Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yes - I have had palpitations for quite a while before and after explant. I am happy for you that you are explanting and close to being on the road to recovery!!! shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi there, Yes, I had heart palpitations, and believe they were associated with my thyroid malfunction. They were pretty frightening, as it almost felt like my heart had stopped for a few seconds. I have not had them in quite some time. I would suggest magnesium in larger doses, moderate exercise if you can handle it, (such as walking), and appropriate testing for thyroid issues including the anti-TPO antibodies, which are necessary to diagnose Hashimoto's. Many doctors will do a simple TSH test or T3/T4 and when that comes up normal, skip the other. But you can't diagnose autoimmune thyroid disease without the antibody test. Congratulations on your upcoming explant! That is the best thing you can do for yourself to get back on the road to recovery. I am very happy for you...and I know how anxious we can get about surgery, but relax and trust that you are doing the right thing and will soon begin to feel relief from many of your symptoms. Take care, Patty > I am going to have my explantation on Jan 19. Of late, I have noticed > palpitations...anyone else have these problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I had terrible palpatations when I got sick from my implants. To the tune of over 300 a day and a heart rate up to 140 beats per minute. After I got the explant and started on antibiotic therapy, my heart slowly returned to normal. I hardly ever get them anymore. But palpatations can occur for a variety or reasons, many pretty benign. Many many women get them off and on. HOpefully your explant will make them go away! You must be excited that you don't have that much longer to wait! Hugs,kathy > I am going to have my explantation on Jan 19. Of late, I have noticed > palpitations...anyone else have these problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 I think this means your adrenals are stressed. DHEA, glandulars and cortisol might help. Peatfield writes about supporting adrenals for 6-24 months to heal them, but there are some peeps who must stay on cortisol (like me). My problem is probably adrenal hyperplasia, which means I need thyroid, adrenal and sex hormones. Gracia > I'd be interested in your thoughts on palpitations - I've been taking > Naturethroid 3 grains daily... was getting a fair amount of palpitations, > especially at night, so decreased it to 2 grains a day and ended up getting > totally wiped out and fatigued, temperature down to 96... so went back up to > 3 grains, and as my energy levels are starting to come back to a more normal > level (still not great, but can at least do some things)... the palpitations > are back. > > I've been taking vitamins and mineral supplements, including magensium, but > it doesn't seem to make much difference... any suggestions on what might be > helpful, I obviously really need to have at least the 3 grains a day. (On 2 > grains I had virtually no palpitations.) > > I don't drink any coffee and very little tea, and stick to noncaffeinated > beverages... so caffeine isn't an issue, also there is no unusal stress.... > the palpitations seem to be very clearly correlated to the thyroid dose... > would appreciate any thoughts on managing them. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Have you considered supplementing the 2 grains of Armour with a synthetic T4? Sometimes the palpitations are due to too much T3 and Armour has higher T3 in it. When I discontinued synthetic T3 my palpitations went away completely. I have not had any problems since. Sherry > I'd be interested in your thoughts on palpitations - I've been taking > Naturethroid 3 grains daily... was getting a fair amount of palpitations, > especially at night, so decreased it to 2 grains a day and ended up getting > totally wiped out and fatigued, temperature down to 96... so went back up to > 3 grains, and as my energy levels are starting to come back to a more normal > level (still not great, but can at least do some things)... the palpitations > are back. > > I've been taking vitamins and mineral supplements, including magensium, but > it doesn't seem to make much difference... any suggestions on what might be > helpful, I obviously really need to have at least the 3 grains a day. (On 2 > grains I had virtually no palpitations.) > > I don't drink any coffee and very little tea, and stick to noncaffeinated > beverages... so caffeine isn't an issue, also there is no unusal stress.... > the palpitations seem to be very clearly correlated to the thyroid dose... > would appreciate any thoughts on managing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Cortisol is involved in many important functions in your body, including the metabolism and utilization of proteins, carbohydrates, and fats, your body's response to physiological or Psychological stress, and the control of inflammation and proper blood sugar levels. Cortical also helps maintain proper blood pressure, normal nerve and brain activity, and Normal HEART and immune function. DHEA also plays a role in the metabolism of protein, carbs and fats, and works WITH cortisol to help maintain proper blood sugar levels. DHEA helps regulate body weight, blood pressure and immune function, and is used by the body to make hormones testosterone and estradiol. It is important that these two hormones be in balance with each other as not to promote illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 I need to find a doctor that will work with me. Both of my doctors refuse and I mean refuse to take me off synthroid and try armour. Can anyone help me locate a doctor in Illinois that is a good listener as I have been on Synthroid for eight years and can't lose weight, leg cramps, breathing issues....so is Synthroid working? Thank you Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. Help is very much appreciated!! SJO :0) -------------- Original message -------------- From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 ADRENALS ADRENALS ADRENALS A good site about adrenals: http://www.fudgedesign.co.uk/tuk/faq.htm#q29 also look at this chart: http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp > Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... > For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp > episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night > sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in > the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually > adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. > It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. > Help is very much appreciated!! > SJO :0) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> > Hi everyone, > > I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't > remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least > once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to > bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. > It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so > what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and > I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 OK, OK, none of those links work. But I'll go online somewhere and order some Isocort. I'll need some advice on how to begin taking it, from all you experienced hypos. As for Iodoral, I'm already taking these iodine drops, Liqui-Kelp, of World Organics Brand, wouldn't that be the same thing? I don't want to overdose on iodine either! Re: Palpitations ADRENALS ADRENALS ADRENALS A good site about adrenals: http://www.fudgedesign.co.uk/tuk/faq.htm#q29 also look at this chart: http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp > Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... > For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp > episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night > sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in > the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually > adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. > It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. > Help is very much appreciated!! > SJO :0) > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> > Hi everyone, > > I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't > remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least > once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to > bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. > It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so > what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and > I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 nmsjoy, I'm taking Armour, but no extra T3. Right now I'm taking 120 mg of Armour, although my doc said to take 90 mg. All you guys on this chat line keep telling me, telling us, that " you have to get ENOUGH Armour " . So maybe if I back off again, and start taking " adrenal support " in addition to less Armour, things will get better. Re: Palpitations Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. Help is very much appreciated!! SJO :0) -------------- Original message -------------- From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 120mg is really not that much Armour, you may need more. Adrenal meds like cortef and DHEA help to move T3 into tissues, not just swimming around in the blood. You cna get heart palps from too little Armour as well as low adrenals. Also I have read that iodine helps adrenals and T3. Brownstein MD found that 93% of his thyroid patients already on meds had iodine deficiency. gracia > nmsjoy, > > I'm taking Armour, but no extra T3. Right now I'm taking 120 mg of Armour, > although my doc said to take 90 mg. All you guys on this chat line keep > telling me, telling us, that " you have to get ENOUGH Armour " . So maybe if > I back off again, and start taking " adrenal support " in addition to less > Armour, things will get better. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 I just tried the links and they worked for me ?????? I don't care much for isocort but it might be helpful. Just go by the directions that come with it. It is " lite " so don't worry. Buy some pharmaceutical grade DHEA. Believe me, you can't OD on iodine drops. I am taking 50mg iodine/iodide/day. You might be taking too little however. Gracia > OK, OK, none of those links work. But I'll go online somewhere and order > some Isocort. I'll need some advice on how to begin taking it, from all > you experienced hypos. As for Iodoral, I'm already taking these iodine > drops, Liqui-Kelp, of World Organics Brand, wouldn't that be the same > thing? I don't want to overdose on iodine either! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Thanks, I'll try those links again. Sometimes my computer acts up. What do you mean DHEA pharmaceutical grade? I buy it at the health food store, they come in 25 mg capsules, brand is Natrol. I take one a day. And you keep saying " buy Armour online " , but how? Where? I would love to, then I could get the size pill I want, and (pay less?) than at the drug store. Thanks, Re: Palpitations I just tried the links and they worked for me ?????? I don't care much for isocort but it might be helpful. Just go by the directions that come with it. It is " lite " so don't worry. Buy some pharmaceutical grade DHEA. Believe me, you can't OD on iodine drops. I am taking 50mg iodine/iodide/day. You might be taking too little however. Gracia > OK, OK, none of those links work. But I'll go online somewhere and order > some Isocort. I'll need some advice on how to begin taking it, from all > you experienced hypos. As for Iodoral, I'm already taking these iodine > drops, Liqui-Kelp, of World Organics Brand, wouldn't that be the same > thing? I don't want to overdose on iodine either! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Gracia, what do you think about adding a little bit of Synthroid to the Armour? I have this big bottle of Synthroid 100 mg left " from the old days " . By adding Synthroid, (T4 only) I would theoretically be increasing the amount of T4, thereby changing the ratio of T4/T3 more toward what Dr. Hertoghe recommends, or whoever it was who said it should be 98% T4 and 2% T3. I've read so many books lately and read so much on this chat line, I can't remember what, where, when, anymore. . Re: Palpitations 120mg is really not that much Armour, you may need more. Adrenal meds like cortef and DHEA help to move T3 into tissues, not just swimming around in the blood. You cna get heart palps from too little Armour as well as low adrenals. Also I have read that iodine helps adrenals and T3. Brownstein MD found that 93% of his thyroid patients already on meds had iodine deficiency. gracia > nmsjoy, > > I'm taking Armour, but no extra T3. Right now I'm taking 120 mg of Armour, > although my doc said to take 90 mg. All you guys on this chat line keep > telling me, telling us, that " you have to get ENOUGH Armour " . So maybe if > I back off again, and start taking " adrenal support " in addition to less > Armour, things will get better. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 I really don't think you need to add T4! Catarina from Belgium does this I think but Blanchard is the one who recommends 98/2% ratio. I just don't think it's necessary b/c T3 is the feel good hormoen and T4 is storage. Better to raise your Armour. gracia > Gracia, what do you think about adding a little bit of Synthroid to the > Armour? I have this big bottle of Synthroid 100 mg left " from the old > days " . By adding Synthroid, (T4 only) I would theoretically be increasing > the amount of T4, thereby changing the ratio of T4/T3 more toward what Dr. > Hertoghe recommends, or whoever it was who said it should be 98% T4 and 2% > T3. I've read so many books lately and read so much on this chat line, I > can't remember what, where, when, anymore. . > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Oh I am not sure how Natrol compares to Enzymatic Therapy. It should say pharmaceutical grade on the label. DHEA dose for women is usally 5-15mg. I will send you info about Armour, isocort etc. but you will pay more b/c of shipping. Drug store should have every size pill. Gracia > Thanks, I'll try those links again. Sometimes my computer acts up. What do > you mean DHEA pharmaceutical grade? I buy it at the health food store, > they come in 25 mg capsules, brand is Natrol. I take one a day. And you > keep saying " buy Armour online " , but how? Where? I would love to, then I > could get the size pill I want, and (pay less?) than at the drug store. > Thanks, -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Yes I agree with Gracia - it sounds adrenal to me too - I don't get the palps much anymore but when I do it can feel that it is a misplaced stress response - when our adrenals are imbalanced we get the signals mixed up and the smallest shocks to the body (like waking in the night) can be interpreted by the adrenals as a big fright. This is how I experience it and somehow just being that much aware of what is happening I my body relaxes me and I can see more clearly what to do. It may mean taking cortef which I do from time to time or it may mean changing my diet or other habits which my body is reading as stress. If your body is feeling stressed at being woken in the night it could be that you really badly need unbroken sleep - in this case for example you might need to stop drinking at the right time in the afternoon if peeing is your problem or take melatonin to keep you deeply asleep if light sleep is the issue. Sleep is such a big deal for all of us because without rest we don't have the energy to follow through on all the things we learn on forums like this. It may seem impossible to get back to an unbroken night's sleep but it is worth trying - for the record having to urinate frequently or during the night is also an adrenal symptom. I had it BAD but it has stopped as my adrenals have been healing. Regards, Kerry Palpitations Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 HI - I understand your frustration - it is so hard to do this with such little professional help. I have seen many posts over the past few years from sensitive people like yourself who just have to go very carefully with their bodies. Do you keep a health log? I do think the adrenal support will help and also do you have lifestyle issues that may be standing in the way of your healing? These things stress the adrenals as surely as overworking .Kerry Re: Palpitations nmsjoy, I'm taking Armour, but no extra T3. Right now I'm taking 120 mg of Armour, although my doc said to take 90 mg. All you guys on this chat line keep telling me, telling us, that " you have to get ENOUGH Armour " . So maybe if I back off again, and start taking " adrenal support " in addition to less Armour, things will get better. Re: Palpitations Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. Help is very much appreciated!! SJO :0) -------------- Original message -------------- From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Thank you, -- That's what confuses me--if I add more of the Armour, even if it's only 10 mg, my heart palps increase considerably. I'm on 45mg now. I started taking 60 mg back in Dec/Jan, and had to stop in Feb. I just couldn't take it any more. So, I dropped down to just 30mg to get a break, and the palps stopped almost immediately, and that affect lasted for about 10 days. Then the palps started again. Since I didn't want to risk improperly supporting the thyroid, I did increase the dose to 45mg about 3 weeks ago. According to recent labs, 45 is not enough, and I am well aware that we are not treating to labs, but to symptoms. My provider actually supports this method of treatment. Well, the episodes increased. The tinnitis also intensifies with each increase. My ears have never stopped ringing for about 6 years. Sometimes it's louder in one ear, both ears, intermittently. My brain fog has ever so slightly decreased, the depression has also very slightly decreased. I still get fatigued and by the 2pm mark, I'm pretty much ready to start slowing down. By 6 pm, I'm down for the night. I often force myself to do the dishes or go to a mtg. I usually end up paying for it later. CAn anyone tell me how increasing the dose would alleviate the palps if every time I do it makes them more frequent? Thank you!! Steph SJO :0) --------- Re: Palpitations Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. Help is very much appreciated!! SJO :0) -------------- Original message -------------- From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Steph I was just reading back through your posts and I couldn't see if you have tried a t4 only med - have you and if so what was the response? And have you tried cortef or not? sorry can't remember. Clearly something is in the way of your body taking in the hormone you need - something that needs to be addressed first - aside from the physical possibly which we explore fairly well here - do you have unresolved emotional or life issues that might be in he way? K Re: Palpitations Thank you, -- That's what confuses me--if I add more of the Armour, even if it's only 10 mg, my heart palps increase considerably. I'm on 45mg now. I started taking 60 mg back in Dec/Jan, and had to stop in Feb. I just couldn't take it any more. So, I dropped down to just 30mg to get a break, and the palps stopped almost immediately, and that affect lasted for about 10 days. Then the palps started again. Since I didn't want to risk improperly supporting the thyroid, I did increase the dose to 45mg about 3 weeks ago. According to recent labs, 45 is not enough, and I am well aware that we are not treating to labs, but to symptoms. My provider actually supports this method of treatment. Well, the episodes increased. The tinnitis also intensifies with each increase. My ears have never stopped ringing for about 6 years. Sometimes it's louder in one ear, both ears, intermittently. My brain fog has ever so slightly decreased, the depression has also very slightly decreased. I still get fatigued and by the 2pm mark, I'm pretty much ready to start slowing down. By 6 pm, I'm down for the night. I often force myself to do the dishes or go to a mtg. I usually end up paying for it later. CAn anyone tell me how increasing the dose would alleviate the palps if every time I do it makes them more frequent? Thank you!! Steph SJO :0) --------- Re: Palpitations Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. Help is very much appreciated!! SJO :0) -------------- Original message -------------- From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 if you can't tolerate enough Armour, then you need cortef plus DHEA. http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp Gracia > Thank you, -- > That's what confuses me--if I add more of the Armour, even if it's only 10 > mg, my heart palps increase considerably. I'm on 45mg now. I started > taking 60 mg back in Dec/Jan, and had to stop in Feb. I just couldn't take > it any more. So, I dropped down to just 30mg to get a break, and the palps > stopped almost immediately, and that affect lasted for about 10 days. Then > the palps started again. Since I didn't want to risk improperly supporting > the thyroid, I did increase the dose to 45mg about 3 weeks ago. According > to recent labs, 45 is not enough, and I am well aware that we are not > treating to labs, but to symptoms. My provider actually supports this > method of treatment. Well, the episodes increased. The tinnitis also > intensifies with each increase. My ears have never stopped ringing for > about 6 years. Sometimes it's louder in one ear, both ears, > intermittently. My brain fog has ever so slightly decreased, the > depression has also very slightly decreased. I still get fatigued and by > the 2pm mark, I'm pretty much ready to start slowing down. By 6 pm, I'm > down for the night. I often force myself to do the dishes or go to a mtg. > I usually end up paying for it later. CAn anyone tell me how increasing > the dose would alleviate the palps if every time I do it makes them more > frequent? Thank you!! > Steph SJO :0) > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 What are your Free T3 and Free T4 levels? You could be going hyper on the current dose of thyroxine.. Another reason could be adrenal related.. and Mark <koplyn@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Please look into lymes disease. I am finding that a lot of my symptoms are tied to it. On , they have a lyme strategies group if youre interested. It is facinating how the lymes will attack the thryroid and heart, well according to this natropath I consulted with. Blessings! nmsjoy@... wrote: Thank you, -- That's what confuses me--if I add more of the Armour, even if it's only 10 mg, my heart palps increase considerably. I'm on 45mg now. I started taking 60 mg back in Dec/Jan, and had to stop in Feb. I just couldn't take it any more. So, I dropped down to just 30mg to get a break, and the palps stopped almost immediately, and that affect lasted for about 10 days. Then the palps started again. Since I didn't want to risk improperly supporting the thyroid, I did increase the dose to 45mg about 3 weeks ago. According to recent labs, 45 is not enough, and I am well aware that we are not treating to labs, but to symptoms. My provider actually supports this method of treatment. Well, the episodes increased. The tinnitis also intensifies with each increase. My ears have never stopped ringing for about 6 years. Sometimes it's louder in one ear, both ears, intermittently. My brain fog has ever so slightly decreased, the depression has also very slightly decreased. I still get fatigued and by the 2pm mark, I'm pretty much ready to start slowing down. By 6 pm, I'm down for the night. I often force myself to do the dishes or go to a mtg. I usually end up paying for it later. CAn anyone tell me how increasing the dose would alleviate the palps if every time I do it makes them more frequent? Thank you!! Steph SJO :0) --------- Re: Palpitations Boy, do I hear that?! This sounds like me, also. It is a great mystery... For me, I found as soon as I increased the armour, just a little, the palp episodes increased. My cardiologist finds no problems either. A good night sleep would be such a blessing... Also, T3 causes a dramatic increase in the palp episodes for me. I've been told that your body does eventually adjust, but, sorry to say, I've had palps since the year 2000. It's been about that long since I've had an uninterrupted night sleep. Help is very much appreciated!! SJO :0) -------------- Original message -------------- From: " and Mark " <koplyn@...> Hi everyone, I've heard some of you talk about these heart palpitations, but can't remember if it's a symptom of hypo or hyper. I usually wake up at least once during the night to go to the bathroom, and then when I get back to bed, and try to get back to sleep, I get these palpitations for a while. It's not like I a ran a half marathon to cause my increased heart rate, so what is it? My cardiologist can't find anything wrong with my heart, and I've had all possible tests in that department. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 H Gracia, Would you be kind enough to email me off list with recommendations for an online pharmacy that does not require a prescription. I have been lurking on this list for quite some time and gathering as much information as necessary. I have been on Synthroid for over 8 years, My endo just does TSH and every eight months to a year has gradually increased my Synthroid. I am now on 275 mcg of Synthroid and my Tsh is still 7.4 which my endo thinks is an improvement. I have discussed getting a script for armour but she says she will not prescribe armour as she thinks it is an inferior medication. I have tried to get a prescription from my GP to no avail. I was thinking of ordering armour from the UK but I wonder if it will pass customs. We are also planning a trip to Mexico in about 2 weeks and my husband thought I might be able to purchase it there but it may have a different name in Mexico. Does anyone have any knowledge regarding this? I have been on Synrthroid for over 8 years and have never felt any better, I continue to gain weight even when I am on Atkins and a decreased calorie intake. I discussed this with my endo who told me to go to weight watchers. I told her I had been to weight watchers and their diet plan made me gain weight. I am so frustrated. I > will send you info about Armour, isocort etc. but > you will pay more b/c of > shipping. Drug store should have every size pill. > Gracia __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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