lot analysis said the chlorella was fine, but there was

no other possible source and she got a LOT of it in her (and got a lot

worse taking the chlorella).

Chlorella is especially bad for people with high " sulfur. "

Chlorella does not in any way assist with or accelerate detox. There

is absolutely no benefit to using it, so there is no point in taking

the risk of it making you worse.

[ ] Chlorella

Hi folks

Anyone had any sucess with chlorella?

Richy

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

In my opinion it is a bad idea as it makes many people worse. Some

it does help but it is not worth the risk.

TK

>

> Hi folks

> Anyone had any sucess with chlorella?

> Richy

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi folks

> Anyone had any sucess with chlorella?

> Richy

No, but a lot of people get horribly permanently worse with it.

Andy . . .. . . . . . . .

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/16/2005 8:57:49 AM Central Daylight Time,

lovasm@... writes:

> His behaviour is getting worser

> since he is using Chlorella.In last some days he is agressive too. It

> can be caused by Chlorella??

My son did absolutely horribly on Primal Defense when that product contained

chlorella. I was told this could be because chlorella can more metals around

in the body, causing additional harm. It took several months for my son to

return to his " normal " after I stopped giving him Primal Defense. This may have

been the worst supplement I have ever given him.

Debbie

[Guest guest]

> My autistic son /13/ is useing Chlorella Cessleri since 3 Months.We

> are on the GFCF diet since 2,5 years.His behaviour is getting worser

> since he is using Chlorella.In last some days he is agressive too. It

> can be caused by Chlorella??

I have read stories about kids regressing with chlorella. Try

removing it for a few weeks, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> I was reading an old post http://onibasu.com/archives/am/377.htm.

The post states that in regards to chelation " anything involving

chlorella or large amounts of sulfur foods like eggs, broccoli,

onions, etc " should never be used.

>Can someone/anyone explain why " chlorella " should not be used??

>

Chlorella is like a high sulfur food. The single thiol groups grab

mercury weakly, move it around a bit without helping to remove it, and

make most poisoned people, especially the ones who are already high in

cysteine, feel much worse.

Boyd Haley found that some chlorella that is sold contains mercury,

presumably because it is grown in mercury containing waters.

J

> Thanks,

> Tammy B

>

>

>

>

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> >

> > I was reading an old post http://onibasu.com/archives/am/377.htm.

> The post states that in regards to chelation " anything involving

> chlorella or large amounts of sulfur foods like eggs, broccoli,

> onions, etc " should never be used.

>

>

>

> >Can someone/anyone explain why " chlorella " should not be used??

> >

>

>

> Chlorella is like a high sulfur food. The single thiol groups grab

> mercury weakly, move it around a bit without helping to remove it,

and

> make most poisoned people, especially the ones who are already high

in

> cysteine, feel much worse.

>

> Boyd Haley found that some chlorella that is sold contains mercury,

> presumably because it is grown in mercury containing waters.

>

> J

>

>

>

>

> > Thanks,

> > Tammy B

> >

> >

> > Holy crap I had been giving my son chlorella for a while during

his foot detoxes. It makes sense that the stuff is grown in water

that contains mercury! Geez... it seems like everything we try to do

turns out to be harmful. I wish we could just go to a different

planet FREE OF TOXINS and then try to help our kids....

> >

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[Guest guest]

We also made the mistake of using Chlorella (after foot detox baths)

and then again recently and both times my son regressed so I am sure

now that it was the chlorella. Does anyone have a good list of

sulfur foods to avoid, and now what??? Obviously there has been

some redistribution of metals and I am trying to figure out the best

way to safely remove them.......

> > >

> > > I was reading an old post

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/377.htm.

> > The post states that in regards to chelation " anything involving

> > chlorella or large amounts of sulfur foods like eggs, broccoli,

> > onions, etc " should never be used.

> >

> >

> >

> > >Can someone/anyone explain why " chlorella " should not be used??

> > >

> >

> >

> > Chlorella is like a high sulfur food. The single thiol groups

grab

> > mercury weakly, move it around a bit without helping to remove

it,

> and

> > make most poisoned people, especially the ones who are already

high

> in

> > cysteine, feel much worse.

> >

> > Boyd Haley found that some chlorella that is sold contains

mercury,

> > presumably because it is grown in mercury containing waters.

> >

> > J

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Tammy B

> > >

> > >

> > > Holy crap I had been giving my son chlorella for a while

during

> his foot detoxes. It makes sense that the stuff is grown in water

> that contains mercury! Geez... it seems like everything we try to

do

> turns out to be harmful. I wish we could just go to a different

> planet FREE OF TOXINS and then try to help our kids....

> > >

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[Guest guest]

>

> Has anyone ever tried this?

Yes. Many have.

>It's a natural blue-green algae

> supplement that has chelating properties..

No it doesn't.

>.thinking it trying it on my daughter.

Don't do it.

Don't give chlorella to anyone.

Don't see doctors who recommend it.

Don't believe anything you hear from sources that suggest using it.

> Thanks,

> Janna

>

[Guest guest]

We use chlorella to " mop up " mercury in the blood and bile. My

understanding is that it will bind to what's loose in blood and bile but

will not pull, i.e. chelate, from organs. As such, it still has a real

place in treatment, since loose mercury is doubly dangerous.

Redistribution during chelation is bad news. It's critical that the

chlorella be rigorously tested to know that it itself is free of mercury and

doesn't bring mercury INTO the body. We use the E-Lyte brand and I believe

there is a source in Germany that has been equally stringently tested.

Perhaps others, too. All the above is my understanding after considerable

reading, but I'm a parent, not a doctor, chemist or nutritionist.

I know Andy is opposed to chlorella. It's one of those areas where experts

differ and I'm open to changing my mind with more information. However, as

a starting point, purity is critical.

Abigail

[Guest guest]

>

> We use chlorella to " mop up " mercury in the blood and bile.

> My

> understanding is that it will bind to what's loose in blood and bile

This is a false rumour that has been circulating.

To find out that the rumour is false a person can try to trace it back

to the source. If there was any truth there would be some scientific

documentation. There is none.

>but

> will not pull, i.e. chelate, from organs. As such, it still has a

>real

> place in treatment,

> since loose mercury is doubly dangerous.

> Redistribution during chelation is bad news.

Yes, loose mercury is double dangerous and redistribution is bad news.

That's another good reason not to rely on something like chlorella

that doesn't chelate and actually makes most mercury toxic people much

worse (check archives and you will find that almost every adult who

has used chlorella has reported some negative side effects).

It's critical that the

> chlorella be rigorously tested to know that it itself is free of

mercury and

> doesn't bring mercury INTO the body. We use the E-Lyte brand and I

believe

> there is a source in Germany that has been equally stringently tested.

> Perhaps others, too. All the above is my understanding after

considerable

> reading, but I'm a parent, not a doctor, chemist or nutritionist.

>

> I know Andy is opposed to chlorella.

> It's one of those areas where experts

> differ and I'm open to changing my mind with more information.

It's difficult to find more information about a topic that didn't

really have any solid (scientific) information to back it up in the

first place. It is the companies who are profiting from the sale of

chlorella who need to come up with information and they can't because

they have none.

This is my understanding from taking a quick look at the research

papers that the proponents of chlorella refer to.

The idea that chlorella might help with heavy metal removal comes from

testing it for that use in aquatic ecosystems. In an aquatic

environment, like a pond for example, some mercury does bind to

chlorella and would be expected to because the chlorella would contain

some single thiol (SH) groups and the water would not compete. The

research that has been done with chlorella in aquatic environments is

limited.

From that someone got the brain wave to use chlorella to remove metals

from the human body. The human body is way more complex than and

different from an aquatic ecosystem and there are lots and lots of

complex molecules that hold on to the mercury, thus the single thiols

of chlorella would not be even expected to hold on tightly enough to

move mercury much. The brain wave was never really tested it just

turned into rumour or gossip that has been perpetuated, mostly by

companies that profit from the sale of chlorella, and from them

repeating the rumour to gullible practitioners and clients.

I was tricked by the hype too shortly after amalgam removal before I

started to investigate.

J

> > However, as

> a starting point, purity is critical.

>

> Abigail

>

[Guest guest]

> All the above is my understanding after considerable

> reading, but I'm a parent, not a doctor, chemist or nutritionist.

Do you have links to any reading that isn't at a website that sells

chlorella?

Nell

[Guest guest]

Hmmm.... will do some research.....when I can make the time *sigh*.

Abbie

[Guest guest]

chlorella does not bind metals for removal. It will not help with

redistribution but will cause it. As in Andy's previous reply. It

will stir up mercury but will not remove it.

There are other things you can do to minimize redistribution that

are safer. Such as proper protocol, activated charcoal, a lot of

vitamins/minerals. There are not studies showing this stuff is safe

or that it chelates anything.

I would not warn so cautiously if I had not tried it myself based on

misinformation. Thinking I could chelate Hg naturally without using

dmsa or dmps or ala. I was wrong. I got very sick on this stuff.

I definitely would not give it to my kids. I got the most horrible

headache of my life when I took this, brain fog, nauseau, shaky,

felt like I might faint at any moment. I felt very sick.

Redistribution is a minimal risk when following proper protocol and

supplements. Andy is a chemist and has stated that chlorella has NO

metal chelating properties. And he is against anyone using it or

seeing a doctor who advocates the use of it.

>

> We use chlorella to " mop up " mercury in the blood and bile. My

> understanding is that it will bind to what's loose in blood and

bile but

> will not pull, i.e. chelate, from organs. As such, it still has a

real

> place in treatment, since loose mercury is doubly dangerous.

> Redistribution during chelation is bad news. It's critical that

the

> chlorella be rigorously tested to know that it itself is free of

mercury and

> doesn't bring mercury INTO the body. We use the E-Lyte brand and

I believe

> there is a source in Germany that has been equally stringently

tested.

> Perhaps others, too. All the above is my understanding after

considerable

> reading, but I'm a parent, not a doctor, chemist or nutritionist.

>

> I know Andy is opposed to chlorella. It's one of those areas

where experts

> differ and I'm open to changing my mind with more information.

However, as

> a starting point, purity is critical.

>

> Abigail

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dianne,I've been taking Sun Chlorella (from Japan) which I bought from Wild Oats. I take 15 tiny tablets with each meal. Dr. Kolb and Dr. Mercola both recommend it for detoxing mercury. Here's a link regarding benefits http://www.naturalways.com/chlor04.htmI haven't noticed much difference yet but it probably takes time.

I don't know if implants have mercury in them. I had five amalgams and was eating a ton of fish. Have you had any vaccinations or flu shots in the last few years? - PH

>> Has anyone ever tried Chlorella????> > I am struggling with symptoms again and have just tested positive for > Mercury, I have no Dental fillings so i am presuming the Mercury has > come from those toxic bags.> > Tnanks> Dianne>

[Guest guest]

Implants do not have mercury in them. The heavy metals that are used

as a catalyst to solidify the silicone into a gel or polymer shell

are most often tin, platinum and perhaps nickel or a few other

metals, but not mercury.

Our mercury exposures come mostly likely from dental amalgam vapors

given off with chewing, and from seafoods contaminated from coastal

waters.

Patty

>

>

> Hi Dianne,

> I've been taking Sun Chlorella (from Japan) which I bought from Wild

> Oats. I take 15 tiny tablets with each meal. Dr. Kolb and Dr.

Mercola

> both recommend it for detoxing mercury. Here's a link regarding

> benefits http://www.naturalways.com/chlor04.htm

> <http://www.naturalways.com/chlor04.htm>

> I haven't noticed much difference yet but it probably takes time.

>

> I don't know if implants have mercury in them. I had five amalgams

and

> was eating a ton of fish. Have you had any vaccinations or flu

shots in

> the last few years? - PH

>

>

>

>

> --- In , " dianneuk1 " <dianneuk1@>

wrote:

> >

> > Has anyone ever tried Chlorella????

> >

> > I am struggling with symptoms again and have just tested positive

for

> > Mercury, I have no Dental fillings so i am presuming the Mercury

has

> > come from those toxic bags.

> >

> > Tnanks

> > Dianne

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue

I did a heavy metal hometesting kit off the internet,

i am seeing my Rheumatologist this week and am going

to ask her if she will retest me. I think she will as

she thinks it is strange that all my symptoms occurred

after i was implanted.

She is based at North Manchester General Hospital and

is very nice and understanding. She doesn't look at

me like i am bonkers which is good.

Thanks

Dianne

--- Sue Gibbens <susan.gibbens@...> wrote:

> Dianne.

>

> I am interested in what kind of consultant you are

> seeing, who has given you

> a mercury test?

>

> I am interested as I live in England and apart from

> a nauropath I have not

> found anyone in the medial field who believes

> anything I say to do with

> silicone.

>

> Thanks for the help

>

> Sue

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From:

> [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of Dianne Cashmore

> Sent: 02 November 2007 15:03

>

> Subject: Re: Re: CHLORELLA

>

>

>

> OK Thank you ladies i will get retested. I am due to

> see my consultant this Thursday so i will discuss it

> with her. Thanks again Dianne

> --- Rogene <saxony01 (DOT)

> <mailto:saxony01%40> com> wrote:

>

> > Dianne,

> >

> > Even fluorescent lights have Mercury in them.

> >

> > When I was a kid, we played with the Mercury from

> > broken thermometers - with our father! . . .

> >

> > Now, when a thermometer breaks, they close a

> school

> > until the spill has been cleaned up by a bio-mat

> > team . . .

> >

> > Unless your test was in error, you must have come

> > across Mercury from some source you didn't

> recognize

> > . . .

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

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