Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 yes, I had heard on the news about all the parties... it is always nice to hear people having fun and coming together. I don't agree with lots of things politically here in the US either, so I can imagine what you mean. I did buy some pesticide. We are getting solar winds, winds caused by the sun's activity, so those will have to die down before we spray. Hope you are doing okay and your feet. How is your little dog?From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:21:04 AMSubject: Re: lindaGood luck !!Hope helps!Street parties,all over UK today ,60 yr queen reignIm not a royalist but nice to see people coming together in community!:-)------------------------------On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 22:40 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>I did buy a gallon jug today of pesticide so when the wind dies down we will spray the entire periphery of the house. Will do the Cedarcide fogging indoors. Thanks s. >>> >> [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >>Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >> >> >> >> >>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >> >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >>month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >>weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >>just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >>toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >>I can manage things now and am caught up. >> >>Thanks, >>Aandraya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Hi ! Good luck with those spiders. I had them terribly in my house. I no longer live there but could not get the under control. My bug man said they are very hard to deal with because they are the only insect that doesn't groom itself and that is when they ingest the poison. The traps sound like a great idea. I never thought to do that. Good luck!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 5, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: yes, I had heard on the news about all the parties... it is always nice to hear people having fun and coming together. I don't agree with lots of things politically here in the US either, so I can imagine what you mean. I did buy some pesticide. We are getting solar winds, winds caused by the sun's activity, so those will have to die down before we spray. Hope you are doing okay and your feet. How is your little dog?From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:21:04 AMSubject: Re: lindaGood luck !!Hope helps!Street parties,all over UK today ,60 yr queen reignIm not a royalist but nice to see people coming together in community!:-)------------------------------On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 22:40 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>I did buy a gallon jug today of pesticide so when the wind dies down we will spray the entire periphery of the house. Will do the Cedarcide fogging indoors. Thanks s. >>> >> [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >>Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >> >> >> >> >>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >> >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >>month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >>weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >>just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >>toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >>I can manage things now and am caught up. >> >>Thanks, >>Aandraya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Rush,The DE works well with spiders unless the DE gets moist. Then the spiders walk right over the DE. Even a slight fog or humidity can moisten the DE making it ineffective. I didn't want it all over the floors in the house. Been there, done that. Also hard on lungs and sinuses.Thank you for your input. I didn't know that about spiders. Does that mean that ticks and mites groom themselves? Hope all is well with you!From: "Rush" <rushtessman@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 8:34:07 AMSubject: Re: linda Hi ! Good luck with those spiders. I had them terribly in my house. I no longer live there but could not get the under control. My bug man said they are very hard to deal with because they are the only insect that doesn't groom itself and that is when they ingest the poison. The traps sound like a great idea. I never thought to do that. Good luck!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 5, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: yes, I had heard on the news about all the parties... it is always nice to hear people having fun and coming together. I don't agree with lots of things politically here in the US either, so I can imagine what you mean. I did buy some pesticide. We are getting solar winds, winds caused by the sun's activity, so those will have to die down before we spray. Hope you are doing okay and your feet. How is your little dog?From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:21:04 AMSubject: Re: lindaGood luck !!Hope helps!Street parties,all over UK today ,60 yr queen reignIm not a royalist but nice to see people coming together in community!:-)------------------------------On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 22:40 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>I did buy a gallon jug today of pesticide so when the wind dies down we will spray the entire periphery of the house. Will do the Cedarcide fogging indoors. Thanks s. >>> >> [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >>Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >> >> >> >> >>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >> >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >>month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >>weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >>just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >>toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >>I can manage things now and am caught up. >> >>Thanks, >>Aandraya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Rush-I dusted my entire car with DE, when my boyfrind saw it he asked me if I was dusting for fingerprints- he's a former police officer., My car is fine now . it sat on used throuh an entire MN winter. I aloe did the menthol crystl infusion.AandrayOn Jun 5, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: Rush,The DE works well with spiders unless the DE gets moist. Then the spiders walk right over the DE. Even a slight fog or humidity can moisten the DE making it ineffective. I didn't want it all over the floors in the house. Been there, done that. Also hard on lungs and sinuses.Thank you for your input. I didn't know that about spiders. Does that mean that ticks and mites groom themselves? Hope all is well with you!From: "Rush" <rushtessman@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 8:34:07 AMSubject: Re: linda Hi ! Good luck with those spiders. I had them terribly in my house. I no longer live there but could not get the under control. My bug man said they are very hard to deal with because they are the only insect that doesn't groom itself and that is when they ingest the poison. The traps sound like a great idea. I never thought to do that. Good luck!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 5, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Goldstein@... wrote: yes, I had heard on the news about all the parties... it is always nice to hear people having fun and coming together. I don't agree with lots of things politically here in the US either, so I can imagine what you mean. I did buy some pesticide. We are getting solar winds, winds caused by the sun's activity, so those will have to die down before we spray. Hope you are doing okay and your feet. How is your little dog?From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 6:21:04 AMSubject: Re: lindaGood luck !!Hope helps!Street parties,all over UK today ,60 yr queen reignIm not a royalist but nice to see people coming together in community!:-)------------------------------On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 22:40 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>I did buy a gallon jug today of pesticide so when the wind dies down we will spray the entire periphery of the house. Will do the Cedarcide fogging indoors. Thanks s. >>> >> [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >>Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >> >> >> >> >>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >> >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >>month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >>weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >>just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >>toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >>I can manage things now and am caught up. >> >>Thanks, >>Aandraya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>------------------------------------ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Yes sense of community nice But in a way the government atrocious these days n excluding many minority groups Conservative is unethical as far as im concerned The monarchy does bring money into the country But its such an unequal world isnt it!!! Pity u have to wait till winds die down Thanks well feet upsetting me Have go hospital dermatology tmoro Bit woried Goin to ask skin scrape Dont know if will.co operate Wunder results of elissa test Tho not overly hopeful as often false negative Little dog was running n ran into road yestrday And she banged into side car But she was ok But her heart cough bit worse Take to vet often Homeopathy herbs good food Do my best But I still feel physicaly sick after yestrday Was so woried Thank god shes ok Afraid my feet are awful still After getting rid 99 % of my life Only to still have them.under my skin Its,hard hardly having any clothes or belongings Past erased I wudnt mind if it had eradicated this But it didnt!:-( Tc x ------------------------------ On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 08:25 PDT Goldstein@... wrote: >yes, I had heard on the news about all the parties... it is always nice to hear people having fun and coming together. I don't agree with lots of things politically here in the US either, so I can imagine what you mean. I did buy some pesticide. We are getting solar winds, winds caused by the sun's activity, so those will have to die down before we spray. Hope you are doing okay and your feet. How is your little dog? > > > > > [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >>Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >> >> >> >> >>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >> >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >>month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >>weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >>just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >>toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >>I can manage things now and am caught up. >> >>Thanks, >>Aandraya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 milk thistle for liver > > > >>I thought you might want to hear what Dr. M said about the next phase of my treatment... she also believes Lyme now plays less of a role for me and the coinfections are most prominent. > >> > >> > >>1. Stay on the Rifampin- (start it again)--everyone she has put on Levaquin has started getting tendinitis. Have no idea how many patients she has used this with. > >> > >> > >>2. Double the Doxycycline dose to 200 mg 2x/day. > >> > >> > >>3. Injections of Bicillin (have first dose by her next week), and then once a week injection by husband in rump. I have everything bicillin in frig alrady for it plus syringes. > >> > >> > >>4. Fluconazole (same as Diflucan) once a day (this is usually given once a week) for a month or longer. > >> > >> > >>5. After the next 3 months of this she wants me to continue the Doxy and start taking Ivermectin. (The parasite my husband and I had taken in 2009 from Meta Metrix as an unidentified parasite is most likely what they refer to as SL1953). Testing at Fry's labs is $500, but she says everyone she has sent to Fry's labs with similar symptoms has a positive for SL1953. She says save money and start treating for it. It is a protozoan parasite. Treatment is Doxy + 1/4 tab of Ivermectin. > >> > >> > >>6. Get liver testing done frequently while doing the above. > >> > >> > >>7. We will be treating for Ehrlichia during this time. > >> > >> > >>8. She believes that the waxy substance on my face is fungal. It is not biofilm. > >> > >> > >>9. The bicillin is what she gives for people who are having severe arthritic symptoms. > >> > >> > >>10. Bicillin has to be given first by medical person; even if person thinks they are not allergic to penicillin some people react to bicillin which is a form of penicillin so have to have epinephrine for allergic reaction if that happens. > >> > >> > >>It was a productive appointment and I'm hopeful and scared about ramping it up. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Thanks Kajay. I'm doing milk thistle and dandelion... but good you mentioned it. From: "morjella" <morjella@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:28:23 PMSubject: Re: lindamilk thistle for liver > >> >>I thought you might want to hear what Dr. M said about the next phase of my treatment... she also believes Lyme now plays less of a role for me and the coinfections are most prominent. > >> > >> > >>1. Stay on the Rifampin- (start it again)--everyone she has put on Levaquin has started getting tendinitis. Have no idea how many patients she has used this with. > >> > >> > >>2. Double the Doxycycline dose to 200 mg 2x/day. > >> > >> > >>3. Injections of Bicillin (have first dose by her next week), and then once a week injection by husband in rump. I have everything bicillin in frig alrady for it plus syringes. > >> > >> > >>4. Fluconazole (same as Diflucan) once a day (this is usually given once a week) for a month or longer. > >> > >> > >>5. After the next 3 months of this she wants me to continue the Doxy and start taking Ivermectin. (The parasite my husband and I had taken in 2009 from Meta Metrix as an unidentified parasite is most likely what they refer to as SL1953). Testing at Fry's labs is $500, but she says everyone she has sent to Fry's labs with similar symptoms has a positive for SL1953. She says save money and start treating for it. It is a protozoan parasite. Treatment is Doxy + 1/4 tab of Ivermectin. > >> > >> > >>6. Get liver testing done frequently while doing the above. > >> > >> > >>7. We will be treating for Ehrlichia during this time. > >> > >> > >>8. She believes that the waxy substance on my face is fungal. It is not biofilm. > >> > >> > >>9. The bicillin is what she gives for people who are having severe arthritic symptoms. > >> > >> > >>10. Bicillin has to be given first by medical person; even if person thinks they are not allergic to penicillin some people react to bicillin which is a form of penicillin so have to have epinephrine for allergic reaction if that happens. > >> > >> > >>It was a productive appointment and I'm hopeful and scared about ramping it up. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >------------------------------------ > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Dandelion...good to know. Thanks, . ------------------------------ On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:20 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thanks Kajay. I'm doing milk thistle and dandelion... but good you mentioned it. > > Re: linda > >milk thistle for liver > > >> > >> >I thought you might want to hear what Dr. M said about the next phase of my treatment... she also believes Lyme now plays less of a role for me and the coinfections are most prominent. >> > >> > >> >1. Stay on the Rifampin- (start it again)--everyone she has put on Levaquin has started getting tendinitis. Have no idea how many patients she has used this with. >> > >> > >> >2. Double the Doxycycline dose to 200 mg 2x/day. >> > >> > >> >3. Injections of Bicillin (have first dose by her next week), and then once a week injection by husband in rump. I have everything bicillin in frig alrady for it plus syringes. >> > >> > >> >4. Fluconazole (same as Diflucan) once a day (this is usually given once a week) for a month or longer. >> > >> > >> >5. After the next 3 months of this she wants me to continue the Doxy and start taking Ivermectin. (The parasite my husband and I had taken in 2009 from Meta Metrix as an unidentified parasite is most likely what they refer to as SL1953). Testing at Fry's labs is $500, but she says everyone she has sent to Fry's labs with similar symptoms has a positive for SL1953. She says save money and start treating for it. It is a protozoan parasite. Treatment is Doxy + 1/4 tab of Ivermectin. >> > >> > >> >6. Get liver testing done frequently while doing the above. >> > >> > >> >7. We will be treating for Ehrlichia during this time. >> > >> > >> >8. She believes that the waxy substance on my face is fungal. It is not biofilm. >> > >> > >> >9. The bicillin is what she gives for people who are having severe arthritic symptoms. >> > >> > >> >10. Bicillin has to be given first by medical person; even if person thinks they are not allergic to penicillin some people react to bicillin which is a form of penicillin so have to have epinephrine for allergic reaction if that happens. >> > >> > >> >It was a productive appointment and I'm hopeful and scared about ramping it up. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Dandelion...good to know. Thanks, . ------------------------------ On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:20 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thanks Kajay. I'm doing milk thistle and dandelion... but good you mentioned it. > > Re: linda > >milk thistle for liver > > >> > >> >I thought you might want to hear what Dr. M said about the next phase of my treatment... she also believes Lyme now plays less of a role for me and the coinfections are most prominent. >> > >> > >> >1. Stay on the Rifampin- (start it again)--everyone she has put on Levaquin has started getting tendinitis. Have no idea how many patients she has used this with. >> > >> > >> >2. Double the Doxycycline dose to 200 mg 2x/day. >> > >> > >> >3. Injections of Bicillin (have first dose by her next week), and then once a week injection by husband in rump. I have everything bicillin in frig alrady for it plus syringes. >> > >> > >> >4. Fluconazole (same as Diflucan) once a day (this is usually given once a week) for a month or longer. >> > >> > >> >5. After the next 3 months of this she wants me to continue the Doxy and start taking Ivermectin. (The parasite my husband and I had taken in 2009 from Meta Metrix as an unidentified parasite is most likely what they refer to as SL1953). Testing at Fry's labs is $500, but she says everyone she has sent to Fry's labs with similar symptoms has a positive for SL1953. She says save money and start treating for it. It is a protozoan parasite. Treatment is Doxy + 1/4 tab of Ivermectin. >> > >> > >> >6. Get liver testing done frequently while doing the above. >> > >> > >> >7. We will be treating for Ehrlichia during this time. >> > >> > >> >8. She believes that the waxy substance on my face is fungal. It is not biofilm. >> > >> > >> >9. The bicillin is what she gives for people who are having severe arthritic symptoms. >> > >> > >> >10. Bicillin has to be given first by medical person; even if person thinks they are not allergic to penicillin some people react to bicillin which is a form of penicillin so have to have epinephrine for allergic reaction if that happens. >> > >> > >> >It was a productive appointment and I'm hopeful and scared about ramping it up. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Dandelion...good to know. Thanks, . ------------------------------ On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:20 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote: >Thanks Kajay. I'm doing milk thistle and dandelion... but good you mentioned it. > > Re: linda > >milk thistle for liver > > >> > >> >I thought you might want to hear what Dr. M said about the next phase of my treatment... she also believes Lyme now plays less of a role for me and the coinfections are most prominent. >> > >> > >> >1. Stay on the Rifampin- (start it again)--everyone she has put on Levaquin has started getting tendinitis. Have no idea how many patients she has used this with. >> > >> > >> >2. Double the Doxycycline dose to 200 mg 2x/day. >> > >> > >> >3. Injections of Bicillin (have first dose by her next week), and then once a week injection by husband in rump. I have everything bicillin in frig alrady for it plus syringes. >> > >> > >> >4. Fluconazole (same as Diflucan) once a day (this is usually given once a week) for a month or longer. >> > >> > >> >5. After the next 3 months of this she wants me to continue the Doxy and start taking Ivermectin. (The parasite my husband and I had taken in 2009 from Meta Metrix as an unidentified parasite is most likely what they refer to as SL1953). Testing at Fry's labs is $500, but she says everyone she has sent to Fry's labs with similar symptoms has a positive for SL1953. She says save money and start treating for it. It is a protozoan parasite. Treatment is Doxy + 1/4 tab of Ivermectin. >> > >> > >> >6. Get liver testing done frequently while doing the above. >> > >> > >> >7. We will be treating for Ehrlichia during this time. >> > >> > >> >8. She believes that the waxy substance on my face is fungal. It is not biofilm. >> > >> > >> >9. The bicillin is what she gives for people who are having severe arthritic symptoms. >> > >> > >> >10. Bicillin has to be given first by medical person; even if person thinks they are not allergic to penicillin some people react to bicillin which is a form of penicillin so have to have epinephrine for allergic reaction if that happens. >> > >> > >> >It was a productive appointment and I'm hopeful and scared about ramping it up. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Nettle tea good as well kajay ------------------------------ On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 20:40 PDT Kajay wrote: > >Dandelion...good to know. Thanks, . > > > >------------------------------ >On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:20 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote: > >>Thanks Kajay. I'm doing milk thistle and dandelion... but good you mentioned it. >> >> Re: linda >> >>milk thistle for liver >> >> >> > >> >I thought you might want to hear what Dr. M said about the next phase of my treatment... she also believes Lyme now plays less of a role for me and the coinfections are most prominent. >> > >> > >> >1. Stay on the Rifampin- (start it again)--everyone she has put on Levaquin has started getting tendinitis. Have no idea how many patients she has used this with. >> > >> > >> >2. Double the Doxycycline dose to 200 mg 2x/day. >> > >> > >> >3. Injections of Bicillin (have first dose by her next week), and then once a week injection by husband in rump. I have everything bicillin in frig alrady for it plus syringes. >> > >> > >> >4. Fluconazole (same as Diflucan) once a day (this is usually given once a week) for a month or longer. >> > >> > >> >5. After the next 3 months of this she wants me to continue the Doxy and start taking Ivermectin. (The parasite my husband and I had taken in 2009 from Meta Metrix as an unidentified parasite is most likely what they refer to as SL1953). Testing at Fry's labs is $500, but she says everyone she has sent to Fry's labs with similar symptoms has a positive for SL1953. She says save money and start treating for it. It is a protozoan parasite. Treatment is Doxy + 1/4 tab of Ivermectin. >> > >> > >> >6. Get liver testing done frequently while doing the above. >> > >> > >> >7. We will be treating for Ehrlichia during this time. >> > >> > >> >8. She believes that the waxy substance on my face is fungal. It is not biofilm. >> > >> > >> >9. The bicillin is what she gives for people who are having severe arthritic symptoms. >> > >> > >> >10. Bicillin has to be given first by medical person; even if person thinks they are not allergic to penicillin some people react to bicillin which is a form of penicillin so have to have epinephrine for allergic reaction if that happens. >> > >> > >> >It was a productive appointment and I'm hopeful and scared about ramping it up. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Holly seriously unwell Im utterly bereft!:-( ------------------------------ On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 23:20 PDT mitesbegone wrote: >Oh my goodness, fuz bugs!! Yuk. Yes, I have seen some pretty strange things myself. Definitely things have a Sci-Fi twist to them. I am going to have to check with my LLMD regarding Samento. I am already taking so many things that I don't want to gum up the works, but I will ask him. I know that Samento is an effective herb in the treatment of Lyme, so it makes sense that it would help with the fungi as well, although I do not know what properties it has that make it effective. But I am sure glad it is helping you out. Way to hang tough!! Terry > > >> > >> > Terry, >> >    Could it be this fungus? >> > >> > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US >> > 0Email >> > Marci Stone >> > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe >> > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. >> > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. >> > " This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing, " said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. >> > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported. >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > >> > bird mites >> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM >> > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you >> > >> > >> >  >> > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. >> > >> > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. >> > >> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. >> > >> > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. >> > >> > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. >> > >> > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. >> > >> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal >> > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to >> start >> > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. >> > >> > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not >> > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it >> > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. >> > >> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some >> > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. >> We >> > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. >> > >> > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. >> > >> > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. >> > >> > Stay strong! Terry >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 There are no words that can be expressed adequately at this time for all that sweet Holly and you are enduring. And no matter how eloquent any words might be, they can not touch the grief and desperation you must be feeling right now. But I shall try to put thoughts into words for you. Holly has been a light in your life and you in hers. Take heart in knowing that it is not always the quantity of time we may spend with a loved one that matters, but the quality of that time. And Holly's time with you has been nothing but an incredible quality of love, patience, care and kindness. You have eased Holly's life tremendously. You have lifted her from a life of misery to one of love and joy. You have done this with a willing and glad heart. Because you are a compassionate person, you did this. And because you a loving person, you now suffer. I believe when I transition from this world to the next, I will be greeted by both my 2 legged loved ones as well as my 4 legged ones. And I will know when I get there, that this time on earth was simply a testing ground and I will be with my Lord there in a state of peace and contentment. If Holly should leave your side soon, know that she will go to a better place than she is now. Grieve for her passing and for the empty spot that will reside in your heart for her, but rejoice that she will be going to a place without pain. I am holding you both in my heart at this time. God Bless, Terry > >> > > >> > Terry, > >> >    Could it be this fungus? > >> > > >> > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US > >> > 0Email > >> > Marci Stone > >> > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe > >> > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%. > >> > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC. > >> > " This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing, " said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center. > >> > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported. > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: mitesbegone <no_reply > > >> > bird mites > >> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM > >> > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you > >> > > >> > > >> >  > >> > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. > >> > > >> > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand. > >> > > >> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of " what doesn't kill you will make you stronger " and another favorite " might as well laugh as cry " . And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. > >> > > >> > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. > >> > > >> > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. > >> > > >> > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know. > >> > > >> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal > >> > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog.  I was able to > >> start > >> > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. > >> > > >> > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the " normal " community, I became convinced that mites do not simply " disappear " . They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have > not > >> > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus > it > >> > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience. > >> > > >> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take > some > >> > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started.  We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good > weather. > >> We > >> > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. > >> > > >> > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. > >> > > >> > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope. > >> > > >> > Stay strong! Terry > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Poor little Holly... I so hope she does not suffer long C. That is my prayer.From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 8:37:40 AMSubject: Re: Re:lindaHolly seriously unwellIm utterly bereft!:-(------------------------------On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 23:20 PDT mitesbegone wrote:>Oh my goodness, fuz bugs!! Yuk. Yes, I have seen some pretty strange things myself. Definitely things have a Sci-Fi twist to them. I am going to have to check with my LLMD regarding Samento. I am already taking so many things that I don't want to gum up the works, but I will ask him. I know that Samento is an effective herb in the treatment of Lyme, so it makes sense that it would help with the fungi as well, although I do not know what properties it has that make it effective. But I am sure glad it is helping you out. Way to hang tough!! Terry> >>> >>> > Terry,>> > Could it be this fungus?>> > >> > Cryptococcus is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US>> > 0Email>> > Marci Stone>> > Salt Lake City Headlines Examiner+ Subscribe>> > Cryptococcus gattii is a lethal fungus that has a death rate of 25% and is spreading in western US. Cryptococcus is a lethal strain of an airborne fungus that was discovered in the Pacicif Northwest and now may be spreading to California; the strain has a death rate of 25%.>> > In Oregon, several people have recently died after being infected with VGIIc genotype of Cryptococcus gattii, according to Business Week. The fungus appears to attack healthy people with no immune system problems. It is airborne and is not spread person to person, according to the CDC.>> > "This novel fungus is worrisome because it appears to be a threat to otherwise healthy people. Typically, we see this fungal disease associated with transplant recipients and HIV-infected patients, but that is not what we are seeing," said Edmond Byrnes III a graduate student at Duke University Medical Center.>> > Symptoms can take several months to appear after being exposed to the fungus. Symptoms include “a cough that lasts weeks, sharp chest pain, shortness of breath, meningitis-related headache and weight loss. In animals, symptoms include a runny nose, breathing problems, nervous system problems and bumps under the skin,†Business Week reported.>> > >> > >> > ________________________________>> > From: mitesbegone <no_reply >>> > bird mites >> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 7:03 AM>> > Subject: My most sincere apologies to one and all and my prayers are with you>> > >> > >> > >> > Hello my dear dear friends here and bird mite sufferers around the world. It has been an unforgivably long time since I last posted. I know it has been a while, but I hope you will understand and forgive me. I did not ever wish to be that person who was here and then gone to the bafflement and consternation of all those who remained. >> > >> > First, this group is about one of the most enduring and persevering groups out there. To be so afflicted by bird mites and to not only be forced to suffer miserably, but to suffer with so little help and belief from most non-mite sufferers is just about the most soul wrenching sorrow one can experience. I know this. You know this. And only we select few will ever truly understand.>> > >> > There are many wise people here who will offer solace, words of comfort and hope and yes even that special brand of dark humor which only we at our most hysterical can truly manifest. We live those cliches of "what doesn't kill you will make you stronger" and another favorite "might as well laugh as cry". And while many of us have tread that fine boundary between life and death, not sure which one we wish for, and shed those tears of laughter which very often mimic those tears of tragedy, it may be only in retrospect that we can truly tell how close we have come to the tragedy of life's terrible sense of humor, aka, the bird mite. >> > >> > But, life does move on. It does not rewind for us and it does not fast forward, it just stubbornly moves on. And while earlier this year I believed my life was playing out in its last chapter, I realized that perhaps, it had not. >> > >> > You see, I found you all, this incredibly brave wonderful group of people, who first let me know I was not alone in my suffering. That I was not alone in this perplexing battle against nature. From first discovering the red bird mite on my canary to the dizzying multitudes that descended upon me, I felt adrift in the world gone mad. Yes, I too tried the endless round of vacuuming, cleaning, spraying, trying first one product only to discard that and try another. Each week found me buying a new hope in a bottle, a new PCO with a cure. From deadly to organic, nothing seemed to work. Like many here, I started out with a compromised immune system which seemed to ring the dinner bell for the elusive micro sized mite. Hard to catch sight of, but doggone hard to ignore, these mites rained down a bloody hellish mess upon me, then my dogs, and ultimately my son. >> > >> > Like many of you, I washed and ultimately threw out many of my clothes. Like many of you, I found there was never a safe place to sleep. I burned my skin from numerous applications of vicks to my face, ears and other very tender spots. I burned menthol until my eyes streamed. Some of this worked for a while, some not at all. Why some worked for me and not for others I do not know.>> > >> > Ultimately, I simply broke down and turned to two things, science and God. I began to study the heck out of these mites. I took pictures with a digital microscope, studied slides under a more powerful microscope. I reached out to Professors in other countries and I began a series of communications with Biologists, Micro-Biologists, Entomologists and mold specialists. I left no stone unturned. And when I found no ready answers nor any relief, I broke down and had a spiritual crises. I found myself one night on the bottom of my bath tub as shower water poured down upon the red skin I had just scrubbed for the third time that day. I collapsed and turned myself over completely and 100% to God. I knew in that moment, I had nothing left. And while I believe truly that it was at that moment that my life turned around, I do not say this as a solution for you, as that is, for many, as intangible a thing as there is. This was my personal>> > journey. But I wish to explain as completely as possible. As many of you know, I packed up my dogs and with only a few belongings, fled to a local hotel. I was so sick and tired, was so seriously sleep deprived and sick that I thought I was crawling away to die. My little dog was seriously ill and I worried tremendously for my son. But after a week of vomiting up black dots and thinking my body was never going to be rid of the disease of the mite, I did start to get well. And as I got well, I became very fearful. Does that sound weird? I knew that I would have to face what I had run from. My daughter was getting married this June and was going to be a mother as well. I knew that I could not afford to let this beat me. I had to find my courage. Several here recommended I seek out an LLMD. I did that. I was told that I had Lyme disease and Bartonella, most likely my son did as well, as did my little dog. I was able to>> start>> > my dog on antibiotics and very soon, the limp she had disappeared. I thought she had arthritis, but low and behold, it must have been Bart. My doctor was very concerned about starting me on antibiotics out of fear of herxing, but he did start me on anti-fungals. This seemed to help some. But nothing could shore up my total cowardice in facing a return to home. You see, I had tried to come home just to pick up things from time to time and I would no sooner open the door to my house but would be assaulted by a choking infestation which would then take me days to get rid of. >> > >> > My scientific investigation continued remotely however, and after lots of conversations with people here and in the "normal" community, I became convinced that mites do not simply "disappear". They stay and stay. And they will feast upon humans and canines. I had read or heard or someone hear told me, can't say for sure...but that some small % of the population was somehow especially attractive to mites. In fact, possibly even to the extent that mites could live for some time off of humans. While I scoffed at this notion, it did seem to have merit. How else to explain the years of affliction. But like many others here, it just did not seem to be all about mites. You see, there is in fact a fungus which seems to feed off of mites. At first I thought there was some type of symbiosis between this fungus and mites. But I now know that this fungus is a parasite...and to be more exact, a mite parasite. It actually kills mites. I have not>> > been able to really work on my theory to the extent I wish. But my theory is that there are naturally occurring fungi that will destroy the bird mite. This fungi has been engineered by organizations and encouraged as a natural harbinger for mite destruction, especially targeted for crops. I believe this was first developed to kill a tree mite which infested certain fruit trees. This fungi however appears to have been disbursed without proper bio-controls put into place. Meaning that this fungus may kill mites, but when the mites are gone will turn to humans, releasing pathogenic spores into the environment. No mite could move as quickly to torment me as an airborne spore could. I have collected samples of this fungus. So for those of us who see these black spots on our counter tops, or cough up little dots, or blow our nose and encounter this, it is probably actually fungi. I have had no luck in getting any of this confirmed, thus it>> > remains theory. But I can say that anti-fungals would seem to be a natural deterrent. And I say the anti-fungals work because of an interesting experience.>> > >> > After 6 weeks of hoteling it, I returned home. I can tell you, I was scared stiff, terrified in fact. But armed with science in the one hand, and God in my right, I did come home. And I....opened.....the......door. And nothing happened to me. I immediately set to spraying my home with Lysol complete clean using a plant sprayer. I sprayed my kitchen, my bathroom and my laundry room. I drenched my bedroom. I then washed all of my linens. I waited and when nothing happened, I went to bed. And I miraculously slept. The next day, I repeated the script. By the third day, I was feeling a bit optimistic. So, I stopped spraying. Still all well. So, I got brave enough to stop washing my linens in hot water with ammonia and borax. Then I stopped taking a scalding hot shower every night. And then I just broke down and cried. I thanked God and I cried some more. One week after moving back home, I went out and tried to take some>> > clothes out of the bags of clothes which were outside on my balcony. I was immediately assaulted. Started coughing and having bloody noses. I was terrified that all my nightmare was to start again. But after a day of hacking, I returned to normal. I went outside to where my dog bed was and saw black moldy stuff growing on the bottom. Before I could wash it, my larger dog slept on it and proceeded to scratch himself raw for about 3 days. I washed it and ever since I have kept things bagged until they were washed carefully. Once washed, I have never had to rewash. I have bit by bit regained my life. And I saw my daughter's wedding day approach. The weather in Washington state is always temperamental. But the sun had been out for this past week. Then on Friday before the wedding, torrential rains started. We had planned for an outdoor garden wedding and I was beginning to lose hope that we were going to have good weather. >> We>> > struggled through a rehearsal that soaked us all and tried to scrounge up tents. Saturday, wedding day, began decently enough but then not only did the rain come down hard, but thunder storms started rolling in and sheets of rain was blowing into our tent. We decided to persevere though it all. I had learned that life will move forward, with or without us. And as the time came for the bridesmaids and groomsmen to come out of their dressing rooms, the rain stopped and as my daughter moved into view, the sun broke out. And out it stayed for the entire day. >> > >> > And although I am exhausted from that event, and from the months of mitemare...I could not sleep until I had at last posted my story to you all. To not give up. That the sun will shine through the gloom. That no matter what you put your faith in, do not lose it. >> > >> > I have not started on antibiotics yet, but I am not scratching. I am sleeping good in my bed. I have not thrown out my furniture, nor have I moved, nor have I pulled up carpet. I know that there is a power greater than my own at play here. I choose to keep fighting. I hope you all choose to keep fighting. But stay in your home or leave it. No matter. But... Believe in yourself. Believe in this group. And I will keep fighting for you in every way that I can. I am sorry it has taken me so long to regain communication. But I have not let one day pass that I have not thought of you or not prayed for you. I know this story is long and not filled with as many facts as I would like it to be. But I hope I filled it with....hope.>> > >> > Stay strong! Terry>> >>>>>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The little flies in my condo were moth flies aka drain flies. As long as I keep my bathroom sink and tub drains closed I do not see them. The people upstairs above me 2 floors up have them too, havent spoken to the lady above me. The exterminator is coming to deal with it. Aandraya On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi DrayThe traps we have bought (I just bought 60 more) work well! Most spiders travel along baseboards and then up walls or furniture. They walk right onto these very sticky pads and can't escape, like fly paper. Here is where I got my traps:http://www.CleanerTODAY.com/Spider-traps-s/86.htm?source=homeI may have a new spider bite on my arm. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 1:26:14 PMSubject: Re: linda - can u please tell me what kind of spider traps u use and do they work?AandrayaOn Jun 4, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Thanks s. The base of this place is rough hewn timbers, painted a grey color. No cinder blocks at all. Land doesn't slop onto the wall, but there is a flattened area and then the hill continues again. Hard to explain. We have a cement / slab foundation and the deck outside is cement on one side where spiders come in. If I hose it down with water spiders come up quickly back onto the slab. We recently took silicone caulk and filled in all holes leading to the timbers of the house. Previously there was a large gap there and insects and spiders lived in those spaces. We recently also got rid of the storage shed we had out there, a haven for spiders. Took out some of the raised beds with old plants that could be hiding spiders too. My apologies for all the spider talk (again). We will try something that c mentioned and I'm going to go to the plant nursery today to pick up some products. It will get better. I hope.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:53:55 AMSubject: Re: linda Hi, . I know the cinder block at the base of the house should be painted with something that water proofs. Maybe they didn't do it or do it well on the outside before building. You could apply on inside if you can reach it. Does the land slop into the wall? Does the land against the outside wall slop toward or away from your building? I'm thinking moisture and compromised mortar. Jump in here anytime Bill! You know I a little about much but not a lot about anything:) At my old home, the water table was high and virtually made it right under the floor of my basement. Spiders are always bad in moist areas.Love and Light,From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: linda Neighbors have not said anything to me about spiders if they are getting them. One neighbor is a total recluse--a guy. My other direct neighbor is very friendly. This spider invasion started the same time and year when we got mites, so don't know if that is just a coincidence or not. I know it is not normal to have this many spiders. Perhaps the spiders on the hill are munching away on Springtails. Part of the problem is that we live on a large open space... part of the problem also is that our downstairs is tucked into a hill, and it gets very cool down here all year, but that still would not explain why the neighbors have not gotten this. We never see the spiders during the day, only come out at night. So strange. We're going to put DE out again on the decks. The spider traps are the only thing that works well. I don't relish the thought of having all these traps out when family come to stay for a month. It looks gross with all the dead spiders.Thanks Aggi.From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:10:12 AMSubject: Re: linda That spider invasion is really strange . We only get the occasional spider in fall when it get's cold outside and when they are seeking a hibernation place. How about your neighbours, are they fighting the same problem ?? Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 18:05 Sonntag, 3.Juni 2012Betreff: Re: linda Hi C I go through the house counting spiders in the traps in the morning. That is a discouraging way to start the day. They are coming from somewhere but we just figure out where at this point. Sealed things up as best we could. They come out at night only, never during day. We are going to have to spray something outside and have not done that as yet. Maybe nylar, so will look into it. I did my first treatment with the castor oil yesterday w heating pad. Felt good... my feet are getting very swollen by night time and then more sensations on the feet. It could be partly the heat causing the swelling. I am trying to cut down on anything salty too. My Lyme doc wants me to get another liver test done, but the other doctor won't let me get another test for 6 months. Yes, I have partly ish heritage. I am a mutt. For some reason I take after the Scots in the way I look. Red hair, very redhead complexion which I've always hated. I think my daughter and son-in-law went up the east coast of Scotland yesterday, so hope to hear about that - looks so beautiful from pictures I've seen. I think they will be in Scotland a week is all. Looked up history of the ons - originally 1/2 were Irish and the other 1/2 were from Norsemen. So, looks like you are French! Love all the castles there in Scotland! I think it would be too cold to live in one though, don't you? Hang in there C! From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:24:56 AMSubject: Re: lindaSorry was responding ro ur post yestrday then lost it then gave up as it frustrating!!Cant remember what I said now!Hiw are u?Unpleasant re spidersSince arachnid family what about spraying nylar insect growth regulator flea spray indorex has that in itWud,stop arachnid reproduction for a year after a sprayWorth a tryAh yes I remember u have a partly ish heritageIm descended from 17 th century French royalty who came to Scotland And lived in a castle!Wunder if they suffered mites?Probably did in olden days!:-(Im feeling ill as getting some realy harsh viscious bites,stabing onesYet hadnt realy had them for a,whileJust little bitesAnd the crawly itch realy bad So I feel horrible mentaly n physicalyAnd tortured by it quite a bitJust feetWash sulphurTake doxyNeem clove oilI just feel cannot live my life properly n be happy when suffering this a year laterIts too muchBein strong for little dog howeverAs shes just a lovely litle soulTc x------------------------------On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 21:43 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>It is no problem Aandraya. I think most of us realize when someone isn't doing well or is just busy. I wonder where Terry is? >>> >> [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >>>>>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >I can manage things now and am caught up. >>Thanks, >Aandraya >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I had never heard of drain flies; did you try bleach to kill them? So strange...L.From: "Aandraya Da Silva" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 12:09:04 PMSubject: Re: linda The little flies in my condo were moth flies aka drain flies. As long as I keep my bathroom sink and tub drains closed I do not see them. The people upstairs above me 2 floors up have them too, havent spoken to the lady above me. The exterminator is coming to deal with it. Aandraya On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Hi DrayThe traps we have bought (I just bought 60 more) work well! Most spiders travel along baseboards and then up walls or furniture. They walk right onto these very sticky pads and can't escape, like fly paper. Here is where I got my traps:http://www.CleanerTODAY.com/Spider-traps-s/86.htm?source=homeI may have a new spider bite on my arm. From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 1:26:14 PMSubject: Re: linda - can u please tell me what kind of spider traps u use and do they work?AandrayaOn Jun 4, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: Thanks s. The base of this place is rough hewn timbers, painted a grey color. No cinder blocks at all. Land doesn't slop onto the wall, but there is a flattened area and then the hill continues again. Hard to explain. We have a cement / slab foundation and the deck outside is cement on one side where spiders come in. If I hose it down with water spiders come up quickly back onto the slab. We recently took silicone caulk and filled in all holes leading to the timbers of the house. Previously there was a large gap there and insects and spiders lived in those spaces. We recently also got rid of the storage shed we had out there, a haven for spiders. Took out some of the raised beds with old plants that could be hiding spiders too. My apologies for all the spider talk (again). We will try something that c mentioned and I'm going to go to the plant nursery today to pick up some products. It will get better. I hope.From: " Benton" <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:53:55 AMSubject: Re: linda Hi, . I know the cinder block at the base of the house should be painted with something that water proofs. Maybe they didn't do it or do it well on the outside before building. You could apply on inside if you can reach it. Does the land slop into the wall? Does the land against the outside wall slop toward or away from your building? I'm thinking moisture and compromised mortar. Jump in here anytime Bill! You know I a little about much but not a lot about anything:) At my old home, the water table was high and virtually made it right under the floor of my basement. Spiders are always bad in moist areas.Love and Light,From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...> bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: linda Neighbors have not said anything to me about spiders if they are getting them. One neighbor is a total recluse--a guy. My other direct neighbor is very friendly. This spider invasion started the same time and year when we got mites, so don't know if that is just a coincidence or not. I know it is not normal to have this many spiders. Perhaps the spiders on the hill are munching away on Springtails. Part of the problem is that we live on a large open space... part of the problem also is that our downstairs is tucked into a hill, and it gets very cool down here all year, but that still would not explain why the neighbors have not gotten this. We never see the spiders during the day, only come out at night. So strange. We're going to put DE out again on the decks. The spider traps are the only thing that works well. I don't relish the thought of having all these traps out when family come to stay for a month. It looks gross with all the dead spiders.Thanks Aggi.From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:10:12 AMSubject: Re: linda That spider invasion is really strange . We only get the occasional spider in fall when it get's cold outside and when they are seeking a hibernation place. How about your neighbours, are they fighting the same problem ?? Von: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 18:05 Sonntag, 3.Juni 2012Betreff: Re: linda Hi C I go through the house counting spiders in the traps in the morning. That is a discouraging way to start the day. They are coming from somewhere but we just figure out where at this point. Sealed things up as best we could. They come out at night only, never during day. We are going to have to spray something outside and have not done that as yet. Maybe nylar, so will look into it. I did my first treatment with the castor oil yesterday w heating pad. Felt good... my feet are getting very swollen by night time and then more sensations on the feet. It could be partly the heat causing the swelling. I am trying to cut down on anything salty too. My Lyme doc wants me to get another liver test done, but the other doctor won't let me get another test for 6 months. Yes, I have partly ish heritage. I am a mutt. For some reason I take after the Scots in the way I look. Red hair, very redhead complexion which I've always hated. I think my daughter and son-in-law went up the east coast of Scotland yesterday, so hope to hear about that - looks so beautiful from pictures I've seen. I think they will be in Scotland a week is all. Looked up history of the ons - originally 1/2 were Irish and the other 1/2 were from Norsemen. So, looks like you are French! Love all the castles there in Scotland! I think it would be too cold to live in one though, don't you? Hang in there C! From: "ILIKE TREES" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:24:56 AMSubject: Re: lindaSorry was responding ro ur post yestrday then lost it then gave up as it frustrating!!Cant remember what I said now!Hiw are u?Unpleasant re spidersSince arachnid family what about spraying nylar insect growth regulator flea spray indorex has that in itWud,stop arachnid reproduction for a year after a sprayWorth a tryAh yes I remember u have a partly ish heritageIm descended from 17 th century French royalty who came to Scotland And lived in a castle!Wunder if they suffered mites?Probably did in olden days!:-(Im feeling ill as getting some realy harsh viscious bites,stabing onesYet hadnt realy had them for a,whileJust little bitesAnd the crawly itch realy bad So I feel horrible mentaly n physicalyAnd tortured by it quite a bitJust feetWash sulphurTake doxyNeem clove oilI just feel cannot live my life properly n be happy when suffering this a year laterIts too muchBein strong for little dog howeverAs shes just a lovely litle soulTc x------------------------------On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 21:43 PDT Goldstein@... wrote:>It is no problem Aandraya. I think most of us realize when someone isn't doing well or is just busy. I wonder where Terry is? >>> >> [Wisconsin-LymeSupport] not responding to posts >Reply-Wisconsin-LymeSupport >>>>>Hi Everyone from WI Lyme Support and Birdmites- >>I am letting you know that I was overwhelmed with emails during the >month of May mostly for health reasons and then traveling for 2 >weeks. I just deleted a huge quantity of posts from May that I am >just to overwhelmed to read. If anyone posted something directed >toward me I apologize for not responding. Please resend the post as >I can manage things now and am caught up. >>Thanks, >Aandraya >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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